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What so now wanna Thank you India after 60 years of taking? This is just another sneaky plot to get on India's good side because they know they are gonna be kicked out soon if they continue being arrogant and demanding and make trouble!
Tibetans 'Don't Want To Discomfort India', Cancel Mega Event
After cancelling events in the national capital, the Tibetan government-in-exile will now start pan-India "Thank You India" programmes.
All India | Indo-Asian News Service | Updated: March 28, 2018 20:12 IST
The president of the the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), Lobsang Sangay, on Wednesday said his government-in-exile "doesn't want to cause inconvenience to host India".
Speaking on cancelling of events planned by his administration, earlier in New Delhi, to mark the beginning of the 60th year of the Dalai Lama stepping on India soil, he told reporters in Dharamshala: "Whatever we do, we don't want to cause inconvenience to our hosts or to the persons who want to meet us."
"They may have particular reasons as to why these coming months are sensitive. So, we completely understand and respect that. There is no disappointment at all but rather an understanding of the situation," he said.
Lobsang Sangay was responding to a media query regarding a circular issued by the Indian government relating to the "Thank You India" events starting on March 31.
Without mincing words, he said the government and people of India have done the most for Tibet.
"Every year, in all the formal and non-formal events, we Tibetans always say thank you India. I think it's important that we also demonstrate our gratitude in deeds."
"His Holiness the Dalai Lama calls himself a 'son of India'. So, we should be saying thank you a lot. Moreover, our relationship with India is like parent and children. Therefore, we want to thank India," he said.
Amid the recent tensions with China, the Indian government was reported to have cautioned its senior officials last month to stay away from events aimed at marking the start of the Dalai Lama's 60th year of exile.
After cancelling events in the national capital, the Tibetan government-in-exile will now start pan-India "Thank You India" programmes to mark the beginning of the 60th year of the Dalai Lama arriving in India.
The Dalai Lama escaped from Tibet to India in March 1959.
To mark the events, Lobsang Sangay on Wednesday released a "Thank you India" music video, performed and produced by artistes of the Tibetan Institute of Performing Arts, thanking India for its hospitality and assistance.
Lobsang Sangay said the year-long events lined up as part of the campaign include a mass tree plantation drive to support a green India movement, participating in Yoga Day events organised by the government of India, distribution of food to the hungry and homeless and a mass cleanliness drive to observe the Indian government's Swachh Bharat initiative.
Acknowledging the growing Chinese pressure on global leaders on the Tibet issue, Lobsang Sangay said: "Wherever I go, be it Europe, the US, the pressure is increasing."
The CTA is organising a public event in Dharamshala to officially launch the "Thank You India" campaign on March 31.
It will be one of the largest events ever organised by the Tibetans in Dharamsala and hundreds of guests are expected to attend, including Naren Das, a member of the first delegation that received the Dalai Lama when he first set foot on India.
Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama will attend the event.
The Dalai Lama, in an interview to CNN News18, has said he "doesn't care about how Chinese pressure forced the cancellation of the events of the Tibetan government-in-exile in Delhi".
He said it was more about "how you feel for Tibetans and how Tibetans feel for India".
The Tibetan administration in exile is based in the north Indian hill town of Dharamsala in Himachal Pradesh.
Source: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tibetans-dont-want-to-discomfort-india-cancel-mega-event-1829921 (https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/tibetans-dont-want-to-discomfort-india-cancel-mega-event-1829921)
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Real giving is through actions that bring real results that will benefit Indians, for example, cancel the Thank You India event that will irk the Chinese government. Also, an event will not bring any benefits to the Indian people and solve their high unemployment rate, rape issues, inequality gender issues, caste problems, leprosy, poverty etc. The poor remained poor and the social issues remain. The CTA has never cared about India and her issues, and have been asking for financial and political aid for 60 years without contributing towards the growth and development of India.
During this critical juncture where the China and India are working hard to form a bilateral tie, instead of easing the process, the CTA allowed 5 NGOs to organise a protest against China in Dehli even though India ban the March 10 Uprising protest earlier. In addition, the Indian government also warned her national and state officials do not attend the Tibetan event, yet the CTA insisted on going ahead with the meaningless Thank You event.
The CTA and Tibetan people has again proven to bring no harmony and peace to India, let alone benefits the country very much needed. They are a thorn in the Sino-Indian relation that has caused India billions that they can no longer afford. Really, do you think the Tibetans sincerely do not want to discomfort India?
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After 60 years of living in India with so much benefits received from their host, the Tibetans finally realise they have to show a tiny bit of appreciation? This Thank You event comes too late, why only say thank you after 60 years, they should do this every since they arrived in India. I personally think there is nothing to be celebrated, 60 years of struggling, the Tibetans are still struggling?
India has been too kind to the Tibetans, they give lands to the Tibetans to rebuild their homes, they are allowed to move freely just like a normal Indian citizen. Which refugee in other parts of the world has this privilege? If India did not welcome the Tibetans in 1959, what would happen to the Dalai Lama and his people?
Lobsang Sangay, just face the truth. You did not cancel the Thank You India event because you didn't want to discomfort India, the truth is no Indian officials would be attending the event. You just don't want to look bad. If you want to show appreciation to India, help them strengthen their relationship with China, this is more practical than your momo eating party.
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"His Holiness the Dalai Lama calls himself a 'son of India'. So, we should be saying thank you a lot. Moreover, our relationship with India is like parent and children. Therefore, we want to thank India," he said.
