Comments on: Why Dorje Shugden practitioners are NOT CHINESE SPIES https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/ The Protector whose time has come Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:50:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Camillia https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/comment-page-1/#comment-206245 Camillia Sat, 26 Nov 2016 08:33:49 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4077#comment-206245 I cannot agree more! This accusation is insulting to both Dorje Shugden practice and the party who give out the money - how dump can it be, to just give out money to the millions people just because they practice Dorje Shugden which has nothing to do, or yield any benefits for the party who are paying. It is equally insulting to Dorje Shugden practice which was practiced hundred of years by credible, erudite and respected lamas of the Tibetan community. I cannot agree more!

This accusation is insulting to both Dorje Shugden practice and the party who give out the money – how dump can it be, to just give out money to the millions people just because they practice Dorje Shugden which has nothing to do, or yield any benefits for the party who are paying.

It is equally insulting to Dorje Shugden practice which was practiced hundred of years by credible, erudite and respected lamas of the Tibetan community.

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By: Tenzin N. https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/comment-page-1/#comment-200558 Tenzin N. Sat, 07 Feb 2015 21:24:26 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4077#comment-200558 but why are ds practicioners demonstrate infront of halls where H.h. The Dalai Lama holds teachings? What do they gain in doing this? I wished both side would stop all actions against each other, as this has nothing to do witha being buddhists. Instead of sticking together we are a bunch of lost people. Bhod rangzen but why are ds practicioners demonstrate infront of halls where H.h. The Dalai Lama holds teachings? What do they gain in doing this? I wished both side would stop all actions against each other, as this has nothing to do witha being buddhists. Instead of sticking together we are a bunch of lost people.
Bhod rangzen

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By: Steve Rogers https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/comment-page-1/#comment-197773 Steve Rogers Sun, 26 Oct 2014 08:42:18 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4077#comment-197773 The Dalai Lama's government have had contact with China for hundreds of years. They have always worked in concert with China. Even when the Communists took over, it was the 14th Dalai Lama and his administration who had the most access to the Chinese government, not anyone else. They are always talking to a mirror when they make these crazy accusations. The Dalai Lama’s government have had contact with China for hundreds of years. They have always worked in concert with China. Even when the Communists took over, it was the 14th Dalai Lama and his administration who had the most access to the Chinese government, not anyone else. They are always talking to a mirror when they make these crazy accusations.

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By: BlueUpali https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/comment-page-1/#comment-197770 BlueUpali Sun, 26 Oct 2014 03:04:41 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4077#comment-197770 When it's a blatent lie without a sred of proof (which the CTA people have never produced) then it points to their political weakness.... Shugden is and was a popular practice, as it helps arrange the best conditions for Bodhichitta, for compassion and wisdom to arise in our minds and for us to have realizations. So, the Dalai and CTA, they don't have much to go on, on why we shouldn't be doing this, because Dalai he worships any spirit that comes his way (Nechung) and is cool with the Bon (which has some spirit worship) but he just doesn't like Shugden, who happens to be a Buddha that very much more important lamas than he, such as Trijang and Zong Rinpoches propitiated/propriate (in the case of Trijang Rinpoche). SO what can he do to get people not to listen to better lamas than he? He can downplay them, saying that Trijang Rinpoche just taught him his letters or something and he can pretend like we are all funded by China. It's a good point in the article, how many people would China need to pay, then? The truth is with the Shugden controversy that the Dalai Lama makes himself look bad--- China really doesn't have to do anything-- because the Dalai has no logic on this issue and has manifested no compassion. When it’s a blatent lie without a sred of proof (which the CTA people have never produced) then it points to their political weakness…. Shugden is and was a popular practice, as it helps arrange the best conditions for Bodhichitta, for compassion and wisdom to arise in our minds and for us to have realizations. So, the Dalai and CTA, they don’t have much to go on, on why we shouldn’t be doing this, because Dalai he worships any spirit that comes his way (Nechung) and is cool with the Bon (which has some spirit worship) but he just doesn’t like Shugden, who happens to be a Buddha that very much more important lamas than he, such as Trijang and Zong Rinpoches propitiated/propriate (in the case of Trijang Rinpoche). SO what can he do to get people not to listen to better lamas than he? He can downplay them, saying that Trijang Rinpoche just taught him his letters or something and he can pretend like we are all funded by China. It’s a good point in the article, how many people would China need to pay, then?
The truth is with the Shugden controversy that the Dalai Lama makes himself look bad— China really doesn’t have to do anything– because the Dalai has no logic on this issue and has manifested no compassion.

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By: Arisa https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/comment-page-1/#comment-15908 Arisa Sun, 23 Jan 2011 08:41:04 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4077#comment-15908 Not logical if we say that Dorje Shugden practitioners are Chinese spies. Why should China be involved with these issues when China considers as very small. If China wants to spy on anything they might as well use it for bigger and secret projects instead of wasting time on Tibetan political issues. Why should the Chinese spend money for the Tibetan practitioners to spy for them. When the money can be used for a better cause. Chinese are believed to be very wise where money is concerned. Thus is another way for the Tibetan Government to blame the Dorje Shugden Practitioners. Not logical if we say that Dorje Shugden practitioners are Chinese spies. Why should China be involved with these issues when China considers as very small. If China wants to spy on anything they might as well use it for bigger and secret projects instead of wasting time on Tibetan political issues. Why should the Chinese spend money for the Tibetan practitioners to spy for them. When the money can be used for a better cause. Chinese are believed to be very wise where money is concerned. Thus is another way for the Tibetan Government to blame the Dorje Shugden Practitioners.

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By: kurava https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/why-dorje-shugden-practitioners-are-not-chinese-spies/comment-page-1/#comment-15159 kurava Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:42:15 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=4077#comment-15159 I totally agree with you, Honeydakini. There are hundreds of thousands people in China who barely earn enough to keep their stomachs full each day. If by practicing Dorje Shugden can ensure them money and food, there would be millions of DS practitioners in China now ! The HHDL supporters have grossly over estimated DL's importance to the Chinese. Believe you me, the Chinese Government has many more important issues to tackle and more urgent causes for them to spend their Reminbi than bribing the DS practitioners to get rid of HHDL. Oh please....... I totally agree with you, Honeydakini.

There are hundreds of thousands people in China who barely earn enough to keep their stomachs full each day. If by practicing Dorje Shugden can ensure them money and food, there would be millions of DS practitioners in China now !

The HHDL supporters have grossly over estimated DL’s importance to the Chinese. Believe you me, the Chinese Government has many more important issues to tackle and more urgent causes for them to spend their Reminbi than bribing the DS practitioners to get rid of HHDL. Oh please…….

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