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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the older time, the Tibetan leadership has always been exploiting the Tibetans. Common Tibetans were used as slaves to work for the landlord. After the Tibetans escape from Tibet, it is still the same, the CTA is using the Tibetans to ask for free money from the sponsors. Not only the CTA used the normal people, they also use high lamas to make money for them. The CTA knows the Dalai Lama is old now so they want to groom the 17th Karmapa to be the successor. Fortunately, the 17th Karmapa refused to become their puppet and ran away from them. The CTA is a lousy and failed leader. Tibetans cannot rely on them anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the older time, the Tibetan leadership has always been exploiting the Tibetans. Common Tibetans were used as slaves to work for the landlord. After the Tibetans escape from Tibet, it is still the same, the CTA is using the Tibetans to ask for free money from the sponsors. Not only the CTA used the normal people, they also use high lamas to make money for them. The CTA knows the Dalai Lama is old now so they want to groom the 17th Karmapa to be the successor. Fortunately, the 17th Karmapa refused to become their puppet and ran away from them. The CTA is a lousy and failed leader. Tibetans cannot rely on them anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2019 05:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje is a sincere Dharma practitioners. He wants to spread Dharma very badly because that is his mission of life. He can get money and fame by staying with the CTA and all he has to do is to listen to them but these are not what he wants. He took the risk to run away from the CTA so he can fulfil his wish to become a Dharma teacher.

Another courageous thing the 17th Karmpa Ogyen Trinley Dorje has done is the reconcile with the other Karmapa. If the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley is a power and money hunger lama, he will never reconcile with the other Karmapa. He will be doing what Lobsang Sangay is doing, traveling around the world, undermining the other Karmapa and claiming he is the real one, but he didn&#039;t. Both Karmapas even jointly written a long life prayer for Sharmapa. How wonderful!

The Karmapas can put down their difference so their lineage can continue to spread and benefit people, when is the CTA going to do the same to resolve the conflicts in the Tibetan community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley Dorje is a sincere Dharma practitioners. He wants to spread Dharma very badly because that is his mission of life. He can get money and fame by staying with the CTA and all he has to do is to listen to them but these are not what he wants. He took the risk to run away from the CTA so he can fulfil his wish to become a Dharma teacher.</p>
<p>Another courageous thing the 17th Karmpa Ogyen Trinley Dorje has done is the reconcile with the other Karmapa. If the 17th Karmapa Ogyen Trinley is a power and money hunger lama, he will never reconcile with the other Karmapa. He will be doing what Lobsang Sangay is doing, traveling around the world, undermining the other Karmapa and claiming he is the real one, but he didn&#8217;t. Both Karmapas even jointly written a long life prayer for Sharmapa. How wonderful!</p>
<p>The Karmapas can put down their difference so their lineage can continue to spread and benefit people, when is the CTA going to do the same to resolve the conflicts in the Tibetan community?</p>
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		<title>By: Devi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2019 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not difficult to see how the CTA operates. Everything they do,  they make sure they get benefits for themselves. It is never about the welfare or benefits of the Tibetans. 

In the beginning, the CTA happily &#039;recognised&#039; the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley who escaped from China to India because the CTA was already planning to groom the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley as the successor of the Dalai Lama. It is not because they want to preserve the precious Karma Kagyu lineage or being the mediator to help to resolve the conflict in Karma Kagyu lineage. Their involvement in the two Karmapas issue had actually complicated the things and cause more tension in Karma Kagyu lineage. 

