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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Losang_Tenpa on December 10, 2011, 01:50:02 AM
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Here is a link to a new website that is devoted to Trisur Rinpoche Lungrik Namgyal.
I have heard that new audio and video teachings will be added soon. :)
http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/ (http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/)
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Seems this new website doesnt mention anything about Dorje Shugden. I wonder if it will?
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The website is devoted to Trisur Rinpoche, not Dorje Shugden.
It was cereated by students of Trisur Labrang.
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(wish we had the ability to edit/modify our posts like before) :(
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Gaden Trisur is now a legend for all of us Dorje Shudgen practitioners for standing up for the Dorje Shugden practise he was so wise to practise again after his Gaden Tripa tenure.
It is worth to take note that the throne of Gaden Trisur after his tenure as the 101th Gaden Tripa still remains in Gaden Monastery now, even though Trisur Rinpoche has openedly announced that he is a DS practitioner and joined Shar Gaden shortly after his tenure finished. As the holder of Je Tsongkhapa's throne, Gaden Tripa also wrote a letter authorizing Trijang Buddhist Institute of Northfeild Vermont to represent and transmit the teachings of the Gelug order of Tibetan Buddhism in the United States.
It is sadly ironic that great Gelug Lamas like the Ganden Tripa and Trijang Rinpoche, whose previous incarnations include several Ganden Tripas, have had to leave Ganden Monastery in order to uphold Je Tsongkhapa’s lineage when Je Tsongkhapa established Ganden Monastery precisely for this same purpose.
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I was told that Trisur Labrang has dozens of rare photos that they will also be adding to the site soon.
Good stuff. :)
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Thank you for posting the Trisur Rinpoche website,
I can't wait to see these old rare photos on the website soon, that's so nice to see a human side to Lama's upholding the Tsongkhapa lineage. Not just any Lama but Tsongkhapa's representative on earth I feel very lucky indeed.
Being able to find the dharma? can come in many forms... in this day in age it is so rare...seeing a picture of one's previous life's lama can open many dharma seeds that were once dormant...from my own experience I would not have found the dharma and DS without a little helping hand in this respect.
So thank you again admin for posting info / pics on many precious teachers from all lineages.
xox
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I was told that Trisur Labrang has dozens of rare photos that they will also be adding to the site soon.
Good stuff. :)
Thank you Losang_Tenpa for this wonderful sharing, wish that there will be teachings on Dorje Shugden by His Holiness Trisur Rinpoche.
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I just got news that the Trisur Rinpoche website is about to add a bunch more rare photos, as well as videos of teachings and pujas!
One of the monks from Trisur Labrang asked if I could help find someone to help translate some of the site into Chinese. If anyone here is able to help, please send me a message or post here. The labrang can not afford to pay for this service but the rewards of merit will be immense. :)
http://trisurlungriknamgyal.com/ (http://trisurlungriknamgyal.com/)
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Thank you Losang Tenpa for all these good news.
The website is nice, neat, appealing and offers to become a great platform for the teachings of Lama Tsongkhapa and for many, many people to connect with Trisur Rinpoche.
May Trisur Rinpoche remain with us for a long time, and may we create the causes for us to continue receiving teachings from our Gurus, now and in the future.
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Many new photos have been added....with more to come.
http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/pictures/ (http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/pictures/)
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Truly a great master who uphold the supreme dignity of the Gaden Tripa's throne, and without being affected by politics. When Trisur Rinpoche Lungrik Namgyal was in office, he knew well that the Dorje Shugden issue is complete nonsense, but he did not make it difficult fot the Dalai Lama. Right after his term of Gaden Tripa ended, he switched camp to Shar Gaden which says a lot about his Dharma practice and Guru Devotion. He is very skillful and compassionate in minimizing the "damage" to either side. Great great master indeed.
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Truly a great master who uphold the supreme dignity of the Gaden Tripa's throne, and without being affected by politics. When Trisur Rinpoche Lungrik Namgyal was in office, he knew well that the Dorje Shugden issue is complete nonsense, but he did not make it difficult fot the Dalai Lama. Right after his term of Gaden Tripa ended, he switched camp to Shar Gaden which says a lot about his Dharma practice and Guru Devotion. He is very skillful and compassionate in minimizing the "damage" to either side. Great great master indeed.
I cannot agree anymore with Mana re this. HH Gaden Trisur is still a talk of the town where I am now for his great deeds and achievements. He is especially raved for having join Shar Gaden. Why? People here think that the CTA has gone overboard with ostrasizing the monks from their monastery-their home for a practice they've held dear since their coming to India from Tibet~!
