Comments on: Dorje Shugden Lamas attend the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) 10th government committee’s first conference

By: Thupten Lhundrup

Thupten Lhundrup — Mon, 08 Jul 2013 17:28:28 +0000

It’s really encouraging to know that China supports the growth of its mother religion to flourish once again in the high plateaus of the motherland. There’s definitely a need for a system to ensure that all religious activities and direction is managed well because there’s a system for everything including enlightenment to make sure that everything is in order.

there’s always been a debate that politics should not be mixed with religion and the results are always endless. But what has worked for sure is that the reign of the Lamas throughout the centuries have shown that there’s a possibility that these two can come together to help people and at this point, it takes a change for the better.

By: Venerable

Venerable — Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:25:48 +0000

The mixing of politics and Buddhism is not to my taste at all!I abhor that any sincere religious practice is used as a means of political expediency whether in the exiled community or within Chinese ruled Tibet.It’s the old ‘Divide and Rule’ in action and causes disharmony and even more suffering.
I pray for harmony and benign political and economic systems for all human beings to be free to live their lives in peace and prosperity with religious freedom without any political interference from powerful elites or cliques.

By: BlueUpali

BlueUpali — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:19:41 +0000

P.S. To Vajratruth,
In summary, the oppressor of my oppressor is still an oppressor; that the Chinese government will not allow people to keep pictures of the Dalai Lama would be a free speech issue regardless of the government’s motive; the government of China may allow Dorje Shugden prayers among other Buddhist prayers while the Dalai Lama has banned Dorje Shugden prayers; however, what would be helpful would be basic human rights under a democracy, like freedom of expression and freedom of religion; China is totally political and would control people’s access to religious thought by oppression any time they feel like it. This is similar to the discretion of the Dalai Lamas, current and past, in doing the same.

By: BlueUpali

BlueUpali — Sun, 16 Jun 2013 06:30:59 +0000

Dear Vajratruth,
I believe I understand that what you are saying is that because the picture of the Dalai Lama is both political and religious, the Chinese are concerned about Dalai Lama pictures being a symbol of Tibetan freedom? Well, I have to say, while I applaude the Chinese for allowing some religion, it is so tightly controlled by the state that I am not sure that pure Buddhadharma would be possible in Tibet or Mainland China just now. I am fearing rebirth in that region of the world for myself and all other living beings. I feel that if I were a Tibetan in exile, that I would not voluntarily return to Tibet, even if there is some religion there, or even if the Dalai Lama were to return. I would think it would be a good idea to ask for political asylum in a democratic nation; that said, I have noticed for a long time that the Tibetans government in exile appeared confused about democracy and basic human rights, including freedom of praying whichever prayers one wishes to pray. It seems to me if the Dalai Lama or his “Karmapa” return to Tibet to help rule an ‘autonomous region’ that whatever ‘rights’ people have would be subject to first the Communist ideology of the Chinese government and then the puppet dictator of the Tibetan government; even if they elect a leader and a Parliament, without assuring basic human rights such as freedom of speech and religion, then there is simply a combination of the two worst forms of government available; communism and feudal theocractic dictatorship. I sincerely pray that the Tibetans in exile will adopt a better human rights policy in exile, and not willingly return to China as their puppets.

By: Vajratruth

Vajratruth — Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:37:41 +0000

Dear BlueUpali,

While I agree with what you have said, it is also clear that the trend of Chinese government is to allow religious practice to be more pervasive in China and the Tibetan Autonomous Region. If they have banned anyone from keeping or displaying the picture of the Dalai Lama, it is because the Tibetan people have taken the Dalai Lama to be a symbol of resistance towards Chinese sovereignty, and therefore the significance of His Holiness is political in nature.

The Tibetan government in exile however, seems to be trending the opposite direction and have banned the Shugden practice for some years now. I cannot think of any democracy that actually persecutes a segment of its population based on religion! So much for freedom of religion and democratic principles being exercised by the CTA.

By: BlueUpali

BlueUpali — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 02:22:57 +0000

While I rejoice that the Chinese officials have the good fortune to imprint on the lamas’ robes and that the government allows a modicum of religion, I am praying for both Tibetans and the mainland Chinese to have actual freedom of religion. The current regime is still to restrictive to make freedom and endowments meaningful; the government really just needs to relax so that people can direct their lives toward meaningful goals like enlightenment without having to get government clearance to travel; while I am not a follower of the Dalai Lama, of course people should be allowed to have his picture on their shrines, or any religious artifacts of their choice. Buddha images are very helpful for imprinting, and it is of great benefit to the Chinese that they see Buddhist lamas in robes. I sincerely hope the Tibetans in exile will not try to go back to China but remain in exile where they have much more freedom to actually practice. It would also be really helpful if Buddhist lamas would not try to run the government in exile; one of the problems when moving from a dictatorship to another form of government is that if democracy is not fully embraced, along with protection of human rights, that communism, with its totalitarian regime will be happy to step in.