Now that the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has run away from India and never to come back, the CTA has not said anything to clear people&#039;s doubts. The two Karmapas met up, what&#039;s next? This is what people are interested to know but the CTA remains quiet about it. The reason is simple, there is no benefit for CTA to get further involved in this issue so they refuse to react to it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not difficult to see how the CTA operates. Everything they do,  they make sure they get benefits for themselves. It is never about the welfare or benefits of the Tibetans. </p>
<p>In the beginning, the CTA happily &#8216;recognised&#8217; the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley who escaped from China to India because the CTA was already planning to groom the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley as the successor of the Dalai Lama. It is not because they want to preserve the precious Karma Kagyu lineage or being the mediator to help to resolve the conflict in Karma Kagyu lineage. Their involvement in the two Karmapas issue had actually complicated the things and cause more tension in Karma Kagyu lineage. </p>
<p>Now that the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has run away from India and never to come back, the CTA has not said anything to clear people&#8217;s doubts. The two Karmapas met up, what&#8217;s next? This is what people are interested to know but the CTA remains quiet about it. The reason is simple, there is no benefit for CTA to get further involved in this issue so they refuse to react to it.<br />
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		<title>By: Ngawang Jigme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ngawang Jigme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2019 17:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Unlike 5 years ago, Tibetan leader Lobsang Sangay is not invited to Prime Minister Modi&#039;s swearing-in ceremony this time. It is clear that PM Modi of India snubs the Tibetan leadership once again in favour of deeper ties with China. The Tibetan leadership finds itself increasingly isolated as nobody wants to offend China by lending any support to the ungrateful Tibetans. &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;q&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size:1.4em;color:red&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership for swearing-in ceremony&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
By Tenzin Dharpo
May. 30, 2019
DHARAMSHALA, May 30: The Indian Prime Minister who is fresh off of a massive win in the Indian Lok Sabha elections has done a U-turn by not inviting exile Tibetan government’s President to the swearing in ceremony due to be held later today, in a bid to not anger Beijing.
The President of the exile Tibetan government, known officially as the Central Tibetan Administration, Dr. Lobsang Sangay’s absence today at the Rashtrapati Bhavan in New Delhi marks a stark contrast to 2014 when the elected Tibetan leader was seated in the former rows at the ceremony when PM Modi was sworn into office the first time around. 
The invitation to Dr. Sangay in May 2014 drew strong objection from the Chinese government who lodged an official protest censuring New Delhi’s disregard for the so-called ‘One-China policy’. Many said at the time that the invite was posturing at most, of Modi’s intent to India’s neighbor and biggest rivals both in Asia and global arenas. 
The New Delhi-Beijing relations post the Doklam stand off and Wuhan summit has meant that India has given a cold shoulder to the exile Tibetan set up, thereby taking a step back in using the much-touted ‘Tibet card’. The shift in policy has markedly been seen on the ground with New Delhi issuing an advisory to senior leaders to avoid His Holiness the Dalai Lama or pushing the CTA to shift the “thank you India” ceremony from New Delhi to Dharamshala last year.
The head of the Tibetan polity who extended pleasantries to PM Modi on his win, however may have anticipated the snub. Days after Modi’s historic election win, Sangay flew to the United States and is scheduled to return on June 5 to India next week.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Unlike 5 years ago, Tibetan leader Lobsang Sangay is not invited to Prime Minister Modi&#8217;s swearing-in ceremony this time. It is clear that PM Modi of India snubs the Tibetan leadership once again in favour of deeper ties with China. The Tibetan leadership finds itself increasingly isolated as nobody wants to offend China by lending any support to the ungrateful Tibetans. </b></p>
<p><q><span style="font-size:1.4em;color:red"><b>PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership for swearing-in ceremony</b></span><br />
By Tenzin Dharpo<br />
May. 30, 2019<br />
DHARAMSHALA, May 30: The Indian Prime Minister who is fresh off of a massive win in the Indian Lok Sabha elections has done a U-turn by not inviting exile Tibetan government’s President to the swearing in ceremony due to be held later today, in a bid to not anger Beijing.<br />
The President of the exile Tibetan government, known officially as the Central Tibetan Administration, Dr. Lobsang Sangay’s absence today at the Rashtrapati Bhavan in New Delhi marks a stark contrast to 2014 when the elected Tibetan leader was seated in the former rows at the ceremony when PM Modi was sworn into office the first time around.<br />
The invitation to Dr. Sangay in May 2014 drew strong objection from the Chinese government who lodged an official protest censuring New Delhi’s disregard for the so-called ‘One-China policy’. Many said at the time that the invite was posturing at most, of Modi’s intent to India’s neighbor and biggest rivals both in Asia and global arenas.<br />
The New Delhi-Beijing relations post the Doklam stand off and Wuhan summit has meant that India has given a cold shoulder to the exile Tibetan set up, thereby taking a step back in using the much-touted ‘Tibet card’. The shift in policy has markedly been seen on the ground with New Delhi issuing an advisory to senior leaders to avoid His Holiness the Dalai Lama or pushing the CTA to shift the “thank you India” ceremony from New Delhi to Dharamshala last year.<br />
The head of the Tibetan polity who extended pleasantries to PM Modi on his win, however may have anticipated the snub. Days after Modi’s historic election win, Sangay flew to the United States and is scheduled to return on June 5 to India next week.<br />
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		<title>By: Mountains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mountains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Apr 2019 06:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=orange class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;1st Time Dalai Lama Finally Admits His Illness Was Serious&lt;/font&gt;

