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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: WisdomBeing on January 02, 2014, 03:49:40 AM
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Re this article, http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/cta-creates-violence-again, (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/cta-creates-violence-again,) I am so disgusted to read of how a senior, respected monk can be so violently beaten. Have these people no shame? Gen Chonze is 84 years old and it needed FIVE men to attack this frail old monk?????
How can anyone stomach this kind of behaviour?? In the name of the Dalai Lama and the Dharma???
Those who think that the Shugden ban doesn't affect anyone really, please read this article and share it far and wide. People must KNOW of this atrocity going on right in the heartland of compassion - in a Buddhist monastery. And what is behind the ban and the unjustifiable lack of logic behind it.
Please read, be upset, and DO something about it. Write to your MP. I will!
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The CTA is obviously not practicing the Dharma to harm an old monk. The news is shocking. New year and new violence by CTA. Well it is typical coming from them.
An old monk who has given so much benefit to society and served the dharma. Something always happens everytime the Dalai Lama comes to the south and speaks about dorje shugden. The Tibetans and CTA who are anti shugden have been going on twitter about Tibetan Freedom unchallenged, I say lets give them something to think about online. They have been
Below are their twitter handles
@snowlions @TIBETANS @bhorangzhen @Drlobsangsangay @tibet
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It certainly is a dastardly act by the attackers and I would not blame anyone to conclude the attackers are directly influenced by HHDL's attack on Shugden practitioners during His speech in Sera. HHDL certainly know the consequences of His speech. How ironic, this coming from Chenrezig Himself?
The Shugden practice has not resulted in a scratch on His Holiness but yet Shugden monks has suffered so much, the latest being Gen Chonze. Where is the compassion? Where is the Dharma? It makes mockery of the Dharma and any teachings that He gave. Has the Sangha degenerated so much? Is it a reflections of the collective karma of Tibetans? I believe so.
Sorry to say, this make me think that Tibetans will not get Tibet back. It will forever be part of China. Why? Because the CTA do not deserve it and they certainly do not represent all Tibetans.
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The Dalai Lama makes a speech inciting anti Shugdenists to attack Shugden practitioners. In his speech , he says that the pujas to Dorje Shugden are "killing" him. But how does peaceful Shugden bring about "killing"?Yet what he says is enough to incite CTA and cronies to begin violent attacks against Shugden practitioners. The timing of this speech and the attack on the 84 year-old longtime assistant of the previous and current incarnation of Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, is too close to be unrelated. However, over and beyond this is the fact that this attack comes also an aftermath of the failed trip of the abbot of Gaden Shartse to US to persuade Trijang Rinpoche to follow the Dalai Lama's instruction s to him to go to Sera Mey Monastery and attend His teachings there. Trijang Rinpoche also said "No" to the Dalai Lama about giving up his practice of Shugden.
That the Dalai Lama can so incite and the CTA can perpetuate such acts of violence, speak badly for Buddhism as a whole and Tibetan Buddhism in particular. Where is the essence of Buddha's teachings on compassion and peace and harmony?"In this sea of violence and powerplay, a sober and heartwarming from Trijang Rinpoche to the Dalai Lama , through the abbot of Gaden Shartse, was lost in transit. The message was to urge the Dalai Lama to focus on unity among Tibetans.
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Would it be possible for Admin or someone to post a translation of what the Dalai Lama said about Dorje Shugden, or to direct me to the appropriate webcast if there is an English translation?
The Dalai Lama needs to make up his mind. In one breath he says that Shugden pujas are killing him, but elsewhere he has said that he's going to live for a very long time, so which is it?
It sickens me that he gives Lamrim teachings and during that time, subtly or not so subtly, encourages violence towards Shugden practitioners. His non-sectarian stance is a lie - he'd better practise what he preaches before telling other people what to do.
Everything the Dalai Lama knows about Lamrim has come for the kindness of his Gelugpa Teachers who he is completely disrespecting by his actions. Can he really be so foolish not to realise that by undermining the credibility of those Teachers by causing them to be regarded as demon worshippers, he's also undermining the credibility of his own spiritual education?
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What still riles me about this latest act of violence by CTA or its cronies . is that they did not have even the slightest pinprick of conscience about hurting and inflicting injury on an elderly person, what more a monk, and one who had faithfully served two great Masters - the previous incarnation of Trijang Rinpoche(who had also been the 14th Dalai Lama's Tutor/Guru) and the current incarnation - for over 60 years. They did this act in a cowardly manner too. The attackers did not speak a word and they wore masks and were completely covered up.
Thank goodness that we have received good news that Gen Chonze is recovering from his injuries.
May he leave many more years in peace and good health to continue to serve the Dharma and Trijang Rinpoche in Trijang Ladrang.
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We will have something up very soon.
Admin
Would it be possible for Admin or someone to post a translation of what the Dalai Lama said about Dorje Shugden, or to direct me to the appropriate webcast if there is an English translation?
The Dalai Lama needs to make up his mind. In one breath he says that Shugden pujas are killing him, but elsewhere he has said that he's going to live for a very long time, so which is it?
It sickens me that he gives Lamrim teachings and during that time, subtly or not so subtly, encourages violence towards Shugden practitioners. His non-sectarian stance is a lie - he'd better practise what he preaches before telling other people what to do.
Everything the Dalai Lama knows about Lamrim has come for the kindness of his Gelugpa Teachers who he is completely disrespecting by his actions. Can he really be so foolish not to realise that by undermining the credibility of those Teachers by causing them to be regarded as demon worshippers, he's also undermining the credibility of his own spiritual education?
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We will have something up very soon.
Admin
Thanks for your kindness and dedication. :)
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What a crying shame that this has happened. By the violence that the Dalai Lama seemed to have knowingly incited, he brings even more discredit to himself. Only a few weeks before, the Dalai Lama had said this in an interview:
” Analysing the “Song on the Stages of the Path to Enlightenment,” the Tibetan spiritual leader offers a taste of the universalism that has made him a popular prophet for a secular age. He urges avoidance of Buddhism’s 10 specified non-virtuous acts – killing, lying, stealing, divisive talk among them – but then observes that shunning such actions is not exclusively Buddhist.
“If people are Christian, it can be a Christian practice; if they are Muslim, it can be a Muslim practice, and if they are Buddhist, it can be a Buddhist practice,” he says. “I respect other traditions for the help they bring their followers.”
[Source: http://tibet.net/2013/11/09/an-exclusive-interview-with-the-dalai-lama/ (http://tibet.net/2013/11/09/an-exclusive-interview-with-the-dalai-lama/)
The hypocrisy of the Dalai Lama is quite astounding and the world needs to know how dangerous the Dalai Lama can be. This culture of violence has been spreading like virus as members of the CTA, Lobsang Sangay himself, Pempa Tsering and Thupten Lungrhik have recently been heard uttering words that call for violence to be inflicted on Shugden worshippers.
The CTA has sold an image to the world of their being a just government fighting for freedom of the people but violence and crime are very much part of the CTA’s culture. In 1976 the head of the 13 Settlements (that opposed the Dalai Lama’s political ambitions) Gunthang Tsultrim was shot several times at point blank and when his assassin, Amdo Rekhang Tenzin, was caught, he confessed that the Tibetan government in exile had hired him to kill Gungthang Tsultrim, and even the 16th Karmapa. One wonders if the Dalai Lama had a hand in that murder too and who knows how many criminal acts have been perpetrated in the name of the Dalai Lama or under the instructions of the Dalai Lama.
