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DharmaDefender

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Look at this ridiculous situation. The Dalai Lama has done a great job telling the world that Tibetans are peaceful but Shugden practitioners know the truth is very different. Tibetans are violent, plain and simple and this isnt intended as a bigoted statement. The fact is that if your a Shugden practitioner, its a matter of "stab first and ask questions later" and whether you like it or not, this video shows just how capable Tibetans will be of that.

These youth were filmed in Belgium and EVEN THOUGH THE CAMERAMAN WARNED THEM TO SAY HES FILMING THEM, they continued their attack and onslaught. Regardless of whatever misunderstanding transpired, its clear that when a mans down, Tibetans will keep kicking and beating them until they have nothing left to give. If you really had to hit someone wouldnt a few punches get your point across? But no. When someones defenceless, when someones got nowt strength left in them to protect themselves, they just keep on going.

This ladies and gents is the real face of Tibetans. Youve got MPs like Lhagyari fighting in the street like a common hooligan so no wonder their people do the same. Monkey see, monkey do.


Yeah Europe? Maybe you want to rethink the whole "support Tibetan refugees" situation. This is what your moneys going towards.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2019, 04:05:31 AM »
It is unbelievable that a Tibetan MP will act in such a way that disrespects His Holiness the Dalai Lama. That lady is actually a student of His Holiness and if I am not mistaken, she just attended one of His Holiness's teaching before this happens.

Is this how a Tibetan MP treat a foreigner and a student of His Holiness? This shows that she is not educated well not well mannered. How is it possible for someone like her to be a leader of the public? She is definitely not a good example of a leader.

It is well known that Tibetan leaders are very petty and they fight over the pettiest thing. When it comes to fights, they do not care where and when even in an important event such as His Holiness's Birthday celebration.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2019, 05:35:34 AM »
Tibetans are so barbaric, when they are not happy with someone, they just use violence to force people to believe what they believe in. Not only they do this to Dorje Shugden people, but they also do this to everyone! Tibetans proudly claim they are Buddhist but they don't behave like one.

What the MP is doing is very shameful, she represents the Tibetan community but she doesn't care about the image she is projecting to the public. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong, the way she manages the situation is a big disaster! What she has done is so unnecessary. There are many ways to get a message across, attacking people is not acceptable.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2019, 06:12:12 AM »
This is really horrific! Being a Tibetan MP which is not just representing the Tibetan but also the Dalai Lama, such action is really shameful. CTA needs funding and how could they treat a visitor as such? This totally gives a very bad impression to the world. Who will want to fund a barbaric MP that acts such violent to other people? For whatever reason, I believe there are rules and regulations that can be followed to resolve the issue professionally. This is also why I believe Nepal put a stop for celebrating Dalai Lama's birthday in their country. Tibetan is just too violent and this will not give any good impression to the world.

CTA has to really look into this.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 06:08:00 PM »
This Tibetan Youth is acting so horrendous giving him such hits against the head and so many against one person. There is really such cruelty against one single person against so many.

What do they learn? What does the CTA, the Central Tibetan Administration do to bring justice and the Tibetan Youth something they can give their life meaning instead of attacking others and destroying their own life.

What a shame!
Indeed, the Tibetan Government shows the bad example and this is the result.   

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 05:23:19 AM »
This Tibetan Youth is acting so horrendous giving him such hits against the head and so many against one person. There is really such cruelty against one single person against so many.

What do they learn? What does the CTA, the Central Tibetan Administration do to bring justice and the Tibetan Youth something they can give their life meaning instead of attacking others and destroying their own life.

What a shame!
Indeed, the Tibetan Government shows the bad example and this is the result.   

This is how Tibetans are even for those who are educated in democratic countries like India. It is a cultural thing. Tibetans use violence to deal with differences, there is no room for discussion or exchange of opinion. This is the same for Dorje Shugden issue. CTA uses violence to force Dorje Shugden followers to give up their practice. When Dorje Shugden followers request for a dialogue, CTA just refuses.

With a mentality that does not progress or improve with time, the Free Tibet movement will never succeed. We are living in a civilised world, when there is disagreement, we have to be open minded to listen to each other and find a common ground to solve the problem. It is not about winning but what is the best for everyone.

