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Title: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: Jessie Fong on January 12, 2014, 04:25:07 PM

Scientists now say that they can prove that consciousness moves to another universe at the time of death. This is all scientific but if we truly believe that what we leave behind is only a shell and the consciousness continues, then this finding is nothing new ...

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A book titled “Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the Nature of the Universe“ has stirred up the Internet, because it contained a notion that life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever. The author of this publication, scientist Dr. Robert Lanza who was voted the 3rd most important scientist alive by the NY Times, has no doubts that this is possible.

Beyond time and space
Lanza is an expert in regenerative medicine and scientific director of Advanced Cell Technology Company. Before he has been known for his extensive research which dealt with stem cells, he was also famous for several successful experiments on cloning endangered animal species.

But not so long ago, the scientist became involved with physics, quantum mechanics and astrophysics. This explosive mixture has given birth to the new theory of biocentrism, which the professor has been preaching ever since.  Biocentrism teaches that life and consciousness are fundamental to the universe.  It is consciousness that creates the material universe, not the other way around.

Lanza points to the structure of the universe itself, and that the laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be fine-tuned for life, implying intelligence existed prior to matter.  He also claims that space and time are not objects or things, but rather tools of our animal understanding.  Lanza says that we carry space and time around with us “like turtles with shells.” meaning that when the shell comes off (space and time), we still exist.

The theory implies that death of consciousness simply does not exist.   It only exists as a thought because people identify themselves with their body. They believe that the body is going to perish, sooner or later, thinking their consciousness will disappear too.  If the body generates consciousness, then consciousness dies when the body dies.  But if the body receives consciousness in the same way that a cable box receives satellite signals, then of course consciousness does not end at the death of the physical vehicle. In fact, consciousness exists outside of constraints of time and space. It is able to be anywhere: in the human body and outside of it. In other words, it is non-local in the same sense that quantum objects are non-local.

Lanza also believes that multiple universes can exist simultaneously.  In one universe, the body can be dead. And in another it continues to exist, absorbing consciousness which migrated into this universe.  This means that a dead person while traveling through the same tunnel ends up not in hell or in heaven, but in a similar world he or she once inhabited, but this time alive. And so on, infinitely.  It’s almost like a cosmic Russian doll afterlife effect.

Multiple worlds
This hope-instilling, but extremely controversial theory by Lanza has many unwitting supporters, not just mere mortals who want to live forever, but also some well-known scientists. These are the physicists and astrophysicists who tend to agree with existence of parallel worlds and who suggest the possibility of multiple universes. Multiverse (multi-universe) is a so-called scientific concept, which they defend. They believe that no physical laws exist which would prohibit the existence of parallel worlds.

The first one was a science fiction writer H.G. Wells who proclaimed in 1895 in his story “The Door in the Wall”.  And after 62 years, this idea was developed by Dr. Hugh Everett in his graduate thesis at the Princeton University. It basically posits that at any given moment the universe divides into countless similar instances. And the next moment, these “newborn” universes split in a similar fashion. In some of these worlds you may be present: reading this article in one universe, or watching TV in another.

The triggering factor for these multiplying worlds is our actions, explained Everett. If we make some choices, instantly one universe splits into two with different versions of outcomes.

In the 1980s, Andrei Linde, scientist from the Lebedev’s Institute of physics, developed the theory of multiple universes. He is now a professor at Stanford University.  Linde explained: Space consists of many inflating spheres, which give rise to similar spheres, and those, in turn, produce spheres in even greater numbers, and so on to infinity. In the universe, they are spaced apart. They are not aware of each other’s existence. But they represent parts of the same physical universe.

The fact that our universe is not alone is supported by data received from the Planck space telescope. Using the data, scientists have created the most accurate map of the microwave background, the so-called cosmic relic background radiation, which has remained since the inception of our universe. They also found that the universe has a lot of dark recesses represented by some holes and extensive gaps.

Theoretical physicist Laura Mersini-Houghton from the North Carolina University with her colleagues argue: the anomalies of the microwave background exist due to the fact that our universe is influenced by other universes existing nearby. And holes and gaps are a direct result of attacks on us by neighboring universes.

Soul
So, there is abundance of places or other universes where our soul could migrate after death, according to the theory of neo-biocentrism. But does the soul exist?  Is there any scientific theory of consciousness that could accommodate such a claim?  According to Dr. Stuart Hameroff, a near-death experience happens when the quantum information that inhabits the nervous system leaves the body and dissipates into the universe.  Contrary to materialistic accounts of consciousness, Dr. Hameroff offers an alternative explanation of consciousness that can perhaps appeal to both the rational scientific mind and personal intuitions.

Consciousness resides, according to Stuart and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose, in the microtubules of the brain cells, which are the primary sites of quantum processing.  Upon death, this information is released from your body, meaning that your consciousness goes with it. They have argued that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects in these microtubules, a theory which they dubbed orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR).

Consciousness, or at least proto-consciousness is theorized by them to be a fundamental property of the universe, present even at the first moment of the universe during the Big Bang. “In one such scheme proto-conscious experience is a basic property of physical reality accessible to a quantum process associated with brain activity.”

Our souls are in fact constructed from the very fabric of the universe – and may have existed since the beginning of time.  Our brains are just receivers and amplifiers for the proto-consciousness that is intrinsic to the fabric of space-time. So is there really a part of your consciousness that is non-material and will live on after the death of your physical body?

Dr Hameroff told the Science Channel’s Through the Wormhole documentary: “Let’s say the heart stops beating, the blood stops flowing, the microtubules lose their quantum state. The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can’t be destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large”.  Robert Lanza would add here that not only does it exist in the universe, it exists perhaps in another universe.

