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Title: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: DharmaDefender on May 20, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
You lot HAVE TO READ THIS. Absolutely insane that in this day and age, theres no legal recourse for breaking and entering. What kind of vows are these perpetrators breaking?! Their essentially breaking into the house of someone that the previous Dalai Lama said had become one with Lama Tsongkhapa. How they can think they will still get results in their practice is beyond me.


BREAKING NEWS: Domo Geshe Rinpoche’s Monastery in Phedong Attacked!

As pressure increases on the Tibetan leadership to end the unjust and undemocratic ban, Dorje Shugden practitioners are experiencing increasing vulgarities and violence directed at them from supporters of the Dalai Lama. At this time of writing, one of Domo Geshe Rinpoche’s Ladrang-Gompas is currently being occupied by monks from a nearby monastery.

On May 18, 2014 at 3:30pm, a group of 40 monks and laypeople from Tharpa Choling in Kalimpong, forced their way into Gaden Choling in Phedong. They have continued to occupy the Gaden Choling premises and claim that the monastery belongs to them. Despite police attempts at mediation, they have refused to leave the premises.

The bewildering aspect of this whole incident is that both Tharpa Choling and Gaden Choling were Ladrang-Gompas under the 2nd Domo Geshe Rinpoche. The ban however, led Tharpa Choling to give up their teacher for the sake of appearing politically correct. Since then, Tharpa Choling has been aggressively attempting to prove their loyalty to the Tibetan leadership, by suppressing the other Ladrang-Gompas of the 2nd Domo Geshe Rinpoche.

READ MORE: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/breaking-news-domo-geshe-rinpoches-monastery-in-phedong-attacked/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/breaking-news-domo-geshe-rinpoches-monastery-in-phedong-attacked/)

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: kris on May 20, 2014, 06:40:59 PM
It is indeed very shameful acts, especially the monks. As monks, they have vows and taking possessions do not belong to them is a definitely a NO NO.

This also make HH Dalai Lama look very bad, because the monks and monasteries he has given "approvals" are behaving as such. If HH Dalai Lama keeps quiet, then he indirectly approves their action, and I am sure with HH Dalai Lama's "approval" they will be even aggressive.

This also make Buddhism look very bad, as Buddhism is a ambassador for peace, yet such unwholesome act is carried out by the monks.

I urge everyone to share this news on social media and make it go viral to let the world know that such unethical and aggressive acts are being carried, and all of these are because of the unjustified ban on Dorje Shugden.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: dsiluvu on May 21, 2014, 07:17:07 AM
Oh my God this is horrible!!! How could they do that, how dare they force themselves in and try to take over another's property. This is totally against the law!

My gosh not only are they traitors, disloyal, disrespectful and political, they are greedy!

The Ban on Dorje Shugden by the Tibetan leader that has caused so much harm up to a point where sanghas are fighting against each other!

Why are the four monks refusing to leave a premise that does not belong to them, and how dare they trespass??? Where on earth have you ever heard of people forcefully attempting to take over what is not theirs in the first place? Hello but in this real world, this is a crime of forcing an entry and burglary, in this case, these monks act like thieves stealing a "house"! 

What kind of monks are these, sorry to say but this is Not Right! I hope the Chief Police does something quick and I hope these monks will be arrested for their criminal act of breaking an entry! So horrible! Is this how Buddhist behave? This is so against the law! The world is watching!!! The four traitor monks better get out of there before they get arrested and if they did, they really deserve it!
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Big Uncle on May 21, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
Oh no! I hope the police would be successful in mediating between both parties. There is a vested interest in Gaden Choling because of the Dorje Shugden relics by the previous Domo Geshe Rinpoches. They are a very important part of the Dorje Shugden lineage and if the monastery would fall into the wrong hands, they would certainly destroy these precious relics.

It is very clear why these nasty monks want so badly to possess this small little monastery. It is very sad that these monks act in such an unmonkly manner and would break their samaya with their Guru. I pray that they would not be successful and for something to happen in order to preserve the legacy of our lineage.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Vajra21 on May 21, 2014, 01:07:56 PM
The Police  have said that two monks from each side should occupy the Monastery as a compromise.Would it ever  be tolerated in any part of the world if a burglar breaks into your house and if the police  suggested that the burglar and the family members should both share the house as a compromise after the break in?! This has been the sad attitude of the corrupt authorities towards the many perils of Pedong Ganden Choling Monastery.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: lotus1 on May 24, 2014, 09:25:33 PM
The Police  have said that two monks from each side should occupy the Monastery as a compromise.Would it ever  be tolerated in any part of the world if a burglar breaks into your house and if the police  suggested that the burglar and the family members should both share the house as a compromise after the break in?! This has been the sad attitude of the corrupt authorities towards the many perils of Pedong Ganden Choling Monastery.

