Comments on: The Dalai Lama speaks about Dorje Shugden (again) at Kalachakra in Bodhgaya https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-dalai-lama-speaks-about-dorje-shugden-again-at-kalachakra-in-bodhgaya/ The Protector whose time has come Mon, 02 Mar 2026 18:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: negra orquida https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-dalai-lama-speaks-about-dorje-shugden-again-at-kalachakra-in-bodhgaya/comment-page-1/#comment-25107 negra orquida Wed, 29 Feb 2012 15:34:13 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=11294#comment-25107 Interesting that HHDL would mention about the practice growing in America, England, Europe, Taiwan, Singapore and China. Why would he want to mention that? Usually if we are on a project to achieve a certain goal, we would generally not disclose to the public any information about possible problems of the project, as this implicates failure on our part. So in this case, the goal of the Ban-DS-Project is to.. well.. ban and stop the DS practice, right? So why would HHDL want to reveal information which points towards the opposite of this goal? I would like to take the positive stance and believe that he is hinting to DS practitioners that we are doing a good job! =D Interesting that HHDL would mention about the practice growing in America, England, Europe, Taiwan, Singapore and China. Why would he want to mention that? Usually if we are on a project to achieve a certain goal, we would generally not disclose to the public any information about possible problems of the project, as this implicates failure on our part. So in this case, the goal of the Ban-DS-Project is to.. well.. ban and stop the DS practice, right? So why would HHDL want to reveal information which points towards the opposite of this goal? I would like to take the positive stance and believe that he is hinting to DS practitioners that we are doing a good job! =D

]]> By: admin https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-dalai-lama-speaks-about-dorje-shugden-again-at-kalachakra-in-bodhgaya/comment-page-1/#comment-24359 admin Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:17:37 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=11294#comment-24359 Towards the end of the video, His Holiness Dalai Lama mentions that it seems the Dorje Shugden practice is growing in America, England, various countries in Europe, Taiwan, Singapore and China. Very interesting he makes that remark because the ban makes the Shugden practice grow bigger and spread further. Admin Towards the end of the video, His Holiness Dalai Lama mentions that it seems the Dorje Shugden practice is growing in America, England, various countries in Europe, Taiwan, Singapore and China.

Very interesting he makes that remark because the ban makes the Shugden practice grow bigger and spread further.

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]]> By: Manjushri https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-dalai-lama-speaks-about-dorje-shugden-again-at-kalachakra-in-bodhgaya/comment-page-1/#comment-23742 Manjushri Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:18:14 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=11294#comment-23742 Wow, how kind of the Dalai Lama to now slowly allow people a little bit of religious freedom by saying that: “But it is up to you whether you still want to continue following it or not. My responsibility is to show you the proper way..”. If I remember correctly, it was a strong stance from H.H. The Dalai Lama NOT to practise Shugden for it would shorten his life. So now, if he is allowing people to practise it by saying that it is up to us, does that mean that his life would not be shortened anymore? Anyways, he is a Buddha, I don't think his life can be shortened based on what people practise. I think the negative karma of mankind can cumulatively shorten a high lama's life because the causes are not created for the lama to stay and benefit people. But if you practise a diety like Shugden and show compassion, kindness, generosity, respect, integrity, devotion, then I don't think this can affect the life of HHDL, because these are the qualities that Buddha wants us to develop within ourselves, so how can it be contradictory. DL also mentioned that his responsibility is to show "you the proper way". What is the proper way? The Dalai Lama got a huge bulk of his teachings from his junior tutor Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, so I am assuming that HHDL's "proper way" has been derived from Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche's teachings. Therefore, being such a strong practitioner of DS, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche would have definitely passed this practise down to HHDL. Why would HHDL do "thorough study and research" now, when all these years, HHDL did not question the authenticity of the practise, its qualities and lineage? Therefore, there must be a bigger reason as to the reason for this ban. In the article, it is also said that China provides "...financial support to Shugden worshippers in Tibet, India and Nepal in particular, and in general, across the globe”. Being an upcoming country of power and influence across the globe, China has decided, for whatever reasons they have, to provide financial support to Shugden worshippers. The action of providing support to others is very meritorious in itself, albeit the motivation to do so. Could it be that this ban has come about so that the Chinese would pick it up and spread it far and wide, and by the time the ban on DS has subsided, the Chinese would continue to practise DS because they have received tremendous benefit from this practise. That they will be the ones keeping the Shugden practise alive for many years to come in this degenerate times? If DS is bad, why wouldn't all the high lamas who continue to practise DS today come forth to take their stance in Shugden's practise as well? Why do their centres keep on growing? There is only one reason I can think of as to why this ban has come about.. and that is HHDL's skillful way of promoting DS into global recognition for DS's practise is very apt for our degenerate times. DS is Manjushri afterall, and so if the mindstream of any enlightened being is the same, then practicing yamantaka would also lead to negative results as well, for yamantaka is an emanation of manjushri too? hmm. Wow, how kind of the Dalai Lama to now slowly allow people a little bit of religious freedom by saying that:

“But it is up to you whether you still want to continue following it or not. My responsibility is to show you the proper way..”. If I remember correctly, it was a strong stance from H.H. The Dalai Lama NOT to practise Shugden for it would shorten his life. So now, if he is allowing people to practise it by saying that it is up to us, does that mean that his life would not be shortened anymore? Anyways, he is a Buddha, I don’t think his life can be shortened based on what people practise. I think the negative karma of mankind can cumulatively shorten a high lama’s life because the causes are not created for the lama to stay and benefit people. But if you practise a diety like Shugden and show compassion, kindness, generosity, respect, integrity, devotion, then I don’t think this can affect the life of HHDL, because these are the qualities that Buddha wants us to develop within ourselves, so how can it be contradictory.

DL also mentioned that his responsibility is to show “you the proper way”. What is the proper way? The Dalai Lama got a huge bulk of his teachings from his junior tutor Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, so I am assuming that HHDL’s “proper way” has been derived from Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s teachings. Therefore, being such a strong practitioner of DS, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche would have definitely passed this practise down to HHDL. Why would HHDL do “thorough study and research” now, when all these years, HHDL did not question the authenticity of the practise, its qualities and lineage? Therefore, there must be a bigger reason as to the reason for this ban.

In the article, it is also said that China provides “…financial support to Shugden worshippers in Tibet, India and Nepal in particular, and in general, across the globe”.

Being an upcoming country of power and influence across the globe, China has decided, for whatever reasons they have, to provide financial support to Shugden worshippers. The action of providing support to others is very meritorious in itself, albeit the motivation to do so. Could it be that this ban has come about so that the Chinese would pick it up and spread it far and wide, and by the time the ban on DS has subsided, the Chinese would continue to practise DS because they have received tremendous benefit from this practise. That they will be the ones keeping the Shugden practise alive for many years to come in this degenerate times? If DS is bad, why wouldn’t all the high lamas who continue to practise DS today come forth to take their stance in Shugden’s practise as well? Why do their centres keep on growing?

There is only one reason I can think of as to why this ban has come about.. and that is HHDL’s skillful way of promoting DS into global recognition for DS’s practise is very apt for our degenerate times. DS is Manjushri afterall, and so if the mindstream of any enlightened being is the same, then practicing yamantaka would also lead to negative results as well, for yamantaka is an emanation of manjushri too? hmm.

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