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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2019, 12:51:12 AM »
Can anyone host a guest for 60 years? This guest take things for granted and always creates problems, which host will be patient enough to deal with it? This is what is happening to India. India has been very kind to host the Tibetans for the past 60 years but Tibetans only take and never give anything back.

When the Tibetans first arrived in India in 1959, India was very kind to give them lands to rebuild their home. They are even allowed to have their own government. When India offer citizenship to the Tibetans, CTA is making thing so hard for the Tibetans to convert to Indian nationality.

Generally, Tibetans just use India as a stepping stone for them to go to western countries. They don't think India is good enough for them. But things will change soon as Asia is growing stronger. The Tibetans who have migrated to the west will regret one day for making the wrong choice.

You are so right! CTA and many of the Tibetans in exile are just using India as a stepping stone. They denigrate the Indians as India is the very last choice on their list of places they wish to emigrate to. Even going back to Tibet under China is a better option than to be Indian citizens. Wonder why? Is it that they are so prone to practicing discrimination that they act out their negativities without much thought? We hear of Tibetans who discriminate amongst themselves as to where in Tibet they came from, what school of religious practice, and then against Dorje Shugden practitioners, etc. It is just amazing and not something the outside world expects from a country where the majority of them are staunch Buddhist practitioners. So now we know that anyone can claim themselves Buddhists but not all can claim to be real practitioners.

CTA called themselves Buddhist but they are not real Buddhist. Real Buddhist will not cause so many troubles and suffering onto another human being. Over the 60 years, CTA created so many problems in India including the Dorje Shugden ban which literally splits the whole Tibetan Buddhist world into 2. Many Tibetans suffered discrimination and segregation in their own community and passed away hopelessly.

While the Tibetans in Exile are living in difficult conditions, the CTA is enjoying themselves with all the donation that they get from the western countries. The Tibetan leadership themselves have passports from another country which enable them to travel without restrictions. Since they are so passionate about Tibetan cause, why did they accept a passport from another country?

Obviously, they are preparing an escape route for themselves if the situation in India did not work out for them. They are not there for the Tibetans. They are there for themselves and try to get as much benefit as possible before they leave CTA.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2019, 06:19:42 AM »
Well, if Sangay is a real leader, he would have had a dialogue with the CCP and brought the Tibetans closer to their goal. This will only happen in this ideal world. I believe the Indians are not stupid and they would not see Sangay's trick as childish but they thought it was beneficial. However, they have paid a high price for hosting the Tibetans over 60 years. What a waste of the Indian citizen's tax money!

It is clear that PM Modi has had enough of the cheap and childish games the CTA and Lobsang Sangay play. Sangay has been a dismal leader of the Tibetans in exile, creating an environment so toxic today that most Tibetans would rather be Indian citizens or migrate to Western countries.

Everything that comes out from his and the CTA's mouth is so biased, illogical and outright childish that no one respects or pays any attention to them except for those with an agenda against China.

Grow up and please pull that thumb of yours out from your mouth.
It is disgusting and demeaning to the office of the Dalai Lama and to your hosts the great Indian nation.

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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2019, 05:06:44 AM »
Well, if Sangay is a real leader, he would have had a dialogue with the CCP and brought the Tibetans closer to their goal. This will only happen in this ideal world. I believe the Indians are not stupid and they would not see Sangay's trick as childish but they thought it was beneficial. However, they have paid a high price for hosting the Tibetans over 60 years. What a waste of the Indian citizen's tax money!

It is clear that PM Modi has had enough of the cheap and childish games the CTA and Lobsang Sangay play. Sangay has been a dismal leader of the Tibetans in exile, creating an environment so toxic today that most Tibetans would rather be Indian citizens or migrate to Western countries.

Everything that comes out from his and the CTA's mouth is so biased, illogical and outright childish that no one respects or pays any attention to them except for those with an agenda against China.

Grow up and please pull that thumb of yours out from your mouth.
It is disgusting and demeaning to the office of the Dalai Lama and to your hosts the great Indian nation.