The point is, one should NOT be shocked that the Tibetan government are up to this and clearly, neither is the Dalai Lama’s hands clean.
What is really very puzzling is how the good people of Tibet, the honest politicians and the monks who have taken vows can sit idly by and watch as the Dalai Lama and CTA destroy their own nation of people. This matter is not about whether one believes in Shugden or not, it is about whether one will continue the Tibetan leadership to continue in their gangsterism.
All Dorje Shugden practitioners should not reinforce this practice and effort in bringing the ban down. That the Dalai Lama and his coterie are getting reckless is a sign of their panic and fear. They are losing control of the people and their lies are being uncovered very quickly. Now they resort to violence – attack is their form of defence. How shameless and despicable it is to attack a monk let alone a holy and elderly monk who is innocent.
Is this the “government” the Tibetans want to control them? Is this the acts of people who practice the Dharma? What kind of spiritual leader preaches violence and pretends to me a man of peace?
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
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The Dalai Lama clique is still stuck in their primitive brutality of old Tibet where theocratic and dictatorship rule but they call themselves democrats and whose prime minister is a master of human rights. In the fore front they have a face of dharma abiding, peace loving and compassionate people but behind the scene they are brutal and commit hideous crime. They are such hypocrites beyond words.
Tibetans have to endure the harassments of religious suppression, intimidation and violence. It is unbelievable that it is not the Chinese who are preventing religious freedom, it is the exiled Tibetan government in India!
It is indeed utterly shameful they have to resort to inciting an attack on an elderly senior monk for their failure in accomplishing the mission to request Trijang Rinpoche’s return to Gaden and for Dalai’s teachings. They must have seen it coming, a super force in Trijang Rinpoche, a great power in Tibetan Buddhism arising too quickly for their comfort which will become a threat to them.
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I am really disgusted and appalled to read this horrific news for the New Year 2014!!!
Has Tibetan Buddhism degenerate to such a barbaric state where in front you act holy but at the back you kill people who do not agree with you? It's obvious it is a planned attack and even if CTA you say it has nothing to do with you, well just by you keeping silent, is a clear indication you are okay with this!
HH Dalai Lama if you are a pure monk, a Boddhisattva and an emanation of Chenrezig, how can you say that "Shugden" puja is killing you? It's totally nonsense, against the Dharma and what are you insinuating by making such statements except creating more hate and schism and dividing discriminating Shugden practitioners. Obviously there is no kindness and compassion allowed to be given to Shugden practitioners, otherwise why are your pro-Dalai Lama followers doing this? This is a CRIME! It is an attempt MURDER! This is not what Buddhadharma is about... this is creating WAR amongst your people and it's all coming from the words you say! This is injustice and the world will come to know.
Banning anyone's religious beliefs is saying they have no right to religious FREEDOM which is against Human Rights policy. Forget kindness and compassion because it is clear that there is none!
What's NEXT? What else are you & CTA going to incite and ignite? Are you going to harm the Shugden monasteries? Are you rallying people to hurt more Shugden practitioners like in the past? Oh My Buddha... this has got to STOP!
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I listened to Dalai Lama’s speech translated into English and it was mind boggling! I am perplexed that Dalai Lama said that Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen was wrongly recognized, that means the lamas and divinations done were wrong before recognition, which means, all the lineage masters in the past were wrong. I wonder if it also means those masters were wrong in recognizing Dalai Lama. That’s food for thought.
Dalai Lama said he used to practice dhogyal but has since stopped after he did investigations. How can a high being like him be wrong for so many years? Again, it’s food for thought. It leads me to think that Kyabje Dorje chang, HH Pabongka Rinpoche, Tagphu Rinpoche and so on were wrong and only Dalai Lama is right.
Dalai spoke of guru devotion, where is his guru devotion? Sorry. It seems that by saying so, Dalai Lama has thrown guru devotion out of the window. And Dalai Lama has started a new lineage?
I am confused with all these politics resulting in deaths, injuries caused by violence and untold sufferings of innocent people, people who just want to practice real guru devotion and real dharma. I hope all these lead to a positive result. After all, no one lives forever.
A friend told me, “There is nothing to understand as it does not make much sense, so, just be on top of things.” Good advice.
See here in English: Dalai Lama talks about ban on Dorje Shugden, 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi6Dfhlcgwg#ws)
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It is true what WisdomBeing said. The attack occurred in a monastery, a place where monks study and meditate in order to benefit others. The victim is an old monk! Why hurt an old man? Or were they so blinded by anger and ignorance that it didn't matter who they beat up. Their faces were all covered and no one could recognise them, so it would be impossible to make an arrest. Although they can escape jail, they can't escape karma. It is really so sad.
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This news greatly saddened and infuriated me as the world celebrates the beginning of the new year with global citizens and leaders praying for world peace. I have posted this on various related Facebook and news page, and guess what, the response I got is that it is a lie. Why wouldn't the people investigate and solve the issue, instead of just live in denial and blind faith? I was hoping that the new generation of Tibetans are more educated with more exposure would respond differently. :-\
This is not the first time the Tibetan citizens have used violence as they took matters in their own hands, desperate for solutions against the purported “enemy of state” who was endangering the cause of Tibet and His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s long life. I strongly urge the CTA to immediately stop all the propoganda, campaigns and ban against Dorje Shugden and its practitioners.
As Tibetans stand disunited in diaspora and with the 99 years lease for the Indian settlements ending in the near future, wouldn’t it be better for the government to focus on issues such as presevation of Tibetan culture & language due to the re-education that is happening in Tibet, discuss how to effectively execute the Global Solidarity with Tibet Campaign launched in December 2012, look into the environmental destruction in Tibet and so on, instead of focusing on this agenda that further breaks up the Tibetan community and caused continuous civil unrests.
Allowing incidents like the violent attack above and worse, keeping silent about it greatly impact His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s global stature directly, as His Holiness is synonymous and famous for his non-violence approach as a Nobel Peace prize winner. This also mars the image of the Tibetan government and people, especially the new administration under the Sikyong.
As the Tibetans rally about the deteriorating human rights condition in Tibet, perhaps it is time to reflect on whether the standards in the proclamation and adoption of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by the United Nations in 1948 were observed in continuously promoting and executing the ban of the practice of Dorje Shugden, especially the discriminations and harassments faced by the practitioners and their families.
When the CTA marches ahead to fight for Tibetan dignity, Tibetan identity, Tibetan freedom, and seeking equality, please take a few steps back to check in your own backyard if policies such as the ban is in fact in line with what the CTA wishes to achieve in the motherland Tibet.
When shouting about Tibetans suffering from political repression, economic marginalisation, social discrimination, environmental destruction and cultural assimilation in their homeland Tibet, please see how your own Tibetans (Shugden practitioners) are treated as second-class citizens and worst still, enemies in their own homeland.
I plea for the Tibetan Parliament-in-Exile to uphold the charter/ constitution of Tibet, where it states that “All religious denominations are equal before the law” and that every Tibetan shall have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. These religious rights include the freedom to manifest one’s belief, to receive initiation into religious traditions, practice with matters relating to religious commitment, such as preaching and worship of any religion, either alone or in community with others.
