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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: DSFriend on October 15, 2010, 07:39:04 PM
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Ever wondered what you can give someone who has no needs, no grasping,...a Buddha?
Dorje Shugden wants us to
“soar the path of immortal liberation on unified wings of Sutra and Tantra.”
He wants to
“increase Lozang the Victorious One’s Teachings, and the life span and activities of the Teachings’ upholders.”
He wants to
“pacify all harm to us, the yogis and entourages, that arises because of previous karma and immediate conditions, and spontaneously accomplish, just as we wish, all good things, both spiritual and temporal.”
For those who recognize him
“as the supreme collected nature of all Gurus and Protective Deities”,
He wants to
“pour down a cool rain of the two siddhis.”
(quotes from His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s prayer, Melody of the Unceasing Vajra)
In short,
Dorje Shugden wants us to practice authentic Dharma and gain authentic attainments. He wants us to get onto a valid path and keep us from straying from it; from falling into the abysses of eternalism and nihilism and the unfortunate karma created by doing so.
Source : http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=130
Doesn't the text clearly shows what kind of a being Dorje Shugden is?
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Who else would give such unconditional love and care to us besides buddha?
Who do we call when we face obstacles to our practice?
Who do we invoke when we encounter evil forces due to our own doing?
Who do we pray to when we lack conducive conditions to practice?
BUDDHA = DORJE SHUGDEN
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Well said, Kurava! And thank you, DS Friend for re-posting those valuable points.
And when we contemplate further and deeper - the qualities of DS is very much like the qualities of our own Guru.
Many a times, my Guru has explained that to be close to our Gurus and the Buddhas is not just about chanting prayers and doing pujas alone. But it is in our practice. And our practice is about what we do after prayers and pujas - everything that we do after meeting our Gurus or hearing his talks/teachings.
Everything that DS wants is exactly what our Guru wants.
And if we can work on that, day after day - we will definitely become closer to both our Guru and DS.
At the most basic level, DS destroys selfishness. Selfishness limits everything and imprisons us.
Where as, selflessness frees us from everything and everything is possible. Because there are no more boundaries.
With every obstacle that we overcome within, we are definitely a step closer to what our Guru prays for us, and what DS wants for us.
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This is crystal clear.
It cuts short any type of polemic.
Only a Buddha wants all beings to become Buddhas, and acts upon it:
-now, now, now
-from a qualified ground (that is the enlightened mind)
-un-conditionally,
-skilfully
-and with equanimity,
for that is what makes one a Buddha.
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And on the note, as many have mentioned that Dorje Shugden is infact a buddha, he is also a highly attained lama (Previous incarnation was Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen) but manifested in a protector form. So it is extremely unique that DS can be propituated as a Lama, Yidam and protector, all three at the same time.
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I couldn't agree more. Dorje Shugden is a Buddha as mentioned in the praise by His Holiness the 5th and the 14th Dalai Lama:
Though unmoving from the sphere of primordial spontaneity ...
(Prayer by the 5th Dalai Lama, http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?page_id=341)
Glory of the wisdom, compassion and power of infinite Buddhas
(Melody of the Unceasing Vajra, http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?page_id=346)
Dorje Shugden is enlightened because he's unmoving from Dharmakaya (primordial spontaneity), and embodies the glory of infinite Buddha's wisdom, compassion, and power. Only a Buddha would have those qualities that were just mentioned.
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As quoted by DSFriend: "Dorje Shugden wants us to practice authentic Dharma and gain authentic attainments. He wants us to get onto a valid path and keep us from straying from it; from falling into the abysses of eternalism and nihilism and the unfortunate karma created by doing so."
In return for our practice, Dorje Shugden works miracles.and the benefits are many. He helps to clear away our obstacles, he protects us from harm and dangers, he clears our obstacles and brings wealth, he heals our body, mind and spirit, he protects us from spirits and black magic. In fact, he protects us from worldly dangers, helps us develop our skillful means, wisdom and great compassion (Bodhicitta), and removes all our obstacles.
