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	<title>Comments on: FPMT Lineage Masters are Dorje Shugden Believers</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2019 09:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who give up Dorje Shugden practice just want an easy life and be in the good book of the Dalai Lama. What they have studied in the monastery or from their teacher, they don&#039;t remember or practice it. Guru devotion is fundamental in Vajrayana practice but yet people or organisation like FPMT betrayed their teacher. 

The students in FPMT conveniently agree with the CTA that Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, but they have forgotten their founder, Lama Yeshe was a strong practitioner of Dorje Shugden and he was very devoted to Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden has assisted him in establishing the centre and everything that he needed to spread Dharma. The students in FPMT are very ungrateful, they despise Dorje Shugden but at the same time using the resources provided by Dorje Shugden. 

If Dorje Shugden practitioners will all go to hell and never be able to come back in a human form, how come FPMT is able to find the reincarnation of Lama Yeshe? Shouldn&#039;t Lama Yeshe be born in hell already? Or Lama Osel is not the reincarnation of Lama Yeshe but someone else?  Time for the students in FPMT to wake up and face the reality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who give up Dorje Shugden practice just want an easy life and be in the good book of the Dalai Lama. What they have studied in the monastery or from their teacher, they don&#8217;t remember or practice it. Guru devotion is fundamental in Vajrayana practice but yet people or organisation like FPMT betrayed their teacher. </p>
<p>The students in FPMT conveniently agree with the CTA that Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, but they have forgotten their founder, Lama Yeshe was a strong practitioner of Dorje Shugden and he was very devoted to Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden has assisted him in establishing the centre and everything that he needed to spread Dharma. The students in FPMT are very ungrateful, they despise Dorje Shugden but at the same time using the resources provided by Dorje Shugden. </p>
<p>If Dorje Shugden practitioners will all go to hell and never be able to come back in a human form, how come FPMT is able to find the reincarnation of Lama Yeshe? Shouldn&#8217;t Lama Yeshe be born in hell already? Or Lama Osel is not the reincarnation of Lama Yeshe but someone else?  Time for the students in FPMT to wake up and face the reality!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2018 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FPMT giving up Dorje Shugden practice must have been motivated by money. They want to be political right and they don&#039;t want to lose their sponsors. Many lamas who didn&#039;t give up Dorje Shugden practice have lost many sponsors.

Perhaps it is out of fear that they might not survive without the big sponsors so FPMT decided to give up the practice their lama has given them. But what they didn&#039;t realise is that they have broken their Samaya with their lama and nothing they do will have any blessing at all. I think Lama Zopa didn&#039;t make this decision himself, he left it to his students to decide. But he is still practicing Dorje Shugden secretly.

The manifestation of the stroke suffered by Lama Zopa is a clear indication something is not right with the students. Lama Zopa might be taking on some heavy negative karma of the students by manifesting the stroke. As for Lama Osel, he must be quite disappointed with how FPMT is run, he has not parted fully from the center but he is not doing much for FPMT either. It is a pity that Lama Osel in this life is not able to do as much Dharma work as Lama Yeshe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FPMT giving up Dorje Shugden practice must have been motivated by money. They want to be political right and they don&#8217;t want to lose their sponsors. Many lamas who didn&#8217;t give up Dorje Shugden practice have lost many sponsors.</p>
<p>Perhaps it is out of fear that they might not survive without the big sponsors so FPMT decided to give up the practice their lama has given them. But what they didn&#8217;t realise is that they have broken their Samaya with their lama and nothing they do will have any blessing at all. I think Lama Zopa didn&#8217;t make this decision himself, he left it to his students to decide. But he is still practicing Dorje Shugden secretly.</p>
<p>The manifestation of the stroke suffered by Lama Zopa is a clear indication something is not right with the students. Lama Zopa might be taking on some heavy negative karma of the students by manifesting the stroke. As for Lama Osel, he must be quite disappointed with how FPMT is run, he has not parted fully from the center but he is not doing much for FPMT either. It is a pity that Lama Osel in this life is not able to do as much Dharma work as Lama Yeshe.</p>
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		<title>By: Lophun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lophun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 17:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand how a Lama like Lama Rinpoche can write things like this, when &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;it is well-known that he himself gave Dorje Shugden initiations and told the initiates that they were incurring a lifelong obligation to continue the practice&lt;/font&gt;, and that breaking such an obligation would incur grave negative karma. It is very confusing and frankly, depressing.