Amid the recent tensions with China, the Indian government was reported to have cautioned its senior officials last month to stay away from events aimed at marking the start of the Dalai Lama's 60th year of exile.
Lobsang Sangay said the year-long events lined up as part of the campaign include a mass tree plantation drive to support a green India movement, participating in Yoga Day events organised by the government of India, distribution of food to the hungry and homeless and a mass cleanliness drive to observe the Indian government's Swachh Bharat initiative.
The Dalai Lama is the "Son of India" and yet so many activities are all self-serving. Probably my awareness is very limited but I don't think that the Dalai Lama had really spoken on behalf of India or the Indians to help them, especially during disasters nor had he initiated any real drive to help improve the living conditions of the very poor near or surrounding Dharamsala, much less the rest of India. With the Dalai Lama's influence, he could have at least brought attention to areas of critical need to the world's attention.
CTA had never thank India until this crucial times when India is putting Tibetans aside for the Chinese' advantageous and profitable relationship. Why until now that CTA says thank you? Year long event campaign? Plant a few trees, give some food to the poor, support the cleaning up and urmmm, yoga? So what happened to all the 60 years that they had lived on Indian soil and with their more than generous USD millions in annual sponsorships? They could have started a social program for the Indians but then again, their own people are not even getting care nor help so what's the Indians....
"Like parent and children"? This is so funny. Yeah! Children that never grow up and continue to milk the parent for every cent that they have while causing problem after problems that the parent need to clean up. And these children are so arrogant towards their parent because they feel the parent is just not good enough irregardless such generosity accorded to them. You know how some children turned on their parents or reject them when they become rich or are more educated, which they would never have had gained without their parents in the first place. Such ungratefulness.
Tracy had pointed out India's generosity to the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans but missed out that these refugees were given the right of Governance on borrowed land that is not even their country. India had never interfered with the Dalai Lama's ministry or CTA's governance and even most times, when exiled Tibetans brought their grievances to the Indian courts out of desperation, the judges or officials just sided with the Tibetan Leaders. I would say that there are no difference in the Tibetan Leaders being in Tibet or in India when it comes to asserting their rule and nor had they changed to be in tandem with the practice of other sovereign countries's rule on human rights. After 60 years in exile and the arrogance of rule is still very much practiced without realisation of the fact that they are not a country. Tibet is firmly in China's grasp and will not be ceded at any time. The Dalai Lama had realised this but his obstinate officials still hang on to their greed and self interest instead of supporting his stance. It is such a slap in the face as it shows how they disparage the Dalai Lama and discount his enlightened wisdom.
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"His Holiness the Dalai Lama calls himself a 'son of India'. So, we should be saying thank you a lot. Moreover, our relationship with India is like parent and children. Therefore, we want to thank India," he said.
Amid the recent tensions with China, the Indian government was reported to have cautioned its senior officials last month to stay away from events aimed at marking the start of the Dalai Lama's 60th year of exile.
If His Holiness the Dalai Lama calls himself a 'son of India', he should have stayed in India and not return to Tibet. He mentioned a few times saying that he wants to return to Tibet under China on several events does not reflect that he treats himself as one with the Indians. He even sent Samdhong Rinpoche secretly to China to have a private talk without informing the Indian government.
Indian government got to know about the secret trip and was very not happy with it. The Tibet card is not as useful to India recently and it shows Indian is trying to build a good relationship with China. The leaked memo from the government to their staffs discouraging them to attend Tibetan related events that will make China unhappy is a statement from India showing that they're displeased with the Tibetans.
If Tibetans continue to do their stunts and make India more unhappy, they might face the fate of being chased out of India and they will be forced to go back to Tibet under China. Then, it will be interesting to see what CTA will do. Will His Holiness the Dalai Lama lead his fellow Tibetan back to China or maybe to another country that is willing to give asylum to them?
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"His Holiness the Dalai Lama calls himself a 'son of India'. So, we should be saying thank you a lot. Moreover, our relationship with India is like parent and children. Therefore, we want to thank India," he said.
Amid the recent tensions with China, the Indian government was reported to have cautioned its senior officials last month to stay away from events aimed at marking the start of the Dalai Lama's 60th year of exile.
If His Holiness the Dalai Lama calls himself a 'son of India', he should have stayed in India and not return to Tibet. He mentioned a few times saying that he wants to return to Tibet under China on several events does not reflect that he treats himself as one with the Indians. He even sent Samdhong Rinpoche secretly to China to have a private talk without informing the Indian government.
Indian government got to know about the secret trip and was very not happy with it. The Tibet card is not as useful to India recently and it shows Indian is trying to build a good relationship with China. The leaked memo from the government to their staffs discouraging them to attend Tibetan related events that will make China unhappy is a statement from India showing that they're displeased with the Tibetans.
If Tibetans continue to do their stunts and make India more unhappy, they might face the fate of being chased out of India and they will be forced to go back to Tibet under China. Then, it will be interesting to see what CTA will do. Will His Holiness the Dalai Lama lead his fellow Tibetan back to China or maybe to another country that is willing to give asylum to them?
Yes, the Tibetan Leaders are afraid of being chased out as they have been creating trouble for India at every possible opportunity. Why? Cos if India becomes pals with China then the Tibetan will have no place to stand at all. Always at the mercy of both India and China. As it is I can just see CTA hanging on with their dear lives until the very end and they will not go easy. See how the Myanmar Rohingyas occupied Myanmar then demand to annex the land to them? Well CTA may just try that with India. I think India better be warned as the Tibetan Leaders are very sneaky and smart in the wrong way. They may just turn on their host of 60 years to fight for their "rights".
