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		<title>By: 大发888网页版登陆</title>
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		<description>I am New Here – A step by step starter kit (新人入门 ) &#124; Dorje Shugden and Dalai Lama – Spreading Dharma Together</description>
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		<title>By: Sherabz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherabz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2016 06:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is great to have dual language article about Dorje Shugden with the explanation on its iconography so that many people over the world especially Chinese can read and also can learn for the English at the same time. This information is really  beneficial to those are new to Dorje Shugden. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is great to have dual language article about Dorje Shugden with the explanation on its iconography so that many people over the world especially Chinese can read and also can learn for the English at the same time. This information is really  beneficial to those are new to Dorje Shugden. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: C2david</title>
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		<dc:creator>C2david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where can I find Dorje Shudgen in Singapore</description>
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		<title>By: vajraprotector</title>
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		<dc:creator>vajraprotector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is not the forum but just a few thoughts re what was said: 

1. “From the kangso sadhana it’s apparent this is what delights the Protector most. When people have discovered the liberating wisdom of the Four Noble Truths, the Bodhisattva’s path, emptiness, moral discipline and especially Lamrim, Lojong and Mahamudra, then there is something in their minds for glorious Dorje Shugden to protect. “

REPLY: From what you say, it means that Dorje Shugden will ONLY protect people who have discovered the liberating wisdom (and a whole loads of what you have mentioned above), that means Buddhists or monks who have not truly embrace the law of cause &amp; effect (relating to the four noble truth) or qualified to study the Bodhisattva’s path, emptiness, and lamrim/lojong/mahamudra, then they will not be under the protection of Dorje Shugden?

Dorje shugden protects everyone if he is propiated with good motivation eg to save oneself from danger. Of course it will be better if the people HAS A CHANCE TO STUDY THE DHARMA (that’s when they know what’s the four noble truth and etc what have been mentioned above) but how would you connect people who are non-Buddhist with Buddhist study in the first place? Also, if a Dharma student has the chance to encounter the Dharma and has learnt the above and STILL doesn’t care, then of course, it is very difficult for Dorje Shugden to protect. 


2. “Promoting the Dharma Protector without the Dharma is like promoting the blue of the sky without the sky itself – totally out of context and hard to relate to.”
REPLY: It is not hard to relate to. If you are in desperate danger and all you know is a Buddha mantra or even a Buddha&#039;s name(in this case perhaps only Dorje Shugden because you were not interested in anything spiritual!), and you chant it, Dorje Shugden helps you. What’s so difficult to relate? Do you think compassionate beings and Dharma protectors ONLY protect Buddhists? Or Buddhist scholars?

3. “Teachings on renunciation, bodhichitta and emptiness can be hard for some people to relate to at first, but in that case at least taking an initial interest in inner peace is surely the best starting point. If they can’t do that, they won’t be ready for protector practice and will be disappointed and put off when they find out what it’s really about (the heart commitment of practising, teaching and promoting Kadam Dharma without mixing it).”

REPLY: Two things came up in my mind: 

a. Protectors are assisting/ serving Lamas – if a person has strong faith in a lama, a lama can request protector to bless/ take care of that person, that person DOESN”T have to do protector practice

