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		<title>By: Dalai Lama should set things right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalai Lama should set things right</dc:creator>
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		<description>Dear Dalai Lama,

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.&lt;/font&gt; They don&#039;t speak out not because they don&#039;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There is no harmony.&lt;/font&gt; Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.&lt;/font&gt; You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.&lt;/font&gt;

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.&lt;/font&gt; Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.&lt;/font&gt; Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

&lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.&lt;/font&gt; There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.&lt;/font&gt; All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.&lt;/font&gt; Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dalai Lama,</p>
<p>Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.</font> They don&#8217;t speak out not because they don&#8217;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There is no harmony.</font> Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.</p>
<p>By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.</p>
<p>It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.</font> You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.</p>
<p>Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.</font></p>
<p>You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.</font> Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.</font> Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.</p>
<p>No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.</p>
<p><font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.</font> There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.</p>
<p>You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.</p>
<p>After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.</p>
<p>Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.</font> All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.</p>
<p>The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.</font> Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.</p>
<p>Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Lhakpa Dhendup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lhakpa Dhendup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;What will the all the people around the world and in Tibet do now? Dalai Lama says he is happy that Tibet is a part of China and should remain a part of China. So many Tibetans self-immolated for Tibet to be independent and now Dalai Lama did a 360 degree turn and says he wants to go back to Tibet and China and Tibet should be a part of China. So unbelievable. So many are angry and disappointed.
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&lt;q&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;Tibetans ready to be part of China: Dalai Lama&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
Organised by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), the event was a part of &quot;Thank You India - 2018&quot; held by the Tibetan community across India to mark 60 years of its exile in the country.
Indo-Asian News Service
Bengaluru
Tibetans are ready to be a part of China if guaranteed full rights to preserve their culture, the Dalai Lama said on Friday.
&quot;Tibetans are not asking for independence. We are okay with remaining with the People&#039;s Republic of China, provided we have full rights to preserve our culture,&quot; the 83-year-old spiritual leader said at &quot;Thank You Karnataka&quot; event here in the city.
Organised by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), the event was a part of &quot;Thank You India - 2018&quot; held by the Tibetan community across India to mark 60 years of its exile in the country.
&quot;Several of Chinese citizens practicing Buddhism are keen on Tibetan Buddhism as it is considered scientific,&quot; the Nobel laureate said.
Born in Taktser hamlet in northeastern Tibet, the Dalai Lama was recognized at the age of two as the reincarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama, Thubten Gyatso. He fled to India from Tibet after a failed uprising against the Chinese rule in 1959.
China annexed Tibet in 1950, forcing thousands of Tibetans, including monks, to flee the mountain country and settle in India as refugees.
Since then, India has been home to over 100,000 Tibetans majorly settled in Karnataka, Himachal Pradesh among other states.
https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/india/tibetans-ready-to-be-part-of-china-dalai-lama/293109.html&lt;/q&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>What will the all the people around the world and in Tibet do now? Dalai Lama says he is happy that Tibet is a part of China and should remain a part of China. So many Tibetans self-immolated for Tibet to be independent and now Dalai Lama did a 360 degree turn and says he wants to go back to Tibet and China and Tibet should be a part of China. So unbelievable. So many are angry and disappointed.<br />
</b><br />
<q><b><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red">Tibetans ready to be part of China: Dalai Lama</span></b><br />
Organised by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), the event was a part of &#8220;Thank You India &#8211; 2018&#8243; held by the Tibetan community across India to mark 60 years of its exile in the country.<br />
Indo-Asian News Service<br />
Bengaluru<br />
Tibetans are ready to be a part of China if guaranteed full rights to preserve their culture, the Dalai Lama said on Friday.<br />
&#8220;Tibetans are not asking for independence. We are okay with remaining with the People&#8217;s Republic of China, provided we have full rights to preserve our culture,&#8221; the 83-year-old spiritual leader said at &#8220;Thank You Karnataka&#8221; event here in the city.<br />
Organised by the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), the event was a part of &#8220;Thank You India &#8211; 2018&#8243; held by the Tibetan community across India to mark 60 years of its exile in the country.<br />
&#8220;Several of Chinese citizens practicing Buddhism are keen on Tibetan Buddhism as it is considered scientific,&#8221; the Nobel laureate said.<br />
Born in Taktser hamlet in northeastern Tibet, the Dalai Lama was recognized at the age of two as the reincarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama, Thubten Gyatso. He fled to India from Tibet after a failed uprising against the Chinese rule in 1959.<br />
China annexed Tibet in 1950, forcing thousands of Tibetans, including monks, to flee the mountain country and settle in India as refugees.<br />
Since then, India has been home to over 100,000 Tibetans majorly settled in Karnataka, Himachal Pradesh among other states.<br />
<a target="_blank" href="https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/india/tibetans-ready-to-be-part-of-china-dalai-lama/293109.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/india/tibetans-ready-to-be-part-of-china-dalai-lama/293109.html</a></q>
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		<title>By: SabrinaS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SabrinaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so disheartening to read of the monks who practised purely by upholding oaths made to their teachers, which is in essence the heart of the Vajrayana practice being forced out of their monasteries. Whilst those who could denounce their Gurus and their vows made, had been &quot;rewarded&quot; to stay on in the monasteries. 

