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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mana on March 24, 2012, 04:38:43 PM
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Dear Readers,
Phayul.com has been experiencing Distributed Denial-Of-Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack)) for the past few days because of which our website has been slow at times and even crashed on few occasions. We have been doing everything in our power to mitigate the attack.
We thank our readers for your continuous support and truly regret the inconvenience.
Sincerely,
Phayul Team
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There is a message of DDOS on phayul. DDOS means someone is attacking the website.. sending millions of hits so that the webserver crashes.
Who can it be? Too bad for them.
I wonder if someone will be doing the same to the official CTA website?
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Hahaha thats ace! Its their karma for slagging off every DS lama coming back to them. Gwan you lot, how much do you want to wager it was the Chinese? ;)
Guess the trolls on Phayul will have to find somewhere else to spread their bollox for the next week or so...
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Oh no. Too bad for the people at phayul. This karma thing is coming back on them, even through the cyber space. Karma does really exist.
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This really sounds like karma is catching back on them isn't it? It is really too bad this is happening to Phayul.com. I can imagine more negative karma will be happening to them if the DS ban is not lifted quickly. The universal law of cause and effect follows in whatever we do, no one is spared. The CTA should know this very well since they study under many great masters including the Dalai Lama. What is taught by these great lamas they should apply themselves and not just talk about it. LIFT THE DS BAN CTA!
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Very interesting. Let's see how this unfolds. Of course there is some aspect of karma involved in this. What intrigues me even more is who is doing this to them! Well whoever it is, let us see whether they are successful or not, I wonder what their agenda is. I hope it is a good one
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Karma on the cyberspace?
I remember there used to be a very huge, arguable the largest online buddhist forum called e-sangha a few years ago, but it was a very biased forum with strong anti-DS sentiment by most if not all of the moderators.
A lot of lies and schism were created there and misguided a lot of new people about Dorje Shugden, then one day, I guess it is really karma, it just crashed, and never recovered again, it has been years, and I guess it never will.
So beware, karma is working even in cyberspace, speech is speech, no matter you write it with a pen or type it with keyboard.
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You know I shouldn't be rejoicing for such things but I am. I can't help feeling happy that an avenue for many people to propagate wrong views on Dorje Shugden is down. I doubt that it is practitioners of Dorje Shugden is doing that either.
I am sure, it is not only the practitioners of Dorje Shugden that have been sidelined, slandered and ill-treated by many users of this forum. Instead of a platform to spread Buddhism, understanding and spirituality, it was a platform to voice hate, sectarianism and bigotry. Hence, that's why you see many people here thinks it was their own karma coming back.
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no offence but the amount of time and effort gone into the forum is enthralling for the objective for a spiritual forum such as this is so small. It is petty and most of the time it feels like a graveyard there! No offence to be bitchy in any way but it is what I think it is and I will think that its technical support is very poor and backward too, otherwise why would it always and constantly face this same ordeal every few months?
Cyber Karma? You don't say.... I wouldn't deny one single bit of it! With the amount of negative propaganda defaming anything that the site is not agreeable of but is in line with the Buddhist thought is definitely negative karma, what else would it be if it is not the wheel of sharp weapons coming back to them?
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OH this is awesome! Karma right back at cha!?!
This website does nothing but create huge amounts of schism, discrimination and definitely nothing Buddhist. If there is any website getting hacked, this is the one. What a huge slap in the face for phayul... they have done nothing much to change the world and definitely not much in educating. So much lies and discrimination and a whole lot of bull is what u get from this forum... it is no surprise that they have created their own karma to be hacked! Lets hope it stays shut!!!
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ok, as of now,, phayul.com is back online again.
have they learnt their lesson? ;)
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but the Phayul forum is still down right? I just checked and it appeared so.
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I just accessed phayul and apparently their main site is still up but it appears that they have removed the forum section of the website (or perhaps, someone else did it for them? :) ) but I am glad that it is because there was nothing constructive in the forums anyway. It was just arguments after arguments and endless banter and pointless messages. In short, it is a waste of time.
many people think that they can get away with anything at all in cyberspace because it is the internet and since nobody really sees or knows who they really are they think that they can make whatever comments they want and get away with it. That is not so with the law of karma. They cannot get away with it that easily at all. The moderators and site owners will also get bad karma as they allow this sort of shit to happen.
