Comments on: FPMT – for breaking away from their Guru and Lineage, this is the Result… https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/ The Protector whose time has come Thu, 30 Apr 2026 21:50:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: momo https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-28968 momo Tue, 06 Nov 2012 00:08:47 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-28968 The real point is that we DO NOT KNOW isn't it? Maybe we were angry because they slander our teacher it did or did not affect him, karma... Or maybe the real teaching is cutting ego and we got so many blessing from our opponents...I feel more buddhist to be persecuted than worldly power. But I do not know anything rely upon teachers rely upon my own innner guidance. What is the fuss anyway it is a secret practice. To demonize anyone does not work, the chinese tried to demonize His Holiness he became bigger, the buddhists tried to demonize some tulkus nothing happened either. Usual blabla. If they are so afraid of going against mainstream we should also be able to understand them. They ( the teachers) created CONFUSION that is good. The real point is that we DO NOT KNOW isn’t it?

Maybe we were angry because they slander our teacher it did or did not affect him, karma…

Or maybe the real teaching is cutting ego and we got so many blessing from our opponents…I feel more buddhist to be persecuted than worldly power. But I do not know anything rely upon teachers rely upon my own innner guidance. What is the fuss anyway it is a secret practice. To demonize anyone does not work, the chinese tried to demonize His Holiness he became bigger, the buddhists tried to demonize some tulkus nothing happened either. Usual blabla.

If they are so afraid of going against mainstream we should also be able to understand them. They ( the teachers) created CONFUSION that is good.

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By: EBenz https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-15249 EBenz Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:45:42 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-15249 This is a good lesson to be learnt and a heavy price to be paid when the reincarnation of such a great lama cannot manifest as a great dharma teacher again in this life due to the result of his students' broken samaya who created the cause and accumulated heavy karma for abandoning the main practice of his lama's heart protector, Dorje Shudgen. What would be the cost? This is a good lesson to be learnt and a heavy price to be paid when the reincarnation of such a great lama cannot manifest as a great dharma teacher again in this life due to the result of his students’ broken samaya who created the cause and accumulated heavy karma for abandoning the main practice of his lama’s heart protector, Dorje Shudgen. What would be the cost?

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By: Kurava https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-14873 Kurava Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:36:36 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-14873 For breaking their vows with their Guru by disparaging his Protector practice, students at FPMT have lost their connection with Lama Yeshe's reincarnate , Osel. How sad! For breaking their vows with their Guru by disparaging his Protector practice, students at FPMT have lost their connection with Lama Yeshe’s reincarnate , Osel. How sad!

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By: momo https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-14868 momo Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:29:10 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-14868 Girls and guys shanti peace. I feel he is genuine what u want he should dress as a monk? I feel Lama Zopa is very loving this is the harder part, he will still be Lama Yeshes reincarnation. I feel strong and beautiful person thank you. Do not fight now DS reincarnated be one family as we used to be. Personally I follow HH Dalai lamas advise to do it from 'our own cultures'I do not want to dress up robes. Fanaticism no good. In Tibtn government Nyigmapa strong so big deal look bigger picture than nitpicking. Ecology is the main thing. Climate Change. So we tricked the chinese into following buddhism dharma. What has Lama Zopa done to you he is nepalese his country is destroyed he is a yogi in America. His teachings about animals very strong and even the entire monastery wants out of Nepal and so on this is not a reason for us westerners who do not understand the topig of OBEDIENCE or 2 well. All paths are valid. I am surprised to see animosity it is not attractive. You are NOT helping your gurus by being nasty each other. If they do it that is their ignorance. Girls and guys shanti peace. I feel he is genuine what u want he should dress as a monk? I feel Lama Zopa is very loving this is the harder part, he will still be Lama Yeshes reincarnation.

I feel strong and beautiful person thank you. Do not fight now DS reincarnated be one family as we used to be.
Personally I follow HH Dalai lamas advise to do it from ‘our own cultures’I do not want to dress up robes. Fanaticism no good. In Tibtn government Nyigmapa strong so big deal look bigger picture than nitpicking. Ecology is the main thing. Climate Change. So we tricked the chinese into following buddhism dharma. What has Lama Zopa done to you he is nepalese his country is destroyed he is a yogi in America. His teachings about animals very strong and even the entire monastery wants out of Nepal and so on this is not a reason for us westerners who do not understand the topig of OBEDIENCE or 2 well. All paths are valid. I am surprised to see animosity it is not attractive. You are NOT helping your gurus by being nasty each other. If they do it that is their ignorance.

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By: Conan Chong https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-13914 Conan Chong Sat, 03 Jul 2010 04:05:18 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-13914 Only true achieved masters can reveal the "returned ones" correctly because they have marks both spiritually and physically. Those without achievements can only see the outside and easily make mistakes. Sometimes, I wonder such living methods traditions is still suitable. There are others who can achieved no less without it. Cannot find himself? I find mine in my lineage, my root guru and his siddhi, even from distance. I doubt the ability of the current Dalai Lama, I even doubt whether he is the returned previous Dalai Lama. Only true achieved masters can reveal the “returned ones” correctly because they have marks both spiritually and physically. Those without achievements can only see the outside and easily make mistakes.

Sometimes, I wonder such living methods traditions is still suitable. There are others who can achieved no less without it.

Cannot find himself? I find mine in my lineage, my root guru and his siddhi, even from distance.

I doubt the ability of the current Dalai Lama, I even doubt whether he is the returned previous Dalai Lama.

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By: Anonymous https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-253 Anonymous Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:21:54 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-253 How about present Trichang Rinpoche - who run away and now teaching, Dharma is the best way to earn money and get respected from others How about present Trichang Rinpoche – who run away and now teaching, Dharma is the best way to earn money and get respected from others

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By: Mr. Xia https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Mr. Xia Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:00:27 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-50 just another conditionated human just another conditionated human

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By: Tom https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Tom Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:26:59 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-9 Great insightful article that shows how we should not follow blindly the prognostications of any lama (INCLUDING The Dalai Lama who himself says about his own appointment as Chenrezig Dalai Lama continuum "maybe they made some mistake!" Ultimately , we have only our inner guide to verify if our outer guide is genuine. Learn to follow your heart and find your dharma - your way . I dont see that the Osel result is a bad one, I actually think it is a good result. He has broken free of the expectations and demands of FPMT , and the tibetan buddhist heirarchy. Well done Osel. Great insightful article that shows how we should not follow blindly the prognostications of any lama (INCLUDING The Dalai Lama who himself says about his own appointment as Chenrezig Dalai Lama continuum “maybe they made some mistake!” Ultimately , we have only our inner guide to verify if our outer guide is genuine. Learn to follow your heart and find your dharma – your way .
I dont see that the Osel result is a bad one, I actually think it is a good result. He has broken free of the expectations and demands of FPMT , and the tibetan buddhist heirarchy. Well done Osel.

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By: lama rignga https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/fpmt-for-breaking-away-from-their-guru-and-lineage-this-is-the-result/comment-page-1/#comment-2 lama rignga Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:42:33 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=252#comment-2 so nice artical and good work so nice artical and good work

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