A decade ago, Shugden practitioners were violently attacked by a mob of more than 2000 Tibetans in Mundgod (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/what-is-wrong-with-tibetan-society/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/what-is-wrong-with-tibetan-society/)). A decade later, this type of incidents still happen and an old monk is being attacked at his ‘home’ – the household of a respected spiritual leader of the community.
What is wrong with this picture? How can the Chinese or the global community be sure that the CTA is capable of leading the Tibetan community if safety in one’s own home is compromised and cannot be guaranteed? :(
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Tibet supposed to be a country to take up the responsibility to preserved and spread the Dharma.
In fact, they are fighting amongst themselves. Arguing over this unrealistic ban and neglected the freedom of religious and human rights. Is this what the CTA capable of? After all these years, did you project a good image to people about harmonious?
Shame! shame ! Even a 85 years old monk have to be beaten to "proof" to other people what you all will do to Shugden's practitioner. Where's the human rights? You are bullying your own people.
You bring shame not only to Dalai Lama but the Tibetan!
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Om Mani Padme Hum !
Om Mani Padme Hum !
Om Mani Padme Hum !
If His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama (HHDL) is truly the emanation of Chenrezig or Buddha of compassion, PLEASE STOP attacking Dorje Shugden! How could a fully enlightened and compassionate Buddha of Compassion repeatedly caused so much harm to Shugden practitioners??? We cannot comprehend the 'enlightened' actions of HHDL!
After all these years, just when we thought HHDL had softened his stance on Dorje Shugden, he did the opposite and unexpected! He continued to condemn Dorje Shugden so strongly! Why brought up the issue of Dorje Shugden during the Lamrim teaching at Sera May Monastery?
Everyone knows that HHDL's accusations against Dorje Shugden are completely baseless and illogical! Why had you incited hatred, created schisms and disharmony and caused more harm to Shugden practitioners who had not even fully healed from the old wounds!
Shugden practitioners have had enough and are really tired and sick of the idiosyncrasies of HHDL, Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), and their supporters.
Leave the Shugden practitioners alone! Justice must be done to right the wrong NOW! How could the Shugden practitioners tolerate anymore? It is time to retaliate! It is time all Shugden practitioners rise to defend their religious freedom and rights. It is time to stop further crimes from occurring due to the ban on Dorje Shugden.
Damn with the ban on Dorje Shugden! Why let this ban to continue to cause unnecessary harm to Shugden practitioners like the 84-year old Gen Chonze? Legal actions must be taken against HHDL, CTA and their supporters for their unceasing and unlawful acts of causing harm and depriving the constitutional rights of the Tibetans in exile who chose to be loyal to Lord Shugden! The World must know how sadistic HHDL, CTA and their supporters have been toward the Shugden practitioners since the outset of the ban. HHDL, CTA and their supporters must be stopped before they cause even more disrepute to the lineage of Dorje Shugden in particular and Buddhism in general.
Lord Dorje Shugden, please bestow your blessings so that the ban can be lifted now!
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Why is the Dalai Lama inciting sectarian hatred while giving Lamrim teachings?
We must have compassion for him.
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The more Tibetan leadership talks against Shugden and practitioners at every public gathering, the more the Tibetan public will be incited to take harmful actions at every opportunity.
We have received news from the Monasteries in which the CTA has a large budget set aside to counter the growth of the Shugden practice this year 2014. It is amazing a financial budget would be set aside specifically for this purpose yet on the other hand purport freedom of religious practice. Friendly monks at the Sera teachings of HH Dalai Lama called the monks of Shar Gaden and asked them to brace themselves for more 'attacks' from CTA this year. Sure enough it has started with the attack of Trijang Ladrang's Gen Chonze. The monks were shocked how quick CTA acted and how violently. They didn't expect violence again as the world's radar is on CTA.
Silence from the Tibetan leadership on this subject of Shugden would be golden for peace and eventual reconciliation.
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Why is the Dalai Lama inciting sectarian hatred while giving Lamrim teachings?
We must have compassion for him.
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I am very sad to hear about the harm that has been done to Gen Chonze. How could this be done to an old monk that has done no wrong except for having different religious opinion? In fact, he is following the teaching that was passed down from his lineage lamas who are also the lineage lama of HH Dalai Lama such as HH Trijang Rinpoche, HH Pabongka Rinpoche. Could the entire high lineage lama wrong too?
Besides, the 10th Panchen Lama also writes prayer to Dorje Shugden. How could he be wrong too? (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/history/10th-panchen-lama-writes-prayer-to-dorje-shugden/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/history/10th-panchen-lama-writes-prayer-to-dorje-shugden/))
In addition, one of Buddhism core values is compassion. Violence is definitely not the actions that a Buddhist should do. Please stop the violence CTA!
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Posted by Thupten Lhundrup ???? (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/history/10th-panchen-lama-writes-prayer-to-dorje-shugden/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/history/10th-panchen-lama-writes-prayer-to-dorje-shugden/))
January 2, 2014
I have received a phone call from a friend in Sera saying there will be a huge uproar this time during the Jangchub Lamrim Teachings. Apparently the CTA is under pressure from the Dalai Lama to do something about his “displeasure” of Trijang Rinpoche not coming for the teachings.
a huge chunk of funds is set aside for the CTA to use for whatever their upcoming activities to ensure they get their boss’ message across. I didn’t think this would be one of it and so soon! Shar Gadenpas and Serpompas, please be on high alert. It is no more safe out there.
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I agree with the article that, directly or indirectly, the open blaming of Dorje Shugden by HH Dalai Lama has its effect, and His government, wanting to please the boss, inflict violence to monks. It is such shame act, much more shame as it come from a government where the leader openly talks about world peace :(
I have heard from the monks that violence within the community is nothing new. I really got shocked when I first hear it because I would think that monastery is a place of calm and peace to practice Dharma.
As the spiritual leader, HH Dalai Lama should talk more on Dharma, rather than such open blaming, because it will incite hatred in the government and divide the people even further.
I send my prayers to this old monk, and may violence be stopped asap!
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This is NOT about DORJE SHUGDEN.
This is not about the Dalai Lama.
This is not about the exiled Tibetan community and its leadership.
This is about stopping terrorism right where it begins.
And it begins with acts such as this attack.
Terrorism is a set of actions performed to instill terror within a group of people.
This attack is an act of terror, performed to instil terror within a group of people.
This act is unacceptable and must be condemned by EVERYONE and every PARTY.
The parties that are creating the terrain for such acts must be condemned.
The parties that are turning a blind eye on it also have a responsibility.
This is not an internal affair, this is about freedom, freedom from terror.
This concerns all of us that care for freedom from terror.
We all can do something by voicing our condemnation of such acts of violence!
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The first thing that came to mind is: how could any civilized person attack an unarmed, elderly individual who dedicated his life to serve the Dharma?! It is appalling, disgusting, unnerving and inhuman.
Based on track record and result from past action, it is logical to deduce that the CTA is behind this event as they have been consistently the sole organization propagating anti-Shugden movements all along. However, this time round, they really brought themselves up a notch on the scale of evil.