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;In the past it is customary to cover up the Dalai Lama&#039;s illnesses. It could be to not worry his flock. It could also be to not show the world he is just another vulnerable human being. &lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Or it could be he does not want to disappoint people to show he is not a god?&lt;/font&gt; Whatever the reasons, the Dalai Lama and regime are well known for covering up his serious illnesses. In the past few years he had cancer of the prostate and that was covered up till the press dug it up. Now with this new video just out April 2019, Dalai Lama admits he was recently very ill. It was serious. &lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Unfortunately the Tibetan cause will die with the Dalai Lama when he passes. He did nothing to groom up a new leader as he is a dictator. A ruler for life. &lt;font color=blue class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;He has been in power for over 60 years. He will never groom up another person to replace him because he is touted as a god.&lt;/font&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;

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<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">In the past it is customary to cover up the Dalai Lama&#8217;s illnesses. It could be to not worry his flock. It could also be to not show the world he is just another vulnerable human being. <font color=blue class="bbcode-color">Or it could be he does not want to disappoint people to show he is not a god?</font> Whatever the reasons, the Dalai Lama and regime are well known for covering up his serious illnesses. In the past few years he had cancer of the prostate and that was covered up till the press dug it up. Now with this new video just out April 2019, Dalai Lama admits he was recently very ill. It was serious. </strong></p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Unfortunately the Tibetan cause will die with the Dalai Lama when he passes. He did nothing to groom up a new leader as he is a dictator. A ruler for life. <font color=blue class="bbcode-color">He has been in power for over 60 years. He will never groom up another person to replace him because he is touted as a god.</font> </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 05:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Indian government did not like it when the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley did not inform the Indian government of his intention to give up the RC card to become a citizen of the Republic of Dominica. They think the Karmapa is ungrateful not because of his choice. It was mainly because the Indian government has actually given the Karmapa some favours before he flew to the US and they felt betrayed.

Before the Karmapa went to the US, the Indian government has allowed the Karmapa to visit Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim, except Rumtek monastery. They issued him the visa to visit US for a short period of time. However, the Karmapa did not come back to India within the given time period and kept giving excuses to avoid going back. What made the Indian government even more upset was his plan to take on the citizenship of the Republic of Dominica and he didn&#039;t inform the Indian government. 

I can understand why the Karmapa did that. He has always wanted to travel so he can meet his international students and give them Dharma teachings. Living in Dharamsala and be controlled by the CTA were not something very pleasant for the Karmapa. He had to do this in order to escape from the CTA. I believe he does not disrespect the Indian government, but the CTA has left him no choice but to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indian government did not like it when the Karmapa Ogyen Trinley did not inform the Indian government of his intention to give up the RC card to become a citizen of the Republic of Dominica. They think the Karmapa is ungrateful not because of his choice. It was mainly because the Indian government has actually given the Karmapa some favours before he flew to the US and they felt betrayed.</p>
<p>Before the Karmapa went to the US, the Indian government has allowed the Karmapa to visit Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim, except Rumtek monastery. They issued him the visa to visit US for a short period of time. However, the Karmapa did not come back to India within the given time period and kept giving excuses to avoid going back. What made the Indian government even more upset was his plan to take on the citizenship of the Republic of Dominica and he didn&#8217;t inform the Indian government. </p>
<p>I can understand why the Karmapa did that. He has always wanted to travel so he can meet his international students and give them Dharma teachings. Living in Dharamsala and be controlled by the CTA were not something very pleasant for the Karmapa. He had to do this in order to escape from the CTA. I believe he does not disrespect the Indian government, but the CTA has left him no choice but to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dhadul</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2019 23:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>India until now is still being influenced by the Tibetan government and that is why India is now no longer recognised Karmapa Ogyen Trinley as the 17th Karmapa. Karmapa was being controlled by the CTA when he was still in India, and he does not have any freedom at all. He can&#039;t even get the proper education that the Karmapa should have to carry out his religious duties. 

Without knowledge and freedom, the Karmapa is not doing his job to lead the Karma Kagyu people. This is precisely what the CTA wants. They want a puppet that is famous but controllable so that he can do their bidding for them. 

