Comments on: Dorje Shugden in 3,211 words or less https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/dorje-shugden-in-3211-words-or-less/ The Protector whose time has come Mon, 02 Mar 2026 18:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: DSFriend https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/dorje-shugden-in-3211-words-or-less/comment-page-1/#comment-16087 DSFriend Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:54:05 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=5878#comment-16087 I appreciate the time, research and explanation the writer puts into this article. The writer wrote the article to communicate this issue to everyone, irregardless of our background and exposure (or lack of it) to Tibetan Buddhism and the practice of Dorje Shugden. It is written that Trijang Rinpoche is the Guru who initiated both Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and His Holiness the Dalai Lama into the practice of Dorje Shugden. So here we have a Guru with two students. Geshe Kelsan Gyatso spread the practice to the west via NKT and the Dalai Lama put a ban on the practice. Guru-Student relationship is pinnacle in the Vajrayana path. To break off from what has been given by a Guru is detrimental not only for this lifetime but future lifetimes. So what is going on? We are not discussing the actions of superficial practitioners but of highly evolved spiritual beings. In my opinion, the outer actions look like a breach of vow has occurred. However, this is not the first time the Dalai Lama has practiced and stopped practicing yet he has reincarnated back and recognised by high lamas. I trust the lineage lamas that they cannot be wrong. Despite what's going on with the Dalai Lama's ban, this practice is reaching far and wide, and been promoted and protected by china. Best is to focus on the practices our Gurus have given us and not disparage any lamas. I appreciate the time, research and explanation the writer puts into this article. The writer wrote the article to communicate this issue to everyone, irregardless of our background and exposure (or lack of it) to Tibetan Buddhism and the practice of Dorje Shugden.

It is written that Trijang Rinpoche is the Guru who initiated both Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and His Holiness the Dalai Lama into the practice of Dorje Shugden.

So here we have a Guru with two students. Geshe Kelsan Gyatso spread the practice to the west via NKT and the Dalai Lama put a ban on the practice. Guru-Student relationship is pinnacle in the Vajrayana path. To break off from what has been given by a Guru is detrimental not only for this lifetime but future lifetimes.

So what is going on? We are not discussing the actions of superficial practitioners but of highly evolved spiritual beings.

In my opinion, the outer actions look like a breach of vow has occurred. However, this is not the first time the Dalai Lama has practiced and stopped practicing yet he has reincarnated back and recognised by high lamas. I trust the lineage lamas that they cannot be wrong. Despite what’s going on with the Dalai Lama’s ban, this practice is reaching far and wide, and been promoted and protected by china. Best is to focus on the practices our Gurus have given us and not disparage any lamas.

]]> By: Arisa https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/dorje-shugden-in-3211-words-or-less/comment-page-1/#comment-15877 Arisa Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:41:48 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=5878#comment-15877 I will obviously say no to the Ban of Dorje Shugden Practice with some simple and humble logic. Dorje Shugden is a Dharma Protector and he is not the only one in Vajrayana Buddhism. In the 4 Lineages in Tibetan Buddhism there are also Dharma Protectors like Mahakala etc. All these Protectors are there to help not to harm. So is Dorje Shugden who comes from the Gelupa School. Real and pure Buddhism teaches us not to condemn, but respect what others practice if there is no harm done. There are two types of Dharma Protectors. Enlightened and worldly Protectors. Dorje Shugden is an enlightened Protector. I will obviously say no to the Ban of Dorje Shugden Practice with some simple and humble logic. Dorje Shugden is a Dharma Protector and he is not the only one in Vajrayana Buddhism. In the 4 Lineages in Tibetan Buddhism there are also Dharma Protectors like Mahakala etc. All these Protectors are there to help not to harm. So is Dorje Shugden who comes from the Gelupa School. Real and pure Buddhism teaches us not to condemn, but respect what others practice if there is no harm done. There are two types of Dharma Protectors. Enlightened and worldly Protectors. Dorje Shugden is an enlightened Protector.

]]> By: Sarah https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/dorje-shugden-in-3211-words-or-less/comment-page-1/#comment-15350 Sarah Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:03:21 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=5878#comment-15350 The author has presented the two sides of the issue very well. The information given will be useful for people who are confused about the ban and all the problems that come with it. I agree with his "humble but well-educated opinion" in the conclusion, that it is best neither to praise nor to condemn anyone. In this way, we do not cause harm to ourselves and to others. By the way, "dharmapala" is a sanskrit word. The Tibetan word is "chos skyong". The author has presented the two sides of the issue very well. The information given will be useful for people who are confused about the ban and all the problems that come with it. I agree with his “humble but well-educated opinion” in the conclusion, that it is best neither to praise nor to condemn anyone. In this way, we do not cause harm to ourselves and to others.
By the way, “dharmapala” is a sanskrit word. The Tibetan word is “chos skyong”.

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