The monastery is supposed to be a sacred space where people visit and go to for refuge for peace and spiritual growth. This life-risking event jeopardizes the holiness of monasteries and, maybe even other religious sites. Imagine the magnitude of negative karma the CTA is creating with this attack. Their inability to see a bigger picture and realize how their short-sightedness can negatively impact the entire world of Buddhism make them unfit administrators, what more leaders to a community in exile.
All these recent blunders of the CTA is regressing the works of HH the 14th Dalai Lama and also reduces the credibility of His Holiness: how could such a great personality develop a group of such low morality who strategizes dangerously.
It would be wise for the CTA to immediately stop these harmful acts. I believe that creating awareness of the world through this detailed article is one method that can discourage the CTA.
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One would think that a country and government in exile will understand the angst and agony of being deprived the right to be free. To launch an attack on Shugden practitioners defy and breach every single laws of humanity from the right to religious freedom to the freedom of choice. Is the world so blind to not see the carnivorous desires of the CTA to devour the governance of Tibet, snatching it directly from the lamas at the same time crushing a tradition so pure and meaningful that is not only worth preserving but perpetuating? Putting aside the issue of cultural preservation, which to some may not have any direct significance, harming and inflicting an innocent human who is quietly practicing his religion of choice, is despicable.
We must practice what we preach, Mr. Dalai Lama. >:(
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The destruction of Buddhadharma is not caused from outer forces... but it will be destroyed from within. This is happening now, before our very eyes.
Dorje Shugden is the protector of Losang Drakpa's lineage and the very fact that his practice is being suppressed from within, shows the destruction of the dharma from within.
When Sangha members transgress each other, when lay/ordained people attack each other... when there is no harmony within the Sangha... these are all symptoms of the degeneration of the Dharma.
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To think that an old monk happily going about his morning ritual has to go through this attack is beyond words.
Why would anyone want to hurt someone who has not inflicted any harm on you? Were the attackers blindly following instructions? What do they hope to achieve? Instill fear? Fear of what, who? Why come in the dark of the morning, all covered up?
Apparently the cold attack on an innocent old man was uncalled for. If you have an issue that needs to be heard, bring it up to the correct/proper authority. Do not use force.
Why are you not doing this the true Buddhist humane way, without violence?
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CTA will not be able to contain the ban much longer and this is the reason why they are desperate trying to re-enforce the ban through violence. The violence on Gen Chonze, an old monk by 5 masked men is totally cowardly and revengeful.
They should be uniting the Tibetan instead of tearing them apart through prosecution of a legitimate and authentic practice. Why lose the focus and the foresight? After all the Chinese and Panchen Lama will identify the 15th Dalai Lama’s reincarnation in Tibet and he will be trained by the Panchen Lama. The Panchen Lama is a strong Shudenpa and the Dalai Lama will practise Dorje Shugden again in his 15th reincarnation. CTA must understand they can never succeed in the ban.
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By attacking an elderly old monk who is harmless and devoted to his practice shows cowardly their actions are.It is obvious that they are furious that Trijang Rinpoche refused to attend Dalai Lama Lam Rim teachings at Sera,but why take it out on innocent people?
May Gen.Ghonze recover swiftly and live to see the ban lifted!
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Why is the Dalai Lama inciting sectarian hatred while giving Lamrim teachings?
We must have compassion for him.
I am asking exactly the same question. Why? But I know there is no point in knowing why. HHDL has his own reasons and agenda. Irrespective of what and how I feel, there is no point in blaming HHDL for the violent attack on Gen Chonze. I will only want to do my part in lifting of the DS ban by contributing as much as I can on this forum or on any social website dedicated to the lifting of the ban and promoting religious freedom for all Tibetans and the world.
And I want to do this through compassion, tolerance, understanding and love, for we as DS practitioners are peace loving and our only wish is to promote Dharma for the benefit of all sentient beings.
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Seriously, how can violence resolve any problems? This sounds like CTA is trying to create war. Having a world renown religious figure who won a NOBEL PEACE prize award , the very people that supports him, that have him as a religious head, does everything but to create peace amongst their own. Amazing. And with His Holiness giving more anti-DS speeches, He is indirectly creating schism within the sangha, and the community at large. So much for being an icon for peace when the very people within your exiled community are not living in peace because of what you have started.
Why would 5 men attack an 86 year old monk. If they wanted to take Gen Chonze's life, they could have easily, but instead, they just inflicted so much pain on Gen-la. On top of that, you know that the police won't do anything so it's really up to us within the Shugden community to help one another and do all we can to bring the ban down. We all have to highlight this article to show the unjust treatment that Shugden practitioners get on top of being ostracised.
And now you will set aside a budget for more propaganda against DS practise and its practitioners. Religious freedom, and freedom of choice right out the window for you. Compassion and wisdom, the two main practises and path to achieving enlightenment right out the window for you. Everything that HHDL has taught on boddhicitta, compassion, middle way, lamrim, does not gel because here on one hand you are preaching the methods that Lord Buddha taught to gaining enlightenment and on the other hand, here you are hurting others. So what's the point of attending teachings and learning from HHDL , who when continues to give anti-ds speeches, increases the possibility of Shugden practitioners to getting hurt and maybe even killed.
CTA, you got to stop. HHDL, you got to remove this unjust and illogical ban because it is so evident that there are so many contradictions and unjust reasoning to having the ban in the first place.
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This is very disturbing… how can anyone hurt an old man that didn’t do any harm to other people? Even if he practices something you disagree on.
This incident is unmistakably done to retaliate against HH Trinjang Rinpoche’s refusal to submit to HH Dalai Lama and CTA’s demand to stop Dorje Shugden’s practice.
It shows that CTA is feeling the heat from HH Dalai Lama’s camp. It surely does, by merely looking at the ever rising popularity of HH Trinjang Rinpoche and the growing of Dorje Shugden’s practitioners, one already can see that CTA is loosing grip of its own Tibetans and its ‘fight’ with China authority. Then again, it is still wrong to put this old monk through all this pains.
The ban is really unnecessary and didn’t do any justice to anyone. It only generate hatred, which is the total opposite of what Buddha taught.
Down with ban!
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I'm sure this is a topic that has been talked to death here. From what I have read, this violence has started way back when the ban first started. The irony of it is that Tibet and CTA has been asking for international intervention against the invasion of Tibet and even now the deteriorating situation in Tibet by the Chinese government but on the other hand outside of Tibet, the CTA is instigating violence in the name of HHTDL against DS practitioners.
CTA wanted to raise Tibet issue to the international community citing the world general stand in human rights. On the other hand, their actions against DS practitioners specially violence would bring the attention of the international community towards CTA acts against human rights. This is the shameful hypocrisy of CTA.
The recent attack case on Gen Chonze is absolutely atrocious and appalling. With this kind of actions from CTA, there is no way CTA can gain any international support for any of their agendas.
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I am just outraged! How could they! The CTA is risking everything and turning this into a witch hunt all over again. If they are not careful, this will destroy the Dalai Lama’s name and risk turning this into a religious war that would be harmful for the Dalai Lama himself. If they have any sense, they would cease all violence and find for a more peaceful solution instead.
