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		<title>By: Karma</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 13:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His Holiness the 70th Je Khenpo, the highest spiritual authority of Bhutan, has never discriminated against Dorje Shugden practitioners nor instructed Bhutanese citizens to criticize the Dorje Shugden lineage. Instead, His Holiness offered wise guidance to the people, advising them not to get involved in the ongoing controversy surrounding the Dorje Shugden issue.This clarification came after certain followers or lineage holders of Dorje Shugden falsely claimed that Bhutan had also recognized Dorje Shugden as a protector deity. Such statements were entirely untrue and appeared to be an attempt to draw Bhutan into a matter that does not concern the nation’s spiritual tradition or practices.

In response to these misleading claims, the Je Khenpo reminded the Bhutanese public to remain discerning and to avoid being influenced by external agendas. He emphasized that Bhutan has never adopted Dorje Shugden worship as part of its religious practice, and that spreading false information only creates unnecessary confusion and disharmony. Through his compassionate counsel, His Holiness reaffirmed Bhutan’s long-standing commitment to preserving its authentic spiritual heritage and maintaining unity, peace, and respect among all religious traditions without discrimination or hostility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His Holiness the 70th Je Khenpo, the highest spiritual authority of Bhutan, has never discriminated against Dorje Shugden practitioners nor instructed Bhutanese citizens to criticize the Dorje Shugden lineage. Instead, His Holiness offered wise guidance to the people, advising them not to get involved in the ongoing controversy surrounding the Dorje Shugden issue.This clarification came after certain followers or lineage holders of Dorje Shugden falsely claimed that Bhutan had also recognized Dorje Shugden as a protector deity. Such statements were entirely untrue and appeared to be an attempt to draw Bhutan into a matter that does not concern the nation’s spiritual tradition or practices.</p>
<p>In response to these misleading claims, the Je Khenpo reminded the Bhutanese public to remain discerning and to avoid being influenced by external agendas. He emphasized that Bhutan has never adopted Dorje Shugden worship as part of its religious practice, and that spreading false information only creates unnecessary confusion and disharmony. Through his compassionate counsel, His Holiness reaffirmed Bhutan’s long-standing commitment to preserving its authentic spiritual heritage and maintaining unity, peace, and respect among all religious traditions without discrimination or hostility.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanush Azad</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Till date I was in doubt whether the information on this webpage are true or not. Now all my doubts are cleared becuase none of the information on the issue of 10th Shabdrung is true.
Bhutan a drukpa kagyu state has nothing to do with a ghost of gelug zombie. Je Khenpo issued the order that no one should appropriate Dolgyal Spirit because some Tibetan refugees are found to be appropriating it despite the advise of his holiness.
All the DS activities and accusations are based on ignorance and projections of ones own smallness.
Dolgyal worshippers has caused immense pains to all other buddhist sects. Their motto since the ancient times was &quot; Death to the non-believers&quot; and it sitll is. It goes completely against the teaching of Buddha. Buddha never said- no enlightenment without dolgyal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Till date I was in doubt whether the information on this webpage are true or not. Now all my doubts are cleared becuase none of the information on the issue of 10th Shabdrung is true.<br />
Bhutan a drukpa kagyu state has nothing to do with a ghost of gelug zombie. Je Khenpo issued the order that no one should appropriate Dolgyal Spirit because some Tibetan refugees are found to be appropriating it despite the advise of his holiness.<br />
All the DS activities and accusations are based on ignorance and projections of ones own smallness.<br />
Dolgyal worshippers has caused immense pains to all other buddhist sects. Their motto since the ancient times was &#8221; Death to the non-believers&#8221; and it sitll is. It goes completely against the teaching of Buddha. Buddha never said- no enlightenment without dolgyal.</p>
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		<title>By: Bystander</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2019 06:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religions are supposed to help people to clear their mind, to get rid of greed, anger, and attachment, to be free from politics. However, looking at all these controversies, two Karmapas, two Panchen Lamas, two Dromo Geshe Rinpoches, two Kundeling Rinpoches, Dorje Shugden bans, etc, they are creating more confusion, disharmonies, separation, anger etc. to Buddhists, all these man-made politics are pushing people away from real Buddhism, nothing positive. Sad to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religions are supposed to help people to clear their mind, to get rid of greed, anger, and attachment, to be free from politics. However, looking at all these controversies, two Karmapas, two Panchen Lamas, two Dromo Geshe Rinpoches, two Kundeling Rinpoches, Dorje Shugden bans, etc, they are creating more confusion, disharmonies, separation, anger etc. to Buddhists, all these man-made politics are pushing people away from real Buddhism, nothing positive. Sad to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Jampa Youdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jampa Youdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2019 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tibetan government-in-exile (Dharamsala), 

Sharmapa Rinpoche is the highest authority in the Karma Kagyu after Karmapa. By age-old tradition, Sharmapa is the one that confirms the real incarnation of Karmapa. He recognized Thaye Dorje as the genuine Karmapa. But Dalai Lama endorsed Orgyen Trinley as the real Karmapa. Dalai Lama is a great lama but there has never been a tradition of him recognizing a Karmapa. 

Both &#039;Karmapas&#039; have big followings in and out of Tibet. So which one should we follow? We have to follow the genuine Karmapa. If we follow the fake one, we will get fake teachings, fake lineage and no results. We can even take rebirth in the lower realms. 

Only the Tibetan leaders can tell us which is the real Karmapa. You have told us which one is the real Panchen Lama. We follow the Panchen of your choosing. Since then we have condemned China and condemned the fake Panchen Lama. Now it is the same situation with Karmapa. We have denounced the fake Karmapa and ask him to step down. He is destroying the Karma Kagyu Lineage. 

This issue has torn the Karma Kagyu sect in half. There are many who are so confused and some gave up Tibetan Buddhism altogether because of this. We must solve the confusion. This does not look good for the Tibetan government in exile because the confusion was started by Tibetan government. I support Dalai Lama and Tibetan government. But so many of us need to know the real Karmapa already. Don&#039;t remain silent. Which one is the real Karmapa.