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Yes, the Tibetan Leaders are afraid of being chased out as they have been creating trouble for India at every possible opportunity. Why? Cos if India becomes pals with China then the Tibetan will have no place to stand at all. Always at the mercy of both India and China. As it is I can just see CTA hanging on with their dear lives until the very end and they will not go easy. See how the Myanmar Rohingyas occupied Myanmar then demand to annex the land to them? Well CTA may just try that with India. I think India better be warned as the Tibetan Leaders are very sneaky and smart in the wrong way. They may just turn on their host of 60 years to fight for their "rights".
Just like immigrants in the US that 'demands' their right to have welfare and support from the government. That is just ridiculous. They come to the US and demanded to have the same welfare that US citizens are enjoying. That does not make sense. US citizens are entitled to the welfare and benefits because their forefathers fight and contributed to the country. They themselves also paid taxes and hence the government takes care of them in return.
The Tibetans might pick this up and mimicked the immigrants in the US. They might start to demand benefits and welfare from the Indian government and it will be interesting to know what will the Indian government do in response to that. The Indians will probably kick them out since they do not really like them in the first place anyway.
But, I think His Holiness the Dalai Lama will lead them towards a better route which is going back to Tibet under China. It is the best way for all Tibetans and he can make sure CTA will not exploit the Tibetans any further for their own benefit. Seems like going back to China is the best choice now.
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But, I think His Holiness the Dalai Lama will lead them towards a better route which is going back to Tibet under China. It is the best way for all Tibetans and he can make sure CTA will not exploit the Tibetans any further for their own benefit. Seems like going back to China is the best choice now.
The Dalai Lama leading the Tibetans back to China will be good however it is dependant on China if she wants them? With all the propaganda by CTA, it is quite possible that once agreed on allowing them back to Tibet, China may just place them camps again. "Rehabilitation" would be the word to use. China will need to instill her doctrines so that no unrest will take place. China just can't afford to waste the time on settling on unrest when they have so much planned for the progress China's being world no. 1.
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But, I think His Holiness the Dalai Lama will lead them towards a better route which is going back to Tibet under China. It is the best way for all Tibetans and he can make sure CTA will not exploit the Tibetans any further for their own benefit. Seems like going back to China is the best choice now.
The Dalai Lama leading the Tibetans back to China will be good however it is dependant on China if she wants them? With all the propaganda by CTA, it is quite possible that once agreed on allowing them back to Tibet, China may just place them camps again. "Rehabilitation" would be the word to use. China will need to instill her doctrines so that no unrest will take place. China just can't afford to waste the time on settling on unrest when they have so much planned for the progress China's being world no. 1.
This is very true that even if the Dalai Lama wants to go back and agree to cooperate with the Chinese government, the Chinese government may not necessary wants the Tibetans to go back to China. Without the Dalai Lama, Chinese government still managed to recognise their own Panchen Lama. The 14th Dalai Lama said this Chinese Panchen Lama is a legitimate one. Therefore, the Chinese government actually does not need the the 14th Dalai Lama to be back to China in order to recognise the 15th Dalai Lama.
The Tibetans have to do a lot of work to gain the trust from the Chinese government if they really want to go back to China. The CTA has done so many things that go against the Chinese government and they have been very vocal in criticising the Chinese government. To change the perception of the Chinese government on CTA will take a long time.
The Dalai Lama is getting older every day, if the CTA really cares about what the Dalai Lama wants, they should start to do something to show China they want to be friendly with the Chinese government. In long run, there is no benefit gained by fighting with China.
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Tibetans don't want to discomfort India? They sure know how to discomfort India's Prime Minister for sure!
See the "Letter to Hon’ble Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi from Core Group for Tibetan Cause – India"
Source: https://tibet.net/letter-to-honble-prime-minister-shri-narendra-modi-from-core-group-for-tibetan-cause-india/
Just by reading the letter by the so-called "Core Group For Tibetan Cause" to PM Modi, one can't help but to notice the obvious expectations and demands asked for Tibetans. It is interesting that no consideration and respect is given to PM Modi who has many issues to deal with regarding India itself and at the same time create good ties with China to boost India's economy
It mentioned 153 Tibetans inside Tibet self-immolated due to the human rights situation in Tibet but failed to explain how the CTA has encouraged and taught (with printed books) these 153 to take their lives.
They demand talks to be resumed with His Holiness's representatives yet all they do is criticise China? Delusional. And they ask PM Modi to pressure Xi after all the bad rap they caused for themselves by condemning China. Another delusional thought. Whoever is advising the Dalai Lama and the CTA regarding this is clearly delusional that PM Modi would jeopardise the whole of India for troublesome Tibetans who has done nothing much for India.
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Tibetans don't want to discomfort India? They sure know how to discomfort India's Prime Minister for sure!
See the "Letter to Hon’ble Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi from Core Group for Tibetan Cause – India"
Source: https://tibet.net/letter-to-honble-prime-minister-shri-narendra-modi-from-core-group-for-tibetan-cause-india/
Just by reading the letter by the so-called "Core Group For Tibetan Cause" to PM Modi, one can't help but to notice the obvious expectations and demands asked for Tibetans. It is interesting that no consideration and respect is given to PM Modi who has many issues to deal with regarding India itself and at the same time create good ties with China to boost India's economy
It mentioned 153 Tibetans inside Tibet self-immolated due to the human rights situation in Tibet but failed to explain how the CTA has encouraged and taught (with printed books) these 153 to take their lives.
