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Title: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: icy on June 10, 2014, 02:24:56 AM: More hard evidence, the Dalai Lama and Central Tibetan Administration cast out Shugden children who had newly arrived on Indian soil from Tibet hoping to be in the care and education of the Tibetan leadership but they were cast out merely for the reason that they practised the great protector, Dorje Shugden. Why the compassion of Dalai Lama who is Chenrezig discriminated little kids from Shugden family? Innocent little kids are not spared in the ban. Why do Chenrezig despise little innocent kids? Why do kids have to suffer at the expense of the ban? This is injustice and violates human rights to the core!

16 Tibetan kids told to leave state
Kulwinder Sandhu
Tribune News Service
Friday, September 28, 2007, Chandigarh, India

Dharamsala, September 27
Kangra SP Gyaneshwar Singh under Section 3(2) of the Foreign Registration Act has issued notices to 16 Tibetan children, who entered the country via Nepal by obtaining special entry permit, to leave Himachal Pradesh within one week.

The SP said there was resentment prevailing among the Tibetan community against these children and a problem of law and order could emerge in McLeodganj Therefore, they had been asked to move out of the state, he said.

These children were allegedly the followers of Shugden sect of the Tibetans, who were ideologically against the supremacy of the Dalai Lama. They were basically hardliners and were allegedly indulging in violent activities that could lead to breach of peace.

As per the reports available, these children in the age group of 13 years to 18 years belongto the Gedang area of Tibet had arrived at McLeodganj on July 15 this year for Tibetan studies and since then they were kept in Tibetan Reception Centre, a temporary hostel run by the Tibetan government for the new arrivals from Tibet.

The SP has issued notices to these children to leave the state reacting to a complaint filed by the Tibetan administration. They had come here on valid documents.

The fate of these children is not known as either, the Union Government will deport them back to China where they may land into jail or the district police will arrest them as per the law of the land after one week, the expiry of the notice period. The Tribune correspondent tried to meet the children but the Tibetan authorities did not allow him to meet them.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070928/himachal.htm#6 (http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070928/himachal.htm#6)
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: icy on June 10, 2014, 02:26:00 AM: https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10403452_746484175404223_5171831763639760014_n.jpg
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: icy on June 10, 2014, 02:36:15 AM: Evidence from the Health Department calling for the resignation of Shugden practitioners:

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This is the translation in English to the above letters in Tibetan language from the Health Department:

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Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: dsiluvu on June 11, 2014, 10:03:03 AM: WHAT ON EARTH!!!

These evidences needs to be recorded down! And they say there is no ban? What kind of Buddhist society and govt is this? The Tibetan Leadership sure acts, talks and walks like a typical communist regime!

How on earth can they allow this to affect children??? It is so disgusting! Totally losing respect for HHDL and Tibetans.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Tenzin K on June 14, 2014, 05:51:49 AM: It’s so ridiculous! The discrimination is too much!

Innocent children being discriminate from being care and education from their own government. It’s really shame to the CTA. In order to make the country strong and improve is to unite the people and provide the best education to train the young generation to bring the government to another level. The exile is very weak and incapable to gain freedom. But what make things worse is that they never think long term on how to educate the young one to continue preserve Tibetan culture and believe.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Galen on June 14, 2014, 07:43:58 AM: These children came to India in search of better education and hoping that their government will be able to help them to have a better future. Instead, they now face eviction from their community who reported them to the police. It was the CTA who reported them. This is just betrayal in broad daylight. All this is because they have a different set of practices. How could the Tibetan community prosper and grow if the government keeps on dividing and cause disharmony? All they do is they blame China for their failure in their cause.

Even the notice from the Dept of Health to their doctors and nurses. All should give up their Dorje Shugden practice else quit! No two ways about it. This is clear discrimination and they still claim that they treat all Tibetans equally and have freedom. What more evidence is needed?
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Solomon Lang on June 14, 2014, 07:56:04 AM: More evidence:

http://internationalshugdencommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Monasterynotwelcomesign.jpg (http://internationalshugdencommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Monasterynotwelcomesign.jpg)

http://internationalshugdencommunity.com/shugden-practitioners-denied-medical-attention/ (http://internationalshugdencommunity.com/shugden-practitioners-denied-medical-attention/)
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Solomon Lang on June 14, 2014, 07:58:45 AM: More:

http://www.westernshugdensociety.org/guest-blogs/untouchables/ (http://www.westernshugdensociety.org/guest-blogs/untouchables/)
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: maricisun on June 22, 2014, 03:53:18 PM: This is ridiculous to discriminate children. The parents bring the children to India for a better future and education but it turns out they are going to be evicted just because of practicing the religion they deem evil?
What about freedom of religion that the CTA mention? How cruel to treat the same people differently just because they practice Dorje Shugden.
Evidence are there and let's hope that the fight for the ban be lifted as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: dondrup on June 22, 2014, 06:13:57 PM: CTA is really a ruthless government! Because CTA had enforced the ban, these 16 Tibetan children had to be deported! Evidences of abuse and discrimination by CTA and others towards Dorje Shugden followers abound! CTA stop lying! Dalai Lama stop lying! you said there is no ban, you are wrong! Please lift the ban as the ban is causing a lot of inconveniences, problems and suffering for the Tibetans who practise Dorje Shugden.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: dsiluvu on June 23, 2014, 09:54:16 AM: I stumbled upon this interesting twitter comment while surfing...