Lama Zopa has written some excellent books, such as his work on the Medicine Buddha. However, his logic in this foreword is gravely flawed and perhaps even essentially anti-Buddhist. For instance, he says, “If the Precious Victorious One, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, is not the actual Buddha and Arya Avalokiteshvara, then you can say that in this world there is no emanation of Buddha benefiting sentient beings. In this way bodhicitta and the entire teachings of the Buddha become false.”

Say what??? I do not know whether the Dalai Lama is or is not an emanation of Avalokiteshvara, though, based on his words and actions, I sincerely doubt it. (I mean, the man has repeatedly stated in countless interviews that he is not enlightened, and seems to relish scoffing at the notion that he might be). Regardless, &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;the fact that the Dalai Lama is or is not such an emanation has nothing whatsoever to do with whether there are other emanations of Buddha&lt;/font&gt; currently on earth benefitting sentient beings.

Logically, one does not rule out the possibility that other living Buddhas exist today, or other emanations of Avalokiteshvara, simply by denying that the Dalai Lama is such a one. If I deny that my wife is a panda bear, I am not denying that pandas exist. &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Indeed, to make a claim of exclusivity on the Dalai Lama’s behalf, as Lama Zopa has done, is really anti-Mahayanan in spirit, for it belittles and denigrates the efficacy of all other Buddhist schools and traditions.&lt;/font&gt; Someone seems to have imported the Roman Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility into Dharamsala, and now they are beginning to round up the infidels and burn them at the stake.

It is the height of irony that Lama Zopa urges practitioners to examine their beliefs openly and honestly, and then states as a matter of fact that the Dalai Lama is omniscient and one must adhere to what the ‘omniscient one’ says. &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Am I not permitted to question whether the Dalai Lama is truly omniscient, and to judge this claim by the evidence of the man’s words and actions?&lt;/font&gt; Am I not allowed to take him at his word when he says he is NOT omniscient? Am I not allowed to question his lack of success in defending the cause of Tibet, or his lack of compassion in his treatment of Shugden practitioners, or his bumbling manner in any number of interviews, or his willingness to be used as a CIA puppet or guest editor of a highly immoral fashion magazine?

Sadly, the recent actions of Lama Zopa and the Dalai Lama have completely soured me on Tibetan Buddhism. I have been forced to turn back to the Theravadan and Chinese teachings, because I will never again turn my will and intellect over to a guru who demands total obedience, even when he teaches one thing today and a completely different thing tomorrow. &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;With this version of Buddhism, it’s a heads-you-win, tails-I-lose situation for the sincere follower … any faults of the guru are really the fault of the practitioner, whose bad karma has caused those faults to manifest.&lt;/font&gt; And even when the guru manifests obvious error, he still is not to be questioned because the error again is in the eye of the practitioner and only through blind loyalty can he cleanse his karma to the point where sincere questioning is of any value. If this is the case, then there is no point in advising practitioners to question and judge the teachings, because their bad karma will not allow them to make reasonable judgments. Reason itself is banished; it has become soiled and fallen and no longer can be trusted. Blind obedience becomes the only permitted path … you must believe in the Dalai Lama because he is a priori infallible and any evidence to the contrary is not credible, because ONLY the Dalai Lama represents Buddha in today’s world and EVERYONE ELSE is deluded.