CTA does not think something is wrong when a MP attacks another person. Otherwise CTA would have penalised the MP and issue an apology statement to the victim. A government like CTA will never be successful, to support the Free Tibet movement is a waste of time and money.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2019, 04:51:49 AM »
Can you imagine a representative of a government acting like a barbaric in public? The leader doesn't show a good example and the right attitude, it will affect the entire group. For CTA this incident is common and you can see that CTA will not apologies as to them this normal. CTA never thought of such an incident will affect him from getting sponsorship. Who will donate to an MP acting like this and as long as CTA doesn't apologies mean they agree with such action.

Now more people can see how violent and rude the Tibetan government can be and no wonder after 60 years they still like this and never progress. This video just shows the true Tibetan government.




















































































































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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2019, 08:08:10 AM »
Can you imagine a representative of a government acting like a barbaric in public? The leader doesn't show a good example and the right attitude, it will affect the entire group. For CTA this incident is common and you can see that CTA will not apologies as to them this normal. CTA never thought of such an incident will affect him from getting sponsorship. Who will donate to an MP acting like this and as long as CTA doesn't apologies mean they agree with such action.

Now more people can see how violent and rude the Tibetan government can be and no wonder after 60 years they still like this and never progress. This video just shows the true Tibetan government.

CTA is known to be very petty and not well behaved. They do as they wish and they do not care about the consequences or the feelings of the public at all. They acted as if they respect His Holiness the Dalai Lama outwardly but in actuallity, they do not respect him at all.

The Chinese lady just attended Dalai Lama's teaching not long ago before the incident happened. So, if CTA can hit His Holiness's student, I think they are disrespecting His Holiness. In another incident, the CTA had a fight during the celebration of His Holiness's birthday that disrupted the event. That shows us the level of respect that the CTA has for His Holiness.

From this incident, we can conclude the Tibetan leadership do not behave themselves well even if it is in front of the media. They do not care about how the Tibetans will look at them and they did not set a good example for their people. No wonder most of the Tibetans are as petty as them.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2019, 10:06:25 AM »
Wow! I do agree that Tibetans can be very barbaric. I guess secluded in their enclave, they have been taking actions into their own hands without punishments from the laws. Even the MP who represents the "Tibetan Government" don't control her anger and crudeness. And she is from a powerful family as well. Shame really. No wonder not many other than the Dalai Lama is able to maintain the lasting connections with ministries of other countries. How are they ever able to facilitate their people to be out of refugee camps. All they do is harp on the past which no other countries care anymore. With the advent of social media, their people like some Sakya monks in Nepal are already visiting Dorje Shugden related website to learn of the truth. And they are learning Dharma from these websites too. CTA has no control over this and soon people will not believe what CTA says. CTA will definitely lose their control and power over the people. Too bad. Lies just do not pay.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2019, 04:53:23 AM »
Wow! I do agree that Tibetans can be very barbaric. I guess secluded in their enclave, they have been taking actions into their own hands without punishments from the laws. Even the MP who represents the "Tibetan Government" don't control her anger and crudeness. And she is from a powerful family as well. Shame really. No wonder not many other than the Dalai Lama is able to maintain the lasting connections with ministries of other countries. How are they ever able to facilitate their people to be out of refugee camps. All they do is harp on the past which no other countries care anymore. With the advent of social media, their people like some Sakya monks in Nepal are already visiting Dorje Shugden related website to learn of the truth. And they are learning Dharma from these websites too. CTA has no control over this and soon people will not believe what CTA says. CTA will definitely lose their control and power over the people. Too bad. Lies just do not pay.

I agree we should learn from those Sakya monks who visited some Dorje Shugden website to learn more on the issue. With a clear understanding of the whole issue, they are able to decide for themselves whether to continue or to stop the practice.

Many people do not know a lot about Dorje Shugden practice and they are influenced by the media, the government and the people around them. Hence, they will react negatively when they come across this sacred practice. However, if they are educated on the practice, their attacks will stop and they will at least respect the practice.