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In return for our practice, Dorje Shugden works miracles.and the benefits are many. He helps to clear away our obstacles, he protects us from harm and dangers, he clears our obstacles and brings wealth, he heals our body, mind and spirit, he protects us from spirits and black magic. In fact, he protects us from worldly dangers, helps us develop our skillful means, wisdom and great compassion (Bodhicitta), and removes all our obstacles.
I love this post!
Whenever I am going through a particularly difficult time, I find that as soon as I start to pray to Dorje Shugden with a sincere heart all worry is lifted from me. This does not mean that I hand over all my problems for Dorje Shugden to handle. My problems are a manifestation of the karma that I created, therfore I must be the one who handles how the problems are resolved. What it means is that as soon as I start to pray with sincerity I always feel reasured that if I do what is right and I do what I need to do to get back on track, Dorje Shugden will make sure that obstacles are cleared and favorable conditions manifest. And from my experience it ALWAYS works like that when I keep Dorje Shugden close to my heart and mind.
Things ALWAYS work out for the best when I do what I need to do and leave the rest for Dorje Shugden. It may not always work out the way that I would have guessed but it always works out to where my situation improves and my peace of mind expands.
Dorje Shugden's mantra helps me keep him close when my mind may be a little loose. His mantra is something that reminds me of his presence and his power.
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Whenever I am going through a particularly difficult time, I find that as soon as I start to pray to Dorje Shugden with a sincere heart all worry is lifted from me. This does not mean that I hand over all my problems for Dorje Shugden to handle. My problems are a manifestation of the karma that I created, therfore I must be the one who handles how the problems are resolved. What it means is that as soon as I start to pray with sincerity I always feel reasured that if I do what is right and I do what I need to do to get back on track, Dorje Shugden will make sure that obstacles are cleared and favorable conditions manifest. And from my experience it ALWAYS works like that when I keep Dorje Shugden close to my heart and mind.
Things ALWAYS work out for the best when I do what I need to do and leave the rest for Dorje Shugden. It may not always work out the way that I would have guessed but it always works out to where my situation improves and my peace of mind expands.
Dorje Shugden's mantra helps me keep him close when my mind may be a little loose. His mantra is something that reminds me of his presence and his power.
Very well said Tenzin Sungrab. I agree with you that as long as we do not stray away from pur path and practice Dharma sincerely, Dorje Shugden will be there to watch over us day and night.
I share the same feeling with you that whenever I do DS mantra and his sadhana, I feel peace and at ease in my mind, I can let go easier and pick myself up where I have stumbled upon. With DS in my heart, I have learn to forgive, to let others win, and not to give up so easily.
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Thanks for sharing, TS.
I think the same applies for everyone in here in varying degrees.
It is precisely after going through "hellish nightmares" that we know how much this amazing Protector stands by us and watches over us. When we are down, and are pulling ourselves up, we can feel HIS helping hand. When we are pushing ourselves to try harder, we can feel HIS gentle force helping us move forward.
When we do not give up, HE will do his best to help us even more.
This is why I love the whole story of Dorje Shugden. His entire life story is aout HOPE, NEVER QUITTING and GREAT COMPASSION.
He would rather give up his own life to do what must be done.
He would always give the victory to others and take the lowest for himself.
He does not mind being ridiculed or dishonoured and even blamed for everything. He takes it all in because he can bear it all.
He does not stop caring even when others have stopped caring.
His Guru Devotion is of the highest degree and his vows are upheld without the slightest stain.
He will give you his heart if you devote yourself to TRANSFORM for real.
People can stab, burn and kill him and yet he will still return to help them all the same.
I am always inspired just reading his story over and over again. Or just remembering how HE CAME INTO BEING.
The Dorje Shugden story is the very path to Enlightenment in itself!
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If Dorje Shugden wants those from his practitioners, what does it show? It shows that he is in reality an enlightened being that can also double up as a Yidam and a Guru. He was a lama once, after all, and has been known to confer teachings and initiations over trances to people who need them, or to preserve a certain teaching lineage. If he was an evil spirit like what many of his detractors claim to be, then how can this be?