Tibetan government in exile, you have created two Gelugs (Pro-Dorje Shugden and against), you have created two Panchen Rinpoches, two Karmapas, two Dromo Geshe Rinpoches, two Kundeling Rinpoches and so on. When are you going to solve all the confusion. You are destroying Tibetan Buddhism.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tibetan government-in-exile (Dharamsala), </p>
<p>Sharmapa Rinpoche is the highest authority in the Karma Kagyu after Karmapa. By age-old tradition, Sharmapa is the one that confirms the real incarnation of Karmapa. He recognized Thaye Dorje as the genuine Karmapa. But Dalai Lama endorsed Orgyen Trinley as the real Karmapa. Dalai Lama is a great lama but there has never been a tradition of him recognizing a Karmapa. </p>
<p>Both &#8216;Karmapas&#8217; have big followings in and out of Tibet. So which one should we follow? We have to follow the genuine Karmapa. If we follow the fake one, we will get fake teachings, fake lineage and no results. We can even take rebirth in the lower realms. </p>
<p>Only the Tibetan leaders can tell us which is the real Karmapa. You have told us which one is the real Panchen Lama. We follow the Panchen of your choosing. Since then we have condemned China and condemned the fake Panchen Lama. Now it is the same situation with Karmapa. We have denounced the fake Karmapa and ask him to step down. He is destroying the Karma Kagyu Lineage. </p>
<p>This issue has torn the Karma Kagyu sect in half. There are many who are so confused and some gave up Tibetan Buddhism altogether because of this. We must solve the confusion. This does not look good for the Tibetan government in exile because the confusion was started by Tibetan government. I support Dalai Lama and Tibetan government. But so many of us need to know the real Karmapa already. Don&#8217;t remain silent. Which one is the real Karmapa.</p>
<p>Tibetan government in exile, you have created two Gelugs (Pro-Dorje Shugden and against), you have created two Panchen Rinpoches, two Karmapas, two Dromo Geshe Rinpoches, two Kundeling Rinpoches and so on. When are you going to solve all the confusion. You are destroying Tibetan Buddhism.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonam Choephel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonam Choephel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2019 23:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the so-called spiritual head of Tibetan Buddhists, the Dalai Lama strictly abstains from drinking alcohol in accordance to traditional monastic codes. However, it has recently been reported that the religious leader owns his own vineyard in Switzerland! Apparently, various celebrities, including the likes of Roger Moore, Sepp Blatter and Zinedine Zidane have all made trips to the vineyard. What will people say when they find out that a Buddhist monk, who promotes abstinence from alcohol, owns a vineyard that produces wine for sale? This is certainly not going to sit well with his image of a religious leader and member of the Buddhist monastic order.

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		<title>By: Tsering Ngodup</title>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&#039;Karmapa&#039; Ogyen Trinley no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa. Indian government is not happy he did not show respect to India for all the years he took refuge in India. He simply renounced his Indian protectorate papers and took a Dominican republic passport. He could have had the courtesy to let Indian government know beforehand and thank them. 

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/67279793.cms?&amp;utm_source=contentofinterest&amp;utm_medium=text&amp;utm_campaign=cppst&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;q&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;‘Dorje no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa’&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
Indrani Bagchi &#124; TNN &#124; Dec 28, 2018, 04:00 IST
&lt;b&gt;HIGHLIGHTS&lt;/b&gt;
• &lt;em&gt;Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa.&lt;/em&gt;
• &lt;em&gt;This could mean that India will no accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.&lt;/em&gt;
NEW DELHI: The already strained ties between Karmapa Ugyen Trinley Dorje and the Indian government seems to have further deteriorated with the government making it clear that it does not recognise him as the legitimate Buddhist religious leader of the influential karma kagyu sect.
The sharp put down, articulated by well-placed sources, makes the status and future of the Karmapa uncertain in India and seems to indicate that India’s impatience with his long absence from India has turned into a colder indifference to the leader’s claim to his “traditional” seat of the Rumtek monastery.
Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa. This could mean that India will not accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.
There are legal and political aspects to the development. Since there are competing claims to the Rumtek monastery that are sub judice, India cannot pronounce on the Karmapa’s claim. However, politically, keeping the Karmapa in its zone of influence and supporting his presence here makes India a “guardian” of a religious leader seen to rank next to the Dalai Lama in importance.
The government’s stand is at odds with the Dalai Lama, who has recognised Dorje as the legitimate Karmapa. In recent years, the Indian government had also shed its suspicions about Karmapa’s escape from China along with his older sister and a few followers. But for more than a year after Karmapa went to the US, he has avoided returning and has in fact complained that he finds restrictions on his travel irksome.
The rival claimant to the post, Thaye Dorje, who had been placed as a Karmapa claimant by Shamar Rimpoche, recently renounced monkhood and got married, diluting his claim since the title calls for celibacy.
The two claimants had riven the Karma Kagyu sect, though according to reports, an attempt was made to bridge the divide with Ugyed Trinley Dorje and Trinley Thaye Dorje meeting at a place on the France-Switzerland border in October.
Ugyen Trinley Dorje’s situation became tenuous after he took a passport from the commonwealth of Dominica in the Caribbean. Sources said Dorje’s acquiring of a foreign passport automatically makes the Tibetan identity certificate (IC) invalid. This means, he would need a visa to enter India.
The Indian government, according to sources, have conveyed to the Karmapa willingness to issue him a visa. “But he has not approached any Indian mission for a visa,” they said.
Indian security agencies have been suspicious of him for years, branding him a Chinese spy, particularly as China so readily recognised him. In 2016, the Modi government however, eased travel restrictions for him and he was allowed to travel overseas.
This throws into confusion not only the future of the Karma Kagyu sect of which Dorje is believed to be the head, but would have implications for India-China and India-Tibet relations in the longer term.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/67279793.cms?&amp;utm_source=contentofinterest&amp;utm_medium=text&amp;utm_campaign=cppst&lt;/q&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8216;Karmapa&#8217; Ogyen Trinley no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa. Indian government is not happy he did not show respect to India for all the years he took refuge in India. He simply renounced his Indian protectorate papers and took a Dominican republic passport. He could have had the courtesy to let Indian government know beforehand and thank them. </p>
<p>Read more at:<br />
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<p><q><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red"><b>‘Dorje no longer recognised by Indian govt as 17th Karmapa’</b></span><br />
Indrani Bagchi | TNN | Dec 28, 2018, 04:00 IST<br />
<b>HIGHLIGHTS</b><br />
• <em>Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa.</em><br />
• <em>This could mean that India will no accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.</em><br />
NEW DELHI: The already strained ties between Karmapa Ugyen Trinley Dorje and the Indian government seems to have further deteriorated with the government making it clear that it does not recognise him as the legitimate Buddhist religious leader of the influential karma kagyu sect.<br />
The sharp put down, articulated by well-placed sources, makes the status and future of the Karmapa uncertain in India and seems to indicate that India’s impatience with his long absence from India has turned into a colder indifference to the leader’s claim to his “traditional” seat of the Rumtek monastery.<br />
Given its apparent disenchantment with the Karmapa, the government is no longer seeing his decision to acquire a Dominican passport as a problem and is willing to give him a visa. This could mean that India will not accord much importance to the status of his identity certificate, the document commonly issued to Tibetan refugees, which also facilitates travel abroad.<br />
There are legal and political aspects to the development. Since there are competing claims to the Rumtek monastery that are sub judice, India cannot pronounce on the Karmapa’s claim. However, politically, keeping the Karmapa in its zone of influence and supporting his presence here makes India a “guardian” of a religious leader seen to rank next to the Dalai Lama in importance.<br />
The government’s stand is at odds with the Dalai Lama, who has recognised Dorje as the legitimate Karmapa. In recent years, the Indian government had also shed its suspicions about Karmapa’s escape from China along with his older sister and a few followers. But for more than a year after Karmapa went to the US, he has avoided returning and has in fact complained that he finds restrictions on his travel irksome.<br />
The rival claimant to the post, Thaye Dorje, who had been placed as a Karmapa claimant by Shamar Rimpoche, recently renounced monkhood and got married, diluting his claim since the title calls for celibacy.<br />
The two claimants had riven the Karma Kagyu sect, though according to reports, an attempt was made to bridge the divide with Ugyed Trinley Dorje and Trinley Thaye Dorje meeting at a place on the France-Switzerland border in October.<br />
Ugyen Trinley Dorje’s situation became tenuous after he took a passport from the commonwealth of Dominica in the Caribbean. Sources said Dorje’s acquiring of a foreign passport automatically makes the Tibetan identity certificate (IC) invalid. This means, he would need a visa to enter India.<br />
The Indian government, according to sources, have conveyed to the Karmapa willingness to issue him a visa. “But he has not approached any Indian mission for a visa,” they said.<br />
Indian security agencies have been suspicious of him for years, branding him a Chinese spy, particularly as China so readily recognised him. In 2016, the Modi government however, eased travel restrictions for him and he was allowed to travel overseas.<br />
This throws into confusion not only the future of the Karma Kagyu sect of which Dorje is believed to be the head, but would have implications for India-China and India-Tibet relations in the longer term.<br />
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		<dc:creator>Mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2018 02:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.25em&quot; class=&quot;bbcode-size&quot;&gt;&quot;What does Empress Cixi and the 14th Dalai Lama have in common?&quot;&lt;/span&gt;