It is true that the Dalai Lama must be the best politician in the world, as the world leaders were beguiled into accepting his facade of compassion and humility whilst his actions belied his teachings. After 20 years of these travesty, the Dalai Lama and CTA are still instigating monks and their followers to take actions against Shugden practitioners. As it is, much sufferings had been inflicted on the Shugden Lamas and practitioners where they are physically and verbally abused, threaten and in fear of their lives, segregated and denied entries into hospital, sundry shops, schools, etc., denied their papers for travel and denied of any financial aids from the millions sponsored for support the Tibetans-In-Exile.

Thank you dorjeshugden.com for bringing us the truth that are usually white-washed for the public. We certainly wouldn&#039;t have known that there were policemen with rifles and monks had iron bars or clubs surrounding the monks, threatening those who defied the ban and vote stick referendum. So what freedom are the Dalai Lama and CTA practising when the monks are threaten and forced against their wills to vote for the yellow stick? When will the Dalai Lama manifests his true Buddha nature to lift the illegal and illogical ban on Dorje Shugden. It has gone beyond a ban on a Protector practise and is hurting the very core of the pure lineage teachings and practises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so disheartening to read of the monks who practised purely by upholding oaths made to their teachers, which is in essence the heart of the Vajrayana practice being forced out of their monasteries. Whilst those who could denounce their Gurus and their vows made, had been &#8220;rewarded&#8221; to stay on in the monasteries. </p>
<p>It is true that the Dalai Lama must be the best politician in the world, as the world leaders were beguiled into accepting his facade of compassion and humility whilst his actions belied his teachings. After 20 years of these travesty, the Dalai Lama and CTA are still instigating monks and their followers to take actions against Shugden practitioners. As it is, much sufferings had been inflicted on the Shugden Lamas and practitioners where they are physically and verbally abused, threaten and in fear of their lives, segregated and denied entries into hospital, sundry shops, schools, etc., denied their papers for travel and denied of any financial aids from the millions sponsored for support the Tibetans-In-Exile.</p>
<p>Thank you dorjeshugden.com for bringing us the truth that are usually white-washed for the public. We certainly wouldn&#8217;t have known that there were policemen with rifles and monks had iron bars or clubs surrounding the monks, threatening those who defied the ban and vote stick referendum. So what freedom are the Dalai Lama and CTA practising when the monks are threaten and forced against their wills to vote for the yellow stick? When will the Dalai Lama manifests his true Buddha nature to lift the illegal and illogical ban on Dorje Shugden. It has gone beyond a ban on a Protector practise and is hurting the very core of the pure lineage teachings and practises.</p>
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		<title>By: Camilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>900 Buddhist monks were expelled from Ganden and Sera Monasteries in the Tibetan settlement in India. The reason for their expulsion was not due to any wrongdoing or breaches of their monastic codes. But it was because they follow and practice their religious belief and uphold oath made to their teachers. Unfortunately, being a good monk with integrity is not something that pleases the Dalai Lama. In fact, it was Dalai Lama who ordered the expulsion of these monks starting 1996 when he criminalized the 400 years old Dorje Shugden practice for reasons only he knows. 

Monks of Ganden Shartse and Sera Mey monasteries were forced to abandon their oath to their teachers and sown not to worship Dorje Shugden anymore. An absurd voting process, called the ‘vote stick referendum’ was designed just to manipulate the monks into renouncing their oath and vow. In the so-called voting process, monks who did not wish to share spiritual and material relations with Dorje Shugden followers would pick the yellow-colored vote-stick and those who chose to continue their Dorje Shugden worship were asked to choose the red-colored vote-stick.