And so the question arises: &lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;if I am required to have blind faith in the Dalai Lama in order to be “saved”, what separates this form of Buddhism from any other exclusivist, country-club members only, religion?&lt;/font&gt; What separates Buddhism from the monotheistic religions once reason has been outlawed? You can use the same “your bad karma prevents you from seeing things as they are” argument to justify any religion, any cult, any superstition, any belief whatsoever. It might take a slightly different form — “your ways are not God’s ways,” or “your reason was broken in the original fall from grace of sinful man,” but the essence is the same: don’t trust yourself, look to others, particularly those who are held up as masters, for the truth. In this way, &lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=#0000ff class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Lama Zopa’s attempt to defend the Dalai Lama becomes an atomic weapon capable of destroying any and all religious belief, or empowering any and all zealots of every stripe&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.

I find all of this unworthy of the spirit of inquiry I believe Buddha Shakyamuni promoted, and the spirit of compassion that Avalokiteshvara represents. I hope that one day all the confusion that these modern-day avatars have sowed will be cleared up and those of us who relied upon them as examples and guides on the spiritual path will have our disappointments honestly and frankly acknowledged and rectified.

&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Comment left by a Howard&lt;/strong&gt; from http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/recognized-by-dorje-shugden-but-speaks-against-dorje-shugden/comment-page-1/#comment-911810