They demand talks to be resumed with His Holiness's representatives yet all they do is criticise China? Delusional. And they ask PM Modi to pressure Xi after all the bad rap they caused for themselves by condemning China. Another delusional thought. Whoever is advising the Dalai Lama and the CTA regarding this is clearly delusional that PM Modi would jeopardise the whole of India for troublesome Tibetans who has done nothing much for India.
Tibetans' existence in India itself is already a discomfort for India. They have been in India for 60 years and obviously they did not plan to leave anytime soon. They are pretty happy to stay in India taking over India's welfare privileges and their land. In some places, the Tibetans even lied to the government to be eligible for the welfare that they are distributing.
Now India's relationship with China has been improving and the Indian government has been giving the Tibetan less and less attention. They even downsized the "Thank you, India" event which supposed to be held in Delhi Stadium. Obviously, China is happy with India's action and hence they are more willing to cooperate with India.
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This request really going to put India in a hot seat. The details are going to irritate the Chinese and with that, the Tibetan wants to request dialogue? Instead of requesting in a more diplomatic way Tibetan really asking for more displeasure from the Chinese. Wondering if the Indian Prime Minister will help Tibetan to pass the letter to the Chinese?
Tibetans don't want to discomfort India? They sure know how to discomfort India's Prime Minister for sure!
See the "Letter to Hon’ble Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi from Core Group for Tibetan Cause – India"
Source: https://tibet.net/letter-to-honble-prime-minister-shri-narendra-modi-from-core-group-for-tibetan-cause-india/
Just by reading the letter by the so-called "Core Group For Tibetan Cause" to PM Modi, one can't help but to notice the obvious expectations and demands asked for Tibetans. It is interesting that no consideration and respect is given to PM Modi who has many issues to deal with regarding India itself and at the same time create good ties with China to boost India's economy
It mentioned 153 Tibetans inside Tibet self-immolated due to the human rights situation in Tibet but failed to explain how the CTA has encouraged and taught (with printed books) these 153 to take their lives.
They demand talks to be resumed with His Holiness's representatives yet all they do is criticise China? Delusional. And they ask PM Modi to pressure Xi after all the bad rap they caused for themselves by condemning China. Another delusional thought. Whoever is advising the Dalai Lama and the CTA regarding this is clearly delusional that PM Modi would jeopardise the whole of India for troublesome Tibetans who has done nothing much for India.
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Tibetans don't want to discomfort India? They sure know how to discomfort India's Prime Minister for sure!
See the "Letter to Hon’ble Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi from Core Group for Tibetan Cause – India"
Source: https://tibet.net/letter-to-honble-prime-minister-shri-narendra-modi-from-core-group-for-tibetan-cause-india/
Just by reading the letter by the so-called "Core Group For Tibetan Cause" to PM Modi, one can't help but to notice the obvious expectations and demands asked for Tibetans. It is interesting that no consideration and respect is given to PM Modi who has many issues to deal with regarding India itself and at the same time create good ties with China to boost India's economy
It mentioned 153 Tibetans inside Tibet self-immolated due to the human rights situation in Tibet but failed to explain how the CTA has encouraged and taught (with printed books) these 153 to take their lives.
They demand talks to be resumed with His Holiness's representatives yet all they do is criticise China? Delusional. And they ask PM Modi to pressure Xi after all the bad rap they caused for themselves by condemning China. Another delusional thought. Whoever is advising the Dalai Lama and the CTA regarding this is clearly delusional that PM Modi would jeopardise the whole of India for troublesome Tibetans who has done nothing much for India.
If the CTA wants to talk about human rights, what human right did they give to Dorje Shugden followers? The CTA segregates Dorje Shugden followers and encourages Tibetans to go against them. Businesses are allowed to put up signs to forbid Dorje Shugden followers to frequent the places. This is pure discrimination.
Why does the CTA and the Tibetans think India should help them? Didn't India help them enough? It has been 60 years since the Tibetans take refuge in India, it is a long time. Did the Tibetans do anything for India to show their appreciation? Not really.
The Tibetans have created so much problems in India but they did not seem to realise that. They even dare to ask India for more support and help. This is very ungrateful of the Tibetans.
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This request really going to put India in a hot seat. The details are going to irritate the Chinese and with that, the Tibetan wants to request dialogue? Instead of requesting in a more diplomatic way Tibetan really asking for more displeasure from the Chinese. Wondering if the Indian Prime Minister will help Tibetan to pass the letter to the Chinese?
Tibetans don't want to discomfort India? They sure know how to discomfort India's Prime Minister for sure!
See the "Letter to Hon’ble Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi from Core Group for Tibetan Cause – India"
Source: https://tibet.net/letter-to-honble-prime-minister-shri-narendra-modi-from-core-group-for-tibetan-cause-india/
Just by reading the letter by the so-called "Core Group For Tibetan Cause" to PM Modi, one can't help but to notice the obvious expectations and demands asked for Tibetans. It is interesting that no consideration and respect is given to PM Modi who has many issues to deal with regarding India itself and at the same time create good ties with China to boost India's economy
It mentioned 153 Tibetans inside Tibet self-immolated due to the human rights situation in Tibet but failed to explain how the CTA has encouraged and taught (with printed books) these 153 to take their lives.
They demand talks to be resumed with His Holiness's representatives yet all they do is criticise China? Delusional. And they ask PM Modi to pressure Xi after all the bad rap they caused for themselves by condemning China. Another delusional thought. Whoever is advising the Dalai Lama and the CTA regarding this is clearly delusional that PM Modi would jeopardise the whole of India for troublesome Tibetans who has done nothing much for India.
