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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: LosangKhyentse on January 31, 2011, 07:15:29 PM
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In Kham, there's a Chamdo Monastery. Recently the grand Abbot of Chamdo Monastery conferred initiation of Dorje Shugden onto 10,000 who came for teachings given by him. The abbot mentioned the lineage of Dorje Shugden will definitely grow.
Now 10,000 more monk and lay Tibetans have received this sacred Dorje Shugden initiation (Sogtae).
Normally Sogtae is conferred to three at a time, but because the crowd was around 10,000, he conferred it all at once as in the style of public Kalacakra initiations.
A close friend had called Tibet to his other friends and received this wonderful information.
Remember, last month Geshe Thupten from Switzerland conferred Sogtae to 200 sangha members in Shar Gaden, South India.
TK
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Thank Tk,
This is really good news and I think this will spread Dorje Shugden even further and wider. Dorje Shugden practice is sorely needed by so many people today. It would be such a blessing to have great Dorje Shugden Lamas give massive Sogtaes in packed stadiums and auditoriums. That would mean that Dorje Shugden practice will become mainstream one day. Perhaps, all schools of Tibetan Buddhism will one day see Dorje Shugden as a common Protector like how Mahakala is universally practiced by all traditions.
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not sure if this is the one that TK is talking about, but definitely in Chamdo, the are many monasteries still practising Dorje Shugden, and some of them are HUGE monasteries like Jampa Ling where Dorje Shugden practice is still very much alive and initiations are given regularly. My friends in that area are always talking about this and that Dorje Shugden initiation here and there, just that the information is not that well propagated so few people know about it.
JAMPA LING in Chamdo:
http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=81
(http://www.dorjeshugden.com/images/jampaling00.jpg)
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This is wonderful news :)
Dorje shugden practise is certainly growing, and Best of all it means the Tradition of Je Tsongkhapa shall certainly remain pure and flourish !!! :P
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Jampa Ling is a massive Monsastery in Chamdo, Kham, Tibet. They are all very stalwart practitioners of Dorje Shugden. They are against Dalai Lama's ban. Some of their teaching Tulkus while giving sermons have openly spoken against the ban. It is on youtube.
See more on them here: http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=81
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Amazing... Jampa Ling looks like a mini city!
Thank you for this news... It's wonderful to hear that 10,000 monks received the sogtae. I rejoice for them! When we are stalwart in our practice I guess we create the cause to receive the sogtae. I really hope to have the honour to receive it one day.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "Sogtae". Is it like HH Kalachakra initiation, can anyone attend these special ceremonies? Initiation is a big thing, most of the time people from the west just attend without even understanding there is a committment involved.
Sogtae committment, whats that like? and whats the repercussion or result if we don't keep our commitment.
Happy so many people (10,000) have this sacred initiation.
tks for the news.
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I hope TK can anwer this. But I remember a thread a few months back discussing this. In the meanwhile perhaps you can refer to them?
Welcome btw.
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Hi Roberto,
There are some photos of the recent Sogtae at Shar Gaden on this thread. Do take a look - http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=1028.0.
Cheers!
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Roberto - there's also this thread: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=941.msg11336#msg11336
Happy reading and yes, welcome to the forum. There's a limitless wealth of information here...
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Great news!
We can rejoyce, for amongst the 10,000 there is meant to be meritorious practitioners faster than others in their path that will make a difference sooner than later. This initiation is a booster!
Great news indeed!
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Sogtae is the empowerment into the practice of Dorje Shugden. Once you receive empowerment you promise to hold Dorje Shugden as your main protector until you gain Bodhicitta. Dorje Shugden promises to protect you on the dharma path until you gain bodhicitta in life after life.
Prior to Sogtae you need to have received a higher Anuttara Yoga tantric initiation already as a prerequisite.
TK
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This is indeed very wonderful news. Another cause for Dorje Shugden practice to spread far and wide. In this degenerate age with its tremendous suffering, Dorje Shugden is so needed. The conferment of Dorje Sugden Sogtae to another 10,000 people is another step for Dorje Shugden practice to become mainstream in the near future and many people would be able to find solace through this practice. I truly rejoice!
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In order to receive Sogtae (initiation-empowerment), we must have clean samaya with our Guru, by keeping our commitments well.
By sincerely practicing guru devotion, we are creating the causes to receive higher teachings. However, before we are qualified to receive Sogtae, we must first receive initiation into Yamantaka and Vajrayogini's holy practices.
Thus, guru devotion is pinnacle in this path as all the blessings of the deities come from the kindness of our Guru.
Receiving Sogtae is immensely beneficial and greatly needed as this will ensure that Dorje Shugden follows us in all our future lives until we achieve the Bodhi mind.
Wishing all success, attainments and blessings
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How fortunate is that, 10,000 beings have the right causes, conditions and merits to be able to receive the empowerment again in this life to carrry on into their future lives.