&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;His Holiness the Dalai Lama has a &#039;method&#039; in his very powerful rule. 
&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;The Dalai Lama will always say it is not up to him and it&#039;s up to his people. He gave up his power to the people. But it is not really up to his people. His people and his parliament must seek his approval for all decisions or carry out his will.&lt;/font&gt; If you ask his people do they want a 15th Dalai Lama after him, they have to say yes as the current one (14th) is watching them and you have to be politically correct to say yes. Who dares to say no? &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You don&#039;t want to displease him. Who dares to say we want genuine democratically elected leaders.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Remember, none of the Dalai Lamas were ever democratically elected (the penny drops). All the Dalai Lamas sit in power on the throne till the end of their lives.&lt;/strong&gt;

Also how the next Dalai Lama will be found, the current Dalai Lama will definitely set the mechanics during his lifetime and then sit back and say, it&#039;s the people who wanted it this way. It&#039;s the people who wanted another Dalai Lama. Of course they have to say that. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;If they say they don&#039;t want another Dalai Lama after this one, it is tantamount to treason. It will offend the current Dalai Lama and make him upset. &lt;/font&gt;In order for a stateless leader like himself to continue to get millions in aid for free as he has been for 60 years, he must appear democratic. How will he get money to support his vast expenditure of his lama court, if no free donations in the millions are given? &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So behind the scenes, Dalai Lama pulls all the strings but in front, he acts like he is doesn&#039;t know anything and not involved and his elected leaders are running the show. Nothing can be further from the truth.&lt;/font&gt; Just like the last empress Cixi of China. She always enthrones little emperors handpicked by her from her royal family and extended families and controlled their power and ruled China from behind them as their regent during their adolescence. As a woman she could not be the emperor or ruler of all China, so she was clever and put young kids she chose from her royal families on the throne to be their regent and controlled them from behind the gauze curtain. She was suppose to hand power back to them when they reach the age of maturity to rule China, but she never did. She would place the young emperors on the throne during audiences and sit behind a curtain and dictate orders to the ministers in the name of the emperor as their regent. So in this way, she was acting in the name of the emperor (regent), but actually she was in full control. When time came to hand power over to the emperor, she would have them poisoned. Then place another new very young emperor on the throne. She did this for decades.

&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;She was literally the power behind the throne. She could not be dethroned in this way yet she held all power. Like this, she ruled China till her death which was near impossible for any woman to do so.&lt;/font&gt; The last emperor Puyi she placed on the throne before the kingdom fell to civil war. (This spawned the movie by director Bernardo Bertolucci &quot;The Last Emperor&quot; and the emperor was played by John Lone.)  When time came for the maturing emperors to take actual power from Dowager Cixi during her regencies, she would have them poisoned and install another young emperor and continue to be the regent. In this way, she stayed in power. She didn&#039;t get a chance to poison Puyi because she passed away (rode the dragon to heaven) during his adolescence. 

The other only female &#039;emperor&#039; in Chinese history is We Xetian (Empress Wu). Another very incredibly intelligent woman who beat the men around her at their own game and ruled China as a woman.

&lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;The Dalai Lama started the Dorje Shugden ban. It came from him and only he can start it. But now he says, it is not him.&lt;/font&gt; Because it would make him look bad if he admits the ban came from him which it did. He claims everyone in the monasteries took a vote and they voted Dorje Shugden out. Ignorant western audiences wouldn&#039;t know any better. &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;They had no choice but to vote Dorje Shugden out or the abbots of the monasteries would be dishonorably discharged by the Dalai Lama himself. He places them in power and he can remove them. All Abbots of the great Gelug Monasteries are chosen by the Dalai Lama himself.&lt;/strong&gt; He can remove them from power anytime, therefore the abbots are frightened of the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama says he just advised to not practice Shugden, but his people, the abbots in charge, the monasteries took it to another step and outlawed Dorje Shugden and it&#039;s the will of the people. So his ban on Shugden appears democratic. It was up to them. But it is not. He rules behind a &#039;gauze&#039; curtain that he handed his power over to his personal &#039;Puyi&#039; (Lobsang Sangay). 

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;The Dalai Lama cannot show the world he is in full charge, because he would be seen as a dictator and therefore lose all free aid money which he and his government subsist on.&lt;/strong&gt; Dalai Lama is behind the gauze and holds all power and Lobsang Sangay &#039;Puyi&#039; is on the throne. Strangely similar to Empress Cixi. If Lobsang Sangay does things that does not please the Dalai Lama, you can bet your bottom dollar, he will be dethroned. &lt;font color=#ff0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Again, no Dalai Lama was ever democratically voted into a lifetime of power. &lt;/font&gt;