Even if karma does not ripen, the Dharma protectors will also kick in and cause the website to never come up again. This is what happened with esangha, the largest buddhist forum online back in the day but they spread a lot of biased and sectarian misinformation about lineages that do not please them and it turned out to be a full-blown inquisition and crusade against buddhist schools who did not conform to what they think is buddhism (even if it was authentic) and eventually, something happened, it went down and it could never get back up again.
Now it is phayul's turn for trolling against Dorje Shugden practitioners, for whatever reason they have, perhaps they were hired by the CTA to do such things but it does not mean that they do not get the karma. Phayul's time has ended in spreading misinformation against Buddhist teachers and Dorje Shugden…and pretty soon other anti Dorje Shugden websites will also suffer a similar fate.
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Karma's a bitch ;D
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My hunch is Phayul.com will continue their direction after their website is up. I don't think they will change their stand point just becasue of a DOS attack on their website.
Will see......I know I should not be rejoicing at the crash of someone's website, but I stole a giggle from inside my heart. ;)
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Even though Phayul was set up to promote Tibetan Independence Tibetan Exiles in India, it got it self dragged and allowed the discussions of various topics "Tibetan" including about the issue of Dorje Shugden. It is the claim by the Dalai Lama that propitiating the Protector will negatively affect the independence of Tibet that this topic is "relevant". Its stand was obviously against Dorje Shugden and hence, we can say the negative Karma generated is tremendous.
However, I don't think a website has Karma by itself but the people running it has. The DOS of the site is from the karma of the people running it.
On a more worldly point of view, it can be equated to a cyber war, where we have 3 million Tibetans plus supporters on one side (3 million in China) and 1.3 billion Chinese plus overseas Chinese (40 mil) plus supporters on the others. You do the math.
It is a losing battle, I am sorry to say. If the Chinese gives independence to the TIbetans, there will be absolute anarchy in China, with 55 ethnic groups, each can claim independence. Chiiling!
Good Luck to you, Phayul!
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As the saying goes "you reap what you sow". In this case, too bad, Phayul, your negative karma is catching up on you. This is a big slap to the face of Phayul. I wonder who is doing that. If nothing is done for the lifting of the ban, more negative karma may arise and I think the same will happen for CTA website too. Let us use the cyber space to spread the truth and understanding instead of slandering, and spreading lies about Dorje Shugden.
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Even though Phayul was set up to promote Tibetan Independence Tibetan Exiles in India, it got it self dragged and allowed the discussions of various topics "Tibetan" including about the issue of Dorje Shugden. It is the claim by the Dalai Lama that propitiating the Protector will negatively affect the independence of Tibet that this topic is "relevant". Its stand was obviously against Dorje Shugden and hence, we can say the negative Karma generated is tremendous.
However, I don't think a website has Karma by itself but the people running it has. The DOS of the site is from the karma of the people running it.
On a more worldly point of view, it can be equated to a cyber war, where we have 3 million Tibetans plus supporters on one side (3 million in China) and 1.3 billion Chinese plus overseas Chinese (40 mil) plus supporters on the others. You do the math.
It is a losing battle, I am sorry to say. If the Chinese gives independence to the TIbetans, there will be absolute anarchy in China, with 55 ethnic groups, each can claim independence. Chiiling!
Good Luck to you, Phayul!
Sorry but what independence? that forum is unfortunately, full of smack. Members were insulting each other in very childish and archaic ways that even a 5 year old child would find childish. Name calling and insulting each other's parents, cyberstalking and all kinds of shit was allowed on those forums. There was little or no meaningful discussions anywhere whatsoever on those forums.
And then, there's moose. I wonder how is he doing. He lost his grazing ground where he could openly attack any Lama that was mentioned on phayul. Life must be very boring now for him! I don't see him around here or anywhere…hmm i wonder why…is it because he knows that he knows nothing? I am still quite amused to see that the moderators there allow him to go on a rampage against a lot of high and well known Lamas. well done!!! You won the internets!