Compromise? Does the Police and the CTA knows what is HUMAN RIGHTS? Do they know what is the right way to protect their people?
How would they let ask the owner of a house to compromise to someone force in to the house? What kind of logic is that? 
This is so sad and heart breaking to see that Buddhist monks involved in such action. Buddhism is about peace and compassion. Why would the monks from Tharpa Choling do such an action that is breaking the precepts???!!!

We should share widely about this and let more people know about this so as to put pressure to CTA and the Tharpa Choling monks to stop their illegal action!

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Tenzin Malgyur on May 25, 2014, 03:36:47 AM
This is such distressing news. The monks in robes together with some lay people gate crashing into an important prayer ceremony and unlawfully claiming their rights to the property that they broke into. All this is taking place in India, who have very kindly played host to the Tibetans who have fled their own country. Now the Indian police have to move in to prevent the matter from escalating further, but there is little the police can do as it involves the CTA.
Besides, look at the example these monks are portraying to the whole world. The ban on Dorje Shugden have caused so much troubles and disturbances. Wonder how much longer before His Holiness Dalai Lama would put a stop to all these sufferings.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Freyr Aesiragnorak on May 25, 2014, 08:53:32 AM
Gosh this is truly distressing to say the least. I'm not sure if I could handle this if this were done to my own guru's Labrang or Gompa. What would drive the monks to do this to another labrang that belonged to the same great master in the past, claiming it as theirs? It is obviously due to the incessant fervour drummed up by supporters of the ban, and is truly distasteful and uncalled for. I wonder what Rinpoche's other labrangs or students think of this?
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: maricisun on May 25, 2014, 12:57:25 PM
So unethical and so distressing to know that monks break into another monk's Ladrang and occupy it as their own and the police are not doing anything about it?
Is this how the anti DS practitioners treating the loyal DS practitioners?
How would other monks think about this? Is this something shameful as well?
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: fruven on May 25, 2014, 02:44:24 PM
This is totally unacceptable, unethical and unlawful with no respect of others' property and rights. Forcing your way into another's person property and claiming ownership is tantamount to one is above the law of the land. If one has the right then one can pursue ownership through due process.

I can't imagine how much vows have been broken. Furthermore the actions of these monks will misrepresent the Buddha Dharma teachings to others especially the trust to they have on the holy sangha. When people lose trust there would be cut back on supporting the monasteries. It doesn't help the Tibetans as a whole.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: angelica on May 25, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
It is really unbelievable that monks can do this kind of things. It does not matter what religion you are, breaking into the premises of others and take over the place is illegal and unacceptable. It is against what Dalai Lama has been promoting Buddhism is, respecting other and living in harmony.

Even if DS practisioner is worshiping demons, there is no need to Ban their practice, cos if what they are doing is wrong, karma will take care of them. There is no need for Dalai Lama to worry about it too, cos no demon can harm a true dharma practitioner. The BAN on DS should be lifted and all this harm and violence to be stop.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: dsiluvu on May 27, 2014, 06:03:16 AM
What the latest news update?

Does anyone know the latest NEWS and outcome to this? Have the traitor monks left the Domo Geshe's property which they forcefully occupy??? What the latest news? Is everyone in the Labrang okay? Anyone know and can give us a follow up update please? I do hope those Tharpa Choling monks get arrested for their crimes... very SHAMEFUL for MONKS to do this!

Since you have went on your own separate ways from your Lama, and even recognise another Lama as your Lama, then why don't you start all over again with your "own" Domo Geshe Rinpoche... it would not be hard if it was genuine, no?  :P


Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: icy on May 27, 2014, 12:38:12 PM
This is the latest report in the video:

Two hundred Tibetans broke into a Shugden Monastery in India, destroying property and dragging out monks. Corrupt police officers gave no support to the Monastery.