With HH Gaden Trisur going over to Shar Gaden, it is without doubt doing the necessary in extending His support to these monks. Whether financially or spiritual support, HH Gaden Trisur Rinpoche has definitely put a foot down to help end this nuisance. For some in the CTA, they were simply silenced by how He moved to Shar Gaden. I pray that more Lamas of His callibre stand up and speak up for these monks.
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Nice to see His Holiness Gaden Trisur Rinpoche in so many rare photos. Interesting interview too (under 'news')
I notice that the logo on the website reflects that his labrang is now a part of Shar Gaden. :)
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Truly a great master who uphold the supreme dignity of the Gaden Tripa's throne, and without being affected by politics. When Trisur Rinpoche Lungrik Namgyal was in office, he knew well that the Dorje Shugden issue is complete nonsense, but he did not make it difficult fot the Dalai Lama. Right after his term of Gaden Tripa ended, he switched camp to Shar Gaden which says a lot about his Dharma practice and Guru Devotion. He is very skillful and compassionate in minimizing the "damage" to either side. Great great master indeed.
What a lovely and elegant website for the Gaden Trisur. Yes, the website does not say anything about Dorje Shugden but I think that is not necessary at this point. The very fact that he is officially part of Shar Gaden speaks volumes of his loyalty and Samaya. His presence is Shar Gaden brings tremendous hope to many Dorje Shugden Lamas and practitioners who are suffering in silence. He is indeed very skillful and I do agree with Mana that his timing has minimized damage to both sides. He is very skillful and compassionate.
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I agree with dsdisciple that at times like this, seeing a picture of a lama will open the dharma seeds that were once dormant. I would like to thank you, Lobasang_Tenpa for Trisur Rinpoche website and the many photos.
A great master like Trisur Rinpoche, will never let politics affect his faith and practice and he like any great masters knew that all these DS controversies are just “rubbish”. Out of respect for HHDL, he did not switched camp but patiently waited for his term as Gaden Tripa to end before he moved to Shar Gaden. A very skilful method used so as not to offend any parties concerned.
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Amazing new biography has been added to the website devoted to His Holiness Gaden Trisur rinpoche. The biography is currently being translated into English and will be added soon.
http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/ (http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/)
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Amazing new biography has been added to the website devoted to His Holiness Gaden Trisur rinpoche. The biography is currently being translated into English and will be added soon.
[url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url] ([url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url])
It's strange that such a high ranking lama turns against HHDL. Without HHDL he would have never achieved the status he received. There would be no monasteries. No courses, no study, no status and Tibet would of just disappeared into China.
Gaden Trisur sets a bad example I feel for such a senior person.
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Amazing new biography has been added to the website devoted to His Holiness Gaden Trisur rinpoche. The biography is currently being translated into English and will be added soon.
[url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url] ([url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url])
It's strange that such a high ranking lama turns against HHDL. Without HHDL he would have never achieved the status he received. There would be no monasteries. No courses, no study, no status and Tibet would of just disappeared into China.
Gaden Trisur sets a back example I feel for such a senior person.
On the contrary. I think he is a great example because he stood for his lineage and Lamas. He would rather look bad politically by switching camps so that he would be able to uphold his practice of Dorje Shugden that he had received from his kind and venerable Lamas. So, he is courageous because he stood by his practice and not his political standing.
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Amazing new biography has been added to the website devoted to His Holiness Gaden Trisur rinpoche. The biography is currently being translated into English and will be added soon.
[url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url] ([url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url])
It's strange that such a high ranking lama turns against HHDL. Without HHDL he would have never achieved the status he received. There would be no monasteries. No courses, no study, no status and Tibet would of just disappeared into China.
Gaden Trisur sets a back example I feel for such a senior person.
On the contrary. I think he is a great example because he stood for his lineage and Lamas. He would rather look bad politically by switching camps so that he would be able to uphold his practice of Dorje Shugden that he had received from his kind and venerable Lamas. So, he is courageous because he stood by his practice and not his political standing.
Why is Gaden Trisur courageous by going against Dalai Lama? Wouldn't it be better if he stayed with the Dalai Lama and had private discussions about the whole Shugden affair? Wouldn't he be more effective being in the same camp as the Dalai Lama in order to spread the teachings of Buddha? It would have been better to work towards the Shugden issue from the inside. I mean meet with HHDL and talk, not turn against HHDL and leave. It doesn't make me feel he is courageous, maybe just short sighted.
He would of had a better chance of staying and talking with the HHDL from the inside about this Shugden practice.