b. We’re talking about this brochure to get people to ask WHO IS DORJE SHUGDEN to find out more, or to visit a local centre that practices Dorje Shugden without the politics behind it.  Not about initiating people into serious practices YET. One step at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is not the forum but just a few thoughts re what was said: </p>
<p>1. “From the kangso sadhana it’s apparent this is what delights the Protector most. When people have discovered the liberating wisdom of the Four Noble Truths, the Bodhisattva’s path, emptiness, moral discipline and especially Lamrim, Lojong and Mahamudra, then there is something in their minds for glorious Dorje Shugden to protect. “</p>
<p>REPLY: From what you say, it means that Dorje Shugden will ONLY protect people who have discovered the liberating wisdom (and a whole loads of what you have mentioned above), that means Buddhists or monks who have not truly embrace the law of cause &amp; effect (relating to the four noble truth) or qualified to study the Bodhisattva’s path, emptiness, and lamrim/lojong/mahamudra, then they will not be under the protection of Dorje Shugden?</p>
<p>Dorje shugden protects everyone if he is propiated with good motivation eg to save oneself from danger. Of course it will be better if the people HAS A CHANCE TO STUDY THE DHARMA (that’s when they know what’s the four noble truth and etc what have been mentioned above) but how would you connect people who are non-Buddhist with Buddhist study in the first place? Also, if a Dharma student has the chance to encounter the Dharma and has learnt the above and STILL doesn’t care, then of course, it is very difficult for Dorje Shugden to protect. </p>
<p>2. “Promoting the Dharma Protector without the Dharma is like promoting the blue of the sky without the sky itself – totally out of context and hard to relate to.”<br />
REPLY: It is not hard to relate to. If you are in desperate danger and all you know is a Buddha mantra or even a Buddha&#8217;s name(in this case perhaps only Dorje Shugden because you were not interested in anything spiritual!), and you chant it, Dorje Shugden helps you. What’s so difficult to relate? Do you think compassionate beings and Dharma protectors ONLY protect Buddhists? Or Buddhist scholars?</p>
<p>3. “Teachings on renunciation, bodhichitta and emptiness can be hard for some people to relate to at first, but in that case at least taking an initial interest in inner peace is surely the best starting point. If they can’t do that, they won’t be ready for protector practice and will be disappointed and put off when they find out what it’s really about (the heart commitment of practising, teaching and promoting Kadam Dharma without mixing it).”</p>
<p>REPLY: Two things came up in my mind: </p>
<p>a. Protectors are assisting/ serving Lamas – if a person has strong faith in a lama, a lama can request protector to bless/ take care of that person, that person DOESN”T have to do protector practice</p>
<p>b. We’re talking about this brochure to get people to ask WHO IS DORJE SHUGDEN to find out more, or to visit a local centre that practices Dorje Shugden without the politics behind it.  Not about initiating people into serious practices YET. One step at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: 小雄登</title>
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		<dc:creator>小雄登</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>谢谢网主提供入了那么多关于雄登的背景传承,象征性以及供奉它的利益。 因你用心劳苦制作这个网页我受益了很多。谢谢你！愿此法门能利益更多更多的众生就从这个杰雄登卡开始....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>谢谢网主提供入了那么多关于雄登的背景传承,象征性以及供奉它的利益。 因你用心劳苦制作这个网页我受益了很多。谢谢你！愿此法门能利益更多更多的众生就从这个杰雄登卡开始&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sister</title>
		<link>http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/for-beginners/i-am-new-here-a-step-by-step-starter-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-10373</link>
		<dc:creator>sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chinese Website give me a lot of information......well done.i love it:-)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese Website give me a lot of information&#8230;&#8230;well done.i love it:-)))</p>
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		<title>By: sister</title>
		<link>http://www.dorjeshugden.com/introduction/for-beginners/i-am-new-here-a-step-by-step-starter-kit/comment-page-1/#comment-10020</link>
		<dc:creator>sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Dorje Shudgen.....i already start recite the beautiful Mantra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Dorje Shudgen&#8230;..i already start recite the beautiful Mantra.</p>
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		<title>By: sister</title>
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		<dc:creator>sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I received this brochure in my mailbox too.... the website is full of information,now i know who is Dorje Shudgen...i keep this card in my bag n feel like protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received this brochure in my mailbox too&#8230;. the website is full of information,now i know who is Dorje Shudgen&#8230;i keep this card in my bag n feel like protected.</p>
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		<title>By: tk</title>
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		<dc:creator>tk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May the Lineage of Tsongkapa as propounded by Je Pabongka spread, 
During these Dark Times, when methods unheard of are implemented,
Using desire, greed, anger as a means to hook in those deluded, 
In the end, the very sought after objects are purified by the Kingly Tantras,
For that to be accomplished, I invoke upon the World Peace Guardian Dorje Shugden,
May your mantra, blessings, visage, form, meaning pervade samsara, hence,
Leading delusionary beings such as myself to supreme golden Teachings of Sumati Kirti,
Bless me to use unconventional methods, yet not breaking the tenants of my vows,
To accomplish what seems like the impossible.
I spread Shugden&#039;s lineage through various means in order to bring many to the unmistaken Lineage,
As Propounded by Lama Dorje Chang Je Losang Yeshe and Vidyadhara Je Losang Tsondrue,
Hence I serve you, My Lord Dorje Shugden so Many will be blessed by the supreme teachings
of the King of Dharma in the Three Realms, Jamgon Lama the Unrivalled.

Composed by myself, as I rejoice Dorje Shugden is reaching many more. May this life and all my future lives work for Dorje Shugden who is no other than Manjushri the Gentle Dragon.

I am so happy many are and will be introduced to Dorje Shugden due to my meagre efforts. Once I bring them to Dorje Shugden, He will bring them to Tsongkapa in his many skilful enlightened methods. What greater reason to live and give up my laziness than for that.

TK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May the Lineage of Tsongkapa as propounded by Je Pabongka spread,<br />
During these Dark Times, when methods unheard of are implemented,<br />
Using desire, greed, anger as a means to hook in those deluded,<br />
In the end, the very sought after objects are purified by the Kingly Tantras,<br />
For that to be accomplished, I invoke upon the World Peace Guardian Dorje Shugden,<br />
May your mantra, blessings, visage, form, meaning pervade samsara, hence,<br />
Leading delusionary beings such as myself to supreme golden Teachings of Sumati Kirti,<br />
Bless me to use unconventional methods, yet not breaking the tenants of my vows,<br />
To accomplish what seems like the impossible.<br />
I spread Shugden&#8217;s lineage through various means in order to bring many to the unmistaken Lineage,<br />
As Propounded by Lama Dorje Chang Je Losang Yeshe and Vidyadhara Je Losang Tsondrue,<br />
Hence I serve you, My Lord Dorje Shugden so Many will be blessed by the supreme teachings<br />
of the King of Dharma in the Three Realms, Jamgon Lama the Unrivalled.</p>
<p>Composed by myself, as I rejoice Dorje Shugden is reaching many more. May this life and all my future lives work for Dorje Shugden who is no other than Manjushri the Gentle Dragon.</p>
<p>I am so happy many are and will be introduced to Dorje Shugden due to my meagre efforts. Once I bring them to Dorje Shugden, He will bring them to Tsongkapa in his many skilful enlightened methods. What greater reason to live and give up my laziness than for that.</p>
<p>TK</p>
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		<title>By: BigBug</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for step by step prayer guide for prayer, I cant wait to start !! I got the lovely red brochure and dorje shugden&#039;s picture from a kind friend. Now I will set up the simple alter in my room.

Just one question, for daily prayer, do we just recite whatever that is posted? what about taking refuge and all? Dedication?

Thanks in advance, looking forward to guidence from any kind soul :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for step by step prayer guide for prayer, I cant wait to start !! I got the lovely red brochure and dorje shugden&#8217;s picture from a kind friend. Now I will set up the simple alter in my room.</p>
<p>Just one question, for daily prayer, do we just recite whatever that is posted? what about taking refuge and all? Dedication?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance, looking forward to guidence from any kind soul <img src='http://www.dorjeshugden.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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