I also think that CTA is desperate and do not know how else to cease the growth and spread of Dorje Shugden's practice. It seems that too much information is available to the masses these days via this website and facebook. I am guessing their are doing their very best to halt Dorje Shugden but as more brainless attempts are made, it will only serve to make Dorje Shugden lamas and practitioners the martyr to the unbiased eye. Thus, I think it will only accelerate the crumbling of the Dorje Shugden by sheer force of awareness and opposition of their unfounded actions.
Therefore, we must bring awareness of everything to the people and let people judge for themselves.
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I am asking this question here "with no disrespect to the Dalai Lama and the CTA representation of the Tibetan people - why does the Dalai Lama who is known as Chenrezig, peaceful and compassionate would associate himself with the CTA and their associates that incite VIOLENCE against Dorje Shugden's followers and the Dorje Shugden sangha community?"
How does the Dalai Lama or the CTA get away with answering such question these violence? Are they going to make another excuse to cover up their error or mistakes again over and over again? Are the CTA going to continue to lie to the world about Dorje Shugden?
We are peaceful Buddhist and we certainly will not take likely to any kind of violent attack against anyone. So please, the CTA - let us make world peace together with Dorje Shugden.
As I reflect on the recent report of NGOs representation in the United Nations - there were far too few representations from the Buddhist faith. Why are we, Buddhist of the same family fight against each other? This is NO way to bring peace. We must bring forth the Buddhist faith in the United Nations to make Buddhists in all the world proud.
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This is utterly disgusting!!! How can a Government/ Administration incite violence against their own people. If they are really unhappy with Trijang Rinpoche for not attending the teachings by the Dalai Lama, they can use other peaceful methods rather than hurting an old monk.
True to the article, it is really a retaliation done by the CTA to show their unhappiness with Trijang Rinpoche. And also a warning to others that if they do not follow or listen to what the CTA says, then bad consequences will follow. It is such a barbaric act in this century where all the Dalai Lama promotes all over the world is compassion and peace!!!
CTA, please do not disgrace the Dalai Lama like that!
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What a shame to labelled themselves a Buddhists. Whichever party who did this shameful act, personally i think there are not qualify to call themselves as a Buddhists or even human being. How can you be chanting OM MANI PADME HUM, be compassionate but in another hand you were knocking on Trijang's Rinpoche's Ladrang, Yes, Trijang Rinpoche's Ladrang in Shar Gaden. Trijang Rinpoche is one of the linage holder of Gelug Sect, a true master and Lama. And you all started attacking one of his student. Imagine i come to your house and started banging on your door and attacked one of your family member. And this is Trijang Rinpoche's house. This is way too much and is an act of terrorist!!! And you call your self a Buddhist...Why, are we supposed to practise compassion and respect each other?
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This is really unbelievable and very disturbing! CTA again act inhumanly and really give a very bad image to the Dalai Lama. Using violence for spirituality, really doesn’t equate anything Dharma teaching from the Dalai Lama at all. Once hand giving a lengthy speech against Lord Shugden practices and on the other hand CTA act insanely attacking a respectful monk who has been servicing the Dalai Lama's teacher (previous life) great master Trijang Rinpoche.
CTA who’s again using violence which is the only barbaric method that they know to govern their people obvious shown how they fail to hold their country not to say how to improve the situation but it’s really fail as in basic human value.
Frankly speak if the pujas by Lord Shugden will really kill the Dalai Lama as Dalai Lama claimed, Dalai Lama would have dead by now as the pujas have been done for so many years and by so many monastery. Yet Dalai Lama still able to give his Lamrim talks at Sera Monastery recently. Look carefully by against the cruel government CTA for the ban of the Lord Shugden pratices where until today there is still no basis to support the claim of harming the Dalai Lama causes so many people in suffering and this is obvious and can witness with our own eyes!
The world should know how this barbaric government runs their show and it definitely will not give any good impression to the Dalai Lama from the view of the world.
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This is such a shameful incident. The five men who attacked Gen Chonze are really heartless. What compassion were they practicing? Looks like they are the bigger demon worshipers than the people whom they are accusing. But they are not to be blamed for they are obviously down right dim and have no minds of their own. The speech by His Holiness Dalai Lama have incited the CTA to carry out this brutal attack on a harmless, frail old monk.
I am thankful that Gen Chonze is recovering well. May Gen Chonze's pains and stitches open up the eyes of many people to the plight of all those suffering because of this illegal ban imposed by CTA on Shugden practitioners. Hopefully, the sponsors and supporters of CTA get a clearer picture of where their cash and kind are being channeled to.
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OMB... This is not Buddhism but downright attributes of hooliganism. How can people on the banner of spiritual practice cause harm onto others, especially one of such defenselessness? Where is the compassion? Where is the act of kindness... all i see is hatred and we all know where that comes from and leads to... not a good place. Enough of this nonsensical violence already. We have to PUT A STOP TO THIS HURTFUL BAN!!!!
This is not religious freedom! This is just plain and simple a human rights violation in any sense of the word. To top it off, its physical and mental abuse and invasion of private property... so many violations for what the CTA deems to be done in the name of spiritual liberties! Whole load of horse shit if you ask me. It is just pure and simple anger and hatred which has NO place in Buddhism and the modern world in general. We can STOP THIS. Make this story go viral and get the attention of the world and then we will see who stands for such acts of cowardice and malice!
SHAMEFUL, DISGUSTING AND DOWNRIGHT COWARDLY!
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This is horrific and shocking to the core. To think that these men could attack such an elderly person in this way, let alone a monk is truly disgusting. This is a man who has spent the greater part of his life practicing the Dharma, with the Mahayana motivation of achieving enlightenment for others, but gets treated in this abhorrent manner. The CTA should be ashamed of themselves for inciting this through their inappropriate and schismatic propaganda!!!
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This is not something new and the CTA has been known to employ violent and criminal means to achieve their goals and to dispose of opposition. We are outraged that anyone could attack an elderly monk and we see that the threats are real. This is precisely what a young Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche faced when the ban first started and the Dalai Lama gave him an ultimatum to abandon the Protector practice. There have been many accounts of how serious the threats to Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche were such that monks had to stand guard 24/7 until the young tulku as safely out of India.
It is not surprising that we hear no news from the Dalai Lama condemning such attacks nor do we hear the CTA doing anything to catch the perpetrators. Some people have suggested that perhaps the Shartse Khenpo's invitation for Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche to return to India was an attempt to lure into a trap and to dispose of him. Judging from the CTA's history, I would not not rule that out.
Here is another account where the CTA has been implicated in the death of another DS lama, Geshe Yesshe Wangchuk:
In 1997, he was killed in a car accident in Kongpo which was allegedly engineered by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA). On the day of the accident, Geshe Yeshe Wangchuk had to travel. Just before departing, the Geshe appeared to have a premonition. Normally, his attendants would accompany him when he traveled, but this time, he told them to stay behind and he went alone. He was the sole passenger in the car with the driver and midway through the journey, the car careened off a cliff. Just before the car hit the bottom, the driver escaped by jumping out of the car.
The Geshe was said to have come out of the wreckage and sat on the ground outside the car, where he entered clear light. Several lamas from his monastery came to the area of the accident and did pujas around him. As a sign of his high attainments, he remained in clear light meditation (Tugdam) for around eight days after the accident. Later, the Chinese police managed to track down and arrest the driver but he denied all accusations of foul play.