More wonderful well-wishes from those strong, devoted Dalai Lama/CTA/Buddhist... they give more threats... seems to be what they learn at every teaching from HHDL..

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And what an idiot to point out to the world there is a hit list lol. Sure is smart! Bravo CTA, you did it again!
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: icy on August 14, 2014, 01:55:39 AM: Is this the Dalai Lama's idea of Compassion & Wisdom? Are these the actions of a holy being or of a Religious Dictator?

The sign is outside Gaden Jangtse monastery medical centre and it reads:

"We disassociate from anyone affiliated with Dorje Shugden.

The community of Gaden Jangtse is in full agreement that these people are not permitted the use of our health care, doctor consultations etc."

Apartheid on Buddhaland. A clear violation of the human rights act.

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Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: christine V on August 17, 2014, 07:03:14 AM: HA !! no ban! what's the lies that CTA trying to tell ? If there are no bans, why these signage appear? If there is no ban, CTA why your team have no Dorje Shugden practitioner. How many lies you trying to tell and disgrace to H.H Dalai Lama.

Practice Dorje Shugden could harm Dalai Lama? This mean what, do you realise what you talking about CTA? This statement, you trying to tell the world Dorje Shugden practice is more powerful than Dalai Lama, who know as Boddhisattvas of compassion?

What illogical ideas it is that you are trying to plant in to your people, CTA! You treat your people who are ignorant and who will blindly follow you? This kind of government who acted so violently in refugees camp in India. Do you think what will the Tibetan in Tibets think of you? Do they really wanted you to go back to Tibet and rules them? Like how you rules in Dharamsala? You are so sick CTA, lying with eyes wide opened!
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Blueupali on August 17, 2014, 07:59:32 AM: Oh, guys, don't be silly. Ban? Please! I mean it is not banning people from practicing right...they are just saying that you can practice if you want to, but then you can't work in the government or have equal rights or enter our shops, or clinics.... but that's not a BAN you guys, that's just good advice from His Holiness. oh sorry I think I had a sip of the Dalai Lama's cool-aide... don't drink the cool-aide you guys.
This is the sort of evidence that we need to mention when we mention that there is a ban to the west. saying just that people were thrown out of monestaries, while significant if the person understands Tibetan Society or Buddhism, isn't as effective with westerners as mentioning that the kids are sent back, away from school, that the Clinics close their doors to Shugdens, etc. That is easier to understand, regardless of your religious background.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: lotus1 on August 17, 2014, 09:36:07 AM: No ban? CTA treats all Tibetan fairly and equally???!!! With these evidence that showing what are happening and how the Dorje Shugden practitioners are treated, one can surely do their own judgement call if there is any ban and if there is any human rights abuse to the Dorje Shugden practitioners.

There are so many cases of the Human Rights Abuses but CTA just denied it. Liars!! We should let more people know about these and create more awareness to people around what is happening actually. Please be fair. Lift the ban!
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Manjushri on August 17, 2014, 03:10:38 PM: Clearly whatever has been put forth by CTA and His holiness that there is no ban, and that people still have the "freedom" to practise is false. If they had the freedom to practise, they would not be subjected to such discrimination. If they had the freedom to practise, then they would not be asked to resigned or deported from the country because of their religious practises. So what lies are the CTA and His Holiness poisoning the minds of people with when they said that there is no ban on the practise of Dorje Shugden. There are too many evidences to prove otherwise.

It's frustrating that despite all these evidences that are proven, which totally and logically refutes all the claims and statements made by CTA and/or His Holiness Dalai Lama, they can still continue to lie and remain in denial. When will this stop? The ban has to come down!
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: samayakeeper on August 17, 2014, 03:38:11 PM: So many discrimination, threats, bodily harm being carried out against peaceful Tibetans who wanted nothing from their exiled government except to be left in peace to continue with their preferred spiritual practices. Now similar treatments are being imposed on innocent children. And the Dalai Lama seems to be okay with it. Needless to say the big bully is the CTA.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Kim Hyun Jae on August 17, 2014, 03:51:15 PM: The CTA had repeatedly denied any written forms of evidence in the discrimination of Dorje Shugden ban and DS practitioners. The clear evidence were shown here of the issuance of the Letter of Notice to doctors and outside the clinic/hospital to DS practitioners. How they can blatantly deny. this fact beats me.

How can the CTA literally deports the young Tibetans children back from India to return to China when they endured suffering just to get to the Tibetan settlement? Are they heartless and is the Dalai Lama's office heartless too?
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: gbds3jewels on August 25, 2014, 05:52:31 AM: Ban or no ban, this action by CTA is cruel, madness and a disgrace to humanity. It seems to me Tibetans may be better off without any administrative government at all. I'm sure they will be shown more mercy seeking asylum from any foreign government than seeking help from their own so called government. CTA is corrupted to the core and I'm not just referring to monetary corruption.