Photos-Empress Cixi of China.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:1.25em" class="bbcode-size">&#8220;What does Empress Cixi and the 14th Dalai Lama have in common?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">His Holiness the Dalai Lama has a &#8216;method&#8217; in his very powerful rule.<br />
</strong><br />
<font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">The Dalai Lama will always say it is not up to him and it&#8217;s up to his people. He gave up his power to the people. But it is not really up to his people. His people and his parliament must seek his approval for all decisions or carry out his will.</font> If you ask his people do they want a 15th Dalai Lama after him, they have to say yes as the current one (14th) is watching them and you have to be politically correct to say yes. Who dares to say no? <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">You don&#8217;t want to displease him. Who dares to say we want genuine democratically elected leaders.</font> <strong class="bbcode-strong">Remember, none of the Dalai Lamas were ever democratically elected (the penny drops). All the Dalai Lamas sit in power on the throne till the end of their lives.</strong></p>
<p>Also how the next Dalai Lama will be found, the current Dalai Lama will definitely set the mechanics during his lifetime and then sit back and say, it&#8217;s the people who wanted it this way. It&#8217;s the people who wanted another Dalai Lama. Of course they have to say that. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">If they say they don&#8217;t want another Dalai Lama after this one, it is tantamount to treason. It will offend the current Dalai Lama and make him upset. </font>In order for a stateless leader like himself to continue to get millions in aid for free as he has been for 60 years, he must appear democratic. How will he get money to support his vast expenditure of his lama court, if no free donations in the millions are given? <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">So behind the scenes, Dalai Lama pulls all the strings but in front, he acts like he is doesn&#8217;t know anything and not involved and his elected leaders are running the show. Nothing can be further from the truth.</font> Just like the last empress Cixi of China. She always enthrones little emperors handpicked by her from her royal family and extended families and controlled their power and ruled China from behind them as their regent during their adolescence. As a woman she could not be the emperor or ruler of all China, so she was clever and put young kids she chose from her royal families on the throne to be their regent and controlled them from behind the gauze curtain. She was suppose to hand power back to them when they reach the age of maturity to rule China, but she never did. She would place the young emperors on the throne during audiences and sit behind a curtain and dictate orders to the ministers in the name of the emperor as their regent. So in this way, she was acting in the name of the emperor (regent), but actually she was in full control. When time came to hand power over to the emperor, she would have them poisoned. Then place another new very young emperor on the throne. She did this for decades.</p>
<p><font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">She was literally the power behind the throne. She could not be dethroned in this way yet she held all power. Like this, she ruled China till her death which was near impossible for any woman to do so.</font> The last emperor Puyi she placed on the throne before the kingdom fell to civil war. (This spawned the movie by director Bernardo Bertolucci &#8220;The Last Emperor&#8221; and the emperor was played by John Lone.)  When time came for the maturing emperors to take actual power from Dowager Cixi during her regencies, she would have them poisoned and install another young emperor and continue to be the regent. In this way, she stayed in power. She didn&#8217;t get a chance to poison Puyi because she passed away (rode the dragon to heaven) during his adolescence. </p>
<p>The other only female &#8216;emperor&#8217; in Chinese history is We Xetian (Empress Wu). Another very incredibly intelligent woman who beat the men around her at their own game and ruled China as a woman.</p>
<p><font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">The Dalai Lama started the Dorje Shugden ban. It came from him and only he can start it. But now he says, it is not him.</font> Because it would make him look bad if he admits the ban came from him which it did. He claims everyone in the monasteries took a vote and they voted Dorje Shugden out. Ignorant western audiences wouldn&#8217;t know any better. <strong class="bbcode-strong">They had no choice but to vote Dorje Shugden out or the abbots of the monasteries would be dishonorably discharged by the Dalai Lama himself. He places them in power and he can remove them. All Abbots of the great Gelug Monasteries are chosen by the Dalai Lama himself.</strong> He can remove them from power anytime, therefore the abbots are frightened of the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama says he just advised to not practice Shugden, but his people, the abbots in charge, the monasteries took it to another step and outlawed Dorje Shugden and it&#8217;s the will of the people. So his ban on Shugden appears democratic. It was up to them. But it is not. He rules behind a &#8216;gauze&#8217; curtain that he handed his power over to his personal &#8216;Puyi&#8217; (Lobsang Sangay). </p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">The Dalai Lama cannot show the world he is in full charge, because he would be seen as a dictator and therefore lose all free aid money which he and his government subsist on.</strong> Dalai Lama is behind the gauze and holds all power and Lobsang Sangay &#8216;Puyi&#8217; is on the throne. Strangely similar to Empress Cixi. If Lobsang Sangay does things that does not please the Dalai Lama, you can bet your bottom dollar, he will be dethroned. <font color=#ff0000 class="bbcode-color">Again, no Dalai Lama was ever democratically voted into a lifetime of power. </font></p>
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		<dc:creator>Thaimonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 20:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:12pt&quot; class=&quot;bbcode-size&quot;&gt;&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Differences between Dalai Lama and CTA president put Tibetan politics in a tailspin&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;By Rajeev Sharma, November 27, 2018 SouthasianMonitor.com&lt;/strong&gt;


&lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Tibetan politics is in a tailspin as there are signs of serious differences between the 14th Dalai Lama, unquestionably the supreme and undisputed leader of the Tibetans, and Lobsang Sangay, president of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).&lt;/font&gt;

The immediate provocation is the unceremonious cancellation of the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon Tradition, which was scheduled between November 29 and December 1 year in Dharamshala. Insiders have revealed that the conference was cancelled by Lobsang without consulting the Dalai Lama.

Even more intriguing is the timing of the move. Knowledgeable sources in the Tibetan establishment in India disclosed that Lobsang made the move while the Dalai Lama was travelling back from Japan, knowing that he wouldn’t be able to do anything to stop it.

&lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Tibetan politics is turning out to be a cloak-and-dagger mystery.&lt;/font&gt; According to sources, Lobsang waited until the Dalai Lama was on his way to the airport before ordering the Department of Religion and Culture to cancel the event. Interestingly, the cancellation of the conference is available by way of an announcement in English on the CTA website.

The CTA’s Department of Religion and Culture announced that owing to the sudden demise of the supreme head of the Nyingma tradition, Kathok Getse Rinpoche, who passed away this week in Nepal and in respecting the sentiments of the followers of Nyingma tradition, the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon Tradition was being indefinitely postponed.

The department cited that many lamas and representatives of the Nyingma tradition were unable to participate because of Rinpoche’s passing away.

On November 22, the CTA organised a prayer service to mourn the demise of Rinpoche, the 7th supreme head of the Nyingma school of Tibetan Buddhism. Rinpoche passed away following an accident on November 19 in Pharping, Nepal. He was 64.

&lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Sources say the Dalai Lama is furious with Lobsang Sangay for trying to take credit for his negotiations with China about returning to Tibet.&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Sangay claimed that the Dalai Lama has failed for 60 years in negotiations with China, but he has the power and ability to succeed. &lt;/font&gt;This is also an indication of how weak the Dalai Lama’s current position is. Sangay knows that the Dalai Lama has been negotiating with China about returning and he’s trying to position himself to take credit for it. &lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Had this happened a few years ago the Dalai Lama would have had him removed, but since his &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;cancer&lt;/strong&gt; has become terminal, Sangay has been consolidating his position among the exiled community. &lt;/font&gt;He controls the press department of the Tibetan government-in-exile and has done so since he ousted Dicki Chhoyang.

For the record, the head of the department, which cancelled the conference, was appointed by Sangay.

By the time the Dalai Lama returned to India the event was cancelled and announcements were issued to the media while he was still in the flight, which would have prevented a confirmation with the Tibetan leader and nothing could have been done to stop it. The reason given for the cancellation was the death of a senior monk.

Sources said that the real reason for the CTA president to keep the Dalai Lama in the dark was because the latter would decide again whether to back the Karmapa as his successor.&lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt; The Karmapa issue has been a major reason of discord between the Dalai Lama and the CTA president.&lt;/font&gt; Sources spoke about a telephonic conversation between the Dalai Lama and Sangay in this regard on November 22 when the former was in Japan.

&lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;During this conversation, furious arguments broke out between the two. The Dalai Lama is said to have “shouted” at Sangay, saying that the Karmapa wouldn’t be chosen and that he wouldn’t be dictated terms by anyone. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;In this conversation, the Dalai Lama used some expletives in Tibetan language which he did not expect Sangay to understand as the CTA president doesn’t know the language.&lt;/strong&gt; However, a Lobsang aide is said to have translated what the Dalai Lama said.

This marks the most significant power play ever between the different factions within the Tibetan exile leadership. In other words, it’s now an all-out battle between the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay over the future of the exile community, which may worsen in the days to come.

(The writer is a columnist and strategic analyst who tweets @Kishkindha)

Source: http://southasianmonitor.com/2018/11/27/differences-between-dalai-lama-and-cta-president-put-tibetan-politics-in-a-tailspin/


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&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;This interesting article has much food for thought:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;1. Dalai Lama is angry and shouting expletives as Lobsang Sangay. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Everyone knows the Dalai Lama is in full control. He claims he&#039;s retired from politics but this is just to say what the west wants to hear so he can continue getting funding.&lt;/font&gt; It looks good to the west that he voluntarily gave up power and this makes him look progressive. But the Dalai Lama controls everything from behind and if you don&#039;t agree with his decisions, he will be furious. Every Tibetan knows this well. 

2. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Interesting the article mentions Dalai Lama&#039;s cancer is terminal&lt;/font&gt;. Everyone knew this but the Dalai Lama tries to cover this point up. Why? Who knows? What is the problem if people knows he has cancer. Tibetan govt tries to play it down.

3. Dalai Lama is angry as his successor will only be on his terms and no one else may dictate to him the terms as Lobsang Sangay tried to do so since it is not a democracy in practice. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;As all Tibetans know, the Dalai Lama is the Lama-King and he has full power and no one may contradict him.&lt;/font&gt; The face he shows the west (soft, friendly, diplomatic, easy-going, democratic) is all just for the west. The face Dalai Lama shows his Tibetan people (fierce, King, angersome, in charge and must be obeyed) is how it really is. Tibetans know the Dalai Lama controls everything and fully manages all politics. People are not happy with this but dare not speak up as there is no democracy.

Writer Rajeev Sharma is telling the situation like it really is. Finally the truth is coming out. Tibetan government in exile is a regime in every sense of the world that depends on all the hundreds of millions of free dollars it has been taking from the west, Japan, Australia and so on. It exists on free money. It is not a good government and has failed all negotiations with China due to the Tibetan leaders&#039; arrogance. Why arrogance? They think the world will force China to do what Tibetans leaders want and that they are so important on everyone&#039;s agenda. Tibetans are on no one&#039;s top agenda and China is an economic and military super power. China will not and will never kowtow to the Tibetan demands. &lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;It is the Tibetans who must beg China to be friends and get some concessions if at all possible. &lt;/font&gt;No country has ever dared stand up to USA, but China has and China is growing in power yearly. Everyone is scrambling to be China&#039;s friend and saying goodbye to the Tibetan cause. Tibetan cause is the thing of the past and no economic benefits to support Tibetan cause. 

&lt;font color=red class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;These days every country votes in leaders that can better their country&#039;s economy due to world recession. So every country has to do business and trade and aid with China to improve their economy.&lt;/font&gt; If you side with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan govt in exile in India, what do you get? Nothing! So leaders of every nation realize this now and will continue to make friends with China and say goodbye to the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama on a personal level may be rich, famous and sells a lot of books, but that won&#039;t get Tibet back. That won&#039;t win the support of leaders of the free world and other nations. &lt;/strong&gt;

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<strong class="bbcode-strong">By Rajeev Sharma, November 27, 2018 SouthasianMonitor.com</strong></p>
<p><font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Tibetan politics is in a tailspin as there are signs of serious differences between the 14th Dalai Lama, unquestionably the supreme and undisputed leader of the Tibetans, and Lobsang Sangay, president of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).</font></p>
<p>The immediate provocation is the unceremonious cancellation of the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon Tradition, which was scheduled between November 29 and December 1 year in Dharamshala. Insiders have revealed that the conference was cancelled by Lobsang without consulting the Dalai Lama.</p>
<p>Even more intriguing is the timing of the move. Knowledgeable sources in the Tibetan establishment in India disclosed that Lobsang made the move while the Dalai Lama was travelling back from Japan, knowing that he wouldn’t be able to do anything to stop it.</p>
<p><font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Tibetan politics is turning out to be a cloak-and-dagger mystery.</font> According to sources, Lobsang waited until the Dalai Lama was on his way to the airport before ordering the Department of Religion and Culture to cancel the event. Interestingly, the cancellation of the conference is available by way of an announcement in English on the CTA website.</p>
<p>The CTA’s Department of Religion and Culture announced that owing to the sudden demise of the supreme head of the Nyingma tradition, Kathok Getse Rinpoche, who passed away this week in Nepal and in respecting the sentiments of the followers of Nyingma tradition, the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon Tradition was being indefinitely postponed.</p>
<p>The department cited that many lamas and representatives of the Nyingma tradition were unable to participate because of Rinpoche’s passing away.</p>
<p>On November 22, the CTA organised a prayer service to mourn the demise of Rinpoche, the 7th supreme head of the Nyingma school of Tibetan Buddhism. Rinpoche passed away following an accident on November 19 in Pharping, Nepal. He was 64.</p>
<p><font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Sources say the Dalai Lama is furious with Lobsang Sangay for trying to take credit for his negotiations with China about returning to Tibet.</font></p>
<p><font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Sangay claimed that the Dalai Lama has failed for 60 years in negotiations with China, but he has the power and ability to succeed. </font>This is also an indication of how weak the Dalai Lama’s current position is. Sangay knows that the Dalai Lama has been negotiating with China about returning and he’s trying to position himself to take credit for it. <font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Had this happened a few years ago the Dalai Lama would have had him removed, but since his <strong class="bbcode-strong">cancer</strong> has become terminal, Sangay has been consolidating his position among the exiled community. </font>He controls the press department of the Tibetan government-in-exile and has done so since he ousted Dicki Chhoyang.</p>
<p>For the record, the head of the department, which cancelled the conference, was appointed by Sangay.</p>
<p>By the time the Dalai Lama returned to India the event was cancelled and announcements were issued to the media while he was still in the flight, which would have prevented a confirmation with the Tibetan leader and nothing could have been done to stop it. The reason given for the cancellation was the death of a senior monk.</p>
<p>Sources said that the real reason for the CTA president to keep the Dalai Lama in the dark was because the latter would decide again whether to back the Karmapa as his successor.<font color=blue class="bbcode-color"> The Karmapa issue has been a major reason of discord between the Dalai Lama and the CTA president.</font> Sources spoke about a telephonic conversation between the Dalai Lama and Sangay in this regard on November 22 when the former was in Japan.</p>
<p><font color=blue class="bbcode-color">During this conversation, furious arguments broke out between the two. The Dalai Lama is said to have “shouted” at Sangay, saying that the Karmapa wouldn’t be chosen and that he wouldn’t be dictated terms by anyone. </font><strong class="bbcode-strong">In this conversation, the Dalai Lama used some expletives in Tibetan language which he did not expect Sangay to understand as the CTA president doesn’t know the language.</strong> However, a Lobsang aide is said to have translated what the Dalai Lama said.</p>
<p>This marks the most significant power play ever between the different factions within the Tibetan exile leadership. In other words, it’s now an all-out battle between the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay over the future of the exile community, which may worsen in the days to come.</p>
<p>(The writer is a columnist and strategic analyst who tweets @Kishkindha)</p>
<p>Source: <a target="_blank" href="http://southasianmonitor.com/2018/11/27/differences-between-dalai-lama-and-cta-president-put-tibetan-politics-in-a-tailspin/" rel="nofollow">http://southasianmonitor.com/2018/11/27/differences-between-dalai-lama-and-cta-president-put-tibetan-politics-in-a-tailspin/</a></p>
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<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">This interesting article has much food for thought:</strong></p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">1. Dalai Lama is angry and shouting expletives as Lobsang Sangay. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">Everyone knows the Dalai Lama is in full control. He claims he&#8217;s retired from politics but this is just to say what the west wants to hear so he can continue getting funding.</font> It looks good to the west that he voluntarily gave up power and this makes him look progressive. But the Dalai Lama controls everything from behind and if you don&#8217;t agree with his decisions, he will be furious. Every Tibetan knows this well. </p>
<p>2. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">Interesting the article mentions Dalai Lama&#8217;s cancer is terminal</font>. Everyone knew this but the Dalai Lama tries to cover this point up. Why? Who knows? What is the problem if people knows he has cancer. Tibetan govt tries to play it down.</p>
<p>3. Dalai Lama is angry as his successor will only be on his terms and no one else may dictate to him the terms as Lobsang Sangay tried to do so since it is not a democracy in practice. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">As all Tibetans know, the Dalai Lama is the Lama-King and he has full power and no one may contradict him.</font> The face he shows the west (soft, friendly, diplomatic, easy-going, democratic) is all just for the west. The face Dalai Lama shows his Tibetan people (fierce, King, angersome, in charge and must be obeyed) is how it really is. Tibetans know the Dalai Lama controls everything and fully manages all politics. People are not happy with this but dare not speak up as there is no democracy.</p>
<p>Writer Rajeev Sharma is telling the situation like it really is. Finally the truth is coming out. Tibetan government in exile is a regime in every sense of the world that depends on all the hundreds of millions of free dollars it has been taking from the west, Japan, Australia and so on. It exists on free money. It is not a good government and has failed all negotiations with China due to the Tibetan leaders&#8217; arrogance. Why arrogance? They think the world will force China to do what Tibetans leaders want and that they are so important on everyone&#8217;s agenda. Tibetans are on no one&#8217;s top agenda and China is an economic and military super power. China will not and will never kowtow to the Tibetan demands. <font color=red class="bbcode-color">It is the Tibetans who must beg China to be friends and get some concessions if at all possible. </font>No country has ever dared stand up to USA, but China has and China is growing in power yearly. Everyone is scrambling to be China&#8217;s friend and saying goodbye to the Tibetan cause. Tibetan cause is the thing of the past and no economic benefits to support Tibetan cause. </p>
<p><font color=red class="bbcode-color">These days every country votes in leaders that can better their country&#8217;s economy due to world recession. So every country has to do business and trade and aid with China to improve their economy.</font> If you side with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan govt in exile in India, what do you get? Nothing! So leaders of every nation realize this now and will continue to make friends with China and say goodbye to the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama on a personal level may be rich, famous and sells a lot of books, but that won&#8217;t get Tibet back. That won&#8217;t win the support of leaders of the free world and other nations. </strong></p>
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		<description>&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.25em&quot; class=&quot;bbcode-size&quot;&gt;TIBETANS SHOULD NOT HAVE MONKS AS LEADERS, THAT IS A BIG MISTAKE
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&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Note what Namdol Lhagyari said is progressive and unlike the usual Tibetan rhetoric:&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;“The problem I see right now is how reliant we are on one individual,” Namdol Lhagyari, 32, the youngest member of Tibet’s exile parliament, said. “I understand that every freedom movement requires one role model, one leader, who would push everyone in the right direction, bring everyone to one goal. But he has reached an age where we will have to prepare ourselves for a post-Dalai Lama.”&lt;/strong&gt;