As usual, the Tibetans did not think about the welfare of India. They only think about what they want and the benefits that they can get from their actions. Little did they know, this letter will get India into trouble if they really take heed of the Tibetan's request.
India and China have been not on good terms for many years and this is the first time that the relationship between India and China became better. I do not think India will risk all of these just for a bunch of refugees that has been in India for 60 years and yet contributing nothing to their country.
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Tibetan should have done this much earlier and must be very sensitive to the local people. The local Indians are very unhappy to see how Tibetan live in such a privilege. Many local Indians are poor and this makes them angrier to see how the Indian government treated the Tibetan. Tibetan leadership should often do something to repay the kindness of the Indian government and treat the local people at their settlement. They must remember that India has been very kind to help Tibetan to them land to stay and preserve their culture and tradition.
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Nope India is not going to tolerate any disruption from the Tibetans. And really, is this sort of behaviour going to win China over to have dialogue with CTA? When will they ever realise that this is not the way to go? And if they can organise and systematically get people to discriminate Shugden practitioners, why don't they organise and systematically get the Tibetans to stop behaving like barbarians and jeopardising their relationship with China?
Obviously, CTA is not trying to make friends with China and definitely China is not going to entertain anything coming from the exile Tibetan leaders. They don't even recognise or acknowledge Lobsang Sangay. Sad that the CTA is still delusional about where they stand.
Tibetan activists arrested at Chennai airport and Xi Jinping’s hotel
DHARAMSHALA, Oct. 11: More Tibetans have been arrested ahead of the visit of Chinese President’s visit in Chennai on Friday as activists and students were picked up by the Tamil Nadu police at the Chennai airport and the ITC Grand Chola where Xi Jinping is scheduled to stay.
12 Tibetans have been arrested near the ITC Grand Chola hotel at the little mount area in Guindy where the Chinese President is to be hosted ahead of the bilateral summit with Indian PM Narendra Modi. Among the arrested is also the President of the activist group Tibetan Youth Congress, Gonpo Dhondup who is currently being held at the Guindy police station.
Additionally, 3 students have also been arrested inside the Chennai airport’s arrival lounge after they flew in from New Delhi to coincide with the Chinese President’s arrival at the same airport, according to TYC Secretary Sonam Tsering who spoke to Phayul via phone.
Xi Jinping arrived in Chennai around 2 pm local time for the second informal talks with his Indian counterpart. The two will hold a two-day bilateral talks at the coastal town to Mamallappuram from 11-12 October.
Earlier this week, 34 Tibetan activists and students were arrested in the city. The total number of arrested Tibetans has now jumped to 49. Also, prominent Tibetan activist and poet Tenzin Tsundue was arrested last Saturday evening in Viluppuram, Tamil Nadu.
On Thursday, the Core Group for Tibetan Cause Towards, the apex Tibet support group in India said it strongly condemns such illicit show of power and administrative machinery that crushes the common people’s voice against prevailing injustices and urges the concerned State Government to release those Tibetan students or people immediately.
Source: [url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41845&article=Tibetan+activists+arrested+at+Chennai+airport+and+Xi+Jinping%e2%80%99s+hotel[/url] ([url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41845&article=Tibetan+activists+arrested+at+Chennai+airport+and+Xi+Jinping%e2%80%99s+hotel[/url])
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Tibetans are really ungrateful. India has been so kind to them for the past 60 years, allowing them to settle down in India but look at what they are doing to India? Tibetans know very well that India wants to have a better relationship with China and this is a very important meeting between the two countries but Tibetans still want to mess it up.
With such behaviour, of course India will distance itself away from the Tibetans and slowly withdrawing the support for the Tibetans. The Tibetans are wasting Indian's resources unnecessary. The Indian government has to use their security forces to control the Tibetans to make sure they don't create troubles when President Xi comes to visit India.
Tibetans are very short-sighted and ungrateful. They can never free Tibet, this is the fact.
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Tibetan leadership never stop creating trouble for themselves and others especially India. Tibetan leadership keeps irritating China and this will just make the Chinese take action on them by going through India. India needs China very much and will definitely go along with it. Tibetan leadership seems to be still living in their ignorance state and thinking of their situation now, they are still able to get support or actually they know they are not going to get support anymore. This is the dangerous part. Tibetan leadership only focus on their own interest.
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Tibetan leadership never stop creating trouble for themselves and others especially India. Tibetan leadership keeps irritating China and this will just make the Chinese take action on them by going through India. India needs China very much and will definitely go along with it. Tibetan leadership seems to be still living in their ignorance state and thinking of their situation now, they are still able to get support or actually they know they are not going to get support anymore. This is the dangerous part. Tibetan leadership only focus on their own interest.
When Lobsang Sangay said he does not wnat to discomfort India, he was just being diplomatic, he didn't mean that. If he means that, he will not still leech on India, and abuse India's kindness. If he really does not want to discomfort India, he should tell the Tibetans to assimilate into Indian society, go back to Tibet or migrate else where. Don't be a burden to India anymore, Tibetans have been a refugee for the past 60 years and getting support from India, how much more do they expect from India?
Indian has their own problems, if Lobsang Sangay really wants to repay the kindness of India and show appreciation to India. First, stop become the issue between India and China. Next, give an identity to the Tibetans so they belong to somewhere. If Tibet is their home, just go back. Being part of China is not that bad.
