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		<title>By: Dalai Lama should set things right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalai Lama should set things right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dalai Lama,

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.&lt;/font&gt; They don&#039;t speak out not because they don&#039;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There is no harmony.&lt;/font&gt; Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.&lt;/font&gt; You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.&lt;/font&gt;

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.&lt;/font&gt; Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.&lt;/font&gt; Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

&lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.&lt;/font&gt; There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.&lt;/font&gt; All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.&lt;/font&gt; Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dalai Lama,</p>
<p>Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.</font> They don&#8217;t speak out not because they don&#8217;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There is no harmony.</font> Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.</p>
<p>By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.</p>
<p>It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.</font> You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.</p>
<p>Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.</font></p>
<p>You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.</font> Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.</font> Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.</p>
<p>No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.</p>
<p><font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.</font> There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.</p>
<p>You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.</p>
<p>After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.</p>
<p>Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.</font> All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.</p>
<p>The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.</font> Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.</p>
<p>Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dondrup Shugden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dondrup Shugden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As SabrinaS mentioned it is quite a while now since the US Vice Consul, Mr. Daniel Deming had visited and witnessed the discrimination against Shar Gaden and all Dorje Shugden worshippers. 

What has the US government done so far?  USA has always championed democracy and human rights and even gone to wars to uphold this ideology. Why are they now unable to lift a finger for the human rights of Dorje Shugden practitioners.Could the reasons be as follows.

Is the US also under the dire situation of not admitting their &quot;wrong&quot; support for the Tibetan cause of freedom and embarrassed that their support after 57 years sees no results that never benefitted anyone.

Is the US in denial and rather let the sleeping dog lie then to be aware of the futility and abuse of their support morally and financially to an incompetent group called the CTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As SabrinaS mentioned it is quite a while now since the US Vice Consul, Mr. Daniel Deming had visited and witnessed the discrimination against Shar Gaden and all Dorje Shugden worshippers. </p>
<p>What has the US government done so far?  USA has always championed democracy and human rights and even gone to wars to uphold this ideology. Why are they now unable to lift a finger for the human rights of Dorje Shugden practitioners.Could the reasons be as follows.</p>
<p>Is the US also under the dire situation of not admitting their &#8220;wrong&#8221; support for the Tibetan cause of freedom and embarrassed that their support after 57 years sees no results that never benefitted anyone.</p>
<p>Is the US in denial and rather let the sleeping dog lie then to be aware of the futility and abuse of their support morally and financially to an incompetent group called the CTA.</p>
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		<title>By: SabrinaS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SabrinaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2016 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was great to have the US Vice Consul Mr Daniel Deming visited Shar Gaden Monastery in 2014. He had witnessed and documented the discriminations towards Shugden practitioners and listened to abusive experiences of the Shugden monks. Yet it is August 2016 and US had not taken any remedial steps to have the Dalai Lama and CTA to lift the illegal ban on enlightened Dorje Shugden, which infringed on religious freedom and human rights laws. It is publicly known that CIA is the biggest sponsor of the Dalai Lama, CTA and Tibetans-In-Exile. The sponsorship never really reaching their people still in poverty in refugee camps, needless to say the Shugden practitioners get none of the sponsorship although they as Tibetans-In-Exile are entitled also. Today we still see the Dalai Lama and CTA defiant on not acknowledging the abuses, segregations, discriminations when there are many proofs in form of videos, pictures and eye-witness accounts. 

it is really disappointing that the &#039;Big Brother&quot; US who usually champions the rights of humans, decided to side with the &quot;Abusers&quot; leaving the millions of Shugden practitioners facing abuse and sufferings everyday. All this just to have a thorn in their &quot;arch enemy&quot; China. Sad that political ego is more important than the lives of humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great to have the US Vice Consul Mr Daniel Deming visited Shar Gaden Monastery in 2014. He had witnessed and documented the discriminations towards Shugden practitioners and listened to abusive experiences of the Shugden monks. Yet it is August 2016 and US had not taken any remedial steps to have the Dalai Lama and CTA to lift the illegal ban on enlightened Dorje Shugden, which infringed on religious freedom and human rights laws. It is publicly known that CIA is the biggest sponsor of the Dalai Lama, CTA and Tibetans-In-Exile. The sponsorship never really reaching their people still in poverty in refugee camps, needless to say the Shugden practitioners get none of the sponsorship although they as Tibetans-In-Exile are entitled also. Today we still see the Dalai Lama and CTA defiant on not acknowledging the abuses, segregations, discriminations when there are many proofs in form of videos, pictures and eye-witness accounts. </p>
<p>it is really disappointing that the &#8216;Big Brother&#8221; US who usually champions the rights of humans, decided to side with the &#8220;Abusers&#8221; leaving the millions of Shugden practitioners facing abuse and sufferings everyday. All this just to have a thorn in their &#8220;arch enemy&#8221; China. Sad that political ego is more important than the lives of humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Rinchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly thank Mr Deming for going down to Shar Gaden to witness the situation by himself. Now more people would be able to know what is truly going on and not listen to what the CTA is brain washing them to listen. 