Source: https://themediaproject.org/news/2018/12/3/as-the-dalai-lama-ages-tibetan-exiles-turn-to-secular-unity-over-sacred

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&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;These are important points to remember: &lt;/strong&gt;

1. Tibetan lamas and monks SHOULD not enter politics. They should not hold positions of power, leadership and political roles. It will demean the Dharma. They are not trained, nor qualified nor have the credentials to be in government. They also do much damage to religion as people start to respect them less. The lines between respecting them as spiritual beings (sangha) and speaking against them when they are in government and make wrong decisions become blurred.

2. Monks and nuns should not get involved with the running of the country but should stick to education. Giving good education to the public about ethics, morality and in some cases Buddhism. No one wants to see a political monk or nun. Because it contradicts the very reason they renounced the worldly life in order to enter a life of contemplation, learning, meditation and gaining enlightenment.

&lt;font color=#a61c00 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt; 3. Look at other countries where Buddhism is strong where sangha is sangha and never get involved with government or being public officials. In Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, Sri Lanka etc where there are tens of thousands of sangha, you don&#039;t see them in the government at all. Local or national governments both do not have sangha. Even in Christian countries you don&#039;t see priests in government. That is Tibet&#039;s big mistake to place monks/high lamas in so many government positions and as public officials. Very dangerous for the country as it has proven with Tibet and Tibetans. 
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4. Monks, nuns and high lamas should do dharma practice, produce books, videos, give teachings, guide the public, do funerals, blessings, be a nurturer, study dharma, build real temples, keep existing temples spiritual, animal shelters, environmentalists, be mediators, help with orphanages, shelters, the poor, half way houses, poor houses, and basically all sorts of charities that benefit the mind and body of sentient beings that is NOT GOVERNMENT BASED. If sangha gives good education, they can produce kind and good leaders to run the country.

&lt;font color=#980000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Tibetans should never never never allow Sangha (monks, nuns and spiritual personages) to be involved with government, politics and rule of law because it ends up in disaster. That is how Tibet lost it&#039;s country and will never get it back. There are too many monks in the Tibetan Parliament and as leaders remember Samdhong Rinpoche as the prime minister of exiles. That was very bad. The King of Tibet currently is a monk. How does that look? Very political. 
Tibet made that huge mistake and Tibet will never recover from it. &lt;/font&gt;

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<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Note what Namdol Lhagyari said is progressive and unlike the usual Tibetan rhetoric:</strong></p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">“The problem I see right now is how reliant we are on one individual,” Namdol Lhagyari, 32, the youngest member of Tibet’s exile parliament, said. “I understand that every freedom movement requires one role model, one leader, who would push everyone in the right direction, bring everyone to one goal. But he has reached an age where we will have to prepare ourselves for a post-Dalai Lama.”</strong></p>
<p>Source: <a target="_blank" href="https://themediaproject.org/news/2018/12/3/as-the-dalai-lama-ages-tibetan-exiles-turn-to-secular-unity-over-sacred" rel="nofollow">https://themediaproject.org/news/2018/12/3/as-the-dalai-lama-ages-tibetan-exiles-turn-to-secular-unity-over-sacred</a></p>
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<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">These are important points to remember: </strong></p>
<p>1. Tibetan lamas and monks SHOULD not enter politics. They should not hold positions of power, leadership and political roles. It will demean the Dharma. They are not trained, nor qualified nor have the credentials to be in government. They also do much damage to religion as people start to respect them less. The lines between respecting them as spiritual beings (sangha) and speaking against them when they are in government and make wrong decisions become blurred.</p>
<p>2. Monks and nuns should not get involved with the running of the country but should stick to education. Giving good education to the public about ethics, morality and in some cases Buddhism. No one wants to see a political monk or nun. Because it contradicts the very reason they renounced the worldly life in order to enter a life of contemplation, learning, meditation and gaining enlightenment.</p>
<p><font color=#a61c00 class="bbcode-color"> 3. Look at other countries where Buddhism is strong where sangha is sangha and never get involved with government or being public officials. In Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, Sri Lanka etc where there are tens of thousands of sangha, you don&#8217;t see them in the government at all. Local or national governments both do not have sangha. Even in Christian countries you don&#8217;t see priests in government. That is Tibet&#8217;s big mistake to place monks/high lamas in so many government positions and as public officials. Very dangerous for the country as it has proven with Tibet and Tibetans.<br />
</font></p>
<p>4. Monks, nuns and high lamas should do dharma practice, produce books, videos, give teachings, guide the public, do funerals, blessings, be a nurturer, study dharma, build real temples, keep existing temples spiritual, animal shelters, environmentalists, be mediators, help with orphanages, shelters, the poor, half way houses, poor houses, and basically all sorts of charities that benefit the mind and body of sentient beings that is NOT GOVERNMENT BASED. If sangha gives good education, they can produce kind and good leaders to run the country.</p>
<p><font color=#980000 class="bbcode-color">Tibetans should never never never allow Sangha (monks, nuns and spiritual personages) to be involved with government, politics and rule of law because it ends up in disaster. That is how Tibet lost it&#8217;s country and will never get it back. There are too many monks in the Tibetan Parliament and as leaders remember Samdhong Rinpoche as the prime minister of exiles. That was very bad. The King of Tibet currently is a monk. How does that look? Very political.<br />
Tibet made that huge mistake and Tibet will never recover from it. </font></p>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Dear Lobsang Sangye and Tibetan Govt in exile in Dharamsala, 