It cannot be that an ordinary spirit would want his followers or supports to attain enlightenment. All they would have cared about would be what their supporters and followers can give them instead of wanting for their benefit. Isn't this a very clear indication that Dorje Shugden is enlightened? What else is there to say? It would be the same as trying to dig up information and distorting it so that it would seem that HHDL is not enlightened….waste of time
As DS practitioners, it would be natural for us to follow the Buddha's teachings to achieve those things so that more people can benefit from us…so if we can achieve those things, it would show people that Dorje Shugden is not bad but he is good because the practitioners are good, therefore their main deity or protector must be good too. It can't be that a bad Dharma protector produce good practitioner…it does not make sense.
When more and more Dorje Shugden practitioners show results in their practice, and they benefit more and more people, CTA can no longer say that Dorje Shugden is bad. They will be forced to lift the ban because what they say no longer matches the truth. They will have to swallow all the negative things they said about Dorje Shugden, and nobody will respect them any longer as they have proven themselves to be failures….unless they change now.
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Dorje Shugden has made the promise to protect pure Tsongkhapa teachings, he will help whoever is sincere in practising Dharma. He will give practitioners who are propitiating him a favorable environment to practise Dharma, remove the obstacles. At the moment of death, if the practitioners have 100% faith in him, he will bring them to a good place to take rebirth and continue the Dharma practice again.
What he wants is for us to have realisation and be enlightened so we can help many other beings to be free of sufferings, continue to spread the Buddha's teachings. He does not want us to suffer he will use his skilful means to create a condition where we can have realisation and progress further in our spiritual practice.
Just look at his story, his selfless, he has never done anything for his own benefits, he even sacrificed his life in order to become this great protector to guide us.
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Why not stay with Kalarupa who is assigned to his followers by Tsongkapa himself as the root protector of Gelug practice and lineage? Who has the authority to override Tsongkapa??
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Why not stay with Kalarupa who is assigned to his followers by Tsongkapa himself as the root protector of Gelug practice and lineage? Who has the authority to override Tsongkapa??
Tsongkhapa. :)
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Dear DSFriend, thank you so much for highlighting these facts. This article serves to affirm the fact that Dorje Shugden is indeed a Buddha. Who else would want us to be free of suffering and be enlightened and yet at the same time provide us with favorable conditions to achieve it? Anyone who claim DS to be a spirit must read this. How much and what offerings do we need to offer in order to appease Dorje Shugden for all of this wonderful love, care and protection? -Practice authentic Dharma, gain authentic attainments and stay on the valid path. That is all he asked of us. How awesome!
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Why not stay with Kalarupa who is assigned to his followers by Tsongkapa himself as the root protector of Gelug practice and lineage? Who has the authority to override Tsongkapa??
No harm to stay with ferocious Kalarupa. And sure ...why not?! Afterall he is a protector of the small scope of lamrim oh and guess what he's also emanation of Manjushri! So why not just stay with Manjushri?
How i look at it is there are different emanations of the enlightened minds manifesting to be of most help to us at different times, karma, delusions.
It is beneficial to study and gain faith in the different emanations...at least for me who has little faith.
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I love the practice of Buddhism and I am drawn to all the Buddhas, the mantras and even the rituals.
However, what really stands out about Dorje Shugden is how PERSONAL the practice feels when we take it seriously and do the practice sincerely and correctly. And over time it in fact becomes personal when we see the Buddha Dorje Shugden becoming involved in our daily lives...always there to protect us from harm and always there to guide or practice.
I am not an expert but I feel that Dorje Shugden, whilst a fully enlightened being stays with us in our mundane lives to help us. Like a best friend would. Whilst I see the benevolence of all the Buddhas, my negative karma perhaps or my lack of merits keep me somewhat disconnected from them. I do not feel their presence although the presence of the dharma is tangible. That is not the case with Dorje Shugden. I feel very connected to this Buddha, not by my merits but by Dorje Shugden's compassion.