Now, with the photos that Mr Deming has took, it acts as more powerful evidence that there is indeed a ban, and Shugden practitioners are not treated fairly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly thank Mr Deming for going down to Shar Gaden to witness the situation by himself. Now more people would be able to know what is truly going on and not listen to what the CTA is brain washing them to listen. </p>
<p>Now, with the photos that Mr Deming has took, it acts as more powerful evidence that there is indeed a ban, and Shugden practitioners are not treated fairly.</p>
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		<title>By: OMB</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 10:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr. Deming for visiting Shar Gaden to prove to the world of the real situation faced by Dorje Shugden practitioners.  May the ban be lifted quickly so that many more people will be benefited and able to openly introduce it to the world - the holy enlighten being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr. Deming for visiting Shar Gaden to prove to the world of the real situation faced by Dorje Shugden practitioners.  May the ban be lifted quickly so that many more people will be benefited and able to openly introduce it to the world &#8211; the holy enlighten being.</p>
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		<title>By: bond</title>
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		<dc:creator>bond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr. Deming for your visit to Shar Gaden. Your presence is a very important signal to the Tibetan leadership that the world’s leadership is aware, &amp; is taking step to gather more about the discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners. By witnessing &amp; recording the discrimination that is currently taking place in the Tibetan settlements, surely will deter the Tibetan leadership from continue on their violence &amp; threats against Dorje Shugden practitioners. 

Furthermore, your visit will encourage more like minded people around the world to support our continuous effort against the Tibetan leadership until the illegal ban on Dorje Shugden practices is finally lifted. 

Thank you again Mr. Deming &amp; admin for this wonderful update. Rejoice for all who had made this possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr. Deming for your visit to Shar Gaden. Your presence is a very important signal to the Tibetan leadership that the world’s leadership is aware, &amp; is taking step to gather more about the discrimination against Dorje Shugden practitioners. By witnessing &amp; recording the discrimination that is currently taking place in the Tibetan settlements, surely will deter the Tibetan leadership from continue on their violence &amp; threats against Dorje Shugden practitioners. </p>
<p>Furthermore, your visit will encourage more like minded people around the world to support our continuous effort against the Tibetan leadership until the illegal ban on Dorje Shugden practices is finally lifted. </p>
<p>Thank you again Mr. Deming &amp; admin for this wonderful update. Rejoice for all who had made this possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/us-vice-consul-visits-shar-gaden/comment-page-1/#comment-197726</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr Deming for this important visits , discrimination among the Tibethan community in India is very obvious but CTA still want to denies the fact it make the outsider like us very uneasy to look at all these unfairness treatment . Good news to know that the people is doing something to help this innocent DS practitioner .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr Deming for this important visits , discrimination among the Tibethan community in India is very obvious but CTA still want to denies the fact it make the outsider like us very uneasy to look at all these unfairness treatment . Good news to know that the people is doing something to help this innocent DS practitioner .</p>
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		<title>By: lobsanggedun</title>
		<link>https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/us-vice-consul-visits-shar-gaden/comment-page-1/#comment-197711</link>
		<dc:creator>lobsanggedun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the good comments,we were wait for many years to think our people has good knowledge and  also peaceful mind ,but unfortunately in the biggest democratic country of India as most of people knows the CTA didn&#039;t follow the rules. So I would like show for you all what&#039;s happening in my monastery ,for the future we were not give up and invite many people to show them what the Dala and CTA ban to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the good comments,we were wait for many years to think our people has good knowledge and  also peaceful mind ,but unfortunately in the biggest democratic country of India as most of people knows the CTA didn&#8217;t follow the rules. So I would like show for you all what&#8217;s happening in my monastery ,for the future we were not give up and invite many people to show them what the Dala and CTA ban to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2014 05:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome news, big thanks to the US Vice Consul Mr Daniel Deming visited Shar Gaden Monastery taking his time to help look into the Ban matter. Hence thanks to all the the lamas that contacted the American authorities in India, inviting them to witness for themselves the discrimination.

As seen in the pictures above, Mr Daniel Deming look and take pictures for all the sign that show the discrimination. Hopefully Mr Daniel Deming may help to acknowledge the team in charge and prevent CTA for no do this again. And i think the most proper is help to lifted the Illogical Ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome news, big thanks to the US Vice Consul Mr Daniel Deming visited Shar Gaden Monastery taking his time to help look into the Ban matter. Hence thanks to all the the lamas that contacted the American authorities in India, inviting them to witness for themselves the discrimination.</p>
<p>As seen in the pictures above, Mr Daniel Deming look and take pictures for all the sign that show the discrimination. Hopefully Mr Daniel Deming may help to acknowledge the team in charge and prevent CTA for no do this again. And i think the most proper is help to lifted the Illogical Ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doreen Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2014 06:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to rejoice if this is truly and genuinely a piece of good news. However, I am perturbed by the comment of Shugden Massive on October 18. Shugden Massive, you said -&quot; don&#039;t think he is vice consul, but works at embassy,. Think you have this wrong&quot;. Can you perhaps elaborate on what you mean here, Shugden Massive?
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to rejoice if this is truly and genuinely a piece of good news. However, I am perturbed by the comment of Shugden Massive on October 18. Shugden Massive, you said -&#8221; don&#8217;t think he is vice consul, but works at embassy,. Think you have this wrong&#8221;. Can you perhaps elaborate on what you mean here, Shugden Massive?<br />
Thanks.</p>
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