How come after 60 years you are still not at the G20 meetings? How come you cannot get your country back? How come the world economies and power are shifting towards the East which is China? How come you cannot get Tibetan autonomy, or freedom or any leeway with China? How come your negotiations with China is a failure and you produced nothing? 

You run around begging for FREE MONEY from Europe, Australia, Japan, Canada, Taiwan and US for 60 years now  but no one in your refugee community has made it big or successful? Where did all the money go? In your pockets? How come all your Tibetans from India/Nepal are going back to Tibet or leaving to the west. How come your schools in India are empty? How come Dharamsala is emptying out? 

How come you are getting weaker and more world governments are ignoring you? How come more are paying attention to China? Less governments are willing to pay attention to you and the Tibet cause? Where is all your rangzen groups? How come they are not effective? Maybe they are disillusioned with your corruption, lies and underhanded tactics and human rights abuses using religion to divide your own people? 

What happened to you? Why are you and your community your Tibetan &#039;parliament&#039; such losers and failures? How come you cannot achieve anything? 

Are you going to continue to beg for more FREE MONEY to fund your trips, houses, children&#039;s education, vacations, five star hotels, nice brocade chubas, expensive accessories, and properties. You know the ordinary Tibetan in India has gotten nothing in financial help of the hundreds of millions in aid for that last 60 years you Tibetan exiled government pocketed. Is that why your Tibetan people in India and Nepal are all leaving to back to Tibet and the west? You failed?

Your policies and work are not effective. 