Too bad their plans failed, and Karmapa manage to escape to the US. However, I heard that Karmapa is thinking about going back to India and I wish that the news is fake. If the Karmapa enter into India&#039;s border, I am sure the Tibetan government will regain control on him again because there are a lot of court cases created by the CTA to control him. Karmapa is better off in foreign countries because it has proven that he is more productive outside of India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>India until now is still being influenced by the Tibetan government and that is why India is now no longer recognised Karmapa Ogyen Trinley as the 17th Karmapa. Karmapa was being controlled by the CTA when he was still in India, and he does not have any freedom at all. He can&#8217;t even get the proper education that the Karmapa should have to carry out his religious duties. </p>
<p>Without knowledge and freedom, the Karmapa is not doing his job to lead the Karma Kagyu people. This is precisely what the CTA wants. They want a puppet that is famous but controllable so that he can do their bidding for them. </p>
<p>Too bad their plans failed, and Karmapa manage to escape to the US. However, I heard that Karmapa is thinking about going back to India and I wish that the news is fake. If the Karmapa enter into India&#8217;s border, I am sure the Tibetan government will regain control on him again because there are a lot of court cases created by the CTA to control him. Karmapa is better off in foreign countries because it has proven that he is more productive outside of India.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2019 07:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey CTA! The Karmapa ain&#039;t coming back to India! The Karmapa was telling the media that he would go back to India to attend the religious conference organised by the CTA. But in the end, he did not. The reason he gave was that the Indian government refused to give him the visa to return. 

The Karmapa gave up the Indian IC was a smart choice. If he continues to use the Indian IC, he would still be under the control of the CTA. If he ever travels to India with the Indian IC, he can be easily detained by the Indian government. His movement will be very restricted.

To become a political puppet is not what he wanted, he has said he just wanted to be a Dharma practitioner and a Dharma teacher. He regretted coming to India thinking he would have more opportunities to learn from the great masters but it was not the case. This is what CTA does, they don&#039;t care about the continuity of a lineage, they just want to make use of the high lama to achieve their personal interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey CTA! The Karmapa ain&#8217;t coming back to India! The Karmapa was telling the media that he would go back to India to attend the religious conference organised by the CTA. But in the end, he did not. The reason he gave was that the Indian government refused to give him the visa to return. </p>
<p>The Karmapa gave up the Indian IC was a smart choice. If he continues to use the Indian IC, he would still be under the control of the CTA. If he ever travels to India with the Indian IC, he can be easily detained by the Indian government. His movement will be very restricted.</p>
<p>To become a political puppet is not what he wanted, he has said he just wanted to be a Dharma practitioner and a Dharma teacher. He regretted coming to India thinking he would have more opportunities to learn from the great masters but it was not the case. This is what CTA does, they don&#8217;t care about the continuity of a lineage, they just want to make use of the high lama to achieve their personal interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2019 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard? The Indian government does not recognise Karmapa Ogyen Trinley as the 17th Karmapa now. 

I do not think the Indian government is not recognising the 17th Karmapa will be any effect on Karmapa Ogyen Trinley. The Indian government has no authority when it comes to spiritual matters in the Karma Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism. On the other hand, Karmapa Ogyen Trinley got His Holiness&#039;s recognition a long time ago as the 17th Karmapa. 

But it is evident that the Indian government is not happy with the Karmapa&#039;s recent activity of accepting a Dominican passport. It is possible that the Indian&#039;s government decision to be fuelled by the Tibetan&#039;s government tricks to put pressure on the Karmapa. They are trying to take revenge on him since he chose to abandon them. 

Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has a lot of students in the west, and he should not come back. After so many years, he finally can taste the freedom away from CTA and carry out his duties as the spiritual head of the Karma Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard? The Indian government does not recognise Karmapa Ogyen Trinley as the 17th Karmapa now. </p>
<p>I do not think the Indian government is not recognising the 17th Karmapa will be any effect on Karmapa Ogyen Trinley. The Indian government has no authority when it comes to spiritual matters in the Karma Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism. On the other hand, Karmapa Ogyen Trinley got His Holiness&#8217;s recognition a long time ago as the 17th Karmapa. </p>
<p>But it is evident that the Indian government is not happy with the Karmapa&#8217;s recent activity of accepting a Dominican passport. It is possible that the Indian&#8217;s government decision to be fuelled by the Tibetan&#8217;s government tricks to put pressure on the Karmapa. They are trying to take revenge on him since he chose to abandon them. </p>
<p>Karmapa Ogyen Trinley has a lot of students in the west, and he should not come back. After so many years, he finally can taste the freedom away from CTA and carry out his duties as the spiritual head of the Karma Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism.</p>
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