While it was inconclusive who actually assassinated Geshe Wangchuk, most people believed that the CTA was behind the incident. It is not surprising because all Dorje Shugden lamas suffer from constant death threats issued by supporters of the Dalai Lama because of the Dorje Shugden ban. Within the Tibetan community in India, the CTA is well known to deliberately publicize the whereabouts and identities of Dorje Shugden lamas that, implicitly encouraging assassination attempts.
Source: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/geshe-yeshe-wangchuks-car-accident/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/geshe-yeshe-wangchuks-car-accident/)
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why would CTA be so cruel to initiate such harm to even Sangha members?? really, i find it very disgusting to even hear about! Why CTA would want to harm it's own people? So called protecting the interest of Tibet's independence and freedom to its people... why they just had to do this? Where is Dalai Lama, where is Lobsang Sangye? where are justice for the Shugden practitioners??? Why for believing in what they believe in can be so hard to accept for others? Why would monks who clearly cannot and will not pose a threat will be harmed in such manner??
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How can CTA do this to a senior Monk like Gen Chonze ? and you guys still considered yourself as a Buddhist ? You guys better think twice about this seriously !!! Really sad and I just don't understand !!!
Let us all pray for Gen Chonze and wish he will get well soon.
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The funny thing about this incident is, the anti-ds people kept saying that ds.com is reporting something that is untrue and want to create disharmony...
I believe, only the truly ignorant will not be able to see through this incident as an act from the CTA, and even if it was indirectly related to the CTA due to them planting subliminal messages in the locals, it still make them an accomplice to this unfortunate incident.
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The CTA banished the Shugden practitioners from the monastery and the community. It was decreed that no people should involve and having anything to do with Shugden practitioners anymore. Why are these people going up to the old monk and injuring him? Are you sending the message this good monk who practicing Dharma doing good will suffer the consequences? While those who do nothing or go against Shugden practitioners with violence are better people? This is total nonsense!!
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Horrifying and disgusting! CTA has really gone too far with the ban. And this is supposed to be a ruling body consisting of Buddhists whose main practice is compassion. It makes me so angry and outraged that such a violent act is inflicted upon an old monk. From whatever angle you look from, CTA is DEFINITELY the culprit. Who would inflict such harm on an old monk who has lived in a monastery all his life, no money, only 'occupation' is to serve his teacher, upholds his vows. You can definitely rule out robbery because no robber would create so much noise banging the metal gate as that would attract attention from passerby and neighbours. You can rule out enemy for obvious reasons stated above. That leave the only option left: CTA!!!!!
Please CTA, pick someone your size to fight. No, definitely not an innocent old monk. No wonder you can't gain any international respect. You preach compassion, yet you behave most than a mafia. At least mafias don't hurt their own brothers. If I were you CTA, please don't hang the photo of Mahatma Gandhi in your offices. Mahatma Gandhi liberated the whole of India without dropping a blood. He walked the talk, he was a shining example and he sacrificed. You not only suppress your own people, you physically hurt them too. Shame on you. I am totally outraged. And I am sure other government will hear about this news too soon and feel the same. Remember the wisdom words of Mahatma Gandhi: an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. If you believe in karma, you will understand what you are heading for in your next life.
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It is due to the collective karma of the CTA, most Tibetan including the "sangha" that His Holiness has to lie about the Protector. Even lying about Tulku Dragpa Gyaeltsen was wrongly recognized. If so then the Guru of the Great Fifth Dalai Lama was also wrong. Just need some small intelligence to see true this. It is disturbing for the Dalai Lama to lie. It put the 3 Jewels in the wrong place and threatens the validity of Buddha's entire teachings. What a shame that!
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i realised that when one thing is said to be wrong, everything else is also wrong... the Dalai Lama's ban on Dorje Shugden meant that the Dalai Lama's Guru was wrong. If the Dalai Lama's Guru was wrong, then all the teachings and practices passed by that Guru was also wrong. And all those other Lamas who received teachings from any Dorje Shugden lama are also wrong. And thus, since the majority of the Gelugpa practitioners are/were also Dorje Shugden practitioners, they are/were all wrong too. So the Dalai Lama's teachings are wrong too... and if the Dalai Lama is wrong, how can the ban be right?
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Well, we all agree that the senseless attack was uncalled for. So what if you beat an elderly monk, cut him and drew blood -- you think this will stop people from accepting Dorje Shugden as their Protector, and that they will ultimately stop this practice?
Think again -- you may have just created a wave for the people to realise that anti-Shugden folks are violent, fierce and despicable.
I have 5 words for you ---- PICK SOMEONE YOUR OWN SIZE!
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'Forced' religious conversion is wrong, says Dalai Lama
Bangalore, Jan 5, 2014, DHNS:
Nobel laureate, the 14th Dalai Lama, greets UIDAI chairperson Nandan Nilekani at a principals' conference in Bangalore on Sunday. DH Photo
The 14th Dalai Lama has disapproved of “forced” religious conversion. Religious organisations ought to work extensively in rural villages and “expect nothing” (in return), he said here on Sunday.
“Christians have helped the society in education and health. But they are also carrying the message of conversion, which is wrong. The Ramakrishna organisations are working extensively in rural areas, which most people neglect. They do not expect anything. Such should be the attitude,” he said at the inauguration of the 92nd principals’ conference organised by the Association of Heads of Anglo-Indian Schools in India.
The Dalai Lama disapprove and do not advocate forced religious conversion. Why does this not apply to the Dorje Shugden practice? Why did the Dalai Lama have double standards on Shugden practitioners and had to incite violence? This is totally unacceptable and violates human rights and peace which is the image he projects to the world.
It is utterly sickening to read about the attack on Gen Gonze. Please stop the violence and prosecution!
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Yes, it was a despicable act of cowardice and violence. However, what's even more tragic is that very few people particularly the Tibetans are willing to do more about this. They would not talk about it or even bring awareness to these acts of violence. The problem is that nobody knows and very few people bring awareness to these acts. I guess people are unwilling to stick their necks out.
It is hard for foreigners like me to go and talk about Tibetan affairs when the Tibetans are unwilling to do more to expose these acts. We are very fortunate for this website and it would be great if even more Tibetans release more information of the happenings within the community especially when such despicable acts are perpetrated. Unlike the earlier days of the ban, there is now more spotlight and publicity occurring whenever such acts are perpetrated in the community. We should all do our part to expose it and share it with the world so more and more people are aware of the plight of Dorje Shugden practitioners within the community. Awareness would only serve to pressure and bring the ban down! Down with the ban!
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I must agree with Big Uncle. It truly is disappointing that the Tibetans themselves are so unwilling to make a change... and those that actually are brave enough to keep the practice either do so quietly or move to a different country... and those that actually stand up for their rights don't receive sufficient support that the end up being in a very difficult position.
But what can you expect from a community that just takes the Dalai Lama's words at face value without checking or even identifying the flaw in the ban? Monkey see, monkey do... they just don't have the level of intelligence that require them to speak up or think differently. Of course there are those that can spot the wrong in the ban, and those people are the ones that still remain DS practitioners.
Although I would love it if more DS practitioners of Tibetan origin would fight more to lift the ban... but perhaps they see a larger picture in it. After all, despite how it looks like separatism is happening, HHDL is truly the one person that's holding the Tibetan community together. Perhaps the reason why the DS practitioners are laying low and not making a 'fuss' despite all the injustice they've experienced is due to the fact that they still have high respect and value HHDL's effort in bringing the Tibetans (whenever that might be...)