If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can go back into the microtubules and the patient says “I had a near death experience”‘

He adds: “If they’re not revived, and the patient dies, it’s possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul.”

This account of quantum consciousness explains things like near-death experiences, astral projection, out of body experiences, and even reincarnation without needing to appeal to religious ideology.  The energy of your consciousness potentially gets recycled back into a different body at some point, and in the mean time it exists outside of the physical body on some other level of reality, and possibly in another universe.








Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: xyz_generation on January 12, 2014, 05:40:51 PM
Thanks for sharing such an interesting article that I really like. I do believe in  parallel existence of our self in another universe and this is the topic which I have discussed with a friend over a cup of tea, some day in September 2013.
I am glad there are scientist doing research on this and I hope they can find the 'Key' to this theory in a near future.
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: Matibhadra on January 13, 2014, 12:11:43 AM
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”This account of quantum consciousness explains things like near-death experiences, astral projection, out of body experiences, and even reincarnation without needing to appeal to religious ideology.”

While trying to put down religious traditions, the ”scientist” did not add anything to what Buddhism, based on rigorous logic and not on guesses, already teaches for thousands of years.

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Biocentrism teaches that life and consciousness are fundamental to the universe.  It is consciousness that creates the material universe, not the other way around. Lanza points to the structure of the universe itself, and that the laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be fine-tuned for life, implying intelligence existed prior to matter.

This logic, or rather mere guess, is extremely gross and weak, and actually could be used to support the infamous ”intelligent design” ideology, which is just a pseudo-scientific transvestite for monotheism.
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: eyesoftara on January 13, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
Yes. I have read that consciousness is needed to explain many of the "dead ends" in quantum theory. What it means is that scientist are unable to explain many phenomena scientifically unless they assume that either human consciousness plays a part in how the world works or that even things like photons seem to have consciousness.
It is not surprising that scientist like Dr. Robert Lanza has made such conclusions but this theory is still controversial in the eyes of "conventional" scientist.

Interestingly, Buddhism has always stated that the "consciousness" move on from one life to another.
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: vajrastorm on January 17, 2014, 12:01:57 AM
"(After death),the energy of your consciousness potentially gets recycled back into a different body at some point, and in the meantime it exists outside of the physical body on some other level of reality". This explanation or theory ,by scientists, clearly supports reincarnation , as well, as the lack of an inherent "I" in us.   

Yes it would appear that, in quantum physics plus the science of the mind studies based on laboratory observations of the mind in meditation, lie the way forward to meld science with religion. It also shows that science is now taking baby steps to begin to explore and discover what Lord Buddha, over 2500 years ago, discovered directly about the truths of reincarnation and karma.
   
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: Midakpa on January 17, 2014, 02:41:25 PM
Scientists have come up with interesting theories about the universe. There are many theories about the beginning of the universe, the nature of the universe and so on. The common belief now is the existence of a multiverse. The number of possible universes is an incomprehensible 10500. This means that our universe is merely one of billions.

Now the question is, does the consciousness migrate from one universe to another after death. According to Buddhism, the answer is YES! Buddhists do not believe in the soul (atman). The word used is "mind" or "consciousness". After death, this very ordinary, simple mind, which is the continuity of the same mind when one was alive, separates from the body and seeks another. This intermediate state of mind is under the control of karma, and, as a result of its karma, may migrate to another universe. Similarly, the consciousness of a person born on earth may have come from another universe. So, until we become enlightened and can control our rebirth, basically we are migrators. I hope one day, the scientists will have a definite, infallible theory that will prove that this type of migration of the consciousness happens after death.
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: gbds3jewels on January 19, 2014, 11:30:52 AM
One thing about this human discovery called science is that it keeps changing its mind every so often. Current used to go from pisitive to negative, then it was discovered only the electron moves so it's really negative to positive but still depicted as positive to negative because that theory was accepted for so long already.

Religion on the other hand has held on to its foundation of beliefs through different cultures, era, wars, generations, etc.

Science in all it's glory could not decipher how the human think. All the mathematics in the world that gives formula to the law of universe, space and time has no formula on the human mind. I wouldn't bank too much on what science says it can prove or not when it comes to where our consciousness comes from and where it goes. My money is in on Buddha when it comes to the human mind.

It's interesting nonetheless that there are more and more scientific discovery that seems to be in line with Buddhist teachings. Perhaps in this generation and future, science will need to take a more prominent in role in the spreading of dharma.
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: fruven on January 19, 2014, 01:57:23 PM
I gave up after reading the first few paragraphs. Why do they always need to mention the background of this scientist how 'famous' he is in this so and so field? There is nothing new. It sounds like a marketing pitch for people to buy their ideas. One of the most populated country in the world, India, already believe in reincarnation and rebirth into next life.

Now the big question is are the scientists ready to accept that this consciousness can reborn in animals? And now when you eat animals you're actually murdering this so called conscious beings. It's time to get real.
Title: Re: Scientists Claim That Quantum Theory Proves Consciousness Moves To Another Unive
Post by: gbds3jewels on February 02, 2014, 02:50:16 PM
Science is a field of discovery not a field of creation. Hence it obviously it's limitation to understand or unravel the mysteries of the universe and human consciousness. Can the human brain truly has the capacity to understand and grasp it's win creation?

Buddhism is one of the religion that best work in synchrony with science. Quantum mechanics is a theory that attempts to explain our existence but only succeed to the extend of our intellectual limitation. Buddhism on the other hand I believe if studied from the eyes of science would lend a hand to unravel the mystery of the universe further. Chaos theory and karma is another example of how Buddhism and science is in synchronicity.