In a telephone interview Mr Phubu Tshering, General Secretary of Samten Choeling Association, describes this recent attack on the Ganden Choling Monastery in Darjeeling.

The Dalai Lama and CTA have a lot to answer for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ea51sHgGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5ea51sHgGs)

Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Rihanna on May 27, 2014, 03:20:05 PM
What a sickening news! Monks breaking into monasteries??

The 7th Domo Geshe Rinpoche Ngawang Kalsang was so highly respected that upon meeting him, the 13th Dalai Lama declared that he had met Lama Tsongkhapa himself. And now during the time of the 14th Dalai Lama, his monks forced their way into Gaden Choling in Phedong and refused to leave. Oh My God! Does CTA realise what they have created out of the ban they imposed? Monsters and monks breaking their vows.

First they lost their country, then they were reduced to not just govt-in-exile but a mere central tibetan administration and now they are making their own monks break their vows by creating violence and forcefully taking over monasteries that do not belong to them. Besides the bad karma part of it, they are also giving Buddhism a bad name. Will CTA ever wake up and smell the coffee???
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: icy on May 27, 2014, 09:16:28 PM
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Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Vajra21 on May 29, 2014, 08:35:57 AM
For those who are not familiar with the lineage of the Domo Geshes and need further info on it:-

A prayer recounting the successive incarnations of the precious supreme nirmankaya the glorious and great being Gyalten Jigme Chokyi Wangchuk the reincarnation of Kyabje Domo Geshe Rinpoche Ngawang Kalsang the great being whose immense waves of bodhicitta ripened to spread the precious doctrine of the second Conqueror Lobsang Dragpa to far lands and whose name like a sweet melody became well known in India, China, Nepal, Tibet and Europe, was requested by the entire communities of his monasteries including Tharpacholing in Kalimpong. In accordance with this request, Kyabje Yongzin Trijang Rinpoche, Tutor of H.H. The Dalai Lama, in the Fire Sheep year (1967) in Dharamsala, composed the verse for the then Supreme Incarnation, Gyalten Jigme Chokyi Wangchuk and added it to the Condensed Golden Rosary Biographical prayer containing the names of Domo Geshe Rinpoche’s previous incarnations – a prayer authored (and spoken through an oracle) by Dulzin Dragpa Gyaltsen, the peaceful manifestation of Gyalchen Dorje Shugden.


                                        THE WONDERFUL GOLDEN ROSARY

                       A Prayer to the Incarnations of the Supreme Nirmankaya, Domo
                         Geshe Rinpoche, Peerless Ornament of the Genden Tradition


OM VASTI
I pray at the feet of the most kind Guru,
The wish-fulfilling gem who fulfills all hopes,
In whom are united the wisdom, compassion and power
Of all the infinite conquerors of the three times.

I pray to the play of the Dharmakaya -
The great bliss in union with the ultimate nature of reality-
That reveals whatever is remarkable,
Through emanating clouds of diverse illusory forms of inconceivable design,
To limitless beings in accordance with their capacity.

I pray to the shravaka Shariputra
Praised as the foremost among the wise [of Buddha’s disciples],
Who was attracted by the peaceful behavior of the Arhat Dadul,
And, by following the Buddha, conquered the defilements of the three worlds.

I pray to the Mahasiddha Gayadhara,
Who passed on the precious treasure of the teachings
On path and effect [sung.nga lam.dre] to the translator Drokmi,
And who illuminated the swift, esoteric path of mystical union [yuganaddha]

I pray to the elder, Dharmashri,
The most eloquent expounder of Dharma discourses,
To grace the Gandhola throne in the monastery called Singala [ in Bodh Gaya]
In the vast land of Magadha.

I pray at the feet of the master Munijnana,
Whose teachings spread the profound meaning of the Tripitaka
Throughout India among congregations
Of lay people, ascetics, scholars and monks.

I pray to Thonmi Sambhota, herald of the sun,
Who led the chariot of language and grammar
That beckoned the dawning of Buddha’s teachings,
Dispelling the darkness of ignorance in Tibet.

I pray at the feet of King Trisong Deutsen,
Who helped spread the Conqueror’s teaching to those of good fortune in Tibet,
By the great wave of his religious and political means
And by inviting the sun-like abbot [Shantarakshita] and the moon-like
Acharya [Padmasambhava]

I pray to the noble master Dromtonpa,
The spiritual son of the glorious Atisha Dipamkara,
Who, in a prophecy by the Buddha, was named Upasika Chopel,
And who opened and distinguished the Kadampa teaching tradition
endowed with seven divine aspects.

