Comments on: Spirits in Dharamsala https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/spirits-in-dharamsala/ The Protector whose time has come Mon, 02 Mar 2026 18:35:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Arisa https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/spirits-in-dharamsala/comment-page-1/#comment-15871 Arisa Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:24:50 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3934#comment-15871 When the Dalai Lama fled Tibet and went into Exile in India. Nehru gave him land in Dharamsala. This land became the home of Dalai Lama and also the Headquarters of the Tibetan government. In every 12 years Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Government and lay people will have a festival day when they celebrate Guru Padmasambhava Day. Tibetans and Dalai Lama will pay respects to Guru Rinpoche who has been subduing evil spirits transforming them into good spirits. Spirits are not enlightened beings. On this day three Spirits Nechung, Gadong and Tsering Ma wsill be summoned by the Dalai Lama through an Oracle to seek advise from them. Nechung will always advise Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama says Nechung is a spirit so is Dorje Shugden. The difference is why does Dalai Lama Ban one spirit Dorje Shugden but rely on another who he thinks is also a spirit and that is Nechung. If Dalai Lama bans Dorje Shugden then Nechung also should be banned. When the Dalai Lama fled Tibet and went into Exile in India. Nehru gave him land in Dharamsala. This land became the home of Dalai Lama and also the Headquarters of the Tibetan government. In every 12 years Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Government and lay people will have a festival day when they celebrate Guru Padmasambhava Day. Tibetans and Dalai Lama will pay respects to Guru Rinpoche who has been subduing evil spirits transforming them into good spirits. Spirits are not enlightened beings. On this day three Spirits Nechung, Gadong and Tsering Ma wsill be summoned by the Dalai Lama through an Oracle to seek advise from them. Nechung will always advise Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama says Nechung is a spirit so is Dorje Shugden. The difference is why does Dalai Lama Ban one spirit Dorje Shugden but rely on another who he thinks is also a spirit and that is Nechung. If Dalai Lama bans Dorje Shugden then Nechung also should be banned.

]]> By: tk https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/spirits-in-dharamsala/comment-page-1/#comment-13803 tk Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:10:26 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3934#comment-13803 Dear Mike Hume, 1. Who created the site is obviously not going to be answered for protection of all involved. The Tibetan Govt in exile has huge open campaigns against Dorje Shugden followers. 2. What qualifies to educate them? The qualifications lies in do you go away from this site with more understanding. If you do, then the purpose is fulfilled. Are you person doing anything to 'educate' or let people know what is happening-no offence to you. This site is a collection of writings, comments, videos, and thoughts from Masters, Scholars, teachers, writers, journalists, practitioners, and so on. It is quite a definitive site as I see it. 3. The purpose and motivation of this site is stated clearly on the Mission Statement on the home page of this site. Please take a read. 4. All questions cannot be answered fully, but partial answers are better than none. If we can't switch on the light in a large dark hall, better a candle lit than nothing. 5. The purpose of asking why the Dalai Lama needs an oracle is to point to the fact that Dalai Lama himself is listening to the advice of a subdued evil spirit Nechung. Guru Rinpoche subdued him, but does that mean Nechung instantly has wisdom to advice a high lama. Or on the temporal and spiritual affairs of Tibet? Of Buddhism. So if the Dalai Lama can consult a deity through the oracle, then why can't other great lamas do the same. Dorje Shugden is not a spirit but an enlightened being, hence nothing wrong in consulting him. The video shows the dichotomy in this. Dalai Lama warns us not to relate, ask or connect with spirits, but he is doing it himself. I hope this helps you with some of your questions. Yours in the dharma, TK Dear Mike Hume,

1. Who created the site is obviously not going to be answered for protection of all involved. The Tibetan Govt in exile has huge open campaigns against Dorje Shugden followers.

2. What qualifies to educate them? The qualifications lies in do you go away from this site with more understanding. If you do, then the purpose is fulfilled. Are you person doing anything to ‘educate’ or let people know what is happening-no offence to you. This site is a collection of writings, comments, videos, and thoughts from Masters, Scholars, teachers, writers, journalists, practitioners, and so on. It is quite a definitive site as I see it.

3. The purpose and motivation of this site is stated clearly on the Mission Statement on the home page of this site. Please take a read.

4. All questions cannot be answered fully, but partial answers are better than none. If we can’t switch on the light in a large dark hall, better a candle lit than nothing.