Hence, information on Dorje Shugden is very important and everyone has to educate themselves on this hot topic all year round.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2019, 05:10:12 AM »
Wow! I do agree that Tibetans can be very barbaric. I guess secluded in their enclave, they have been taking actions into their own hands without punishments from the laws. Even the MP who represents the "Tibetan Government" don't control her anger and crudeness. And she is from a powerful family as well. Shame really. No wonder not many other than the Dalai Lama is able to maintain the lasting connections with ministries of other countries. How are they ever able to facilitate their people to be out of refugee camps. All they do is harp on the past which no other countries care anymore. With the advent of social media, their people like some Sakya monks in Nepal are already visiting Dorje Shugden related website to learn of the truth. And they are learning Dharma from these websites too. CTA has no control over this and soon people will not believe what CTA says. CTA will definitely lose their control and power over the people. Too bad. Lies just do not pay.

This is not the first case where Tibetans are being rude to people. Not only they are rude to non-Tibetans, but they are also rude to each other. During the Dalai Lama's birthday celebration last year, some Tibetans had some argument. Instead of talking to each other nicely to resolve the difference, they started to scream and shout at each other, they even started to fight.

I think this is a cultural thing, the Tibetans don't like to listen to people, they don't like to be challenged, they don't like people to have different views from theirs. When people have different views from theirs, they get angry and they will force their views on others. This is what is happening with the Dorje Shugden ban. People who don't want to obey CTA will be penalised, they are beaten up, threatened for what they believe in.

How to maintain a friendship with people having such a mentality?  No wonder so many countries want to disassociate themselves from the CTA. Very soon CTA will lose support from most of their 'friends' and they will not be able to survive anymore.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2019, 03:36:24 AM »
Bottom line is Tibetans does not care who you are and as long as you are against them or you threaten their power, they will attack you. They are not nice and they do not have good manners. They can fight with anyone, anywhere including important events such as the celebration of His Holiness's birthday. This shows how much respect they have for His Holiness whom they supposed to respect a lot.

Tibetans will never be able to change their way because it is how they are used to behave. They do whatever they want and they do not care about the consequences at all. This is how they operate for years. A famous example will be Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who was murdered by the CTA because he posed a threat to the 5th Dalai Lama's power at that time.

Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is not the only who got persecuted unfairly. There are many pure and kind monks who were removed from their seat or power for no valid reason.

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Re: No wonder the Dalai Lama said Europe should turn refugees away
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2019, 02:45:12 PM »
Bottom line is Tibetans does not care who you are and as long as you are against them or you threaten their power, they will attack you. They are not nice and they do not have good manners. They can fight with anyone, anywhere including important events such as the celebration of His Holiness's birthday. This shows how much respect they have for His Holiness whom they supposed to respect a lot.

Tibetans will never be able to change their way because it is how they are used to behave. They do whatever they want and they do not care about the consequences at all. This is how they operate for years. A famous example will be Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who was murdered by the CTA because he posed a threat to the 5th Dalai Lama's power at that time.

Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen is not the only who got persecuted unfairly. There are many pure and kind monks who were removed from their seat of power for no valid reason.

You are right. Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was not the first to be persecuted due to jealousy, false accusation, greed, etc. by the ministers of the Dalai Lama. Throughout the history of Tibet, there are many others who had been persecuted, some skinned alive like Nyatrul, limbs chopped off, disemboweled, poisoned, murdered, etc. Really no rules or regulations at all. Most of the Tibetans were serfs, whatever they have are not theirs and they struggled to eke their living to put food on their table.

In contrast, Tibet of today is prosperous under the auspice of China. They are rewarded by their hard work in better living conditions, ownership of properties, having their choice of working for others or be business owners themselves, etc. China is investing tremendously in Tibet, by preserving their culture, environment and religion.

Now, what have CTA done for the Tibetans since exile 60 years ago and with the billions of USD sponsorship funds from sympathetic supporters? NOTHING! On top of NOTHING, CTA has created harm and sufferings for Tibetans in the segregation of Dorje Shugden practitioners and Non-Dorje Shugden practitioners. CTA DO NOT practice Democracy! CTA DO NOT allow Religious Freedom! CTA DO NOT give Human Rights!