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It's strange that such a high ranking lama turns against HHDL. Without HHDL he would have never achieved the status he received. There would be no monasteries. No courses, no study, no status and Tibet would of just disappeared into China.
Gaden Trisur sets a back example I feel for such a senior person.
The position of Gaden Tripas came about after the passing of Lama Tsongkhapa. The Dalai Lama position was officially given to Sonam Gyatso. Although the title was retrospectively given to his two predecessors. So the position of Gaden Tripa came before the Dalai Lama's came about so I think Dalai Lama's blessing is just a blessing. That to ascend to the Gaden Tripa's position is based on merit. Gaden Trisur is highly respected by the gelug lamas and his students, if he was a wishy washy lama I think he won't have the leisure to spread buddha dharma all over especially in China even after acknowledging that he won't be giving up the Dorje Shugden practise.
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It is good to see websites who pay tributes to high lamas
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It's strange that such a high ranking lama turns against HHDL. Without HHDL he would have never achieved the status he received. There would be no monasteries. No courses, no study, no status and Tibet would of just disappeared into China.
Gaden Trisur sets a back example I feel for such a senior person.
The position of Gaden Tripas came about after the passing of Lama Tsongkhapa. The Dalai Lama position was officially given to Sonam Gyatso. Although the title was retrospectively given to his two predecessors. So the position of Gaden Tripa came before the Dalai Lama's came about so I think Dalai Lama's blessing is just a blessing. That to ascend to the Gaden Tripa's position is based on merit. Gaden Trisur is highly respected by the gelug lamas and his students, if he was a wishy washy lama I think he won't have the leisure to spread buddha dharma all over especially in China even after acknowledging that he won't be giving up the Dorje Shugden practise.
I don't think Gaden Trisur is wishy washy. I believe he is wrong to defect to the Dhogyal side. He should have remained within the HHDL's circle and perhaps talk things out.
He is a great scholar and has tremendous merits, but like Geshe Kelsang, he can make mistakes too. After all he is human.
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If you see faults in lamas Like Geshe Kelsang or Gaden Tripa, where does it end? I can also see faults in your lama, where does it end? A lot confused students? If you call these teachers human, then the Dalai Lama is human too and can also make mistakes right? Where does this line of thinking lead you?
How to talk the decree is very clear with the ban, give up the practise or one must leave. The Gaden Trisur conducted his work well and left the position he held. If talk and negotiation was effective and possible today we won't be having Shar Gaden and Serpom. Do you think those monks left because they wanted to?
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Amazing new biography has been added to the website devoted to His Holiness Gaden Trisur rinpoche. The biography is currently being translated into English and will be added soon.
[url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url] ([url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/about/[/url])
Also a new video has been added to the site, with more to come in the near future. :)
http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/teachings/video/] [url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/teachings/video/ (http://[url)[/url]
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I rejoice for students of other Gurus are paying tribute to great master!
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Nice video, can anyone who can read Chinese translate. Looks like people from the Singapore, they look like Chinese people but darker. Seems like there is a lot of Dorje Shugden growth in that area! It is a Gaden Shartse production so the picture of the Dalai Lama makes sense, why is it appearing on Gaden Trisur's page is a mystery to me.
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It is a Gaden Shartse production so the picture of the Dalai Lama makes sense, why is it appearing on Gaden Trisur's page is a mystery to me.
Why you would say such a narrow-minded thing is a mystery to me.
The website is about Gaden Trisur Rinpoche. The website is a reflection of the entirety of his contributions to the Gelug lineage, not just about his life after the ban. Are you saying that all of his many teachings while at Gaden Shartse should be ignored just because he was then a member of Gaden Shartse? :o
Very narrow indeed.
The content of the website is being decided by senior students of Trisur Rinpoche. Many, many hours of work has been put into the website. Trisur Rinpoche's students see the totallity of his work and wish to share that with the world. Maybe you could try to see it for what it is; a precious Dharma Teaching devoid of politics. Not everything has to revolve around the ban. That type of mindset only creates more of the 'us versus them' mentality. Please try to see beyond that.
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The video on the website is a prequil to a series of teachings that Trisur Rinpoche gave. Many more videos will be added in the coming weeks. Yes, he was a member of Gaden Shartse at the time of these teachings. But that does not in any way mean that the video is not appropriate for his website.
I rejoice in ALL Rinpoche's deeds. :)
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Why is Gaden Trisur courageous by going against Dalai Lama? Wouldn't it be better if he stayed with the Dalai Lama and had private discussions about the whole Shugden affair? Wouldn't he be more effective being in the same camp as the Dalai Lama in order to spread the teachings of Buddha? It would have been better to work towards the Shugden issue from the inside. I mean meet with HHDL and talk, not turn against HHDL and leave. It doesn't make me feel he is courageous, maybe just short sighted.
