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		<title>By: Dalai Lama should set things right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalai Lama should set things right</dc:creator>
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		<description>Dear Dalai Lama,

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.&lt;/font&gt; They don&#039;t speak out not because they don&#039;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There is no harmony.&lt;/font&gt; Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.&lt;/font&gt; You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.&lt;/font&gt;

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.&lt;/font&gt; Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.&lt;/font&gt; Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

&lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.&lt;/font&gt; There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.&lt;/font&gt; All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.&lt;/font&gt; Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dalai Lama,</p>
<p>Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.</font> They don&#8217;t speak out not because they don&#8217;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There is no harmony.</font> Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.</p>
<p>By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.</p>
<p>It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.</font> You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.</p>
<p>Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.</font></p>
<p>You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.</font> Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.</font> Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.</p>
<p>No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.</p>
<p><font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.</font> There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.</p>
<p>You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.</p>
<p>After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.</p>
<p>Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.</font> All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.</p>
<p>The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.</font> Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.</p>
<p>Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jampadechen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jampadechen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 04:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At level of monastic vows lay practicioners do not percieve. At best they rely upon their Guru. Conflicts in direction, politics and collective insensitivity. Rejoucing is our practice, I feel compassion for sanghas who have anger, hatred. So much confusion. Meanwhile western students, and sad that sanghas are divided like foreign countries! None is free to go their way, and there is 0 compassion, so much negativity towards holy teachers and simple students. What I observed in nepalese monasteries is destructive, mainly self- destructive behaviour, like missing the point. Om mani padme hum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At level of monastic vows lay practicioners do not percieve. At best they rely upon their Guru. Conflicts in direction, politics and collective insensitivity. Rejoucing is our practice, I feel compassion for sanghas who have anger, hatred. So much confusion. Meanwhile western students, and sad that sanghas are divided like foreign countries! None is free to go their way, and there is 0 compassion, so much negativity towards holy teachers and simple students. What I observed in nepalese monasteries is destructive, mainly self- destructive behaviour, like missing the point. Om mani padme hum.</p>
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		<title>By: Sierra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are indeed many auspicious signs as recorded in the photographs of the getsul ceremony for Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. And, Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche giving a teaching at this precious ceremony.

May Kyabje Pabongkar Rinpoche have stable health and long life to continue to spread the dharma in the ten directions.

May Denma Gonsa Rinpoche continue the good works of his previous incarnation to benefit beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are indeed many auspicious signs as recorded in the photographs of the getsul ceremony for Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. And, Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche giving a teaching at this precious ceremony.</p>
<p>May Kyabje Pabongkar Rinpoche have stable health and long life to continue to spread the dharma in the ten directions.</p>
<p>May Denma Gonsa Rinpoche continue the good works of his previous incarnation to benefit beings.</p>
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		<title>By: SabrinaS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SabrinaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How blessed we are to be able to see two great Masters meeting again in this lifetime. His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche was the student of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in their precious lives and now in this life Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is the Guru. It is so heartening to see the closeness between these two enlightened minds and may both of them continue to benefit the people with their dharmic activities. All the auspicious signs prove to us the blessings of these Masters, real life Buddhas amongst us humans.

I just can&#039;t imagine the ignorance of CTA to abuse and ostracise His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche for practising Protector Dorje Shugden. This is the very master who gave us the Lamrim that even the Dalai Lama gives discourses on. Such a contradiction that simply does not make any sense. When will CTA ever wake up to realise their stupidity that is so clear for all to see. 

May the ban be swiftly lifted and may the dharma triumph over political greed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How blessed we are to be able to see two great Masters meeting again in this lifetime. His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche was the student of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche in their precious lives and now in this life Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is the Guru. It is so heartening to see the closeness between these two enlightened minds and may both of them continue to benefit the people with their dharmic activities. All the auspicious signs prove to us the blessings of these Masters, real life Buddhas amongst us humans.</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t imagine the ignorance of CTA to abuse and ostracise His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche for practising Protector Dorje Shugden. This is the very master who gave us the Lamrim that even the Dalai Lama gives discourses on. Such a contradiction that simply does not make any sense. When will CTA ever wake up to realise their stupidity that is so clear for all to see. </p>
<p>May the ban be swiftly lifted and may the dharma triumph over political greed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rinchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rejoice in this news!!! It is just great that these two holy lamas are together. Having H.H Pabongka Rinpoche to be givingthe vows to Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. 

Thank you for sharing this news with all us here. 

I cannot imagine the kind of merits that I have gathered in order to be viewing these incredible pictures of these high lamas of our lineage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rejoice in this news!!! It is just great that these two holy lamas are together. Having H.H Pabongka Rinpoche to be givingthe vows to Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. </p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this news with all us here. </p>
<p>I cannot imagine the kind of merits that I have gathered in order to be viewing these incredible pictures of these high lamas of our lineage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dharmacrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dharmacrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you DS.com for sharing such holy images of these great masters. Sometimes we forget that we are actually laying eyes on living Buddhas, true heroes who give themselves completely, lifetime after lifetime to benefit mankind. 

I believe that we also often take for granted what these enlightened beings are truly doing by coming out to teach. They, in many ways are exposing their lives and wellbeing to threat of harm and even death. Nevertheless, they come out to turn the wheel of dharma so that we all get a chance to peace, happiness and liberation. What precious beings our teachers are!!! 

As I say this, I think of my own Guru who has only gone through hardship and heartache for all of us. 

May we truly cherish the teachings of these holy beings because these words of Dharma are manifestation of their utter compassion and virtue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you DS.com for sharing such holy images of these great masters. Sometimes we forget that we are actually laying eyes on living Buddhas, true heroes who give themselves completely, lifetime after lifetime to benefit mankind. </p>
<p>I believe that we also often take for granted what these enlightened beings are truly doing by coming out to teach. They, in many ways are exposing their lives and wellbeing to threat of harm and even death. Nevertheless, they come out to turn the wheel of dharma so that we all get a chance to peace, happiness and liberation. What precious beings our teachers are!!! </p>
<p>As I say this, I think of my own Guru who has only gone through hardship and heartache for all of us. </p>
<p>May we truly cherish the teachings of these holy beings because these words of Dharma are manifestation of their utter compassion and virtue.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Buchen</title>
		<link>https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/pabongka-rinpoche-confers-vows/comment-page-1/#comment-199626</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Buchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So good to see Je Pabongka conferring vows on Denma Gonsar Chocktrul Rinpoche. Saw Je Pabongka in an audience once before, felt he was very very intense. This is an event to rejoice through Je Pabongka conferring monk vows on the young Rinpoche, wonderful to see Je Pabongka smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So good to see Je Pabongka conferring vows on Denma Gonsar Chocktrul Rinpoche. Saw Je Pabongka in an audience once before, felt he was very very intense. This is an event to rejoice through Je Pabongka conferring monk vows on the young Rinpoche, wonderful to see Je Pabongka smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rejoice for the return of H.E. Denma Gonsa Rinpoche.  What would be more joyful then H.H. Kyabje Pabongka to be the guru for Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. H.H. Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is a Buddha on earth. These two high lamas were Dorje Shugden strong practitioners in their pass hence They are now being guru and student and will practice Dorje Shugden together again for the sake of Dharma to benefit all sentient beings and to lift the ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rejoice for the return of H.E. Denma Gonsa Rinpoche.  What would be more joyful then H.H. Kyabje Pabongka to be the guru for Denma Gonsa Rinpoche. H.H. Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche is a Buddha on earth. These two high lamas were Dorje Shugden strong practitioners in their pass hence They are now being guru and student and will practice Dorje Shugden together again for the sake of Dharma to benefit all sentient beings and to lift the ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Joo Won</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joo Won</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2014 12:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great news to all, to hear His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche confer getsul (novice) monk vows to the young incarnation of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche.

Wishing that having more and more great master holding and continue with Je Tsongkhapa&#039;s precious lineage; and the teachings  of Je Tsongkhapa and practice of Dorje Shugden spread far and wide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great news to all, to hear His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche confer getsul (novice) monk vows to the young incarnation of Denma Gonsa Rinpoche.</p>
<p>Wishing that having more and more great master holding and continue with Je Tsongkhapa&#8217;s precious lineage; and the teachings  of Je Tsongkhapa and practice of Dorje Shugden spread far and wide.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great news about HH KYABJE PABONGKA RINPOCHE!  May HH live long and turn the wheel of dharma to benefit limitless beings.  May HH bring the Dorje Shugden practice far and wide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news about HH KYABJE PABONGKA RINPOCHE!  May HH live long and turn the wheel of dharma to benefit limitless beings.  May HH bring the Dorje Shugden practice far and wide.</p>
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