Pic attached: Kyabje Zong Rinpoche performs last rites for Venerable Lama Yeshe. Both these lamas were totally devoted to Dorje Shugden until their last days. Decades later, Lama Zopa who has abandoned his guru Lama Yeshe&#039;s practice of Dorje Shugden, to befriend the Dalai Lama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand how a Lama like Lama Rinpoche can write things like this, when <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">it is well-known that he himself gave Dorje Shugden initiations and told the initiates that they were incurring a lifelong obligation to continue the practice</font>, and that breaking such an obligation would incur grave negative karma. It is very confusing and frankly, depressing.</p>
<p>Lama Zopa has written some excellent books, such as his work on the Medicine Buddha. However, his logic in this foreword is gravely flawed and perhaps even essentially anti-Buddhist. For instance, he says, “If the Precious Victorious One, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, is not the actual Buddha and Arya Avalokiteshvara, then you can say that in this world there is no emanation of Buddha benefiting sentient beings. In this way bodhicitta and the entire teachings of the Buddha become false.”</p>
<p>Say what??? I do not know whether the Dalai Lama is or is not an emanation of Avalokiteshvara, though, based on his words and actions, I sincerely doubt it. (I mean, the man has repeatedly stated in countless interviews that he is not enlightened, and seems to relish scoffing at the notion that he might be). Regardless, <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">the fact that the Dalai Lama is or is not such an emanation has nothing whatsoever to do with whether there are other emanations of Buddha</font> currently on earth benefitting sentient beings.</p>
<p>Logically, one does not rule out the possibility that other living Buddhas exist today, or other emanations of Avalokiteshvara, simply by denying that the Dalai Lama is such a one. If I deny that my wife is a panda bear, I am not denying that pandas exist. <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">Indeed, to make a claim of exclusivity on the Dalai Lama’s behalf, as Lama Zopa has done, is really anti-Mahayanan in spirit, for it belittles and denigrates the efficacy of all other Buddhist schools and traditions.</font> Someone seems to have imported the Roman Catholic doctrine of papal infallibility into Dharamsala, and now they are beginning to round up the infidels and burn them at the stake.</p>
<p>It is the height of irony that Lama Zopa urges practitioners to examine their beliefs openly and honestly, and then states as a matter of fact that the Dalai Lama is omniscient and one must adhere to what the ‘omniscient one’ says. <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">Am I not permitted to question whether the Dalai Lama is truly omniscient, and to judge this claim by the evidence of the man’s words and actions?</font> Am I not allowed to take him at his word when he says he is NOT omniscient? Am I not allowed to question his lack of success in defending the cause of Tibet, or his lack of compassion in his treatment of Shugden practitioners, or his bumbling manner in any number of interviews, or his willingness to be used as a CIA puppet or guest editor of a highly immoral fashion magazine?</p>
<p>Sadly, the recent actions of Lama Zopa and the Dalai Lama have completely soured me on Tibetan Buddhism. I have been forced to turn back to the Theravadan and Chinese teachings, because I will never again turn my will and intellect over to a guru who demands total obedience, even when he teaches one thing today and a completely different thing tomorrow. <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">With this version of Buddhism, it’s a heads-you-win, tails-I-lose situation for the sincere follower … any faults of the guru are really the fault of the practitioner, whose bad karma has caused those faults to manifest.</font> And even when the guru manifests obvious error, he still is not to be questioned because the error again is in the eye of the practitioner and only through blind loyalty can he cleanse his karma to the point where sincere questioning is of any value. If this is the case, then there is no point in advising practitioners to question and judge the teachings, because their bad karma will not allow them to make reasonable judgments. Reason itself is banished; it has become soiled and fallen and no longer can be trusted. Blind obedience becomes the only permitted path … you must believe in the Dalai Lama because he is a priori infallible and any evidence to the contrary is not credible, because ONLY the Dalai Lama represents Buddha in today’s world and EVERYONE ELSE is deluded.</p>
<p>And so the question arises: <font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">if I am required to have blind faith in the Dalai Lama in order to be “saved”, what separates this form of Buddhism from any other exclusivist, country-club members only, religion?</font> What separates Buddhism from the monotheistic religions once reason has been outlawed? You can use the same “your bad karma prevents you from seeing things as they are” argument to justify any religion, any cult, any superstition, any belief whatsoever. It might take a slightly different form — “your ways are not God’s ways,” or “your reason was broken in the original fall from grace of sinful man,” but the essence is the same: don’t trust yourself, look to others, particularly those who are held up as masters, for the truth. In this way, <strong class="bbcode-strong"><font color=#0000ff class="bbcode-color">Lama Zopa’s attempt to defend the Dalai Lama becomes an atomic weapon capable of destroying any and all religious belief, or empowering any and all zealots of every stripe</font></strong>.</p>
<p>I find all of this unworthy of the spirit of inquiry I believe Buddha Shakyamuni promoted, and the spirit of compassion that Avalokiteshvara represents. I hope that one day all the confusion that these modern-day avatars have sowed will be cleared up and those of us who relied upon them as examples and guides on the spiritual path will have our disappointments honestly and frankly acknowledged and rectified.</p>
<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Comment left by a Howard</strong> from <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/recognized-by-dorje-shugden-but-speaks-against-dorje-shugden/comment-page-1/#comment-911810" rel="nofollow">http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/recognized-by-dorje-shugden-but-speaks-against-dorje-shugden/comment-page-1/#comment-911810</a></p>
<p>Pic attached: Kyabje Zong Rinpoche performs last rites for Venerable Lama Yeshe. Both these lamas were totally devoted to Dorje Shugden until their last days. Decades later, Lama Zopa who has abandoned his guru Lama Yeshe&#8217;s practice of Dorje Shugden, to befriend the Dalai Lama.
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In FPMT&#039;s centre called Tushita in Dharamsala, North India, they have a statue of Lama Yeshe in the form of Vajrasattva with consort. Now the question is simple: &lt;font color=#cc0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;If Lama Yeshe practised Dorje Shugden, then he is a bad lama, so why doesn&#039;t FPMT stop the homage/respect to their founding father Lama Yeshe?&lt;/font&gt; If they trust him, they will go to three lower realms for worshipping Lama Yeshe who worshipped Dorje Shugden. And all statues of Lama Yeshe should be discarded from all their centres right? In fact, in nearby Gaden Choling Nunnery in Dharamsala, the nun&#039;s took their Dorje Shugden statue out of their main prayer hall where it was worshipped for decades and destroyed the statue in the garbage dump and jumped up and down on it to further desecrate it. 

Furthermore they make a Dorje Shugden worshipping Lama Yeshe in the form of divinity as Buddha Vajrasattva. That is a double-whammy no right? Why is FPMT so contradictory? Why are they blind to this double standard? 

&lt;font color=#cc0000 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;If they wish to disassociate from Dorje Shugden lamas, they have to disassociate from their own centre-founding Lama who is Lama Yeshe.&lt;/font&gt; They must set the example right. Everyone knows Lama Yeshe worshipped, trusted and believed in Dorje Shugden till the end of his life. Lama Yeshe is the one that founded FPMT, so they have to be clean across the board and be honest right? If disassociate, then do it all the way. They should have no pictures, statues and images of Lama Yeshe at all. They should not be making images of him as a deity (Vajrasattva) as that is even more wrong according to their stance against Shugden and Shugden Lamas. 

Why encourage their members to worship a Dorje Shugden loving Lama like Lama Yeshe? That is what they are doing when they keep all his images in their centres around the world. They are sending the wrong message out. Lama Yeshe was wrong in their view to practice Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe broke his refuge vows by practicing Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe&#039;s lineage, teachings, initiations and commentaries are all corrupted because he worshipped Dorje Shugden. So they should ritually expel his images from their centres with immediate effect to be in the clean arena. 

Dalai Lama said if you worship Dorje Shugden, no one should associate with you and you will go to hell. So how come FPMT still keeps a statue of Lama Yeshe in many of their centres? Is that not hypocrisy? 

Photos attached: Lama Yeshe as Vajrasattva with Consort housed in Tushita Centre, Dharamsala AND Lama Zopa prostrating to a statue of Lama Yeshe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In FPMT&#8217;s centre called Tushita in Dharamsala, North India, they have a statue of Lama Yeshe in the form of Vajrasattva with consort. Now the question is simple: <font color=#cc0000 class="bbcode-color">If Lama Yeshe practised Dorje Shugden, then he is a bad lama, so why doesn&#8217;t FPMT stop the homage/respect to their founding father Lama Yeshe?</font> If they trust him, they will go to three lower realms for worshipping Lama Yeshe who worshipped Dorje Shugden. And all statues of Lama Yeshe should be discarded from all their centres right? In fact, in nearby Gaden Choling Nunnery in Dharamsala, the nun&#8217;s took their Dorje Shugden statue out of their main prayer hall where it was worshipped for decades and destroyed the statue in the garbage dump and jumped up and down on it to further desecrate it. </p>
<p>Furthermore they make a Dorje Shugden worshipping Lama Yeshe in the form of divinity as Buddha Vajrasattva. That is a double-whammy no right? Why is FPMT so contradictory? Why are they blind to this double standard? </p>
<p><font color=#cc0000 class="bbcode-color">If they wish to disassociate from Dorje Shugden lamas, they have to disassociate from their own centre-founding Lama who is Lama Yeshe.</font> They must set the example right. Everyone knows Lama Yeshe worshipped, trusted and believed in Dorje Shugden till the end of his life. Lama Yeshe is the one that founded FPMT, so they have to be clean across the board and be honest right? If disassociate, then do it all the way. They should have no pictures, statues and images of Lama Yeshe at all. They should not be making images of him as a deity (Vajrasattva) as that is even more wrong according to their stance against Shugden and Shugden Lamas. </p>
<p>Why encourage their members to worship a Dorje Shugden loving Lama like Lama Yeshe? That is what they are doing when they keep all his images in their centres around the world. They are sending the wrong message out. Lama Yeshe was wrong in their view to practice Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe broke his refuge vows by practicing Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe&#8217;s lineage, teachings, initiations and commentaries are all corrupted because he worshipped Dorje Shugden. So they should ritually expel his images from their centres with immediate effect to be in the clean arena. </p>
<p>Dalai Lama said if you worship Dorje Shugden, no one should associate with you and you will go to hell. So how come FPMT still keeps a statue of Lama Yeshe in many of their centres? Is that not hypocrisy? </p>
<p>Photos attached: Lama Yeshe as Vajrasattva with Consort housed in Tushita Centre, Dharamsala AND Lama Zopa prostrating to a statue of Lama Yeshe
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		<title>By: Tenzin Paljor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenzin Paljor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong class=&quot;bbcode-strong&quot;&gt;Lama Zopa, who has received sogtae (initiation of Dorje Shugden) from His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, had said that: &lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;Lama (Yeshe) and I practiced Shugden for many years. That was always the main thing that Lama did whenever there were problems to overcome. At the beginning of every Kopan course, Lama always did Shugden puja to eliminate hindrances.&quot;