He would of had a better chance of staying and talking with the HHDL from the inside about this Shugden practice.
A few points to what you're saying Tenzin Gyatso:
1. First of all, there is no opportunity within the Tibetan community under the Dalai Lama's ruling to have any talks or dialogue. So many Tibetan Buddhist practitioners have appealed and written to the Dalai Lama to request for open dialogue, forums and mutual, friendly talks. None of their requests have been addressed and been totally ignored. See this video which documents this very clearly:
Protest on Dalai Lama for banning Dorje Shugden practice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sdKnhNK16o#)
2. Secondly, Gaden Trisur's actions are considered courageous because he DARED TO STAND UP FOR WHAT HE BELIEVED IN, to stand by the practices and samaya that he has maintained all his life and not to submit to the ban for any political reasons. It is brave because he would face expulsion from his monastery, he risks being totally cut off from his Sangha and monastic community and being refused any social rights and welfare. Despite all these risks, he still did it, no matter what the consequences might have been. There are thousands more examples throughout the world of people who will sacrifice and risk anything for the sake of sticking by what they believe and making a stand. If this isn't courageous, I don't know what is.
3. He is not doing something subversive or against the Dalai Lama. He is standing up for his belief, practice, lineage and all his teachers. If he merely just "followed" the Dalai lama's ban, it would necessarily mean that he "goes against" all his own teachers, practices and samaya. There is nothing courageous in this.
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It's strange that such a high ranking lama turns against HHDL.
Without HHDL he would have never achieved the status he received. There would be no monasteries. No courses, no study, no status and Tibet would of just disappeared into China.
Gaden Trisur sets a bad example I feel for such a senior person.
I don't feel like as if Gaden Trisur did turn against HHDL.
And I would not expect such mindsets from a learned lama like Gaden Trisur.
I believe that Gaden Trisur is doing what needs to be done: acting for the benefit of the many in a way that the Dalai Lama could not have done from his position at the moment without looking flippant and severe his seat.
Gaden Trisur is showing the world what the truth is about Dorje Shugden.
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Check this out:
http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/gelug-lineage/ (http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/gelug-lineage/)
Its not too large a file and kinda fuzzy when enlarged... but who do we see in in the middle near the base of the tree? :)
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Check this out:
[url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/gelug-lineage/[/url] ([url]http://www.trisurlungriknamgyal.com/gelug-lineage/[/url])
Its not too large a file and kinda fuzzy when enlarged... but who do we see in in the middle near the base of the tree? :)
Oh yes indeed, thank you for spotting this out PA.
What a gorgeous Guru tree!
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Cool video
Lungri Namgyal Gaden Trisur (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7CD5CxBXfI#)
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Thank you, Losang Tenpa, for introducing us to this new website of Gaden Trisur. As can be seen from this quite recent video, His Holiness Gaden Trisur continues to be a highly respected personage.
I totally agree with Beggar that Gaden Trisur, in declaring his intention to practice Shugden upon his retirement as the 101 Gaden Tripa, is not showing disrespect of the Dalai Lama nor standing up against Him. Rather his courage is to stand up for what he believes in, and that is that Dorje Shugden is the enlightened Protector who arose to protect the teachings of Je Tsongkapa and the Gelug lineage
If we read and study His answer to the Question -"How will Your Holiness describe Your Relationship with HH the Dalai Lama(in an interview during His 2003 visit to S'pore as Gaden Tripa)?" - we can see how much of love and respect He has for the Dalai Lama. He said that the Dalai Lama "is one of my precious Root Teachers"(who had taken such great care of Him all the way from the time when He had been just a newly ordained monk). He also said that He had taken a photograph with Dalai Lama recently and that "(t)hat there is nothing in the world that I cherish more".
There is so much dignity in this great personage who refused to be drawn into the politics and continues throughout to maintain His love and devotion for all His Root Gurus.
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http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12350 (http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12350)
Thank you for sharing such an inspiring story. This really increases my faith to my lord Dorje Shudgen. If a holy being His holiness 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal is practicing DS, definitely DS is not harmful and it will bring benefits to all. What else do we need to be afraid of??!!!
Besides, his holiness is showing a great example of Guru Devotion. With the ban and being the Gaden Tripa, I am sure it is not easy for him to practice secretly. However, he is still upholding his Guru’s teaching and continue his practice on DS. Tribute to you, HH Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal!