I read on issues. separation, controversy, and so much injected speculation that I clearly see people do not understand that they create much of the conflict themselves, not the core of the Kagyu.

I respect Thaye, he gives me the same feeling. I respect both Karmapa, when the teach the dharma as it is meant to be. I am a true Buddhist. I am not going to have conflict, negative emotion, caused by division. This is not what Siddhartha, the Buddha of the Shakya people, Shakyamuni taught us. He laid out foundations for various people to follow, individuals needing a different approach. This does not mean separation of schools, secs, and Buddhists.

The 16th Karmapa had a wish for Buddhism to spread west. To grow again in the east despite conflicts. Not for division and debate. One you have negative views on it, became angered, you are not following dharma. You created a new attachment for yourself.

We use reflection and images to weed through our ego. yet don’t hold on to tradition and forms not beneficial to the dharma. Both sides have teachers who warned about this. Including Shamar. Certain tradition will not benefit westerners.

We have Rinpoche’s who are no longer with us. It does affect both sides. I have seen it in the yes of both sides. That despite conflict, still love the others and will always have compassion for them.

If you want to become an enlightened being. Start with evaluating truly deep. Then letting go. While you allow the conflict, and remain conflicted, and view either negatively, you will not come closer. Be compassionate on both levels and sides. Which requires true understanding.

We need to support Karma Kagyu and let the whole world know that what CTA has done to the Karmapa!