Comments on: Dorje Shugden Enthroned by Chinese Emperor & the Dalai Lama https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/ The Protector whose time has come Mon, 06 Jul 2026 07:22:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Rinchen https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-50814 Rinchen Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:51:57 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-50814 Through this article it very clearly shows the ties between China and Dorje Shugden from a few hundred of years ago. The Chinese had already been practicing Dorje Shugden. What made them pick up this practice again is because the Chinese wanted to go against what the Dalai Lama said. Hence, allowing the Chinese to connect with Dorje Shugden once again! Through this article it very clearly shows the ties between China and Dorje Shugden from a few hundred of years ago. The Chinese had already been practicing Dorje Shugden. What made them pick up this practice again is because the Chinese wanted to go against what the Dalai Lama said. Hence, allowing the Chinese to connect with Dorje Shugden once again!

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By: Rihanna https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-25446 Rihanna Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:44:11 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-25446 There is not a single bit of doubt that Dorje Shugden is the protector for the people of China, it is being proven yet again by the fact that Emperors took him as imperial protector! Sad that in this degenerate age, Dorje shugden's scared and precious practise had been used as one of the tools for political struggle..and innocent practitioners victimized. Let's pray hard and hope for the ban to be lifted real soon and everyone can enjoy freedom of religion. There is not a single bit of doubt that Dorje Shugden is the protector for the people of China, it is being proven yet again by the fact that Emperors took him as imperial protector! Sad that in this degenerate age, Dorje shugden’s scared and precious practise had been used as one of the tools for political struggle..and innocent practitioners victimized.

Let’s pray hard and hope for the ban to be lifted real soon and everyone can enjoy freedom of religion.

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By: diamond223 https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-25146 diamond223 Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:02:38 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-25146 Great news that Dorja Shugden has been enthroned by Chinese Emperor Dhakong and Eleventh Dalai Lama since few hundred years ago. From the above articles has approved that Dorje Shugden is a highly attained being, not a spirit nor a negative force.Dorje Shugden manifested as a Dharma Protector who has clairvoyance to do divination accurately. The CTA, please lift the ban soon!!! So that Dorje Shugden's practitioners may practice openly,and without people putting them down!!! Great news that Dorja Shugden has been enthroned by Chinese Emperor Dhakong and Eleventh Dalai Lama since few hundred years ago.

From the above articles has approved that Dorje Shugden is a highly attained being, not a spirit nor a negative force.Dorje Shugden manifested as a Dharma Protector who has clairvoyance to do divination accurately.

The CTA, please lift the ban soon!!! So that Dorje Shugden’s practitioners may practice openly,and without people putting them down!!!

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By: shugdenprotect https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24933 shugdenprotect Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:44:04 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24933 Thank you for the research to find this information and thank you for sharing it generously with us...as always! This reveals the importance to create the cause for us to always be blessed by the 3 jewels. Although the seeds for Dorje Shugden to bless China was planted centuries ago, due to the reliable law of karma, Lord Dorje Shugden continues to protect the nation of China. In fact, there are more and more recent conversation about how Dorje Shugden will flourish in this world powerhouse with the support of the authorities. I pray that the Chinese have the wisdom of their ancestors to embrace this blessing and practice Dorje Shugden "hungrily" so that the Protector will always remain as well as spread to many other parts of the world through the growing influence of the country. Thank you for the research to find this information and thank you for sharing it generously with us…as always!

This reveals the importance to create the cause for us to always be blessed by the 3 jewels. Although the seeds for Dorje Shugden to bless China was planted centuries ago, due to the reliable law of karma, Lord Dorje Shugden continues to protect the nation of China. In fact, there are more and more recent conversation about how Dorje Shugden will flourish in this world powerhouse with the support of the authorities. I pray that the Chinese have the wisdom of their ancestors to embrace this blessing and practice Dorje Shugden “hungrily” so that the Protector will always remain as well as spread to many other parts of the world through the growing influence of the country.

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By: negra orquida https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24932 negra orquida Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:28:45 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24932 This extract clearly answers the question posed by the Dalai Lama in his speech to the 2nd Gelug conference in Dharamsala on 6 December 2000: “In a similar vein, it would be worthwhile looking into just who was responsible for first coining the epithet -Protector of the teachings for the Conqueror Manjushri (Je Rinpoche)- for Dholgyal. What were the circumstances of its being given? Was this the culmination of an authoritative spiritual figure following the correct procedure of ordering (the protector into service) and assigning (to it certain duties)? …(snip)… So who was it that gave this name? It was not any of the Ganden Throne-Holders who was responsible for this. It was not Je Rinpoche or one of his main disciples. It was not the chief Lama of Tashi Kyil in Amdo or one of his main disciples. The practise was completely unheard of there. Now I do not suggest that Kumbum is generally to be taken as any sort of example, but still, the likes of Tongpon Rinpoche were not responsible for this. My brother Taktser Rinpoche, for instance was the abbot there for a number of years and said that he had never even heard of it whilst he was there. It is true that the former Kirti Rinpoche dabbled in the worship. However, that was just a case of following a tradition that others around him were engaged in. There was no sort of whole-hearted commitment. On inspection then, the origins of the whole thing are found to be very murky and there seems to be no reliable source for it.” (full speech: http://www.dalailama.com/messages/dolgyal-shugden/speeches-by-his-holiness/gelug-conference) How could HHDL not know who enthroned DS and claim that there is "no reliable source" on the "origins of the whole thing"? It is right there in his guru Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s autobiagraphy! And he openly acknowledged that " it was Phabongkha, Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche who were promoting Dolgyal". It seems as though HHDL had purposely posed this question in such a way to bait/create intrigue in people to find out who really enthroned DS as the Protector of the teachings for the Conqueror Manjushri (Je Rinpoche). This extract clearly answers the question posed by the Dalai Lama in his speech to the 2nd Gelug conference in Dharamsala on 6 December 2000:

“In a similar vein, it would be worthwhile looking into just who was responsible for first coining the epithet -Protector of the teachings for the Conqueror Manjushri (Je Rinpoche)- for Dholgyal. What were the circumstances of its being given? Was this the culmination of an authoritative spiritual figure following the correct procedure of ordering (the protector into service) and assigning (to it certain duties)?