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This is so disgusting! Five men attacking an 86 year old monk! This senseless attack is uncalled for! It is indeed shameful that the CTA have resorted to attack an elderly monk to retaliate on Trijang Rinpoche’s refusal to attend HHDL teachings.
CTA leave the DS practitioners alone! Every human being has the right to practice what they believed in so why caused harm and create so much violence for DS practitioners?
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Although I would love it if more DS practitioners of Tibetan origin would fight more to lift the ban... but perhaps they see a larger picture in it.
The “larger picture” Tibetans see is only the (understandable) fear of the ruthless theocrat owning their lives, the evil dalai. Tibetans come from a medieval obscurantist society, and know perfectly that challenging the ruling theocrat may cost their lives and more. Therefore, this ban against human freedom will be lifted the day Tibetans wake up and decide to dispatch the evil theocrat to the place where he belongs, to wit, the garbage bin of history.
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The Dalai Lama and his associates have two faces, by day they are holy and respectable men. By night they are mafia gangsters and will resort to violence for the suppression of one deity protector in the Tibetan community in exile.
They know they cannot sustain the ban much longer. Violence will be their “theme” in their attempt to enforce the ban. Apparently, they do not believe in karma although they are learned men and preached about karma.
Need we remind them on “The Wheel of Sharp Weapons”?
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How can anyone do this to the old monk? And worst to a renown monk who has served his lama, Trijang Rinpoche sincerely and with so much devotion. Don't the CTA know that this will cause an uproar to a portion of Gelug practitioner, don't they even realise that this will cause them to loose support from all around??
I have totally lost all respect for CTA and now, I am more adamant in spreading Shugden practice far and wide.
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The CTA is supposed to be taking care of its own people's welfare and well being instead of harming them. How can they impose religion preference on its people? Even if so, why would they be harming and ill treating the Dorje Shugden practitioners? CTA should instead focus on how to regain it's independence from China or at least deal with the worrying self immolations of precious human life across the region. End violence against Dorje Shugden practitioners please!!!
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The CTA is supposed to be taking care of its own people's welfare and well being instead of harming them. How can they impose religion preference on its people? Even if so, why would they be harming and ill treating the Dorje Shugden practitioners? CTA should instead focus on how to regain it's independence from China or at least deal with the worrying self immolations of precious human life across the region. End violence against Dorje Shugden practitioners please!!!
The CTA has made a career out of blaming others for their abysmal failures, namely China and Dorje Shugden practitioners. The way the Tibetan government in exile treats Shugden people gives you a pretty good idea of how old Tibet used to be. The majority of the Tibetan people were not regarded as citizens or even subjects of a monarch to care for and protect. They were merely chattels, there to be used.
In that regard, the Tibetan people are better off under Chinese rule. I do not condone the Chinese annexation of Tibet nor its harsh policies towards Tibetans but in truth, just looking at how the CTA can so easily discriminate against their own people based on religion, I have to say that Tibetans are truly better off in the long run. It would appear to me that the Tibetan leaders in power today lack genuine interest in being a liberal government and seem more interested in retaining their old feudalistic ways.
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If the CTA dares to incite violence against Shugden practitioners, perhaps it is because the Dalai Lama himself is doing just that. Here in a speech that the Dalai Lama gave in Sera Monastery in December 2013, it is very clear that he is provoking sentiments against Dorje Shugden worshippers. At the same time, the CTA has been heard telling Tibetans that they should do more [harm] against those who oppose the Dalai Lama as a way to protect him.
For the Dalai Lama to be fanning hate so long after he imposed the religion ban may very well be an indication that his campaign is loosing steam and the Tibetan people are seeing through this ruse. See for yourself in the following video from 42:16 -
http://youtu.be/yi6Dfhlcgwg?t=42m15s (http://youtu.be/yi6Dfhlcgwg?t=42m15s)
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These lunatics ought to be behind bars for their violent and insane action. I hope these culprits will be apprehended soon.
The rest of the Shugdenpas must keep safe for we do not know what will ensue in their lunacy. We must spread words of caution to the Tibetan Shugden community and inform the police to keep vigilance.
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Violence is never the solutions for any problem. How many Dorje Shudgen (DS) pratitioners can CTA kill or harm to stop DS practice? The more the CTA do this, the stronger the DS supporters going to be and CTA is slowly loosing their support in TIbet too. Who would want an authority that use violence to resolve problems? I hope CTA can stop harming the old and defenceless people. Be kind to others and be kind to yourself.
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Violence is never the solutions for any problem. How many Dorje Shudgen (DS) pratitioners can CTA kill or harm to stop DS practice? The more the CTA do this, the stronger the DS supporters going to be and CTA is slowly loosing their support in TIbet too. Who would want an authority that use violence to resolve problems? I hope CTA can stop harming the old and defenceless people. Be kind to others and be kind to yourself.
And indeed I would like to add this:
All the heads of states, all other VIP government representatives, all movie stars and other celebrities that have supported the Dalai Lama, even simply by posing with him for a picture around a cup of tea, all of them will now think twice about doing so!
Some may even regret having a picture of them together with the Dalai Lama and are getting prepared to say "but I did not know"!
Well... it's all over the internet, how could you not know?
The ban installed by the Dalai Lama and the repression that the CTA has supported only find equivalents in a dictatorship regime.
The clearer this become to all the "outsiders", the less likely will they regard the "Dorje Shugden affair" as an internal affair.
When monks get attacked, when a whole population is ostracized and denigrated, it is no more something that they would disregard, and their support to the Dalai Lama will be less and less.
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We think of Buddhism as a peaceful religion. But in some parts of Asia, Buddhists are engaged in violent conflicts targeting their own country men. "Militant Buddhism" may sound like an oxymoron, but for Shugdenpas who have lost homes, dignity and loved ones, there is no contradiction. The whole world has to know about this.
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Well it has been more than 3 weeks that this innocent old monk was beaten up. I heard from the grapevine that the plot was to kill him if not for the dogs barking! At this point of writting, I checked on Dorje Shugden Facebook page that 8,979 people have either posted comments, shared or acknowledged the post by clicking 'Like'. That is almost NINE THOUSAND PEOPLE who know about this and condemns the unjust attack. Let alone the thousands of monks and lay people. The whole world is watching. I wonder if CTA will lay low for a few months before they repeat their dictatorial attack on more innocent parties??
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Indeed, many people have known about the cruel act of CTA to harm the Dorje Shugden practitioner. I am not sure if CTA will lay low for a while or not. However, we should keep spreading the news on this and how unfair and injustice the ban on Dorje Shugden. We need to continue to create more awareness of this ban, provide more information and facts to the world so that one day, the ban can be lifted so that the Dorje Shugden practitioners can enjoy their human rights and religion freedom. It will also help more people to get the blessings and protections from Dorje Shugden and make this world a better place!
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This statement by the Dalai Lama has been reported by the Economic Times. My question here to the Dalai Lama:
Do you really mean what you had said Your Holiness? How about extending the same right to dialogues with Shugdenpas and not to incite violence in your community; request CTA not to create violence and not to distort the history of Dorje Shugden. Shugdenpas have similar rights as the rest of the world please.