&quot;My root guru, His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche; Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo, His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s guru’s root guru; His Holiness Zong Rinpoche, from whom many of the older students received the initiation of Shugden; and the previous incarnation of Gomo Rinpoche, who has a strong connection with Istituto Lama Tsongkhapa, here in Italy, all promoted the practice of Shugden.&quot;

Photos: 1) Teachings by H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to FPMT students. 2) As Lama Yeshe reached the end of his life, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche came to the hospital to do prayers for Lama Yeshe. Lama Yeshe was very devoted to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden till the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong class="bbcode-strong">Lama Zopa, who has received sogtae (initiation of Dorje Shugden) from His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, had said that: </strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Lama (Yeshe) and I practiced Shugden for many years. That was always the main thing that Lama did whenever there were problems to overcome. At the beginning of every Kopan course, Lama always did Shugden puja to eliminate hindrances.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;My root guru, His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche; Pabongka Dechen Nyingpo, His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s guru’s root guru; His Holiness Zong Rinpoche, from whom many of the older students received the initiation of Shugden; and the previous incarnation of Gomo Rinpoche, who has a strong connection with Istituto Lama Tsongkhapa, here in Italy, all promoted the practice of Shugden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Photos: 1) Teachings by H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to FPMT students. 2) As Lama Yeshe reached the end of his life, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche came to the hospital to do prayers for Lama Yeshe. Lama Yeshe was very devoted to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Dorje Shugden till the end.
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		<title>By: Thaimonk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thaimonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;font color=#1155Cc class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;It is sad - Lama Osel disrobed, never finished his studies, achieved nothing much in his secular life, just running around with his girlfriend and clubbing in Ibizia, Spain.&lt;/font&gt; His previous life accomplished so much with the help of his determination, hard work and Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe credited much of his success to the help he was bestowed by Dorje Shugden. By FPMT abanding Dorje Shugden, they broke their samaya with their lineage gurus such as Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche from whom they received the Dorje Shugden sogtae commitment practice. Also it was with Lama Yeshe’s permission they received sogtae from these great masters. By abandoning the practice, they broke their spiritual bond (samaya) which is sacred in tantra with Lama Yeshe and lineage lamas. So it is no surprise Lama Yeshe came back in this incarnation unable to manifest being a great dharma teacher like his previous life. It is a shame and embarrassment to FPMT that Lama Osel ended up not doing much. It is a testimony to their failure in keeping their samaya to their guru and lineage lamas. FPMT wanted fame and rub shoulders with the famous and in return, they lost Lama Yeshe. &lt;font color=#1155Cc class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;After Lama Zopa passes away, FPMT will just go down for sure. &lt;/font&gt;No one can take over. Breaking their samaya was the wrong thing to do. 

So many more pictures and information to read here: http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font color=#1155Cc class="bbcode-color">It is sad &#8211; Lama Osel disrobed, never finished his studies, achieved nothing much in his secular life, just running around with his girlfriend and clubbing in Ibizia, Spain.</font> His previous life accomplished so much with the help of his determination, hard work and Dorje Shugden. Lama Yeshe credited much of his success to the help he was bestowed by Dorje Shugden. By FPMT abanding Dorje Shugden, they broke their samaya with their lineage gurus such as Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche from whom they received the Dorje Shugden sogtae commitment practice. Also it was with Lama Yeshe’s permission they received sogtae from these great masters. By abandoning the practice, they broke their spiritual bond (samaya) which is sacred in tantra with Lama Yeshe and lineage lamas. So it is no surprise Lama Yeshe came back in this incarnation unable to manifest being a great dharma teacher like his previous life. It is a shame and embarrassment to FPMT that Lama Osel ended up not doing much. It is a testimony to their failure in keeping their samaya to their guru and lineage lamas. FPMT wanted fame and rub shoulders with the famous and in return, they lost Lama Yeshe. <font color=#1155Cc class="bbcode-color">After Lama Zopa passes away, FPMT will just go down for sure. </font>No one can take over. Breaking their samaya was the wrong thing to do. </p>
<p>So many more pictures and information to read here: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6197.0</a>
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		<title>By: Dalai Lama should set things right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalai Lama should set things right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dalai Lama,

Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.&lt;/font&gt; They don&#039;t speak out not because they don&#039;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There is no harmony.&lt;/font&gt; Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.

By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.

It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.&lt;/font&gt; You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.

Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.&lt;/font&gt;

You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.&lt;/font&gt; Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.&lt;/font&gt; Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.

No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.

&lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.&lt;/font&gt; There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.

You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.

After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.

Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.&lt;/font&gt; All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.

The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. &lt;font color=#cc4125 class=&quot;bbcode-color&quot;&gt;How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.&lt;/font&gt; Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.

Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dalai Lama,</p>
<p>Since you started the cruel ban against the 350 year Dorje Shugden practice, how has it benefit your Tibetan society and Buddhism in the world? <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Things have become worse and most educated Tibetans can see this.</font> They don&#8217;t speak out not because they don&#8217;t see your ban as wrong, but you instill fear in them and not respect. It is like fear of a dictator. I am sorry to say so. Everyone is divided. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There is no harmony.</font> Before your ban there was more harmony and unity.</p>
<p>By enacting the ban, you split the monasteries, split so many families, split regions in Tibet apart, split your disciples from you, split your own gurus from you, split Tibetan Buddhism apart. You have created so much disharmony.</p>
<p>It is not democratic what you have done to ban a religion within your community. You always talk of tolerance and acceptance and democracy and yet you do not accept and tolerate something different from your beliefs. When people practice Dorje Shugden you ostracize them, ban them from seeing you, ban them from using Tibetan facilities. You know you have done that. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">There are videos that capture your speech and prove this point.</font> You even had people expelled from monasteries just because they practice Dorje Shugden. Some of the monks you expelled have been in the monastery for over 40 years. Many older monks shed tears because of this.</p>
<p>Many young educated Tibetans lost confidence in you as they saw the damage the Dorje Shugden ban created and they lose hope. Many have become free thinkers. They reject what you have done. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many people in the west left Buddhism because of the confusion you created with this ban against Dorje Shugden which is immoral.</font></p>
<p>You could of had millions of people who practice Dorje Shugden to support, love and follow you, but you scared them away. They are hurt and very disappointed. They loved you and respected you deeply before the ban. It has been 60 years and you have failed to get Tibet back. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">Your biggest failure is not getting Tibet back after 57 years in exile.</font> Now you are begging China to allow you to return to Tibet to the disappointment of thousands of people who fought for a free Tibet believing in you. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">So many self-immolated for a free Tibet and now you want Tibet to be a part of China with no referendum from Tibetans.</font> Just like a dictator, you decide on your own.  It was your government and you that lost Tibet in the first place. Your policies and style of doing things do not benefit Tibet and Buddhism. You have been the sole ruler of Tibet your whole life and you still have not gotten our country of Tibet back for us. Our families and us are separated. Yet you create more pain by creating a ban to further divide people. Please have compassion.</p>
<p>No other Buddhist leader has banned or condemned any religion except for you. It looks very bad. You are a Nobel laureate and this is not fitting of a laureate. You should unite people and not separate them by religious differences.</p>
<p><font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">You said Ms. Aung San Suu Kyi did not do right to the Rohingya people in Myanmar due to religious differences, but you are doing the same thing to the Shugden Buddhists within your own society.</font> There is a parallel in this. You separate the Shugden Buddhists from the others in Tibetan society.</p>
