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		<title>By: Yeshe Dondrub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeshe Dondrub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Political issues are testing Buddhists, and the way we apply dharma, as well as reflect the Buddha nature is important. We all are responsible for our own conscious thought, and some show it with clarity, others are allowing pressure, issues, to re-cloud it, then you fall backwards on the path.

It is important to have dharma taught, for others to experience this precious chance. We can&#039;t ignore that. We also need to be mindful or decisions.

The Karmapa issue is an example. Some listen and respect haye for very real reasons. Experience, connection, and what Sharmar hoped to teach in the west as it was the desire of the 16th Karmapa. The 16th Karmapa was clear, he wanted the Sharmapa to return as a reflection within himself, and was strong about it. They were very close, more so then Situ or other tulka will admit. 

The Sharmapa had head decision on the matter, but while away, others acted without true authority, Then the Dalai lama acted to recognize, after 12 years later a claimed letter was produced. The Dalai lama does not retain decision in Kagyu matters, despite even Oygen not be factual on the matter. Rangjung Rigpe Dorje was clear about the decision factors, and Sharmapa would lead it. As it has been, as he wanted, and te Sharmapa-Karmapa-Karmapa-Sharmapa close relationship was dishonored, reputed, and both situ, and even Ogyen have disrespected the 16th Karmapa in discussion of that, and that is clear that it is political driven because Tibetans were suppressed by china. 

Ogyen eyes were altered, claims of money movement with support of China, political issues arose, and division created, probably as planned by Chinese political heads (not the Chinese people). Extra effort made to convince and hold.

Look at howa lama sits  when they teach. Their state of mind. Do they remain agitated and rock more then needed back and forth? Eyes roll. Tempered and covert words against the situation? So they seem bored in the lesson they give. As if it is repetitive, and not serious? Take a look at Both Karmapa&#039;s in image, and remember Rangjung Rigpe Dorje. Thaye reflects that in mind.

So the test is issued, and some truly follow dharma, while being wise and straight forward. Those of us around who were present at one time or another with the 16th Karmapa, fel the connection, as well as other evidence. 

Now the Dalai Lama. Again more caught in tough positions. Making choices for Buddhism, and the resistance is larger then you think. I do respect him, he cares about Tibet, and what has happened. Yet he can not decide how Buddhist approach teachings and becoming mindful.  He can not speak for the older Kagyu schools. He can&#039;t say that Tibetan Buddhism is the most complete, at least not  referring to just Mahayana approach. 

HE has to respect all people, with equanimity, compassion, and be supportive, even if not his point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political issues are testing Buddhists, and the way we apply dharma, as well as reflect the Buddha nature is important. We all are responsible for our own conscious thought, and some show it with clarity, others are allowing pressure, issues, to re-cloud it, then you fall backwards on the path.</p>
<p>It is important to have dharma taught, for others to experience this precious chance. We can&#8217;t ignore that. We also need to be mindful or decisions.</p>
<p>The Karmapa issue is an example. Some listen and respect haye for very real reasons. Experience, connection, and what Sharmar hoped to teach in the west as it was the desire of the 16th Karmapa. The 16th Karmapa was clear, he wanted the Sharmapa to return as a reflection within himself, and was strong about it. They were very close, more so then Situ or other tulka will admit. </p>
<p>The Sharmapa had head decision on the matter, but while away, others acted without true authority, Then the Dalai lama acted to recognize, after 12 years later a claimed letter was produced. The Dalai lama does not retain decision in Kagyu matters, despite even Oygen not be factual on the matter. Rangjung Rigpe Dorje was clear about the decision factors, and Sharmapa would lead it. As it has been, as he wanted, and te Sharmapa-Karmapa-Karmapa-Sharmapa close relationship was dishonored, reputed, and both situ, and even Ogyen have disrespected the 16th Karmapa in discussion of that, and that is clear that it is political driven because Tibetans were suppressed by china. </p>
<p>Ogyen eyes were altered, claims of money movement with support of China, political issues arose, and division created, probably as planned by Chinese political heads (not the Chinese people). Extra effort made to convince and hold.</p>
<p>Look at howa lama sits  when they teach. Their state of mind. Do they remain agitated and rock more then needed back and forth? Eyes roll. Tempered and covert words against the situation? So they seem bored in the lesson they give. As if it is repetitive, and not serious? Take a look at Both Karmapa&#8217;s in image, and remember Rangjung Rigpe Dorje. Thaye reflects that in mind.</p>
<p>So the test is issued, and some truly follow dharma, while being wise and straight forward. Those of us around who were present at one time or another with the 16th Karmapa, fel the connection, as well as other evidence. </p>
<p>Now the Dalai Lama. Again more caught in tough positions. Making choices for Buddhism, and the resistance is larger then you think. I do respect him, he cares about Tibet, and what has happened. Yet he can not decide how Buddhist approach teachings and becoming mindful.  He can not speak for the older Kagyu schools. He can&#8217;t say that Tibetan Buddhism is the most complete, at least not  referring to just Mahayana approach. </p>
<p>HE has to respect all people, with equanimity, compassion, and be supportive, even if not his point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the Dalai Lama is a Buddha and whatever he is doing is fulfilling the bigger purpose as proclaimed by the dorjeshugden website. 

