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	<description>The Protector whose time has come</description>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my personal humble opinion Nechung is a unenlightened spirit who has lost his way and become confused and jealous. He has harmed the cause of Tibet. With respect, I think now is the time to step down and let a more qualified enlightened oracle take his places I personally have experienced his anger. I hope his find enlightenment and pure happiness soon. I am praying for him xx  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my personal humble opinion Nechung is a unenlightened spirit who has lost his way and become confused and jealous. He has harmed the cause of Tibet. With respect, I think now is the time to step down and let a more qualified enlightened oracle take his places I personally have experienced his anger. I hope his find enlightenment and pure happiness soon. I am praying for him xx  .</p>
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		<title>By: Rinchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rinchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 21:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very detailed article about Nechung. It has allowed the readers to know who is Nechung better. It describes the process of each oracle and how they came about which is what I really like about this article. 

It is said that when the Dalai Lama escaped to India, he consulted another oracle as well. He consulted the oracle of Dorje Shugden on his escape to India. And because of this, Nechung is upset and has claim that Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit and we should not make prayers to Dorje Shuden. 

In my opinion, it is because of the fact that Nechung is unenlightened and jealous of Dorje Shugden&#039;s popularity among the high lamas of the Tibetan Buddhism, hence, there is such a ban. 

Thus, Dorje Shugden would not be an evil spirit, instead he is an enlightened protector. Otherwise, it would be not logical for the Dalai Lama to consult the oracle of Dorje Shugden as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very detailed article about Nechung. It has allowed the readers to know who is Nechung better. It describes the process of each oracle and how they came about which is what I really like about this article. </p>
<p>It is said that when the Dalai Lama escaped to India, he consulted another oracle as well. He consulted the oracle of Dorje Shugden on his escape to India. And because of this, Nechung is upset and has claim that Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit and we should not make prayers to Dorje Shuden. </p>
<p>In my opinion, it is because of the fact that Nechung is unenlightened and jealous of Dorje Shugden&#8217;s popularity among the high lamas of the Tibetan Buddhism, hence, there is such a ban. </p>
<p>Thus, Dorje Shugden would not be an evil spirit, instead he is an enlightened protector. Otherwise, it would be not logical for the Dalai Lama to consult the oracle of Dorje Shugden as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aiyo, the great 14th is so funny, if DS is evil spirit, Lord Setrab would already captured him and sent him to Tushita haven....and since the great 14th is so powerful, he would has used his meditation power to &#039;destroy&#039; DS much much earlier without any effort....

The thing is, until now we still talk non-stop how evil DS is...blah blah blah....like old women....what a waste of time.....hey DL, put your words on your mouth already lol....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aiyo, the great 14th is so funny, if DS is evil spirit, Lord Setrab would already captured him and sent him to Tushita haven&#8230;.and since the great 14th is so powerful, he would has used his meditation power to &#8216;destroy&#8217; DS much much earlier without any effort&#8230;.</p>
<p>The thing is, until now we still talk non-stop how evil DS is&#8230;blah blah blah&#8230;.like old women&#8230;.what a waste of time&#8230;..hey DL, put your words on your mouth already lol&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DSFriend</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSFriend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing the western culture to the asian culture, the phenomena of oracles, of mediums, of people taking trance is definitely more prevalent. To the western mind, we tend to view this phenomena as archaic, superstitious and unreliable. 

If we have this view, will this skepticism work for us or against us in our Buddhistic path. If we believe in the Buddha, do we also believe in the many manifestations of the Buddhas including in the form of Dharmapala. 

In Tibetan Buddhism, Kuten is the honorific given to a person who has gone through disciplined and extensive training to take trance of higher beings, some enlightened such as Dorje Shugden and some not, such as Nechung.

This article mentions how Nechung has been consulted for hundreds of years now by the Tibetan Government. We may take a critical stance and question the validity of such an archaic method of information gathering. However, I can also take an opposing stance and question the advice of the advisors of political leaders. Many of which have landed us in wars and countless lives lost throughout history... On this basis, who has the right method of ruling a country? I am neither for nor against Nechung..but merely exploring from different viewpoints. 