You are asking too much of Lobsang Sangay! He will never be great. Why? Because he is entrenched in the skewed rhetoric of China being bad that he can't see clearly the future that he and the Tibetans in exile could have in China. How could he see clearly when every moment he is only thinking of how much he can get from the suckers that he tells his sob stories to. Not a lot left that will lend him their ears or open their wallets anymore. Too bad! All those years which could have been used to forge the strong relationships had been wasted.

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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2019, 06:39:14 AM »
Well, if Sangay is a real leader, he would have had a dialogue with the CCP and brought the Tibetans closer to their goal. This will only happen in this ideal world. I believe the Indians are not stupid and they would not see Sangay's trick as childish but they thought it was beneficial. However, they have paid a high price for hosting the Tibetans over 60 years. What a waste of the Indian citizen's tax money!

It is clear that PM Modi has had enough of the cheap and childish games the CTA and Lobsang Sangay play. Sangay has been a dismal leader of the Tibetans in exile, creating an environment so toxic today that most Tibetans would rather be Indian citizens or migrate to Western countries.

Everything that comes out from his and the CTA's mouth is so biased, illogical and outright childish that no one respects or pays any attention to them except for those with an agenda against China.

Grow up and please pull that thumb of yours out from your mouth.
It is disgusting and demeaning to the office of the Dalai Lama and to your hosts the great Indian nation.

You are asking too much of Lobsang Sangay! He will never be great. Why? Because he is entrenched in the skewed rhetoric of China being bad that he can't see clearly the future that he and the Tibetans in exile could have in China. How could he see clearly when every moment he is only thinking of how much he can get from the suckers that he tells his sob stories to. Not a lot left that will lend him their ears or open their wallets anymore. Too bad! All those years which could have been used to forge the strong relationships had been wasted.

Tibetan can only come out from their stagnant situation when the entire Tibetan leadership is replaced with a bunch of Tibetans who will really work for the benefits of fellow Tibetans and not their own benefits. The current leadership is corrupted and selfish. Everything that they do is for their own benefit and not the benefit of the public.

Just look at how they handled the self-immolation situation. Instead of imposing laws to stop the unhealthy practice and save precious human lives, they published a book to encourage their people to self-immolate. It is clear that they do not want to help their own people and they are just using them to garner more donations and sympathy.

Hence, Tibetans should wake up now and leave the devil before they get their claws on them. China is not as bad as they portrayed. Just look at Tibet which is getting better and prosper now. Most of the Tibetans are out of poverty due to the hard work of China. What did CTA ever do anything nice for the Tibetans? Nothing!

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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2019, 07:44:36 PM »

You are asking too much of Lobsang Sangay! He will never be great. Why? Because he is entrenched in the skewed rhetoric of China being bad that he can't see clearly the future that he and the Tibetans in exile could have in China. How could he see clearly when every moment he is only thinking of how much he can get from the suckers that he tells his sob stories to. Not a lot left that will lend him their ears or open their wallets anymore. Too bad! All those years which could have been used to forge the strong relationships had been wasted.

If Lobsang Sangay has a dialogue with China and tries to negotiate for a deal, he can lose his power any time which he won't want to. He does not have any respect for China because China did not pay him. The western world has been very generous to give financial support to the Tibetans but no one knows where the money has gone to. But we can be very sure that the money was used to print books and make videos to condemn Dorje Shugden and its followers.

In addition, if internally there is always conflict and no harmony, how are the Tibetans going to be successful in their pursuit? Obviously, CTA does not want to be successful, they only want to get rich. They always create conflicts in the Tibetan community. They refuse to solve problems and let the problems continue to become the hurdle in their pursuit.

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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2019, 06:02:43 AM »

You are asking too much of Lobsang Sangay! He will never be great. Why? Because he is entrenched in the skewed rhetoric of China being bad that he can't see clearly the future that he and the Tibetans in exile could have in China. How could he see clearly when every moment he is only thinking of how much he can get from the suckers that he tells his sob stories to. Not a lot left that will lend him their ears or open their wallets anymore. Too bad! All those years which could have been used to forge the strong relationships had been wasted.