Would I be ready if I were to have the fortune to be able to receive the empowerment? Time for some deep reflection and self examination. Where am I at, is my samaya clean? Thats the difference between Lay and Sangha, lay has soo many distractions. This could be plus point but more often than not its the main cause for broken samaya.
Just like some samsara if you want it bad enough... then just do it!
I rejoice for them, that others may receive the same empowerment in future.
tq all
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Jampa Ling is a massive Monsastery in Chamdo, Kham, Tibet. They are all very stalwart practitioners of Dorje Shugden. They are against Dalai Lama's ban. Some of their teaching Tulkus while giving sermons have openly spoken against the ban. It is on youtube.
See more on them here: [url]http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=81[/url]
A little bit more information on this monastery which i thought is fascinating.
Source : http://www.travelchinaguide.com/attraction/tibet/chamdo/chambaling.htm
Built in 1444 by one of the Tsong Khapa's disciples, Jampaling Monastery (Chambaling Monastery) is located on a high mesa where Ongqu and Zhaqu Rivers meet and merge into the famous Lancang River in Chamdo Town. The monastery houses the Gelugpa Sect which belongs to Tibetan Buddhism.
Constructed as the first monastery of the Gelugpa Sect in Kham area, Jampaling Monastery has a history of about 540 years. It has the Main Assembly Hall, the Guardian Hall, the Tara Hall, the Sutra Debating Hall and 12 Zhacangs (sutra studying schools).
From the reign of the 14th abbot, the monastery adopted the Reincarnation System of living Buddha. In history, there were five main living Buddhas. Since the reign of Emperor Kangxi of the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911), those living Buddhas have been all conferred by the central government. Today, in the monastery are still preserved a bronze seal, a plaque inscribed with 'Gandan Jampaling Monastery' granted by Emperor Kangxi and another plaque bestowed by Qianlong, also an emperor of the Qing Dynasty. In its Golden Age, the monastery housed about 5,000 monks and administered 70 small monasteries.
The most celebrated feature in the monastery is the Holy Dance, only performed during the Butter Lamp Festival that celebrates the victory of Sakyamuni against the heretics in a religious debate. The festival falls on January 15th of Tibetan calendar. During the festival, the monks wear ferocious masks and perform this religious dance to exorcise the ghosts and to pray for a good harvest next year.
Hundreds of Buddhist figures and sculptures of hierarchs, wonderful murals and Thangkas in the monastery are also worth visiting. All of them show the exquisite craftsmanship of the artisans in Chamdo.
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Came across this old article and it’s really rejoice to know that so many people are receiving the blessing from Dorje Shugden!
Trijang Rinpoche confers Dorje Shugden initiation in Mongolia in early 2013. (check out for more pictures here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/trijang-rinpoche-conferred-dorje-shugden-initiation-in-mongolia-2011/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/trijang-rinpoche-conferred-dorje-shugden-initiation-in-mongolia-2011/))
According to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, “People who have this Shugden initiation and people who practice Dorje Shugden, those people have very great, successful meditation and practice. Even worldly measures, like worldly activities and business and job; everything becomes very successful.”
Kyabje Zong Rinpoche also said “After receiving this Dorje Shugden initiation, you have to do puja once a month. Also, it is necessary to follow the commitment, and you have to make a commitment with the lineage and with the order.
So that means, for example you [might] receive teachings from different traditions but mainly, your practice, your focus, your energy [should be put] into this lineage, the Gelugpa lineage.”
(Click here for the full article on Kyabje Zong Rinpoche’s advice on Dorje Shugden: [url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/videos/must-watch/must-watch-advice-from-hh-kyabje-zong-dorje-chang-on-dorje-shugden-part-1/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/videos/must-watch/must-watch-advice-from-hh-kyabje-zong-dorje-chang-on-dorje-shugden-part-1/[/url]))
How bless to receive Dorje Shugden sogtae. I pray that I would have the chance to receive sogtae too!
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Dear TK,
Thanks for the news! Rejoice , rejoice to the peoples whom received the Sogtae.
Sogtae is the empowerment into the practice of Dorje Shugden[/i]. Before receiving Sogtae, as what have DSfriend said: we must first receive initiation into Yamantaka and Vajrayogini's holy practices. [/i]
Yamantaka and Vajrayogini are recognize as the higher tantric initiation. Thus to received Sogtae, as a prerequisite, we need to have this two initiation first. This is a very clear sign that Dorje Shugden is a Buddha.
Thus, for Dalai Lama to call Dorje Shugden as spirit is totally out of logic.
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Amazing news to know that 10,000 more people received Shugden Sogtae. As in order to receive Sogtae the person first need to have initiation of tantric practises of Yamantaka and Vajrayogini. So can CTA explain to us why do Shugden practitioners and High Lamas bother to treat Dorje Shugden so seriously if He is merely an "evil spirit". Why do Shugden practitioners have to go through so much just for a spirit?