Nechung was oath bound by Padmasambhava. Nechung Kuten is given the rank of deputy minister in the exiled Tibetan government hierarchy. 
According to the Dalai Lama, &quot;Tibetans rely on oracles for various reasons. The purpose of the oracles is not just to foretell the future. They are called upon as protectors and sometimes used as healers. However, their primary function is to protect the Buddha Dharma and its practitioners.&quot;(source wikipedia) 

I find it fascinating with the availability of different sources of intelligence. It is said that Nechung&#039;s time is nearing to be enlightened. And why not..? Nechung, just like all of us are sentient beings with potential to achieve enlightenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing the western culture to the asian culture, the phenomena of oracles, of mediums, of people taking trance is definitely more prevalent. To the western mind, we tend to view this phenomena as archaic, superstitious and unreliable. </p>
<p>If we have this view, will this skepticism work for us or against us in our Buddhistic path. If we believe in the Buddha, do we also believe in the many manifestations of the Buddhas including in the form of Dharmapala. </p>
<p>In Tibetan Buddhism, Kuten is the honorific given to a person who has gone through disciplined and extensive training to take trance of higher beings, some enlightened such as Dorje Shugden and some not, such as Nechung.</p>
<p>This article mentions how Nechung has been consulted for hundreds of years now by the Tibetan Government. We may take a critical stance and question the validity of such an archaic method of information gathering. However, I can also take an opposing stance and question the advice of the advisors of political leaders. Many of which have landed us in wars and countless lives lost throughout history&#8230; On this basis, who has the right method of ruling a country? I am neither for nor against Nechung..but merely exploring from different viewpoints. </p>
<p>Nechung was oath bound by Padmasambhava. Nechung Kuten is given the rank of deputy minister in the exiled Tibetan government hierarchy.<br />
According to the Dalai Lama, &#8220;Tibetans rely on oracles for various reasons. The purpose of the oracles is not just to foretell the future. They are called upon as protectors and sometimes used as healers. However, their primary function is to protect the Buddha Dharma and its practitioners.&#8221;(source wikipedia) </p>
<p>I find it fascinating with the availability of different sources of intelligence. It is said that Nechung&#8217;s time is nearing to be enlightened. And why not..? Nechung, just like all of us are sentient beings with potential to achieve enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: Arisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Tibet everyone depends on a Protector to tell them of the coming events or to request for protection or even as a healer as in the mountains in Tibet there are no doctors only traditional healing using herbs. All this are done by invoking the Protectors thru an Oracle. The Protectors will talk thru an Oracle or medium. In the State of Tibet, Nechung is very popular and is also Dalai Lama&#039;s Protector. His Holiness will call upon Nechung through an Oracle. Nechung will always be there as he is suppose to take of care of Dalai Lama as his guardian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Tibet everyone depends on a Protector to tell them of the coming events or to request for protection or even as a healer as in the mountains in Tibet there are no doctors only traditional healing using herbs. All this are done by invoking the Protectors thru an Oracle. The Protectors will talk thru an Oracle or medium. In the State of Tibet, Nechung is very popular and is also Dalai Lama&#8217;s Protector. His Holiness will call upon Nechung through an Oracle. Nechung will always be there as he is suppose to take of care of Dalai Lama as his guardian.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is well-documented history of the Nechung oracles. There are 14 of them!There is a Nechung monastery and one can become a Nechung monk! Incredible! Nechung only serves the Dalai Lama and he is given the rank of a deputy minister in the Tibetan Government! Reliance on oracles remains very much a Tibetan way of life. One thing that struck me in this article is the close relationship between the Dalai Lama and Nechung. Nechung seemed to be very fond of the young Dalai Lama and took great care of him, rearranging his clothes if he dressed carelessly. This is evidence that the Dalai Lama can actually see Nechung. By inference, H.H. can see other beings that ordinary beings cannot see. I&#039;m not surprised they talk to each other like old friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is well-documented history of the Nechung oracles. There are 14 of them!There is a Nechung monastery and one can become a Nechung monk! Incredible! Nechung only serves the Dalai Lama and he is given the rank of a deputy minister in the Tibetan Government! Reliance on oracles remains very much a Tibetan way of life. One thing that struck me in this article is the close relationship between the Dalai Lama and Nechung. Nechung seemed to be very fond of the young Dalai Lama and took great care of him, rearranging his clothes if he dressed carelessly. This is evidence that the Dalai Lama can actually see Nechung. By inference, H.H. can see other beings that ordinary beings cannot see. I&#8217;m not surprised they talk to each other like old friends.</p>
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