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About Dorje Shugden => General Discussion => Topic started by: LosangKhyentse on July 22, 2010, 12:53:24 AM
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His Holiness the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is currently in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. He has travelled there to offer gold on the body image of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He will remain there for 5 days.
The number of disciples to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in China and Kham are growing now. I will not indicate specifically where in order that Pabongka Rinpoche's dharma intentions grow without disruption and he may be safe always.
TK
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Well looks like this Great Tulku has turned out right and doing dharma activities up till now. :)
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Well looks like this Great Tulku has turned out right and doing dharma activities up till now. :)
seems like it.
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For Pabongkaba Rinpoche Flourishing the Dharma is embedded within his Nature Now and Forever!
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!! ;)
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His Holiness the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is currently in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. He has travelled there to offer gold on the body image of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He will remain there for 5 days.
The number of disciples to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in China and Kham are growing now. I will not indicate specifically where in order that Pabongka Rinpoche's dharma intentions grow without disruption and he may be safe always.
TK
Hi TK,
Do u know what is the name of Denma Gongsa Rinpoche's monastery in tibet?
have tried Googling but to no avail
thanks
H1N1
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from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pabongka_Rinpoche
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Kyabje Zong Rinpoche also explained the importance for Gelugpas of developing faith in the Gelugpa lineage passed down through Je Phabongkhapa and his principal disciple Trijang Rinpoche:
'Kyabje Phabongka passed all of his lineages to Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang.
He often said this in discourses.
The purpose of this detailed exposition is to affirm the power of the lineage.
If we lose faith in the lineage, we are lost.
We should remember the biographies of past and present teachers.
We should never develop negative thoughts towards our root and lineage gurus.
If we do not keep the commitments after having received teachings, this is a great downfall.'
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I rejoyce in the powerful activities of the many high lamas spreading the Lamrim with skillful means and with sincere and pure motivation. The high lamas of the past, the high lamas of the present and the high lamas of the future.
And I rejoyce in the work of the current incarnation of Pabongka Rinpoche, may many benefit from it.
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Great beings like Pabongka who take rebirth again and again really give me so much hope. This incarnation line is very special. :)
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When I read the biography of HH Pabongka Rinpoche (1878 to 1941) I was deeply impressed that such a wonderful attained being existed. His ways of teaching was what amazed me most and because of his skillful ways of teachings the Dharma many people of his time were touched and benefited.
"...He was unique in his ability to bring the complex ancient teachings to the monks as well as to the laypeople’s level of comprehension. Hence, it is through him that a great number of lay people were able to learn and benefit from the Dharma. For this reason, he was known as the teacher for the common man and the monks. Similar to Buddha Shakyamuni who taught an enormous variety of people about 2,500 years ago, Pabongka Rinpoche did not teach from some predetermined syllabus. Instead, he taught according to the spiritual needs of the listeners. His influential teachings, coupled with his powerful way of conveying the Dharma made him a respected spiritual figure of his day." quoted from His Holiness Pabongka Rinpoche’s Biography; http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3965
My understanding of reincarnations is that the mindstream is the same as such I rejoice the current incarnation of this lineage continues to turn the Wheel of Dharma. I look forward to when this DS ban is lifted or fades that HH Pabongka Rinpoche's can further flourish wide and far with greater speed.
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His Holiness the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is currently in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. He has travelled there to offer gold on the body image of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He will remain there for 5 days.
The number of disciples to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in China and Kham are growing now. I will not indicate specifically where in order that Pabongka Rinpoche's dharma intentions grow without disruption and he may be safe always.
TK
Thank you so much TK. I found this article very inspiring as it reminds me that tulkus will never give up benefitting people no matter what their condition or situation is. Tulkus do exist and they do not give up whenever things get though and they just try harder. It is a well known fact that Pabongkha Rinpoche is suppressed by CTA because his popularity eclipses theirs ever since the first reincarnation manifested. No ban or no country or no politics can stop a real tulku from manifesting and benefitting others. This to me, represents the power of Dharma and how much it can stabilize our mind. I find it quite incredible, amazing and inspiring to read about how tulkus press on to benefit others irregardless of their conditions.