5. The purpose of asking why the Dalai Lama needs an oracle is to point to the fact that Dalai Lama himself is listening to the advice of a subdued evil spirit Nechung. Guru Rinpoche subdued him, but does that mean Nechung instantly has wisdom to advice a high lama. Or on the temporal and spiritual affairs of Tibet? Of Buddhism. So if the Dalai Lama can consult a deity through the oracle, then why can’t other great lamas do the same. Dorje Shugden is not a spirit but an enlightened being, hence nothing wrong in consulting him. The video shows the dichotomy in this. Dalai Lama warns us not to relate, ask or connect with spirits, but he is doing it himself.

I hope this helps you with some of your questions.

Yours in the dharma,

TK

]]> By: Mike Hume https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/spirits-in-dharamsala/comment-page-1/#comment-13235 Mike Hume Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:24:44 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3934#comment-13235 I ask the following questions with a mind of faith to anyone able to answer them. Who is responsible for creating this site and on whose authority? What qualifies them to educate us? I specifically don't want this question to sound critical, but on such a complex issue I don't think the words alone are enough. What is the purpose of this site? What is its motivation? We are asked a number of questions during the course of this video that are very difficult for anyone without a great deal of experience and understanding to answer. As one example, we are asked why does the Dalai Lama need to ask advice from an oracle? Well, I have personally witnessed my own teacher, in whom I have a great deal of faith, listening to the "advice" of an oracle. one of his own Long Life Prayers was "composed" by an oracle. So, I can't answer that question. I ask the following questions with a mind of faith to anyone able to answer them.
Who is responsible for creating this site and on whose authority? What qualifies them to educate us? I specifically don’t want this question to sound critical, but on such a complex issue I don’t think the words alone are enough.
What is the purpose of this site? What is its motivation?
We are asked a number of questions during the course of this video that are very difficult for anyone without a great deal of experience and understanding to answer. As one example, we are asked why does the Dalai Lama need to ask advice from an oracle? Well, I have personally witnessed my own teacher, in whom I have a great deal of faith, listening to the “advice” of an oracle. one of his own Long Life Prayers was “composed” by an oracle. So, I can’t answer that question.

]]> By: tk https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/spirits-in-dharamsala/comment-page-1/#comment-12012 tk Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:05:50 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3934#comment-12012 Dear Webmaster/Admin, What a spectacular job you did for this video. I fold my hands to your dedication, hardwork, steadfast devotion to Dorje Shugden as clearly seen by this definitive website. The most well known and authoratitive Dorje Shugden website on this planet. Also you have a wonderful forum and guestbook sign in which encourages democratic expression of thoughts, something the Tibetan Govt In Exile never allowed their own people. They are very much like the current Myanmar govt. Now you have come out with this incredible compilation 'Spirits In Dharamsala' (so aptly titled) video with clear explanations even for new people who come to this website would take notice and learn something from viewing. Thank you so much for your work, dedication, and devotion THAT CLEARLY MANIFESTS IN ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THIS WEBSITE. With folded hands, deep respects and gratitude, TK P.S. If you need any financial assistance towards this website, please kindly let me know. I can't do anything towards this, but I can help you if you allow me the great honour. Dear Webmaster/Admin,

What a spectacular job you did for this video. I fold my hands to your dedication, hardwork, steadfast devotion to Dorje Shugden as clearly seen by this definitive website. The most well known and authoratitive Dorje Shugden website on this planet.

Also you have a wonderful forum and guestbook sign in which encourages democratic expression of thoughts, something the Tibetan Govt In Exile never allowed their own people. They are very much like the current Myanmar govt.

Now you have come out with this incredible compilation ‘Spirits In Dharamsala’ (so aptly titled) video with clear explanations even for new people who come to this website would take notice and learn something from viewing.

Thank you so much for your work, dedication, and devotion THAT CLEARLY MANIFESTS IN ALL THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THIS WEBSITE.

With folded hands, deep respects and gratitude,

TK

P.S. If you need any financial assistance towards this website, please kindly let me know. I can’t do anything towards this, but I can help you if you allow me the great honour.

]]> By: tk https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/spirits-in-dharamsala/comment-page-1/#comment-11800 tk Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:07:39 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=3934#comment-11800 Why does the Dalai lama need to consult oracles/Nechung at all??? Why does the Dalai lama need to consult oracles/Nechung at all???

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