Thank you DorjeShugden.com for bringing these atrocities to the attention of the public because one way or another someone has to stop CTA. Tibetans should not allow their governing administration to commit such crime against their own people.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: grandmapele on August 25, 2014, 06:44:37 AM: This is very sad. Children should not be put on the line like that. The fact that they are refugees make it even more poignant.

CTA, please don't repeat South Africa's mistake and please don't follow Hitler's example of genocide. Please remember that you will be killing your own gene pool. You don't need to be spiritual to think along those lines.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: prodorjeshugden on June 22, 2017, 02:49:49 PM: It is really sad to see how these innocent kids are treated by the CTA. Who knows what sort of terrible fate will await them once they are kicked out of the country.
The innocent children travelled to India searching for a better place to live in only to be told to leave because they practiced the Dharma protector Dorje Shugden.
The Dalai Lama and the CTA both claim that there is no ban, but yet this happens. So how will the Dalai Lama and the CTA explain this issue? Is there a ban or no ban?

I really hope that the CTA and the Dalai Lama can stop telling white lies and bring down the ban immediately before any further conflict erupts.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Pema8 on June 25, 2017, 10:43:55 AM: Still, until today the ban on Dorje Shugden practitioners is a heavy burden on all the Tibetans. So many people are treated very unfairly and even children have to face severe repercussions.

What kind of government does not protect all their children? It is such a shame for the CTA to discriminate and punish innocent children because of their religion. It is obvious that even after so many years no harm has been done to the Dalai Lama or anyone else by Dorje Shugden.

So when do they stop to disunite the Tibetans and stop their non-democratic actions?!

It is time to give the Tibetans a future and find peace with China. There is no doubt that after 60 years, there is not even a slight hope to gain back Tibet!

CTA, when do you start to help your people and end the discrimination?!?
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: michaela on July 17, 2017, 04:21:40 AM: What I found interesting is the CTA is busy promoting China's human right abuses, they themselves are abusing the basic human rights of Dorje Shugden practitioners.

Quote from: lotus1 on August 17, 2014, 09:36:07 AM

No ban? CTA treats all Tibetan fairly and equally???!!! With these evidence that showing what are happening and how the Dorje Shugden practitioners are treated, one can surely do their own judgement call if there is any ban and if there is any human rights abuse to the Dorje Shugden practitioners.

There are so many cases of the Human Rights Abuses but CTA just denied it. Liars!! We should let more people know about these and create more awareness to people around what is happening actually. Please be fair. Lift the ban!
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Matibhadra on July 18, 2017, 02:52:30 PM: Quote
Please be fair. Lift the ban!

Merely lifting the ban is not fair enough. If fairness is what one expects from the evil dalie and the CTA scum, they need no less than to disband and to put themselves in prison until they cease to be a danger to humanity. In other words, to throw themselves where they belong, the garbage bin of history.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: michaela on July 26, 2017, 05:38:17 PM: The ironic thing is although the CTA is abusing the human rights of the Tibetans in exile, the CTA always portray itself as the victim of human rights abuse to collect sympathy in the mind of wealthy and developed countries, so the CTA can continue to milk more money to them. The ironic thing is money will give them the resources necessary to continue their human rights abuse. The only way to control the CTA is by cutting off their source of fund.
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: grandmapele on July 27, 2017, 08:03:50 AM: Well, seeing when this was first posted, CTA has not changed. They are still blocking anyone who practices Dorje Shugden from joining the Tibetan community in India unless they swear to give up the practice. Talk about strong arm tactics. This is never going to end so long as the Dalai Lama is alive and the CTA can use his name to do all kinds of unthinkable acts. When will they peel themselves off the floor and start being human and Buddhists at that?
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: Belinda Mae on July 29, 2017, 02:16:12 PM: CTA is beginning to show the bad side of then to the world. By stopping the Dorje Shugden worshipper kids from entering to Dharamsala to study is already enough to show that they are violating human rights act. The kids are innocent but they are affected by the ban. It is sad to see what will happen to the kids. May Dorje Shugden bless them _/\_
Title: Re: Evidence of Human Rights Abuses by the Central Tibetan Administration
Post by: dsnowlion on August 03, 2017, 08:53:57 AM: Well, this is what Lukar Jam got for trying to run for Prime Minister and for writing a poem that they claim is wishing Dalai Lama's death. So this is what you get for having an opinion.

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The result of the Tibetan leadership’s sustained campaign to harass Lukar Jam culminated in a violent attack on his car in March 2017.

So if the Tibetan Leadership wants to talk about human rights, they should really start talking about their own abuse to their own people first. I think more and more Tibetan Youths and educated Tibetans from TCV are going to not stand for... Tibetans are no longer just the farmers and common labourers we see in Tibet, the new generation are smart, educated and outspoken just like this smart dude here... http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/cuts-questions-tibetan-prime-minister/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/cuts-questions-tibetan-prime-minister/)