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When Lobsang Sangay said he does not wnat to discomfort India, he was just being diplomatic, he didn't mean that. If he means that, he will not still leech on India, and abuse India's kindness. If he really does not want to discomfort India, he should tell the Tibetans to assimilate into Indian society, go back to Tibet or migrate else where. Don't be a burden to India anymore, Tibetans have been a refugee for the past 60 years and getting support from India, how much more do they expect from India?
Indian has their own problems, if Lobsang Sangay really wants to repay the kindness of India and show appreciation to India. First, stop become the issue between India and China. Next, give an identity to the Tibetans so they belong to somewhere. If Tibet is their home, just go back. Being part of China is not that bad.
What you said Drolma is actually very true and right. Yes if Lobsang Sangay really means what he says about not wanting to discomfort India, the very first thing he can do is to STOP poking India with China issues!
He can stop asking India to help them/Tibetan cause and stand up for them and talk to China about them wanting their country back which is not even what the Dalai Lama is asking for actually. So Sangay is obviously lying again and obviously demanding a lot from India.
If he truly wants to "help" India and not discomfort India, he can, first of all, send out a notice to the exile Tibetans and Tibetans everywhere to seize all protests against China especially anything in India. They can start with that first and then move on from there.
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When Lobsang Sangay said he does not wnat to discomfort India, he was just being diplomatic, he didn't mean that. If he means that, he will not still leech on India, and abuse India's kindness. If he really does not want to discomfort India, he should tell the Tibetans to assimilate into Indian society, go back to Tibet or migrate else where. Don't be a burden to India anymore, Tibetans have been a refugee for the past 60 years and getting support from India, how much more do they expect from India?
Indian has their own problems, if Lobsang Sangay really wants to repay the kindness of India and show appreciation to India. First, stop become the issue between India and China. Next, give an identity to the Tibetans so they belong to somewhere. If Tibet is their home, just go back. Being part of China is not that bad.
What you said Drolma is actually very true and right. Yes if Lobsang Sangay really means what he says about not wanting to discomfort India, the very first thing he can do is to STOP poking India with China issues!
He can stop asking India to help them/Tibetan cause and stand up for them and talk to China about them wanting their country back which is not even what the Dalai Lama is asking for actually. So Sangay is obviously lying again and obviously demanding a lot from India.
If he truly wants to "help" India and not discomfort India, he can, first of all, send out a notice to the exile Tibetans and Tibetans everywhere to seize all protests against China especially anything in India. They can start with that first and then move on from there.
How to trust Lobsang Sangay and the CTA seeing what they do is different from what they say. They act like they are righteous and they care about the Tibetans but they actually are not. India was very kind to offer citizenship to the Tibetans but the CTA has made it very difficult for the Tibetans to become Indian citizen.
Why is the CTA making things so difficult for the Tibetans? Why didn't the CTA want a better future for the Tibetans? Simple, the CTA needs refugees in order to continue to receive financial aids from the sponsors so they don't have to work hard for the money.
This is how greedy the CTA is. They are only making use of the Tibetans to make money for themselves. This is also the reason why Tibet cause will never succeed.
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Just being a Tibetan is also starting to cause issues and discomfort Indians.
Reports on racism against Tibetans are becoming more apparent. If India's law enforcement officers are racist against Tibetans, then Tibetans can forget about being safe in India.
This also goes to show that Indians are not happy with Tibetans being in their land and are getting more and more irritated with them being around. How long more can Tibetan in exile continue taking from India? How long more do you think today's India will tolerate especially since there is a need for them to build a strong and close relationship with China? CTA sure does not know how to manage the people and all they do is irk China, so this will just make exile Tibetans living in India more uncertain.
What more the Tibetan youth who was attacked wants to speak up more and seek justice, this could trigger bigger issues that's been brewing between Indians and Tibetans. This is not to say that the youth should not speak up and keep quiet, I am merely highlighting that in general, Indians are NOT happy with Tibetans and this could possibly bring about something worse. Are the Tibetans ready for more hostility from the Indians?
Tibetans do need to remember that India has every right to kick the Tibetans out and if Indians protest more, this could happen. Of course, Tibetans living with such a threat at the back of their heads is also not healthy and peaceful. What will happen next from this incident would be something to keep an eye out.
Policeman who assaulted me was racially motivated, says Tibetan youth thrashed in Delhi
DHARAMSHALA, Oct. 25: Days after the incident of two Tibetan youths who were assaulted by an on-duty policeman in Delhi’s Mahipalpur area for calling a nearby police station for assistance to care for an injured pig attracted national attention, one of the Tibetan youths has said that the incident is not only of assault but also of racism.
Tenzin Lhakpa, 20, who is recovering from bruises and ankle injury after being thrashed by a policeman said that the police officer identified to be Vikram Singh used vulgar language at the two Tibetan youths and threatened to kill them if they were seen again in the area. “We were simply trying to help the injured animal. The policeman called us “cheni” (Chinese) and used derogatory reference to my hometown in Uttarakhand being backward,” Lhakpa told Phayul.
In the voice clip that was recorded secretly by the victim, police officer Vikram Singh was heard saying, “You people from the hills come to Delhi and ask for freedom, Should I shoot you?”. The same officer assaulted the two Tibetan youths and told the room-mate of the victim, a youth who is ethnically an Indian, asking him to leave the spot immediately.
The police officer Vikram Singh is now sent to ‘district lines’, a professional jargon used by the police for personnel who are kept away from active duty or part of an investigation pending an inquiry on him for corruption or any other dereliction of duty. Lhakpa revealed that he has been getting calls from the accused officer’s people urging him to drop the case and settle the matter privately.