Dalai Lama Calls for Dialogues to Solve Problems of Violence
2 February 2014
GUWAHATI: Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama today called for dialogues with a sense of concern at all levels for solving the problems of violence in the world. "Just saying we want peace is not enough. But the causes of violence should be solved through dialogue.
Try to solve local problems keeping in mind solutions to global problems", the Dalai Lama said while delivering the First LBS Founders' Commemorative Lecture on 'A Human Approach to Peace and the Individual' here.
"If local problems are not solved keeping in mind solutions to global problems, the violence will erupt. The use of force will get unexpected consequences. Use of force today is outdated", he told a huge gathering of Tibetan refugees and others at the Nehru Stadium.
Referring to conflicts and wars across the world, the Tibetan spiritual leader said, "the motivation for wars may be good but when the method is not good they have unexpected consequences. That is why we must educate people on non-violence at all level".
"Non-violence method, however, cannot have one sided victory and one sided defeat. Then confrontation will come leading to violence", he pointed out.
Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/29769731.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst. (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/29769731.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst.)
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HH Dalai Lama is teaching for peace and non-violence. However some of his followers especially the CTA are not following the core Buddhism values that HH Dalai Lama is teaching. They only take HH Dalai Lama’s instruction literally on not practicing Dorje Shugden and CTA use all ways to stop others people for practicing Dorje Shugden, including violence. Cannot believe that a government, especially a so called “Buddhist government” that should promote loving and compassion are causing harm to some of its people! What a shame!
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This statement by the Dalai Lama has been reported by the Economic Times. My question here to the Dalai Lama:
Do you really mean what you had said Your Holiness? How about extending the same right to dialogues with Shugdenpas and not to incite violence in your community; request CTA not to create violence and not to distort the history of Dorje Shugden. Shugdenpas have similar rights as the rest of the world please.
Dalai Lama Calls for Dialogues to Solve Problems of Violence
2 February 2014
GUWAHATI: Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama today called for dialogues with a sense of concern at all levels for solving the problems of violence in the world. "Just saying we want peace is not enough. But the causes of violence should be solved through dialogue.
Try to solve local problems keeping in mind solutions to global problems", the Dalai Lama said while delivering the First LBS Founders' Commemorative Lecture on 'A Human Approach to Peace and the Individual' here.
"If local problems are not solved keeping in mind solutions to global problems, the violence will erupt. The use of force will get unexpected consequences. Use of force today is outdated", he told a huge gathering of Tibetan refugees and others at the Nehru Stadium.
Referring to conflicts and wars across the world, the Tibetan spiritual leader said, "the motivation for wars may be good but when the method is not good they have unexpected consequences. That is why we must educate people on non-violence at all level".
"Non-violence method, however, cannot have one sided victory and one sided defeat. Then confrontation will come leading to violence", he pointed out.
Read more at:
[url]http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/29769731.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst.[/url] ([url]http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/29769731.cms?&utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst.[/url])
Good question Icy!
"Non-violence method, however, cannot have one sided victory and one sided defeat. Then confrontation will come leading to violence", he pointed out.
I wished Tibetans would also pay attention to what His Holiness is advising here... and not be selective and choose to only apply what they like. If they did, then they would not harm Shugden practitioners and create a bad reputation for their Spiritual Leader, putting His Holiness words to shame and dragging Buddhism down to the mud by their violent acts.
If only they would truly practice every single advice given by His Holiness than there would be no violence, no discrimination, no harming and causing difficulties for Shugden practitioners. Even Shugden children are being affected because they are not allowed to go to public schools and mixed with non-Shugden kids. If this is not discrimination and an breach of religious freedom, then what would you call this in the 21st century?
We beg His Holiness to at least advice the fanaticals pro-Dalai Lama and CTAs to not harm others, even if they are of a different faith and allow public welfare to shared by all Tibetans with no discrimination! Harmony instead of Hatred should be cultivated, not violence, just like His Holiness speech!
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Dalai Lama urges Indians to adopt Mahatma Gandhi's concept of non-violence. CTA you should heed this advice by the Dalai Lama.
Dharamsala, Jan.31 (ANI): Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, has called on Indians to implement the principles of non-violence espoused by Mahatma Gandhi, Father of the Nation.
The Dalai Lama left Dharamsala on Thursday for his week-long visit to northeast India, where he will participate in an inter-faith conclave in northeast Assam.
The Dalai Lama said: "I always feel everyone who have admiration for Mahatma Gandhiji, the proper way to remember him is we must implement his 'Ahimsa' (non-violence) concept and also I think every Indian should feel the ahimsa is not only Mahatma Gandhi's creation but over, I think, at least two-three thousand years that's India's tradition."
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HH Dalai Lama is teaching for peace and non-violence
Rather, the evil dalai is just using words such as ”peace” and ”non-violence” as a convenient cover for his actual teaching, which is religious intolerance, witch hunting, social segregation, self-immolating, racist murdering, defaming and deriding one's own guru, and so forth.
If only they would truly practice every single advice given by His Holiness than there would be no violence, no discrimination, no harming and causing difficulties for Shugden practitioners.
Rather the opposite, since many Tibetans and Westerners faithfully and truly practice every single advice of the evil entity (not their words, but their meaning), there is violence, discrimination, harming and causing difficulties for Shugden practitioners -- plus self-immolations, bloody racist riots, and so forth.
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The CTA calls people who practice Dorje Shugden devil worshippers, but based on what the people from the CTA do on a day to day basis it is obvious that they are the demon worshippers. As far as I know people who practice Dorje Shugden are quite peaceful and i have not heard about any Shugden people creating violence.
The violence and cruelty that the CTA does frequently is just not Buddhist, the Buddha told us to love our enemies and to conquer them with kindness and compassion. Even if Dorje Shugden was really a spirit the CTA should try to use peaceful and not violent ways to spread the message.
Up until today the CTA has yet to show any show any solid proof that Dorje Shugden is a spirit, even though they don't have any concrete evidence they still say bad things about Dorje Shugden.
I really hope that the ban will come down soon without any further violence.
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CTA creates violence again
It's always easier to blame others than ourselves.
Our teacher the Buddha and all the authentic gurus without an exception said that one is fully responsible for one's own suffering.
Therefore, this applies to Shugdenpas as well.
Some Shugenpas suffer because of their ignorant attachment to the evil dalie lame.
Wanting to save the evil dalie's dirty face, some Shugdenpas shift the blame to the “CTA”.
Therefore, such Shugdenpas became nothing but accomplices of the obnoxious criminal, the evil dalie, and thus cannot say that “CTA creates violence again”.
Rather, they should say, “We self-styled Shugdenpas who are actually accomplices of the evil dalie create violence again, and try to shift the blame to the CTA in order to fell less guilty for our own suffering. Therefore, we self-styled Shugdenpas go against the Buddha and the lineage gurus because we blame others rather than ourselves for ouw own suffering”.
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Same as above minus the typos:
Rather, they should say, “We self-styled Shugdenpas who are actually accomplices of the evil dalie create violence again, and try to shift the blame to the CTA in order to feel less guilty for our own suffering. Therefore, we self-styled Shugdenpas go against the Buddha and the lineage gurus because we blame others rather than ourselves for our own suffering”.