May I be able to benefit beings the way Pabongkha Rinpoche did.
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Rejoice! This is such a great news! May this reincarnation of HH Pabongkha Rinpoche lives long and spread the teachings of Je Tsongkhapa like wild fire.
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His Holiness the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is currently in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. He has travelled there to offer gold on the body image of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He will remain there for 5 days.
The number of disciples to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in China and Kham are growing now. I will not indicate specifically where in order that Pabongka Rinpoche's dharma intentions grow without disruption and he may be safe always.
TK
Thank you so much TK. I found this article very inspiring as it reminds me that tulkus will never give up benefitting people no matter what their condition or situation is. Tulkus do exist and they do not give up whenever things get though and they just try harder. It is a well known fact that Pabongkha Rinpoche is suppressed by CTA because his popularity eclipses theirs ever since the first reincarnation manifested. No ban or no country or no politics can stop a real tulku from manifesting and benefitting others. This to me, represents the power of Dharma and how much it can stabilize our mind. I find it quite incredible, amazing and inspiring to read about how tulkus press on to benefit others irregardless of their conditions.
May I be able to benefit beings the way Pabongkha Rinpoche did.
Excellent news that Pabongkha Rinpoche is well and thriving among sentient beings today especially in China. If there is any where in the world to spread a strong force of Dharma warriors, especially Dorje Shugden practitioners, it would be China.
China's influence around the world has grown tremendously, and is one of the major players on the world's market, even eclipsing the US. With 1.3billion people and Buddhism as the predominant religion there, it is no wonder that Pabongkha Rinpoche has made his base in China. The money, the resources and the people can all be found in China.
Imagine, Trijang Rinpoche in the West, Pabongkha Rinpoche in the East. When the ban comes down, and damn right it will, Shugden will just explode across the globe! It is just a pity that now, both great lamas have to remain low key to stay safe. Even then, they are still benefitting sentient beings where ever they are, as they have achieved in all their past incarnations.
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Synchronized timing is essential in daily operations, sports and even in dharma especially so to proliferate the practice of Dorje Shugden. The great masters are choreographing their moves to bring the final curtain down. For now I see the temporary controversy and I eagerly wait for the day when anybody can do the practice openly without any fear and persecution. I wonder if the politics in other worlds and dimensions of existence where Dorje Shugden emanates is similar on earth.
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This is a timely post,as the controversy rages over whether Dorje Shugden is a spirit or not and whether the ban, by HH Dalai Lama, on the worship of Shugden (being founded on this reason - of his being a spirit) is justified or not .
If the ban being imposed on Shugden practice were justified, then the great master Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche - who authored 'Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand' and who collected the teachings of all Sutra and Tantra of the Gelug(Je Tsongkapa's) Lineage to pass on to his heart son Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche so that they would not be lost to posterity with the fall of Tibet to the Chinese - had been worshipping a spirit and all these teachings and practices of the Gelug Lineage would be so tainted as to render them ineffective without blessings and power.
The fact that Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche has emanated again because of his great compassion to benefit all beings, shows that Dorje Shugden is NOT A SPIRIT but A BUDDHA AND A SUPRAMUNDANE DHARMA PROTECTOR. If Dorje Shugden were a spirit, then Pabongka Rinpoche would now be roasting in the fires of hell. His emanation or Tulku would not have manifested.
It is heartening to know that , despite the efforts of anti-Shugdenists to suppress him and despite the constant threat to his safety from them, the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche has been tirelessly working to spread the Dharma in China and in Kham. He is currently visiting the monastery of a great master Denma Gonsar Rinpoche, who is himself deeply devoted to Dorje Shugden. Another piece of evidence to show that Dorje Shugden is not a spirit is that this great Shugden practitioner's incarnation has also manifested.