<p>You have lost so many people who would have loved and supported you. You have lost so much support around the world. The Shugden Buddhists who love you number in the millions. When you are fast losing support from governments and private people, it will not do you well to lose more.</p>
<p>After you are passed away in the future, the rift you created between the Dorje Shugden and non-Dorje Shugden people will remain for a while and that will be your legacy. Disharmony. You will be remembered for this. Not as a hero but a disharmony creator.</p>
<p>Dorje Shugden will spread and further grow, but you will be no more as you are a human. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">No one wishes you bad and in fact we hope you have a long and healthy life, but we have lost so much hope and have so much despair because of you.</font> All the hundreds of Dorje Shugden lamas, tulkus and geshes are maturing and there are hundreds of Dorje Shugden monasteries in Tibet who will not give up Dorje Shugden. You have made a mistake. These hundreds of teachers and teachers to be will spread Dorje Shugden further in the future.</p>
<p>The gurus that gave us Dorje Shugden as a spiritual practice and you have called these holy gurus wrong and they are mistaken in giving us Dorje Shugden. <font color=#cc4125 class="bbcode-color">How can you insult our gurus whom we respect so much? If they can be wrong, then you can be wrong.</font> Then all gurus can be wrong. So no one needs to listen to any guru? You have created this trend. It is not healthy. Your own gurus practiced Dorje Shugden their whole lives. Your own gurus were exemplary and highly learned.</p>
<p>Dalai Lama you have created so much pain with this ban against so many people due to religion. You are ageing fast. Are you going to do anything about it or stay stubborn, hard and un-moving. You show a smile and preach peace and harmony wherever you go. But will you do the same to your own people? Please rectify the wrong you have done. Please before it is too late. You can create harmony again or you can pass away in the future with this legacy of peace. May you live long and think carefully and admit what was a mistake in having this unethical ban against Dorje Shugden religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Suhaila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suhaila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I understand is Lamas can control their body, however if there are lack of merits from the side of the students like students breaking the samaya with the guru it will cause the guru to &quot;leave&quot; their body, manifesting sickness and death. If these continue the reincarnation also cannot manifest his dharma activities. I wish Lama Zopa is able to overturn the current situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I understand is Lamas can control their body, however if there are lack of merits from the side of the students like students breaking the samaya with the guru it will cause the guru to &#8220;leave&#8221; their body, manifesting sickness and death. If these continue the reincarnation also cannot manifest his dharma activities. I wish Lama Zopa is able to overturn the current situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes along with every other gelugpa monk in exile in india who was taught by the shugden lamas from tibet,  no choice no freedom that has come now since 1996 now we can make our own minds up.the future is up to us . No one in fpmt does this now stop using the past to justify the present things change thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes along with every other gelugpa monk in exile in india who was taught by the shugden lamas from tibet,  no choice no freedom that has come now since 1996 now we can make our own minds up.the future is up to us . No one in fpmt does this now stop using the past to justify the present things change thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia Neumerkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofia Neumerkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So not only HH Trijang Rinpoche was wrong, all other gurus of Lama Zopa were wrong too because they were also DS practitioners. Does it mean Lama Zopa&#039;s Dharma knowledge is tainted too? So what he is teaching is contaminated? So we should not rely on him? So who in Gelug lineage can we rely on given that all high masters in one way or another has received teachings from a DS lama before.

What I do no understand is that why Lama Osel refuse to go back to FPMT  founded by his previous life to continue to spread Dharma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So not only HH Trijang Rinpoche was wrong, all other gurus of Lama Zopa were wrong too because they were also DS practitioners. Does it mean Lama Zopa&#8217;s Dharma knowledge is tainted too? So what he is teaching is contaminated? So we should not rely on him? So who in Gelug lineage can we rely on given that all high masters in one way or another has received teachings from a DS lama before.</p>
<p>What I do no understand is that why Lama Osel refuse to go back to FPMT  founded by his previous life to continue to spread Dharma.</p>
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