Too bad.&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;q&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;China rises at the G20&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The global balance of power is shifting from West to East&lt;/strong&gt;
Tensions loom over Argentina, which plays host to the 2018 summit of the G20 which started on November 30. The G20 is an international forum of the EU and the heads of state of 19 major economies, which discusses global economic challenges. And the challenges are mounting.
Globalization is in reverse, as the US threatens to escalate its trade war with China and other trading partners; and xenophobia is rife in many Western countries. These challenges are a threat to global prosperity, but what will shape much of the long-term evolution of the global economy is the rise of China and other emerging economies.
Much of the focus at the G20 has been on Donald Trump and his series of sidebar meetings with other leaders, especially Xi Jinping. Trump has said that it is “highly unlikely” that he would postpone the planned increase in tariff levels from 10% to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods in January 2019. 
Of course, this may be bluster and a frequent refrain from apologists for Trump is: “Take note of what the president does, not what he says.” But we may be on the cusp of a full-blown trade war, which will not be confined to the US and China and which will reverse and reconfigure globalization. Entering foreign markets will be more costly and global supply chains will be disrupted.
&lt;strong&gt;Globalization is not inevitable&lt;/strong&gt;
The notion that globalization is a natural phenomenon, akin to the change in the seasons or the weather or gravity, is a frequent refrain. During his tenure as prime minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair opined: “I hear people say we have to stop and debate globalization. You might as well debate whether autumn should follow summer.” A pithy turn of phrase, but patently not true. 
The configuration and extent of globalization are shaped by public policy and technological change. When this changes, it can, in turn, accelerate, slow, or reverse globalization. In periods of severe economic crisis, it has been common for countries to become inward looking -- blaming “others” for economic problems and resorting to protectionism and controls on immigration. 
In the interwar period, for example, the response to the Great Depression was a trade war and competitive devaluations as the Gold Standard unraveled. Similarly, since the 2008-09 financial crisis and the Great Recession that followed, there has been a worldwide rise in protectionist measures and Trump’s interventions may lead to a new phase of “delocalization.”
&lt;strong&gt;An evolving global economic order&lt;/strong&gt;
Major economic crises often reflect endemic flaws within the structure of the global economy and lead to major changes in global economic leadership. The crises and lessons of the interwar period led to the establishment of the Bretton Woods system, which managed the world economy during the post-war golden age of capitalism until the early 1970s. It was the system that created new international institutions (the IMF, World Bank, and GATT, which was the forerunner of the WTO) and this was underpinned by the dominance of the US economy.
But the relative strength of the US (and the dollar) declined and the system unraveled in the late 1960s and early 1970s. This collapse, and a series of oil crises, led to another major economic crisis which temporarily stalled globalization and led to shifting reliance on the power of unfettered market forces.
Liberal market capitalism may have been unleashed, but is still not ubiquitous in the world economy. The picture of a fully globalized world and the dominance of free markets is a partial distortion of a complex picture. The extent to which countries have embraced the global market agenda is highly variable.
Although many developed countries have deregulated financial markets, capital controls and managed currencies are still highly prevalent in developing countries. In terms of trade, tariffs have been reduced since World War II but they have not been eradicated.
Meanwhile, the use of non-tariff barriers has increased, with roughly 80% of all traded goods affected by these restrictive rules and regulations -- and these are prevalent in developed countries. The ongoing chaos of Brexit illustrates that “free trade” is not a natural state but is negotiated, complex, and dependent on a litany of regulations and agreements.
Deregulation, the hollowing out of the welfare state, and intensified global competition have led to rising income and wealth inequality in many Western countries. And many of those who have not benefited from globalization have also borne the brunt of the austerity policies that followed the financial crisis and the Great Recession. The resulting backlash against globalization helps explain the election of Trump and the vote for Brexit.
&lt;strong&gt;The rise of China&lt;/strong&gt;
The G20 will focus on current instability but there are long-term structural shifts which are leading to a rebalancing of the global economy. The balance of power is shifting from West to East and we are in the early stages of transition to China as the dominant world economy. 
China is already the largest economy in the world (measured in purchasing power parity) and PwC (using World Bank data) estimates that by 2050, the Chinese economy will be 72% larger than the US. Further, by 2050, six of the largest eight economies will be countries that are still emerging markets. 
China is home to many of the world’s largest companies, including major tech companies like Alibaba and Tencent. It is investing rapidly in research and innovation and although the dollar remains the dominant world currency, the IMF has added the renminbi to its basket of global reserve currencies. It will only become more important as Trump’s policy of American isolationism continues.
This year’s G20 summit will focus on maintaining some semblance of international cooperation and preventing a global trade war. The short-term noise will probably come from Trump. But China can play a long-term game as its position in the global economy is on the rise. In the face of the gales of the long-term shifts in the global economy, Trump can blow hard now -- but as far as the future is concerned, he will be blowing in the wind. 
&lt;em&gt;Michael Kitson is University Senior Lecturer in International Macroeconomics, Cambridge Judge Business School. This article previously appeared in Reuters.&lt;/em&gt;
https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2018/12/01/china-rises-at-the-g20&lt;/q&gt; 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Dear Lobsang Sangye and Tibetan Govt in exile in Dharamsala, </p>
<p>How come after 60 years you are still not at the G20 meetings? How come you cannot get your country back? How come the world economies and power are shifting towards the East which is China? How come you cannot get Tibetan autonomy, or freedom or any leeway with China? How come your negotiations with China is a failure and you produced nothing? </p>
<p>You run around begging for FREE MONEY from Europe, Australia, Japan, Canada, Taiwan and US for 60 years now  but no one in your refugee community has made it big or successful? Where did all the money go? In your pockets? How come all your Tibetans from India/Nepal are going back to Tibet or leaving to the west. How come your schools in India are empty? How come Dharamsala is emptying out? </p>
<p>How come you are getting weaker and more world governments are ignoring you? How come more are paying attention to China? Less governments are willing to pay attention to you and the Tibet cause? Where is all your rangzen groups? How come they are not effective? Maybe they are disillusioned with your corruption, lies and underhanded tactics and human rights abuses using religion to divide your own people? </p>
<p>What happened to you? Why are you and your community your Tibetan &#8216;parliament&#8217; such losers and failures? How come you cannot achieve anything? </p>
<p>Are you going to continue to beg for more FREE MONEY to fund your trips, houses, children&#8217;s education, vacations, five star hotels, nice brocade chubas, expensive accessories, and properties. You know the ordinary Tibetan in India has gotten nothing in financial help of the hundreds of millions in aid for that last 60 years you Tibetan exiled government pocketed. Is that why your Tibetan people in India and Nepal are all leaving to back to Tibet and the west? You failed?</p>
<p>Your policies and work are not effective. </p>
<p>Too bad.</b></p>
<p><q><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red"><b>China rises at the G20</b></span><br />
<strong>The global balance of power is shifting from West to East</strong><br />
Tensions loom over Argentina, which plays host to the 2018 summit of the G20 which started on November 30. The G20 is an international forum of the EU and the heads of state of 19 major economies, which discusses global economic challenges. And the challenges are mounting.<br />
Globalization is in reverse, as the US threatens to escalate its trade war with China and other trading partners; and xenophobia is rife in many Western countries. These challenges are a threat to global prosperity, but what will shape much of the long-term evolution of the global economy is the rise of China and other emerging economies.<br />
Much of the focus at the G20 has been on Donald Trump and his series of sidebar meetings with other leaders, especially Xi Jinping. Trump has said that it is “highly unlikely” that he would postpone the planned increase in tariff levels from 10% to 25% on $200 billion of Chinese goods in January 2019.<br />
Of course, this may be bluster and a frequent refrain from apologists for Trump is: “Take note of what the president does, not what he says.” But we may be on the cusp of a full-blown trade war, which will not be confined to the US and China and which will reverse and reconfigure globalization. Entering foreign markets will be more costly and global supply chains will be disrupted.<br />
<strong>Globalization is not inevitable</strong><br />
The notion that globalization is a natural phenomenon, akin to the change in the seasons or the weather or gravity, is a frequent refrain. During his tenure as prime minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair opined: “I hear people say we have to stop and debate globalization. You might as well debate whether autumn should follow summer.” A pithy turn of phrase, but patently not true.<br />
The configuration and extent of globalization are shaped by public policy and technological change. When this changes, it can, in turn, accelerate, slow, or reverse globalization. In periods of severe economic crisis, it has been common for countries to become inward looking &#8212; blaming “others” for economic problems and resorting to protectionism and controls on immigration.<br />
In the interwar period, for example, the response to the Great Depression was a trade war and competitive devaluations as the Gold Standard unraveled. Similarly, since the 2008-09 financial crisis and the Great Recession that followed, there has been a worldwide rise in protectionist measures and Trump’s interventions may lead to a new phase of “delocalization.”<br />
<strong>An evolving global economic order</strong><br />
Major economic crises often reflect endemic flaws within the structure of the global economy and lead to major changes in global economic leadership. The crises and lessons of the interwar period led to the establishment of the Bretton Woods system, which managed the world economy during the post-war golden age of capitalism until the early 1970s. It was the system that created new international institutions (the IMF, World Bank, and GATT, which was the forerunner of the WTO) and this was underpinned by the dominance of the US economy.<br />
But the relative strength of the US (and the dollar) declined and the system unraveled in the late 1960s and early 1970s. This collapse, and a series of oil crises, led to another major economic crisis which temporarily stalled globalization and led to shifting reliance on the power of unfettered market forces.<br />
Liberal market capitalism may have been unleashed, but is still not ubiquitous in the world economy. The picture of a fully globalized world and the dominance of free markets is a partial distortion of a complex picture. The extent to which countries have embraced the global market agenda is highly variable.<br />
Although many developed countries have deregulated financial markets, capital controls and managed currencies are still highly prevalent in developing countries. In terms of trade, tariffs have been reduced since World War II but they have not been eradicated.<br />
Meanwhile, the use of non-tariff barriers has increased, with roughly 80% of all traded goods affected by these restrictive rules and regulations &#8212; and these are prevalent in developed countries. The ongoing chaos of Brexit illustrates that “free trade” is not a natural state but is negotiated, complex, and dependent on a litany of regulations and agreements.<br />
Deregulation, the hollowing out of the welfare state, and intensified global competition have led to rising income and wealth inequality in many Western countries. And many of those who have not benefited from globalization have also borne the brunt of the austerity policies that followed the financial crisis and the Great Recession. The resulting backlash against globalization helps explain the election of Trump and the vote for Brexit.<br />
<strong>The rise of China</strong><br />
The G20 will focus on current instability but there are long-term structural shifts which are leading to a rebalancing of the global economy. The balance of power is shifting from West to East and we are in the early stages of transition to China as the dominant world economy.<br />
China is already the largest economy in the world (measured in purchasing power parity) and PwC (using World Bank data) estimates that by 2050, the Chinese economy will be 72% larger than the US. Further, by 2050, six of the largest eight economies will be countries that are still emerging markets.<br />
China is home to many of the world’s largest companies, including major tech companies like Alibaba and Tencent. It is investing rapidly in research and innovation and although the dollar remains the dominant world currency, the IMF has added the renminbi to its basket of global reserve currencies. It will only become more important as Trump’s policy of American isolationism continues.<br />
This year’s G20 summit will focus on maintaining some semblance of international cooperation and preventing a global trade war. The short-term noise will probably come from Trump. But China can play a long-term game as its position in the global economy is on the rise. In the face of the gales of the long-term shifts in the global economy, Trump can blow hard now &#8212; but as far as the future is concerned, he will be blowing in the wind.<br />
<em>Michael Kitson is University Senior Lecturer in International Macroeconomics, Cambridge Judge Business School. This article previously appeared in Reuters.</em><br />
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