“The policeman knows that what he did was wrong. That is why I have been getting calls to drop the matter but this incident is much bigger than me or my injuries. There are many cases of racial discrimination by some crooked people of the law enforcements and if I don’t seek justice and see it through then more incidents of this nature will happen again,” Lhakpa who is an intern at Mahipalpur’s Radisson Blu hotel said.
The incident happened in the wee hours of Tuesday, when two Tibetan youths who found an injured pig called an animal rescue center who instructed them to call the 100 number which is India's 911. Both Tenzin Lhakpa, 20, who is pursuing hotel management at IMS University Delhi and Tenzin Kunsel, a nursing student at Delhi’s Jamia Hamdard University sustained bruises and swellings from being beaten with a stick.
Mahipalpur police station where the accused officer was stationed has refused to register a First Information Report (FIR) on Friday, saying that the necessary formalities can only be conducted once the medical reports of the victims are studied, according to the victim’s mother. Both the parents of the victim work for a Dehradun based NGO called Tibetan Animal Lovers, that rescues and helps animals.
Source: [url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41883&article=Policeman+who+assaulted+me+was+racially+motivated%2c+says+Tibetan+youth+thrashed+in+Delhi[/url] ([url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41883&article=Policeman+who+assaulted+me+was+racially+motivated%2c+says+Tibetan+youth+thrashed+in+Delhi[/url])
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Just being a Tibetan is also starting to cause issues and discomfort Indians.
Reports on racism against Tibetans are becoming more apparent. If India's law enforcement officers are racist against Tibetans, then Tibetans can forget about being safe in India.
This also goes to show that Indians are not happy with Tibetans being in their land and are getting more and more irritated with them being around. How long more can Tibetan in exile continue taking from India? How long more do you think today's India will tolerate especially since there is a need for them to build a strong and close relationship with China? CTA sure does not know how to manage the people and all they do is irk China, so this will just make exile Tibetans living in India more uncertain.
What more the Tibetan youth who was attacked wants to speak up more and seek justice, this could trigger bigger issues that's been brewing between Indians and Tibetans. This is not to say that the youth should not speak up and keep quiet, I am merely highlighting that in general, Indians are NOT happy with Tibetans and this could possibly bring about something worse. Are the Tibetans ready for more hostility from the Indians?
Tibetans do need to remember that India has every right to kick the Tibetans out and if Indians protest more, this could happen. Of course, Tibetans living with such a threat at the back of their heads is also not healthy and peaceful. What will happen next from this incident would be something to keep an eye out.
Policeman who assaulted me was racially motivated, says Tibetan youth thrashed in Delhi
DHARAMSHALA, Oct. 25: Days after the incident of two Tibetan youths who were assaulted by an on-duty policeman in Delhi’s Mahipalpur area for calling a nearby police station for assistance to care for an injured pig attracted national attention, one of the Tibetan youths has said that the incident is not only of assault but also of racism.
Tenzin Lhakpa, 20, who is recovering from bruises and ankle injury after being thrashed by a policeman said that the police officer identified to be Vikram Singh used vulgar language at the two Tibetan youths and threatened to kill them if they were seen again in the area. “We were simply trying to help the injured animal. The policeman called us “cheni” (Chinese) and used derogatory reference to my hometown in Uttarakhand being backward,” Lhakpa told Phayul.
In the voice clip that was recorded secretly by the victim, police officer Vikram Singh was heard saying, “You people from the hills come to Delhi and ask for freedom, Should I shoot you?”. The same officer assaulted the two Tibetan youths and told the room-mate of the victim, a youth who is ethnically an Indian, asking him to leave the spot immediately.
The police officer Vikram Singh is now sent to ‘district lines’, a professional jargon used by the police for personnel who are kept away from active duty or part of an investigation pending an inquiry on him for corruption or any other dereliction of duty. Lhakpa revealed that he has been getting calls from the accused officer’s people urging him to drop the case and settle the matter privately.
“The policeman knows that what he did was wrong. That is why I have been getting calls to drop the matter but this incident is much bigger than me or my injuries. There are many cases of racial discrimination by some crooked people of the law enforcements and if I don’t seek justice and see it through then more incidents of this nature will happen again,” Lhakpa who is an intern at Mahipalpur’s Radisson Blu hotel said.
The incident happened in the wee hours of Tuesday, when two Tibetan youths who found an injured pig called an animal rescue center who instructed them to call the 100 number which is India's 911. Both Tenzin Lhakpa, 20, who is pursuing hotel management at IMS University Delhi and Tenzin Kunsel, a nursing student at Delhi’s Jamia Hamdard University sustained bruises and swellings from being beaten with a stick.
Mahipalpur police station where the accused officer was stationed has refused to register a First Information Report (FIR) on Friday, saying that the necessary formalities can only be conducted once the medical reports of the victims are studied, according to the victim’s mother. Both the parents of the victim work for a Dehradun based NGO called Tibetan Animal Lovers, that rescues and helps animals.
Source: [url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41883&article=Policeman+who+assaulted+me+was+racially+motivated%2c+says+Tibetan+youth+thrashed+in+Delhi[/url] ([url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41883&article=Policeman+who+assaulted+me+was+racially+motivated%2c+says+Tibetan+youth+thrashed+in+Delhi[/url])
Very sad to hear this. Even Indian is being racist and this is really a wake-up call for the Tibetan to realize that their situation is really from bad to worse. Tibetan already can't resolve the issue with China which make them unable to return to Tibet and now even having problem with the kind host India. What is CTA going to do now? What is their plan with China and India?