Those who chose the red stick will be expelled and ostracized and labelled anti-Dalai Lama. All these hurt and pain imposed on sangha community by the single person who lauded by the world as a beloved defender of peace, tolerance and compassion, how ironic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>900 Buddhist monks were expelled from Ganden and Sera Monasteries in the Tibetan settlement in India. The reason for their expulsion was not due to any wrongdoing or breaches of their monastic codes. But it was because they follow and practice their religious belief and uphold oath made to their teachers. Unfortunately, being a good monk with integrity is not something that pleases the Dalai Lama. In fact, it was Dalai Lama who ordered the expulsion of these monks starting 1996 when he criminalized the 400 years old Dorje Shugden practice for reasons only he knows. </p>
<p>Monks of Ganden Shartse and Sera Mey monasteries were forced to abandon their oath to their teachers and sown not to worship Dorje Shugden anymore. An absurd voting process, called the ‘vote stick referendum’ was designed just to manipulate the monks into renouncing their oath and vow. In the so-called voting process, monks who did not wish to share spiritual and material relations with Dorje Shugden followers would pick the yellow-colored vote-stick and those who chose to continue their Dorje Shugden worship were asked to choose the red-colored vote-stick.</p>
<p>Those who chose the red stick will be expelled and ostracized and labelled anti-Dalai Lama. All these hurt and pain imposed on sangha community by the single person who lauded by the world as a beloved defender of peace, tolerance and compassion, how ironic?</p>
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		<title>By: Lovett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lovett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2016 19:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a poor excuse for democracy but then again, this is the monastery and the monastic order is just expected to comply with the policies of the elders. The whole idea of subservience and obedience is in the spirit of Buddhism and the teachings. Furthermore, we as lay folks have no real say in this matter because we are not saffron upholders of the Vinaya. I believe it it the great elder lamas and lineage holders like the Gaden Tri Rinpoche and the great incarnate lamas like Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and so forth that have a real say in this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a poor excuse for democracy but then again, this is the monastery and the monastic order is just expected to comply with the policies of the elders. The whole idea of subservience and obedience is in the spirit of Buddhism and the teachings. Furthermore, we as lay folks have no real say in this matter because we are not saffron upholders of the Vinaya. I believe it it the great elder lamas and lineage holders like the Gaden Tri Rinpoche and the great incarnate lamas like Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and so forth that have a real say in this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok Rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2016 20:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can someone ever call what is happening simply advice given by Dalai Lama. This is utterly ridiculous, if a monastery implements a vote by force and then evicts those who do not give up their practice, this is NOT A VOTE BUT PERSECUTION. It is a ban outright. 

Some people have left comments that some monks who voted against the practice of Dorje Shugden did so out of fear. And I am not surprised that some did. Having spent the majority of their lives in the monastic environment, they would have surely felt afraid that they would lose everything they know, their teachers, their home. I&#039;m a sure that some of the monks who stayed behind in their monasteries still practice Dorje Shugden privately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can someone ever call what is happening simply advice given by Dalai Lama. This is utterly ridiculous, if a monastery implements a vote by force and then evicts those who do not give up their practice, this is NOT A VOTE BUT PERSECUTION. It is a ban outright. </p>
<p>Some people have left comments that some monks who voted against the practice of Dorje Shugden did so out of fear. And I am not surprised that some did. Having spent the majority of their lives in the monastic environment, they would have surely felt afraid that they would lose everything they know, their teachers, their home. I&#8217;m a sure that some of the monks who stayed behind in their monasteries still practice Dorje Shugden privately.</p>
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		<title>By: Sascha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 09:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The highest level of democracy, of recognizing and living ones own inherent dignity, is to elect your own wisdom and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The highest level of democracy, of recognizing and living ones own inherent dignity, is to elect your own wisdom and compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dharmacrazy</title>
		<link>https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-truth-about-the-democratic-dorje-shugden-vote-stick-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-204607</link>
		<dc:creator>Dharmacrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2016 05:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This injustice clearly reveals the factor that fuels this breach of human rights to religious freedom is a society that turns a blind eye and indirectly permits the ban on Dorje Shugden. How much clearer does it have to get for the global society or even the Buddhist population to acknowledge that there is a ban and millions are suffering by it. 

From very visible signboards displayed at store fronts to notification imposing that Dorje Shugden practitoners cannot join the medical team of the Men-tse-khang (tibetan medical institution ) to the emotional trauma when families ties are severed because of the Dorje Shugden controversy, we cannot deny the existence of this violent regulation against the practice of Dorje Shugden. This is not to mention that physical assaults against Dorje Shugden practitioner including Gen Chonze who takes care of Trijang Rinpoche&#039;s ladrang in Dharamsala. 

Why are people pretending that everything is fine and Tibet is still this peaceful world of spiritual awakening, rich in compassion and wisdom? The benefit is certainly one that is political and economical. 

