Comments on: The Cult of Dorje Shugden or the Cult of the Dalai Lama? https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/ The Protector whose time has come Mon, 02 Mar 2026 18:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: S https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-207113 S Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:51:30 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-207113 To Sarah: How do you learned from a mirror? To Sarah:
How do you learned from a mirror?

]]> By: S https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-207112 S Wed, 28 Jun 2017 20:44:40 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-207112 I never meet part og Tibetan Buddhisme that wasnt a cult, so propably both. Ore though I am not familier with shugden. I know the Tibetans and nepalneese are incredibly naive.... If Dalai Lama is not a cult leader, why is all the various groups under the Dalai Lama, plus one og his nearest familly members, doing different kinds of serious abusive stuff to people who seek refugees ore women who can't defensive themselves ? I never meet part og Tibetan Buddhisme that wasnt a cult, so propably both. Ore though I am not familier with shugden.
I know the Tibetans and nepalneese are incredibly naive….
If Dalai Lama is not a cult leader, why is all the various groups under the Dalai Lama, plus one og his nearest familly members, doing different kinds of serious abusive stuff to people who seek refugees ore women who can’t defensive themselves ?

]]> By: Sarah https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-16112 Sarah Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:35:29 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-16112 H.H. the Dalai Lama was probably acting as a mirror. Many practitioners do not stick to their tradition and seek teachings from other traditions. Westerners, in particular, are very protective of their rights, especially the freedom of religious practice. They also tend to impose this "freedom" on others. To me, it's a kind of mirror of what people do, to show them that what is right for one may not be right for another. In fact, there is no "right" or "wrong" practice. "Right" and "wrong" are both impermanent. H.H. the Dalai Lama was probably acting as a mirror. Many practitioners do not stick to their tradition and seek teachings from other traditions. Westerners, in particular, are very protective of their rights, especially the freedom of religious practice. They also tend to impose this “freedom” on others. To me, it’s a kind of mirror of what people do, to show them that what is right for one may not be right for another. In fact, there is no “right” or “wrong” practice. “Right” and “wrong” are both impermanent.

]]> By: Arisa https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-16066 Arisa Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:25:21 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-16066 If Dalai Lama proclaims that Dorje Shugden practice is a cult. Why then does he follow his Root Guru Trijang Rinpoche for so many years and practice Dorje Shugden. Buddhism is supposed to be a pure Religion and also a way of life. It is to be applied to everyday life. Dorje Shugden is an Enlightened being or a Buddha. And praying to a Buddha is a Religion and not a cult. If Dalai Lama proclaims that Dorje Shugden practice is a cult. Why then does he follow his Root Guru Trijang Rinpoche for so many years and practice Dorje Shugden. Buddhism is supposed to be a pure Religion and also a way of life. It is to be applied to everyday life. Dorje Shugden is an Enlightened being or a Buddha. And praying to a Buddha is a Religion and not a cult.

]]> By: Arisa https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-15905 Arisa Sun, 23 Jan 2011 06:57:01 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-15905 The Dalai Lama is the Sovereign of Tibet. And whatever he says must be obeyed and followed even if people do not want to. Dalai Lama says practicing Dorje Shugden is a cult. And he does not believe in praying to a cult. So he stop his people from praying to Dorje Shugden. But if Dorje Shugden is a cult and Dalai Lama has also been practicing Dorje Shugden all this while. He has even written a praise to Dorje Shugden for people to follow. Dalai Lama is a Buddha why then is he practicing Doje Shugsen until now. Buddhas cannot be wrong. Why the switch? There must be a reason why the Dalai Lama has to do this. The Dalai Lama is the Sovereign of Tibet. And whatever he says must be obeyed and followed even if people do not want to. Dalai Lama says practicing Dorje Shugden is a cult. And he does not believe in praying to a cult. So he stop his people from praying to Dorje Shugden. But if Dorje Shugden is a cult and Dalai Lama has also been practicing Dorje Shugden all this while. He has even written a praise to Dorje Shugden for people to follow. Dalai Lama is a Buddha why then is he practicing Doje Shugsen until now. Buddhas cannot be wrong. Why the switch? There must be a reason why the Dalai Lama has to do this.

]]> By: vajrastorm https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-15774 vajrastorm Mon, 27 Dec 2010 04:10:19 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-15774 Despite much 'Shugden-bashing' and despite it being labelled as a cult, the practice of Dharmapala Dorje Shugden is growing and spreading in an unstoppable fashion. This proves that Dorje Shugden,who had been relied on greatly by many highly attained Masters in the past, including Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, is an Enlightened or Supramundane Dharma Protector. It also proves that the practice Of Dorje Shugden is an authentic Dharma practice that has brought much benefit to Dharma practitioners in the cultivation of their practice of the Path to Enlightenment. So therefore, it is not a 'cult' practice. On the other hand,HH Dalai Lama, who is without doubt, the greatly compassionate Boddhisattva Chenrezig, has spread the Buddhadharma so very rapidly throughout the world. Indeed, through him and through his indefatigable efforts, Buddhism has become a household word and Tibetan Buddhism has become 'demystified'. Hence he Not a cult leader and the Dharma he practices and transmits through his teachings cannot be called a cult. Despite much ‘Shugden-bashing’ and despite it being labelled as a cult, the practice of Dharmapala Dorje Shugden is growing and spreading in an unstoppable fashion. This proves that Dorje Shugden,who had been relied on greatly by many highly attained Masters in the past, including Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, is an Enlightened or Supramundane Dharma Protector. It also proves that the practice Of Dorje Shugden is an authentic Dharma practice that has brought much benefit to Dharma practitioners in the cultivation of their practice of the Path to Enlightenment. So therefore, it is not a ‘cult’ practice.
On the other hand,HH Dalai Lama, who is without doubt, the greatly compassionate Boddhisattva Chenrezig, has spread the Buddhadharma so very rapidly throughout the world. Indeed, through him and through his indefatigable efforts, Buddhism has become a household word and Tibetan Buddhism has become ‘demystified’. Hence he Not a cult leader and the Dharma he practices and transmits through his teachings cannot be called a cult.

]]> By: kurava https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cult-of-dorje-shugden-or-the-cult-of-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-15168 kurava Tue, 03 Aug 2010 06:29:49 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3880#comment-15168 The explanations here are very clear. By any definition, there is no basis to assert DS is a cult practice. Personally, I don't care what others say. Its just a label and subjective. I go by what the practice entails. I can see nothing in the DS sadhana, instructions and prayers that goes against Buddha's teachings. In fact, Heart Jewel , right from the beginning reminds practitioners that it is to help those on the Buddha vehicle not other Samsaric vehicles. Actually , propitiating DS keeps us mindful that we are our own biggest obstacle and enemy . To invoke a real Dharma protector, we ourselves need to maintain pure motivation and with others' welfare in mind. The purer is our practice, the more likely we will be able to receive help from such a Protector. By the same token, we do not need to label HH as cultish. The explanations here are very clear. By any definition, there is no basis to assert DS is a cult practice.

Personally, I don’t care what others say. Its just a label and subjective. I go by what the practice entails. I can see nothing in the DS sadhana, instructions and prayers that goes against Buddha’s teachings. In fact, Heart Jewel , right from the beginning reminds practitioners that it is to help those on the Buddha vehicle not other Samsaric vehicles.

Actually , propitiating DS keeps us mindful that we are our own biggest obstacle and enemy . To invoke a real Dharma protector, we ourselves need to maintain pure motivation and with others’ welfare in mind. The purer is our practice, the more likely we will be able to receive help from such a Protector.

By the same token, we do not need to label HH as cultish.

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