As I have come to learn Dorje Shugden's practice and apply it, Dorje Shugden's presence becomes tangible and the Buddha shows signs to encourage.
The only thing Dorje Shugden wants is what any best friend whats for us i.e. to be free of Samsara; to fulfill or dharmic potential and to realize true joy and bliss. I cannot detect in any of the sadhanas and practice what Dorje Shugden demands of us that is onerous.
I feel very fortunate to have Dorje Shugden in my life.
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I love the practice of Buddhism and I am drawn to all the Buddhas, the mantras and even the rituals.
However, what really stands out about Dorje Shugden is how PERSONAL the practice feels when we take it seriously and do the practice sincerely and correctly. And over time it in fact becomes personal when we see the Buddha Dorje Shugden becoming involved in our daily lives...always there to protect us from harm and always there to guide or practice.
I am not an expert but I feel that Dorje Shugden, whilst a fully enlightened being stays with us in our mundane lives to help us. Like a best friend would. Whilst I see the benevolence of all the Buddhas, my negative karma perhaps or my lack of merits keep me somewhat disconnected from them. I do not feel their presence although the presence of the dharma is tangible. That is not the case with Dorje Shugden. I feel very connected to this Buddha, not by my merits but by Dorje Shugden's compassion.
As I have come to learn Dorje Shugden's practice and apply it, Dorje Shugden's presence becomes tangible and the Buddha shows signs to encourage.
The only thing Dorje Shugden wants is what any best friend whats for us i.e. to be free of Samsara; to fulfill or dharmic potential and to realize true joy and bliss. I cannot detect in any of the sadhanas and practice what Dorje Shugden demands of us that is onerous.
I feel very fortunate to have Dorje Shugden in my life.
Dorje Shugden only follows and protects those who are sincere, not in devotion to him but sincere in their own Dharma practice. To practice Dharma and gain realizations so that others will suffer less...that is the best motivation of all to practice the Dharma. If we deceive ourselves, deceive others and practice the Dharma only for our own benefit, Dorje Shugden cannot help us due to our strong negative karma.
Dorje Shugden is not a worldly god and cannot be bribed by extensive offerings. He is a fully-fledged Buddha who has no needs for such material gain but we need to offer anyway so that we are able to gain the merit and create the causes for good things to happen in our lives in the near future. No matter how much you do his prayer and puja but wthout a sincere heart, he will never come to you.
Even to those who are not close to him, he still provides them with assistance of a secular level so that their minds suffer less, and for them to develop faith in him. This is a very interesting factor about Dorje Shugden as a Dharma protector, that he helps the practitioner no matter what happens...but the intensity of how he can help you differs according to your negative karma.
Personally I feel that this explanation is more than enough to show us that Dorje Shugden is in reality, enlightened and we should really feel lucky that we are given a chance to connect with him through the kindness of our lamas.
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Thanks for the post and all the contribution of thoughts and personal experience of Dorje Shugden.
I especially agree with Vajratruth the in practicing Dorje Shugden sincerely and consistently, His presence is very clear and, in some way, obvious in daily life activities. He truly compassionately comes down to our level! Not only does Dorje Shugden help overcome outer obstacles, He patiently and skillfully helps us overcome our inner obstacles too.
With diligent practice, I notice fellow students who apply this sacred practice transform in their mind. How do I know? The transformation is reflected in the actions of their body and speech.
This mind transformation in return is the greatest gift we can offer Dorje Shugden and our kind Gurus. This minds transformation also creates the cause for our Guru and the Dharma to remain with us until we achieve the great goal of enlightenment. So, mind transformation is the beginning of a vicious cycle UPWARDS!
Thank you DSFriend for this post. Now, when I recite these lines during the daily Sadhana, I am able to reflect deeper on its meaning. May this also help many others in the same manner.
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What does any enlightened being want from us? What does our Lama want from us?