If Lobsang Sangay has a dialogue with China and tries to negotiate for a deal, he can lose his power any time which he won't want to. He does not have any respect for China because China did not pay him. The western world has been very generous to give financial support to the Tibetans but no one knows where the money has gone to. But we can be very sure that the money was used to print books and make videos to condemn Dorje Shugden and its followers.

In addition, if internally there is always conflict and no harmony, how are the Tibetans going to be successful in their pursuit? Obviously, CTA does not want to be successful, they only want to get rich. They always create conflicts in the Tibetan community. They refuse to solve problems and let the problems continue to become the hurdle in their pursuit.

The failed Tibetan leader will never negotiate with China to get back their country. He is a Harvard graduate for god's sake and you think he does not know that the Tibetan cause is dead as a doornail? It will never be revived again by looking at the progress that China had made in Tibet.

He is obviously buying his time by putting emphasis on irrelevant issues and creating excuses for why until now they have not successfully had a dialogue with China. China had waited so long to have a dialogue with them and now they are not waiting anymore. They have clearly stated in the white paper where they are no longer interest in meeting up with His Holiness.

Lobsang Sangay just wants to keep the Tibetans in exile in India to get maximum monetary benefit from them. Once they are back in Tibet, CTA will no longer exist and he will lose his position and his ability to get donations. That is why CTA keep delaying their approach to China while lying to naive Tibetans by saying they are on the right track.

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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2019, 07:38:52 PM »
It's time for Tibetan leadership to really take action for their people. I feel that CTA is still playing games here and the impact is towards the innocent Tibetan refugee. India will not tolerate CTA anymore and they have bigger priority to please China to protect their country interest for their people. You see at India prioritise what is important for their nation and people but you don't see this in CTA. CTA on the other hand imposed religious ban to their people, ostracised and discriminate their people,  CTA recognised another leader that out from their respective lineage tradition. Why create all this to make more people suffer instead of giving religious freedom, human rights, unite all Tibetan, discourage self-immolation and respect all other religious practice?

If the leader themselves can't even control to bring unity and peace for their people what will be their future?

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2019, 08:23:30 PM »
In the news below... we can clearly see... that China will never recognise Lobsang Sangay as President of Tibetans in exile. The news below gives an interesting insight into the Tibetan issue.


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China-Tibet concord dream fading fast

On June 9, Zhu commented on the visit of Branstad to Tibet, in The Global Times, the mouthpiece of the Party.

One man has destabilised China. For the purpose, he has used something which hardly existed a decade ago, Twitter. Though his messages are sometimes eccentric, President Donald Trump has changed the course of the US-China relations. For the first time in recent years, the US has taken the ascendant on the Middle Kingdom in terms of communication and propaganda. This can be seen in all aspects of the bilateral relations. As a result, Beijing feels insecure like never before; this probably explains the rare authorisation given to Terry Branstad, the US Ambassador to China, to visit the Roof of the World between May 19 and 25; a first for a US ambassador since 2015.

A statement issued from Washington said that Branstad spoke his mind; he “urged China to open substantive dialogue with exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader, the Dalai Lama and give the Himalayan region’s Buddhists freedom to practise their religion.”
The State department added that Branstad “raised our long-standing concerns about lack of consistent access to the TAR. …He also expressed concerns regarding the Chinese government’s interference in Tibetan Buddhists’ freedom to organise and practise their religion.”

The ambassador visited several historic places such as the Potala Palace, the Jokhang Temple or the Norbulingka Palace linked to the Dalai Lama and when he met the senior Communist leaders, he encouraged them “to engage in substantive dialogue with the Dalai Lama or his representatives, without preconditions, to seek a settlement that resolves differences”. All this was obviously not reported in the Chinese press.

Wu Yingjie, Tibet’s Communist Party chief, explained to the ambassador the “huge achievements” undertaken for guaranteeing the rule of law, religious freedom and traditional culture. According to the Communist Tibet Daily newspaper, Wu added that he sincerely welcomed more American friends to visit the TAR.

On the ambassador’s return, Beijing used a well-known hawk, Zhu Weiqun, to counter the US diplomacy. Zhu, though retired, holds the honorific post of chairman of the Ethnic and Religious Affairs Committee of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference; for years, as executive deputy director of the United Front Work Department, Zhu was the interlocutor of the Dalai Lama’s Envoys (2002-2010).