China will surely embrace the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche as his previous incarnation is in the "bad books" of HH Dalai Lama on account of his strong support and spread of Shugden practice. Indeed, it was the previous Pabongka Rinpoche, who had received the whole practice of Shugden from his Guru Tagpu Rinpoche; the latter had in turn received it directly from the King Protector in Gaden Heaven. Pabongka Rinpoche had tirelessly spread Shugden practice as he worked relentlessly(at the same time) to grow and spread Je Tsongkapa/the Gelug Lineage of teachings and practice.
Thus, we see here how enlightened beings are 'working together' to promote the Dharma and the Protector of that Dharma .Though, we still do not understand all this from our ordinary view of things.
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His Holiness the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is currently in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. He has travelled there to offer gold on the body image of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He will remain there for 5 days.
The number of disciples to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in China and Kham are growing now. I will not indicate specifically where in order that Pabongka Rinpoche's dharma intentions grow without disruption and he may be safe always.
TK
I rejoice in this. Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is the most important Lama in the current age. Most eminent Gelug Lamas comes from his lineage. Morever, the spread and popularity of the Protector can also be attributed directly to him. Without him, we would most likely not have the practice. His current incarnation is working tireless to spread Dharma albeit very low profile. I am very sure the results would be great. Perhaps the time is not yet right for him to go high profile. Whatever the case, I rejoice.
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His Holiness the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is currently in Denma Gonsa Rinpoche's Monastery in Tibet. He has travelled there to offer gold on the body image of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. He will remain there for 5 days.
The number of disciples to Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in China and Kham are growing now. I will not indicate specifically where in order that Pabongka Rinpoche's dharma intentions grow without disruption and he may be safe always.
TK
I really love this photo of Pabongka Rinpoche here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pabongka_Rinpoche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pabongka_Rinpoche) Such a peace generated from him. I have heard some stories about the current reincarnation of Pabongka Rinpoche but those do not seem to be verified.
Due to security issues, the current Pabongka's details needs to be kept secret, and this is such a shame... I pray that the Dorje Shugden ban can be lifted very soon and great masters such as Pabongka Rinpoche can openly propagate Dorje Shugden practices.
I have read my articles in this website and the information here are very accurate (and juicy too). Keep up the good work!!
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Is there any more news of the young Pabongkha Rinpoche since this post in 2010? How old is he now? I tried googling for more information but I could not find any. While I can understand a clamp down on information due to security reasons, I am surprised that information about such a respected incarnation is kept so quiet. If Pabongkha Rinpoche is now a persona non grata, surely there would be a movement against that popular Dharma text, ‘Liberation in the palm of your hand’ and Pabongkha Rinpoche’s other activities?
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Rejoice to see the news that Pabongka Rinpoche and Denma Gonsa Rinpoche are reincarnated again. This clearly proved that those who are practicing Dorje Shugden are not worshiping spirits. However, I am sad to see that due to this ban, Pabongka Rinpoche and Denma Gonsa Rinpoche’s current incarnation are not able to teach openly. It is such a lost as their teaching will sure benefit a lot of people.
Previous Pabongka Rinpoche was well known to teach Dharma to lay people. He was the holder of both Tantra and Sutra. He was the Guru of Gurus. His disciples include great masters such as Trijang Rinpoche, Ling Rinpoche, Tathag Rinpoche, and Khangsar Rinpoche and Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. Tathag Rinpoche was the main teacher of the 14th HHDL and gave him his novice ordination while Trijang Rinoche and Ling Rinpoche were tutors to the 14th HHDL. Besides, without him, we would not have the sacred text “Liberation in the palm of your hand”. (Please refer to his biography: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/hh-pabongka-rinpoches-biography/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/great-masters/recent-masters/hh-pabongka-rinpoches-biography/))
Denma Rinpoche is a senior student of both Pabongka Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche. He has also transmitted the pure teachings to his district people and 600 monks of his monastery. In his monastery, we can also see the world’s largest Dorje Shugden Statues. Dorje Shudgen is also the main Dharma Protector of this monastery and in Kham. There are some wonderful videos on Dorje Shudgen produced by Denma Gonsa Rinpoche’s monastery can be found here:
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/places/monastery-with-dorje-shugden-in-kham/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/places/monastery-with-dorje-shugden-in-kham/)
I wish both Pabongka Rinpoche and Denma Gonsa Rinpoche safe and well. May the ban be lifted soonest so that more can have the chance to be blessed both these great Guru.
