Comments on: Tibetan Youths Question Dorje Shugden Ban

By: tenzin ngodup

tenzin ngodup — Mon, 10 Aug 2015 00:44:03 +0000

my Name is Tenzin Ngodup, i am non shugden group, shugden peoples making problems that i see clearly and i also see non shugden Tibetan peoples also making problem to the shugden people. that is not good too. so we are same as them. i think to using bad words to them and counting separate to them is wrong, it makes problem to them thatswhy they are making problem to us. if we dont make any problem to them then at what point they point to us. so i think we counting them as bad peoples is most wrong thing. i m very sorry my english is poor. hope everybody understand what i trying to say. Tasha deleck. bod gyalo!!! long live dalai lama.

By: lee watson

lee watson — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:34:32 +0000

Some information on Dorje Shugden taken from Wikipedia. This is a highly complex issue and not easy to decipher, unless you have vast amounts of knowledge and experience in Tibetan Buddhism. If you are from outside of Tibet, its a very tough to get your head around. Religious freedoms are their , but the public are easily corrupted by dodgy teachings, interpretations and propaganda. (Hello China!) Research much, experience much, judge little. Even better, go to Mcleod Ganj and visit the Dalai Lama. Ask a high Lama in the Gelug lineage to explain things from their point of view. Merge both sides to find peace and peace we shall find. Free Tibet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Persecution by Phabongkha and his disciples[edit]
David Kay notes that Dorje Shugden was a key element in Pabongkhapa Déchen Nyingpo’s persecution of the Rimé movement:

As the Gelug agent of the Tibetan government in Kham (Khams) (Eastern Tibet), and in response to the Rimed movement that had originated and was flowering in that region, Phabongkha Rinpoche and his disciples employed repressive measures against non-Gelug sects. Religious artefacts associated with Padmasambhava – who is revered as a ‘second Buddha’ by Nyingma practitioners – were destroyed, and non-Gelug, and particularly Nyingma, monasteries were forcibly converted to the Gelug position. A key element of Phabongkha Rinpoche’s outlook was the cult of the protective deity Dorje Shugden, which he married to the idea of Gelug exclusivism and employed against other traditions as well as against those within the Gelug who had eclectic tendencies.[16]

His teaching tour of Kham in 1938 was a seminal phase, leading to a hardening of his exclusivism and the adoption of a militantly sectarian stance. In reaction to the flourishing Rimed movement and the perceived decline of Gelug monasteries in that region, Phabongkha and his disciples spearheaded a revival movement, promoting the supremacy of the Gelug as the only pure tradition. He now regarded the inclusivism of Gelug monks who practised according to the teachings of other schools as a threat to the integrity of the Gelug tradition, and he aggressively opposed the influence of other traditions, particularly the Nyingma, whose teachings were deemed mistaken and deceptive. A key element of Phabongkha’s revival movement was the practice of relying upon Dorje Shugden, the main function of the deity now being presented as “the protection of the Ge-luk tradition through violent means, even including the killing of its enemies.”[17]

Ironically the Rimé movement, primarily composed of the Sakya, Kagyu and Nyingma schools, arose in the first place as a result of Gelug persecution.[18]

By: Geshe

Geshe — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:49:46 +0000

You are all evil Chinese!!
His Holiness the Dalai Lama is the most peaceful Buddha heart being! Dorje Shugden worship is angry and evil! After many years of study, it is true that I see the anger of DS and how the people who worship this dark and angry idol are also very mean and bitter beings! Shugden worship is called very bad and His Holiness is correct to say that if you wish to worship DS then he is not your Guru!! This is a simple choice! If you so desperate to worship DS, then no one prevents you!! Leave His Holiness alone and leave the peaceful followers of His Holiness alone!!! Your actions are very clear anger from so much evil Shugden worship!

By: ER

ER — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 19:54:58 +0000

..these beatiful young people!! I do hope they did’nt get problems after this

By: norbu

norbu — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:28:04 +0000

if you really know tibetan then you will clearly hear what CTA was saying. The subtitle of video is not full and is bias cutting critical answer. Also here they are putting misleading information.. ok for all those who don’t know tibetan cause the in video discussion are all in tibetan i will clarify all ..
CTA and His holiness Dalai lama has never ban shugden.. intact they were given monastry to do their religion.
CTA has given identity card to all tibetan (including shugden follower) , rc and ic which is needed to stay in India. Also CTA has allowed shugden follower to go any where including school and hospital , everywhere. So there no Ban at all. Why still you all creating misinformation.. We all are tibetan and need to be unity.

By: eyesoftara

eyesoftara — Mon, 03 Nov 2014 06:44:07 +0000

The Sikyong really did horribly and showed impatient and tried to stream rolled his way through without really answering the questions. He was caught by more than one of the Tibetan youth about the “Chinese money” and the signs in front of shops that discriminate against Shugden practitioners but the Sikyong in his stupidity wasn’t even prepared to provide a proper answer. Importantly, this session must have left these youth plenty of dissatisfaction and doubts. CTA needs to be careful. Youth are leaders of the future. You cannot lie to them. But then the whole basis of the ban is a lie. So it is inevitable that the lie will be seen thought and the truth will prevail. And it will not be long.

By: Shambola

Shambola — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:02:36 +0000

Shut up Cunt!!

By: Gerioud

Gerioud — Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:01:49 +0000

@Shambola, Why are you saying like this?

By: Donovan Giraud

Donovan Giraud — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 01:31:17 +0000

It’s very simple. As I see it, HDDL is ‘…just a monk’, as he has been saying for a while. And as an ordinary human being, he has become addicted to the love/attention and money that a naiive populace has been showering upon him…thinking that he is a God. No one should be put in that position! But he has and now he fears that he will lose all this love/attention and money, lose his following…to a true Dharma Protector, Dorje Shugden.

By: mary scott

mary scott — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:07:31 +0000

FAITH CAN NOT BE WIPED OUT OR BANNED BY ANY LEADERS IN THE PAST AND IN THE FUTURE.
EVEN MAO TSETUNG WITH STRONG EXTREME COMMUNIST IDEAOLOGY DID NOT ABLE TO WIPE OUT THE FAITH OF PEOPLE OF CHINA AND TIBET THROUGH THE USE OF FORCE AND SOCIAL SEGREGATION.

HOW CAN THEN CTA, THE SMALL EXILE POWER HOUSE COULD CARRY ON SUCH UN-DEMOCRATIC POLICY ON ITS OWN POOR SIMPLE PEOPLE????.
IT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE BY THE WORLD EDUCATED PEOPLE.