Once, when asked whether “religious” members could be admitted in the Party, Zhu famously retorted: “No Chinese Communist Party members should be allowed to be religious.”

On June 9, Zhu commented on the visit of Branstad to Tibet, in The Global Times, the mouthpiece of the Party. Zhu strongly criticised the ambassador, who dared, according to him, to encourage Beijing “to engage in substantive dialogue with the Dalai Lama without preconditions”.

This was not appreciated by Zhu (in fact by the Party, as the tabloid represents the Party’s views). Why? Not only it was blatant interference in China’s internal affairs, said Zhu, but he also questioned the meaning of “seeking a settlement without preconditions” and the definition of a “substantive dialogue”. Though time and again the Dalai Lama has said that he wanted an association, not a separation with China, Zhu considers the Dalai Lama a splittist.

While giving an assurance that the CPC’s Central Committee had not closed the door to contacts and negotiation with the Dalai Lama, Zhu showed the Party’s hard-line stance, “the proposed negotiation cannot come without preconditions.”

In my book, The Negotiations that Never Were, I argued that the “talks” never really took off, because the two sides did not speak the same language.

Already in 1981, Hu Yaobang, the CPC’s general secretary, had submitted to Gyalo Thondup, the Dalai Lama’s elder brother, a “Five-Point Policy towards the Dalai Lama”. The “conditions” were not related to Tibet, but only to the Dalai Lama’s future.

One of the points said: “The central authorities sincerely welcome the Dalai Lama and his followers to come back to live [in China]. This is based on the hope that they will contribute upholding China’s unity and promoting solidarity between the Han and Tibetan nationalities.” It was also said: “It is suggested that he not go to live in Tibet or hold local posts there. Of course, he may go back to Tibet from time to time.”

Zhu Weiqun reiterated that there was nothing to discuss about Tibet, the “negotiations” could only be about the condition of the Dalai Lama’s return to the Motherland and his status... in Beijing.

Zhu explained: “First, it must be made clear that in nature, contact and consultation [these] are not talks between China’s central government and the Tibetan government-in-exile or ‘Central Tibetan Administration’, nor are [they] ‘Tibetan-Han Talks’ or ‘Tibetan-China Talks’. The Dalai separatist political group is illegitimate and ineligible to have a ‘dialogue’ with representatives of the CPC Central Committee.” Beijing wants only to talk to the Dalai Lama’s personal envoys.

Such conditions did not yield positive results during the nine rounds of “talks” held between 2002 and 2010, when Lodi Gyari was the Dalai Lama’s Special Envoy. The second point mentioned by Zhu was: “The Dalai Lama must accept Tibet as an integral part of China, abandon all attempts about so-called Tibet independence, stop all separatist and destructive activities, and recognise Taiwan as an integral part of China.” Why Beijing wants to link Taiwan to Tibet is perplexing!

Regarding the second point, China has been insisting that the Dalai Lama agrees that historically Tibet has always been a part of China.
When a senior Tibetan exiled Lama went to China a couple of years ago, the Chinese told him that the Dalai Lama should sign a statement acknowledging that Tibet has been part of China since ancient times. This is obviously not acceptable to the Dalai Lama and the People of Tibet, as it is a falsification of history. Taking a hard stand, Zhu affirmed that in these two preconditions “there is no so-called Tibet issue, but just the problem of the Dalai Lama”.

It means that today, the Chinese stand has not changed since 1981. All this does not much leave any margin for substantive negotiations and the recent events in Hong Kong, the pressure in Taiwan and the tragic situation in Xinjiang do not indicate a positive change in the Chinese attitude.

Beijing is playing another card; on June 10, the official China News Service announced that Gyaltsen Norbu, the Panchen Lama selected by the Communist Party in 1995 had visited Thailand in May, “the first time he had ever left China”, while the boy chosen by the Dalai Lama as the 11th Panchen Lama still languishes for more than two decades under house arrest.