CTA really don't try to push the limit of the Chinese and Indian. CTA has to find a way to have a dialogue with the Chinese and to resolve the issue before India put in further pressure to the Tibetan.
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The Tibetans are just saving their own face by saying this. Their last "Thank you, India" event was being cancelled and moved to a much smaller venue in Dharamshala is proof that India had enough of them. A memo was sent to Indian officials to avoid participating in any Tibetan events as well. These are clear efforts from India to get into China's good books by creating a distance between themselves and the Tibetans.
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Just being a Tibetan is also starting to cause issues and discomfort Indians.
Reports on racism against Tibetans are becoming more apparent. If India's law enforcement officers are racist against Tibetans, then Tibetans can forget about being safe in India.
This also goes to show that Indians are not happy with Tibetans being in their land and are getting more and more irritated with them being around. How long more can Tibetan in exile continue taking from India? How long more do you think today's India will tolerate especially since there is a need for them to build a strong and close relationship with China? CTA sure does not know how to manage the people and all they do is irk China, so this will just make exile Tibetans living in India more uncertain.
What more the Tibetan youth who was attacked wants to speak up more and seek justice, this could trigger bigger issues that's been brewing between Indians and Tibetans. This is not to say that the youth should not speak up and keep quiet, I am merely highlighting that in general, Indians are NOT happy with Tibetans and this could possibly bring about something worse. Are the Tibetans ready for more hostility from the Indians?
Tibetans do need to remember that India has every right to kick the Tibetans out and if Indians protest more, this could happen. Of course, Tibetans living with such a threat at the back of their heads is also not healthy and peaceful. What will happen next from this incident would be something to keep an eye out.
Policeman who assaulted me was racially motivated, says Tibetan youth thrashed in Delhi
DHARAMSHALA, Oct. 25: Days after the incident of two Tibetan youths who were assaulted by an on-duty policeman in Delhi’s Mahipalpur area for calling a nearby police station for assistance to care for an injured pig attracted national attention, one of the Tibetan youths has said that the incident is not only of assault but also of racism.
Tenzin Lhakpa, 20, who is recovering from bruises and ankle injury after being thrashed by a policeman said that the police officer identified to be Vikram Singh used vulgar language at the two Tibetan youths and threatened to kill them if they were seen again in the area. “We were simply trying to help the injured animal. The policeman called us “cheni” (Chinese) and used derogatory reference to my hometown in Uttarakhand being backward,” Lhakpa told Phayul.
In the voice clip that was recorded secretly by the victim, police officer Vikram Singh was heard saying, “You people from the hills come to Delhi and ask for freedom, Should I shoot you?”. The same officer assaulted the two Tibetan youths and told the room-mate of the victim, a youth who is ethnically an Indian, asking him to leave the spot immediately.
The police officer Vikram Singh is now sent to ‘district lines’, a professional jargon used by the police for personnel who are kept away from active duty or part of an investigation pending an inquiry on him for corruption or any other dereliction of duty. Lhakpa revealed that he has been getting calls from the accused officer’s people urging him to drop the case and settle the matter privately.
“The policeman knows that what he did was wrong. That is why I have been getting calls to drop the matter but this incident is much bigger than me or my injuries. There are many cases of racial discrimination by some crooked people of the law enforcements and if I don’t seek justice and see it through then more incidents of this nature will happen again,” Lhakpa who is an intern at Mahipalpur’s Radisson Blu hotel said.
The incident happened in the wee hours of Tuesday, when two Tibetan youths who found an injured pig called an animal rescue center who instructed them to call the 100 number which is India's 911. Both Tenzin Lhakpa, 20, who is pursuing hotel management at IMS University Delhi and Tenzin Kunsel, a nursing student at Delhi’s Jamia Hamdard University sustained bruises and swellings from being beaten with a stick.
Mahipalpur police station where the accused officer was stationed has refused to register a First Information Report (FIR) on Friday, saying that the necessary formalities can only be conducted once the medical reports of the victims are studied, according to the victim’s mother. Both the parents of the victim work for a Dehradun based NGO called Tibetan Animal Lovers, that rescues and helps animals.
Source: [url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41883&article=Policeman+who+assaulted+me+was+racially+motivated%2c+says+Tibetan+youth+thrashed+in+Delhi[/url] ([url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41883&article=Policeman+who+assaulted+me+was+racially+motivated%2c+says+Tibetan+youth+thrashed+in+Delhi[/url])
Very sad to hear this. Even Indian is being racist and this is really a wake-up call for the Tibetan to realize that their situation is really from bad to worse. Tibetan already can't resolve the issue with China which make them unable to return to Tibet and now even having problem with the kind host India. What is CTA going to do now? What is their plan with China and India?
CTA really don't try to push the limit of the Chinese and Indian. CTA has to find a way to have a dialogue with the Chinese and to resolve the issue before India put in further pressure to the Tibetan.
Now the Tibetans are complaining about people being racists? Ain't they racists as well when they call Chinese names? We really cannot blame Indians for being hostile with the Tibetans. It really is not a racism issue, it is because Tibetans have been very ungrateful and leech on India for the past 60 years.
The Tibetans have used so much of Indian's resources including natural resources and monetary resources but they never give anything back. All the Tibetans give to India is problem after problem. India wants to have a better relationship China but the Tibetans are getting in the way.
So if Lobsang Sangay meant what he says, he should try to help India improve its relationship with China. They can also assimilate into Indian society and start to contribute into Indian's tax system. These will be better than just saying it.