I pray at the feet of Zhepe Dorje,
The noble master Mila, a universal emperor among the siddhas of Tibet,
Who underwent great hardship in his single-pointed practice
And thereby attained the supreme union in one life.


I pray at the feet of Khedrup Choje Gelek Pal,
The glorious one, abounding in virtue, all-conquering and fearless,
He who defeated the arguments of his powerful, ignorant,evil opponents
With the lion’s roar of good explanations, well-reasoned debates,
And compositions.

I pray at the feet of Dragpa Gyaltsen,
Whose power of abandonment[of mental defilements] and realization
Reached fulfillment
Through tasting the essential nectar of teachings of Panchen Chogyen
[First Panchen Lama Losang Chokyi Gyaltsen]
He who generated the intention to guard and preserve the noble Genden tradition.

I pray at the feet of Geshe Ngawang Kalsang,
The incomparable spiritual master, who spread to the end of all directions
The supreme, faultless tradition of Conqueror Losang Drakpa,
By acting in the manner of the pure, liberating Kadampa tradition.

I pray at the feet of the Great Lord of Speech [Manjushri],
Gyalten Jigme Chokyi Wangchuk,
Who rejuvenates the supreme Dharma like life’s renewal in spring,
Through his fearless unequaled analyses
Of all the Conqueror’s teachings including the Sutras,
Tantras and commentaries.

I beseech you to manifest yourself continually
In wondrous infinite pure and impure emanations
According to the different kinds of dispositions, abilities
And longings of sentient beings
Until the illusory cycles of samsara are emptied.

Thus, by the force of this prayer offered with a clear and pure mind,
Throughout all my lives to come, may I never be separated from the holy Guru
And the essence of the vast and profound teachings;
May I partake insatiably of their abundant, magnificent splendor.

Whenever improper behavior, such as contempt, slander, reproach,
disrespect and wrong views, arises from evil,
May I cast all of it far away,
And by the force of properly serving the Guru with pure intentions and action,
May the root of all goodness be established.

Through the single-pointed practicing the step-like path of Sutra and Tantra-
The essential meaning of the eighty-four thousand teachings of the Buddha-
May I swiftly experience the realization of the ultimate
And attain the triple kaya of great bliss.

Above all may the holy Guru dwell among us
In the immutable nature of the swastika, continuously for hundreds of aeons,
And may his beneficial action of aiding others
Be unhindered and spontaneously accomplished in accordance with his wishes.

May the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden, fierce, versatile, in control
of the ten powers and emanated through proud, heroic dance of Manjushri-Yamantaka,
Not waver in guarding and protecting
All of us, the masters, disciples and the community.

                         **********************

        Courtesy:
                      ‘His Holiness Domo Geshe Rinpoche’ A Biographical Sketch by Dr.Ursula Bernis
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Vajra21 on May 29, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
PS. to previous post:
 
The late Dr.Ursula Bernis so aptly wrote in her profound tribute to the Domo Geshes,
 'If we are concerned about the continuity of the holy teachings, the time has now come to distinguish between those who invent their own personal histories to make them stand out among others and those who hide their good deeds while working ceaselessly to safeguard the Buddha’s true teachings. Now is the time to distinguish between those who seek to praise only themselves and those praiseworthy ones who only praise the Buddhas through their pure deeds’.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: Dondrup Shugden on January 25, 2015, 06:53:34 AM
Another evidence and proof of the discrimination and harm inflicted on Shugden worshippers.

Temples the most sacred of all buildings are destroyed.  Are the Anti Shugden people lead by CTA the real demons and bearers of suffering to others.

Interesting article to contemplate on and make your own observation as to who is the Demon.
Title: Re: BREAKING NEWS!!!
Post by: pgdharma on January 30, 2015, 04:27:26 PM
This is such distressing news!!! These monks have broken their vows and what they did is disgusting and makes Buddhism look bad.  No one has the right to trespass and take over what is not legally theirs. It is equivalent to stealing. The ban has created so many disharmony, hatred and fighting amongst sangha members. It is time that the ban is lifted!!!!