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This is such a beautiful post. Does anyone know where HH Pabongka Rinpoche is now? Any news?
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I am so grateful to have met Je Pabongka once, he was very unassuming but I feel so fortunate to be in his presence I was in Heruka's presence and I did not even know it :P.
Cant wait for Je Pabongka to come into greater prominence in China, as China is the next country of growth of the Buddha Dharma as China becomes more affluent and influences more social problems within its own boundaries.
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It is so sad to read that the reincarnation of such a highly attained being is back here on earth but have to live in seclusion due to threat to his well being. On the other hand, I am glad to note that HH Pabongka Rinpoche is having a growing number of disciples in China and he is continuing the works of his previous lives. May this current conditions change for the better and His Holiness will be able to teach openly and benefit many more people just as his previous life had benefitted so many monks and lay people.
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It is so sad to read that the reincarnation of such a highly attained being is back here on earth but have to live in seclusion due to threat to his well being. On the other hand, I am glad to note that HH Pabongka Rinpoche is having a growing number of disciples in China and he is continuing the works of his previous lives. May this current conditions change for the better and His Holiness will be able to teach openly and benefit many more people just as his previous life had benefitted so many monks and lay people.
A sadder thing to note here is that harm towards this holy incarnation is prone to him is not from external forces or people from other faiths or beliefs but from Tibetan Buddhists themselves!
I was just thinking to myself, if HH Pabongkha Choktrul Rinpoche and Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche is a normal person, keeping himself low would mean that he is indeed in trouble but if HH Pabongkha Rinpoche is who he is - an enlightened being, keeping himself low would mean keeping us SAFE!!! That only means we're in danger of losing an enlightened being from the face of this earth!
so people on the forum and especially those reading in silence, please wake up!
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It is so sad to read that the reincarnation of such a highly attained being is back here on earth but have to live in seclusion due to threat to his well being. On the other hand, I am glad to note that HH Pabongka Rinpoche is having a growing number of disciples in China and he is continuing the works of his previous lives. May this current conditions change for the better and His Holiness will be able to teach openly and benefit many more people just as his previous life had benefitted so many monks and lay people.
I heard that recently, the current Pabongkha Rinpoche has been making many trips to China and has been teaching there for quite sometime. It is okay if the CTA does not want Pabongkha Rinpoche because the Chinese certainly do and they do appreciate his presence a lot. CTA should really wake up to the fact and reality that their little games and ploys and bans does not work everywhere. There are still many countries and people who would not listen to CTA and help and assist Pabongkha Rinpoche to doing what he has to do: Dharma work. Pabongkha Rinpoche will be able to benefit many more people in the future, whether or not the ban is lifted or not simply because he can and he has done it before. This applies to Trijang Rinpoche as well. CTA will eventually have to accept him again as Lineage Guru because they will soon realize that whatever practice that they are doing will not bring any effect unless they seek forgiveness from Pabongkha Rinpoche and Trijang Rinpoche, including whatever they are doing to help Tibet regain their independence.
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Long Life Pabongka Rinpoche! May your Dharma work flourish forever more.
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Is there any more news of the young Pabongkha Rinpoche since this post in 2010? How old is he now? I tried googling for more information but I could not find any. While I can understand a clamp down on information due to security reasons, I am surprised that information about such a respected incarnation is kept so quiet. If Pabongkha Rinpoche is now a persona non grata, surely there would be a movement against that popular Dharma text, ‘Liberation in the palm of your hand’ and Pabongkha Rinpoche’s other activities?
There is not much news about the current Pabongkha Rinpoche because he is keeping a low presence as the CTA is not very happy about him. But one thing for sure that I have heard is that he is giving teachings in China. What CTA blocks, China will take with open arms and it is CTA's loss again for them to turn away such a high and erudite Lama from themselves.