The people who have not read in between the lines take the dalai lama&#039;s words literally, it is very clear for the world to see that the supporters of the ban have not integrated the dharma into their core. If they did , they would not spit and abuse people who are protesting peacefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the Dalai Lama is a Buddha and whatever he is doing is fulfilling the bigger purpose as proclaimed by the dorjeshugden website. </p>
<p>The people who have not read in between the lines take the dalai lama&#8217;s words literally, it is very clear for the world to see that the supporters of the ban have not integrated the dharma into their core. If they did , they would not spit and abuse people who are protesting peacefully.</p>
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		<title>By: kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, when HH Dalai Lama impose the ban, he has already given the approvals to attack all Dorje Shugden practitioners, and that includes ISC members of course.

And when HH Dalai Lama raise His voice against the Dorje Shugden practitioners, it gives approvals to be nasty; and when CTA incite violence and HH Dalai Lama didn&#039;t say a thing, that gives approvals to be nasty; and when CTA published the &quot;hit list&quot; and HH Dalai Lama didn&#039;t say a thing, that gives even more approvals for even more attacks.

How sad.

How ironic. The most peaceful person on earth has a lot of students who are so hateful and revengeful.. and worst of all, hurting others just outside the hall where HH Dalai Lama is giving talk on compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, when HH Dalai Lama impose the ban, he has already given the approvals to attack all Dorje Shugden practitioners, and that includes ISC members of course.</p>
<p>And when HH Dalai Lama raise His voice against the Dorje Shugden practitioners, it gives approvals to be nasty; and when CTA incite violence and HH Dalai Lama didn&#8217;t say a thing, that gives approvals to be nasty; and when CTA published the &#8220;hit list&#8221; and HH Dalai Lama didn&#8217;t say a thing, that gives even more approvals for even more attacks.</p>
<p>How sad.</p>
<p>How ironic. The most peaceful person on earth has a lot of students who are so hateful and revengeful.. and worst of all, hurting others just outside the hall where HH Dalai Lama is giving talk on compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Manisha Kudo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manisha Kudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if the Dalai Lama is on a world tour giving talks on compassion, wisdom, kindness and what have you, then, it makes all of us wonder why would the same students and adherents who attend these talks be so violent towards the protestors. If they really wish to protect their teacher, the Dalai Lama, perhaps they should firstly conduct themselves better. Next, if they really understand the Dharma, perhaps they should lend a ear to the cries of the Dorje Shugden practitioners and not shun them and hit them with abuse and aggression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if the Dalai Lama is on a world tour giving talks on compassion, wisdom, kindness and what have you, then, it makes all of us wonder why would the same students and adherents who attend these talks be so violent towards the protestors. If they really wish to protect their teacher, the Dalai Lama, perhaps they should firstly conduct themselves better. Next, if they really understand the Dharma, perhaps they should lend a ear to the cries of the Dorje Shugden practitioners and not shun them and hit them with abuse and aggression.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Edge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people would probably think that the Dalai Lama is a great guy and he is an epitome of peace and represents the Buddhist principle of Loving-Kindness. Of course, we can&#039;t deny that he has done a lot of good deeds for the Tibetans as perceived by his believers and followers. However, on a humanitarian level, we can&#039;t deny that he has caused a lot of grief for the Shugden practitioners. Just because he is the Dalai Lama, he is not immune to making mistakes and owning up to them when innocent parties are injured by his deliberate actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people would probably think that the Dalai Lama is a great guy and he is an epitome of peace and represents the Buddhist principle of Loving-Kindness. Of course, we can&#8217;t deny that he has done a lot of good deeds for the Tibetans as perceived by his believers and followers. However, on a humanitarian level, we can&#8217;t deny that he has caused a lot of grief for the Shugden practitioners. Just because he is the Dalai Lama, he is not immune to making mistakes and owning up to them when innocent parties are injured by his deliberate actions.</p>
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