…(snip)… So who was it that gave this name? It was not any of the Ganden Throne-Holders who was responsible for this. It was not Je Rinpoche or one of his main disciples. It was not the chief Lama of Tashi Kyil in Amdo or one of his main disciples. The practise was completely unheard of there. Now I do not suggest that Kumbum is generally to be taken as any sort of example, but still, the likes of Tongpon Rinpoche were not responsible for this. My brother Taktser Rinpoche, for instance was the abbot there for a number of years and said that he had never even heard of it whilst he was there. It is true that the former Kirti Rinpoche dabbled in the worship. However, that was just a case of following a tradition that others around him were engaged in. There was no sort of whole-hearted commitment. On inspection then, the origins of the whole thing are found to be very murky and there seems to be no reliable source for it.”

(full speech: http://www.dalailama.com/messages/dolgyal-shugden/speeches-by-his-holiness/gelug-conference)

How could HHDL not know who enthroned DS and claim that there is “no reliable source” on the “origins of the whole thing”? It is right there in his guru Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s autobiagraphy! And he openly acknowledged that ” it was Phabongkha, Trijang Rinpoche and Zong Rinpoche who were promoting Dolgyal”.

It seems as though HHDL had purposely posed this question in such a way to bait/create intrigue in people to find out who really enthroned DS as the Protector of the teachings for the Conqueror Manjushri (Je Rinpoche).

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By: Galen https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24927 Galen Mon, 20 Feb 2012 05:44:31 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24927 This is indeed an insightful information. Dorje Shugden enthroned by the Chinese Emperor as the protector of the Yellow Hat lineage means that the Chinese has been practicing Dorje Shugden for centuries especially by the emperor. Usually when the emperor endorses something, the people will follow as well. This entails that Dorje Shugden is practiced in China and is a part of China's glorious history. There is evidence now, therefore no one can deny it. So, there is one less reason for confused people to believe that Dorje Shugden is a spirit and not an enlightened Buddha. This is indeed an insightful information. Dorje Shugden enthroned by the Chinese Emperor as the protector of the Yellow Hat lineage means that the Chinese has been practicing Dorje Shugden for centuries especially by the emperor. Usually when the emperor endorses something, the people will follow as well. This entails that Dorje Shugden is practiced in China and is a part of China’s glorious history. There is evidence now, therefore no one can deny it.

So, there is one less reason for confused people to believe that Dorje Shugden is a spirit and not an enlightened Buddha.

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By: Icy https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24925 Icy Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:08:47 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24925 As can be seen clearly from history there is such close connection between Imperial China and Dorje Shugden. I am certain this special bond and affinity between Dorje Shugden and the Chinese will continue to blossom and flourish in the 21st century. The foundation has been laid from the beginning, the causes have been sowed, the cultivation shall ensue to benefit the larger population of China, the bigger picture. It is indisputable that the Great Dharma King Dorje Shugden is the sovereign protector of China. As can be seen clearly from history there is such close connection between Imperial China and Dorje Shugden. I am certain this special bond and affinity between Dorje Shugden and the Chinese will continue to blossom and flourish in the 21st century. The foundation has been laid from the beginning, the causes have been sowed, the cultivation shall ensue to benefit the larger population of China, the bigger picture. It is indisputable that the Great Dharma King Dorje Shugden is the sovereign protector of China.

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By: rossoneri https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24920 rossoneri Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:14:38 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24920 Amazingly what is happening in China now had happened hundreds years ago. Dorje Shugden has established a relationship with China then and now i guess that bond is manifesting into greater heights!!! Perhaps the divination says "we have to use unconventional ways to promote Dharma to the future society and the world". Amazingly what is happening in China now had happened hundreds years ago. Dorje Shugden has established a relationship with China then and now i guess that bond is manifesting into greater heights!!!

Perhaps the divination says “we have to use unconventional ways to promote Dharma to the future society and the world”.

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By: brian https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24913 brian Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:43:31 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24913 Its very clear that the power of Dorje Shugden on what had happened in Lhasa Trode Kangsar Protector Palace where divination answers were given perfectly without even being read out and it was made a day after. Such power of clairvoyance only possessed by Buddhas! Its very clear that the power of Dorje Shugden on what had happened in Lhasa Trode Kangsar Protector Palace where divination answers were given perfectly without even being read out and it was made a day after. Such power of clairvoyance only possessed by Buddhas!

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By: dharmaspace https://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/dorje-shugden-enthroned-by-chinese-emperor-the-dalai-lama/comment-page-1/#comment-24912 dharmaspace Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:16:51 +0000 http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=12303#comment-24912 From this article it is very apparent that Dorje Shugden has ties to China hundreds of years ago and perhaps Dorje Shugden will strengthen that relationship to greater dimensions in the coming years. The Chinese government have started supported dorje shugden monasteries and monks not purely out of spite, but because the dorje shugden monks do benefit the people there. Very nice to see this extract. From this article it is very apparent that Dorje Shugden has ties to China hundreds of years ago and perhaps Dorje Shugden will strengthen that relationship to greater dimensions in the coming years. The Chinese government have started supported dorje shugden monasteries and monks not purely out of spite, but because the dorje shugden monks do benefit the people there. Very nice to see this extract.

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