Having extreme compassion and highly attained, Dorje Shugden, like our lama, only wants us (as practitioners) to change our attitudes, be sincere in our Dharma practice, transform our mind, be harmonious and aim towards Bodhicitta. Ultimately, as they can see past this life of ours, they will do all that they can do to lead us on the path towards enlightenment, and on our side, there is no amount of offering greater than that of joyous effort, hardwork, transformation of mind and attitude.
If we keep creating strong negative karma through our body speech and mind, no enlightened being can help us even if they wanted to. We create too many "layers" infront of us, that the help cannot even penetrate through these layers. Therefore, as a direct method to stop accruing negative karma so that we can receive help, we do everything opposite from what we are doing to create those negative karma. And that is what enlightened beings want from us - to help ourselves so they can help us.
Therefore, having a lama is like having Dorje Shugden with us, as our lama, yidam, protector are one. If we disobey our guru, DS can't help us too.. so guru devotion is another key thing, especially in Vajrayana, that DS would want from us.
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In return for our practice, Dorje Shugden works miracles.and the benefits are many. He helps to clear away our obstacles, he protects us from harm and dangers, he clears our obstacles and brings wealth, he heals our body, mind and spirit, he protects us from spirits and black magic. In fact, he protects us from worldly dangers, helps us develop our skillful means, wisdom and great compassion (Bodhicitta), and removes all our obstacles.
I love this post!
Whenever I am going through a particularly difficult time, I find that as soon as I start to pray to Dorje Shugden with a sincere heart all worry is lifted from me. This does not mean that I hand over all my problems for Dorje Shugden to handle. My problems are a manifestation of the karma that I created, therfore I must be the one who handles how the problems are resolved. What it means is that as soon as I start to pray with sincerity I always feel reasured that if I do what is right and I do what I need to do to get back on track, Dorje Shugden will make sure that obstacles are cleared and favorable conditions manifest. And from my experience it ALWAYS works like that when I keep Dorje Shugden close to my heart and mind.
Things ALWAYS work out for the best when I do what I need to do and leave the rest for Dorje Shugden. It may not always work out the way that I would have guessed but it always works out to where my situation improves and my peace of mind expands.
Dorje Shugden's mantra helps me keep him close when my mind may be a little loose. His mantra is something that reminds me of his presence and his power.
Thank you so much for your sharing tk. I love what you wrote here because it resonates very strongly with what I believe in Dorje Shugden. In my experience, I used to be quite weak when it comes to fending off against my personal obstacles which are actually internal but appears external. My obstacles appear real before I know about Dorje Shugden, and after receiving his help and doing his practice, it seems that my obstacles are not even obstacles to start with as he helped me develop my mind and helped me understand the teachings more. It is incredible now that what I used to perceive as obstacles are no longer obstacles ever since I have met him and my ability to study the Dharma has improved a lot more and my mind is always clear and calm. It is a far cry from before and the additional stability has assisted me a lot in my Dharma practice and this is all thanks possible to due to Dorje Shugden's kindness.
In other words, Dorje Shugden helped me overcome my obstacles by strengthening my mind so that I can overcome my obstacles by myself. I am very overwhelmed by his kindness and skillful means, and it is on this basis that my faith on Dorje Shugden is based on.
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I agreed to what DS Friend has shared here, an enlightened deity does not acquire anything from us- the normal human beings who are living in a samsara, what the protector wants FOR us is to practise the Buddha Dharma purely and with sincerity. That is why Lord Dorje Shugden is here, to save us from samsara and lead us to the path of Enlightenment.
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It brings tears to my eyes to know what Dorje Shugden wants. All Dorje Shugden wants is for us to be liberated and progress to enlightenment.
Dorje Shugden is the Protector of this current degenerate times. As an enlightened Buddha, DS wants and needs nothing from us and He will protect the Doctrine of Je Tsongkapa and also remove our obscurations and obstacles so that we can practise and bless us with attainments.
All that mentioned in this post is in our Sadhana. Thank you for reminding us how great and compassionate our King Protector is.