As the nature of these worldly phenomena are impermanent, it is only normal and expected that the winds will change  this is exactly what is happening now as China become the world&#039;spreferences partner and the world would do anything to be in China&#039;s good books... including abandoning his Holiness. 

It is time to end this karma. It is time to practice dharma.and push for the ban to be lifted and encourage practitioners to focus on pure dharma and not politics and secular gains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This injustice clearly reveals the factor that fuels this breach of human rights to religious freedom is a society that turns a blind eye and indirectly permits the ban on Dorje Shugden. How much clearer does it have to get for the global society or even the Buddhist population to acknowledge that there is a ban and millions are suffering by it. </p>
<p>From very visible signboards displayed at store fronts to notification imposing that Dorje Shugden practitoners cannot join the medical team of the Men-tse-khang (tibetan medical institution ) to the emotional trauma when families ties are severed because of the Dorje Shugden controversy, we cannot deny the existence of this violent regulation against the practice of Dorje Shugden. This is not to mention that physical assaults against Dorje Shugden practitioner including Gen Chonze who takes care of Trijang Rinpoche&#8217;s ladrang in Dharamsala. </p>
<p>Why are people pretending that everything is fine and Tibet is still this peaceful world of spiritual awakening, rich in compassion and wisdom? The benefit is certainly one that is political and economical. </p>
<p>As the nature of these worldly phenomena are impermanent, it is only normal and expected that the winds will change  this is exactly what is happening now as China become the world&#8217;spreferences partner and the world would do anything to be in China&#8217;s good books&#8230; including abandoning his Holiness. </p>
<p>It is time to end this karma. It is time to practice dharma.and push for the ban to be lifted and encourage practitioners to focus on pure dharma and not politics and secular gains.</p>
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		<title>By: Aloysius Bong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aloysius Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2016 01:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good on the outside, painted a fake public image of Shangri-la, it is actually an autocratic society governed with tyranny. No Shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good on the outside, painted a fake public image of Shangri-la, it is actually an autocratic society governed with tyranny. No Shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Claudia Ricci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claudia Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2016 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know that before any referendum was held at Sera Monastery or Ganden Monastery, monks were already being expelled and humiliated! I have read and heard from monks that the abbot of Ganden Jangtse Monastery at that time, Geshe Lobsang Tsephel was publicly scolded by the Dalai Lama in a public meeting for being a Dorje Shugden practitioner. 

I agree with the article that it is obvious that monks were not given a real choice. How do you vote for Dorje Shugden if your livelihood was on the line, and you know that once you made that choice, you will have no more acccess to benefits/ welfare like medical, travel documents, and other privileges. You know that once you made that choice you will be expelled from your monastery and subsequently your family may also abandon you. What is worse is that this referendum was held with much intimidation and coercion. 

It is not a matter of &#039;personal choice&#039; or advice, because once you made that choice, it is not only about you. Others had signed the oath to not share material amenities of life. They are also not allowed to associate with you. So you know that you chose the card to &#039;doom&#039;. 

Practitioners of Dorje Shugden received a commitment to do this practice from their teachers like Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, and etc. To force them to vote against the practice is to force the students to abandon their teachers’ advice by voting in favor of the ban to be politically correct. That is purely politics and in this case, CTA definitely does not practice religious freedom as written in their charter. But again, why am I surprise at CTA&#039;s mis-behaviour?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know that before any referendum was held at Sera Monastery or Ganden Monastery, monks were already being expelled and humiliated! I have read and heard from monks that the abbot of Ganden Jangtse Monastery at that time, Geshe Lobsang Tsephel was publicly scolded by the Dalai Lama in a public meeting for being a Dorje Shugden practitioner. </p>
<p>I agree with the article that it is obvious that monks were not given a real choice. How do you vote for Dorje Shugden if your livelihood was on the line, and you know that once you made that choice, you will have no more acccess to benefits/ welfare like medical, travel documents, and other privileges. You know that once you made that choice you will be expelled from your monastery and subsequently your family may also abandon you. What is worse is that this referendum was held with much intimidation and coercion. </p>
<p>It is not a matter of &#8216;personal choice&#8217; or advice, because once you made that choice, it is not only about you. Others had signed the oath to not share material amenities of life. They are also not allowed to associate with you. So you know that you chose the card to &#8216;doom&#8217;. </p>
<p>Practitioners of Dorje Shugden received a commitment to do this practice from their teachers like Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche, and etc. To force them to vote against the practice is to force the students to abandon their teachers’ advice by voting in favor of the ban to be politically correct. That is purely politics and in this case, CTA definitely does not practice religious freedom as written in their charter. But again, why am I surprise at CTA&#8217;s mis-behaviour?</p>
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