In general, I don't feel that the forum was well maintained in the first place. The fact that the moderators could not care less of what was happening in the forum or what would happen shows that they are not exactly educated or smart in the first place because a forum that is not well managed in the samsaric world becomes a target for lawsuits when misinformation is spread. From a spiritual level, it generates unbelievable amounts of bad karma.
I'd say that it is good riddance that the forum is down. From the looks of it, I don't believe that phayul would miss their forum at all. It would be less work for the mods. Perhaps that is what they are aiming? In that case, why not take it down earlier because it is nothing but a showcase of how backward and childish the people there are.
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I was told that Phayul has got a forum which has a lot of visitor, but the moderators are very biased, and their forum has been down for many years, then it was later restored. So I decided to go take a look on their forum: http://forums2.phayul.com/ (http://forums2.phayul.com/)
However, the forum is down. I am not sure if that has anything to do with the DDOS attack.
As such, I am yet to see how biased are they. :)
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talk about karma~
Side-effects of DDOS attack
Small packets The most common side effect is the impact of huge numbers of small packets to be
handled by inline network or security devices. Depending on functionalities implemented on such devices, forwarding a packet from one interface to another may need several operations. A simple router must make a decision according to its routing table. In case of packet filtering operations, layer 4 headers must be checked to validate filters. Stateful inspection adds complexity as it is needed to check session tables. Last application layer devices such as reverse proxy must handle the packet at layer 7. Some other operations such as packet mangling or NAT requires even more processing as the packet has to be rewritten and several checksums recalculated.
The effect of small packets can be easily described with figures. On average, a device specified to handle a specific bandwidth will hardly provide a throughput of more than 10 percent of announced performances when dealing with 64 byte packets. Any attack relying on packets smaller that 100 bytes may first bring router and firewalls down instead of only impacting the target server.
Uplink flooding Another common side-effect is the flooding of links on the path to the target.
Requests and packets sent by the attacker rarely generate enough traffic to fill up the links. However, responses from the target usually add considerably the traffic. A basic example is that of a SYNFlood. A SYN packet of 64 bytes causes the target to generate 3 SYN-ACK (due to retransmission attempts). This kind of effect is even more efficient in the case of application-based attacks. A simple HTTP request is usually around 200 bytes when the data sent back to the client is usually around 10.000 bytes.
In “one-to-one” attacks it is essential that the response from the server doesn’t make its way to the attacker, as this would eventually also flood the attacker’s link. In
such case, it is necessary for spoofing to be possible and easy to perform. UDP based applications are perfectly suitable for generating such effects. This is particularly simple to demonstrate in the case of DNS floods (see logical weaknesses / operation mode). Without any consideration of requests to TLD and SOA (which again, increases the traffic through target Internet link), a request for MX records on an important domain will provide an interesting multiplication factor to the original request volume.
# dig radware.com mx
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Request: 71 bytes Answer: 551 bytes Multiplication factor = 73?These side effects are to be considered as a major concern, especially in a shared infrastructure where an attack targeted at a single server may impact dozens of systems relying on the same infrastructure as the original target.
what else ??? ???
If found guilty, the attackers could face a maximum sentence of six years in jail. 8)
by Graham Cluley on May 9, 2012
Two teenagers have been arrested in Norway in connection with a series of distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks against websites in the country, and elsewhere around the world.
Norway's National Criminal Investigation Service (NCIS) has refused to go into much detail of which websites were targeted by the attacks, but news reports have suggested that victims are believed to include the Norwegian Lottery, the Norwegian Police Security Service, the Norwegian bank DNB, Germany's Bild Magazine, and the UK's Serious Organised Crime Agency (SOCA).
SOCA was hit by a high profile denial-of-service attack last week, preventing internet users from reaching it.
The motivation for the attacks is presently unclear.
The arrested teenagers, who have not been named, are aged 18 and 19 years, and are said to have launched the attacks over a period lasting "several weeks", flooding websites with unwanted traffic to such an extent that legitimate visitors would find them inaccessible. In simple terms, a DDoS attack is the equivalent of "15 fat men trying to get through a revolving door at the same time" - nothing can move.
If found guilty, the teenagers could face a maximum sentence of six years in jail.
Once again, it seems worth reminding computer users that participating in a denial-of-service attack is against the law, and is not viewed leniently by the authorities.