The announcement came nearly one month after Norbu’s visit; it show Beijing’s nervousness. Norbu just gave a speech at a Buddhist university, but his visit made him even more aware of the “greatness of the motherland and the Chinese Communist Party.”

Tibetans will not be fooled by such cheap propaganda. Substantive progress between the two parties seems to have slipped farther away, with or without tweets.

Source: https://www.asianage.com/opinion/oped/170619/china-tibet-concord-dream-fading-fast.html

Zhu the writer is a season politician and plays an important role in Tibetan matters and the below are some points he made...

1. China does not welcome HHDL to be in Tibet. In 1981, in the “Five-Point Policy towards the Dalai Lama”, it was mentioned that “The central authorities sincerely welcome the Dalai Lama and his followers to come back to live [in China]. This is based on the hope that they will contribute upholding China’s unity and promoting solidarity between the Han and Tibetan nationalities.” It was also said: “It is suggested that he NOT GO TO LIVE IN TIBET or hold local posts there . Of course, he may go back to Tibet from time to time.”

2. A reminder of another pre-condition was that when a senior Tibetan exiled Lama went to China a couple of years ago, the Chinese told him that the Dalai Lama should sign a statement acknowledging that Tibet has been part of China since ancient times. This is obviously not acceptable to the Dalai Lama and the People of Tibet as it is a falsification of history, but China has clearly demanded that and still demands it.

Zhu had also said that the Dalai Lama "refused to correct his mistake and even incited and organized multiple violent and self-burning incidents in Tibet to damage the stability and development of the region…This is why we suspended dialogue with him".

3. Another point explained by Zhu seems to refute what Lobsang Sangay boasted previously,
“First, it must be made clear that in nature, contact and consultation [these] are not talks between China’s central government and the Tibetan government-in-exile or ‘Central Tibetan Administration’, nor are [they] ‘Tibetan-Han Talks’ or ‘Tibetan-China Talks’. The Dalai separatist political group is illegitimate and ineligible to have a ‘dialogue’ with representatives of the CPC Central Committee.” This clearly shows that Beijing wants only to talk to the Dalai Lama’s personal envoys and perhaps this was why Samdhong Rinpoche went to China?

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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2019, 02:12:20 AM »
It's time for Tibetan leadership to really take action for their people. I feel that CTA is still playing games here and the impact is towards the innocent Tibetan refugee. India will not tolerate CTA anymore and they have bigger priority to please China to protect their country interest for their people. You see at India prioritise what is important for their nation and people but you don't see this in CTA. CTA on the other hand imposed religious ban to their people, ostracised and discriminate their people,  CTA recognised another leader that out from their respective lineage tradition. Why create all this to make more people suffer instead of giving religious freedom, human rights, unite all Tibetan, discourage self-immolation and respect all other religious practice?

If the leader themselves can't even control to bring unity and peace for their people what will be their future?

India is clever for prioritizing their relationship with China over their relationship with the Tibetans. China can provide so many benefits to Indian citizens while CTA only causes problems for the Indian government. CTA has been free-loading in India for the past 60 years and they did nothing to get out of their situation. They planned to continue to be in India forever until China decide to miraculously hand them back their country, Tibet.

CTA had wasted the past 60 years doing nothing to achieve Tibetan cause and they are just waiting for a miracle to drop from the sky. Instead of focusing on how to connect with China to negotiate with them to get  Tibet back, they do all kinds of petty things such as Dorje Shugden ban for power game and for their own benefits.

They created such a mess in the Tibetan community which resulted in a lot of disharmonies. Hence, Tibetan are not united now and they always fight among each other. Tibetans can even create a scene at the celebration of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's birthday who is highly revered by them. From this, we can see the level of mindset of the Tibetans have.

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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2019, 08:21:49 PM »

Zhu the writer is a seasoned politician and plays an important role in Tibetan matters and the below are some points he made...

1. China does not welcome HHDL to be in Tibet. In 1981, in the “Five-Point Policy towards the Dalai Lama”, it was mentioned that “The central authorities sincerely welcome the Dalai Lama and his followers to come back to live [in China]. This is based on the hope that they will contribute upholding China’s unity and promoting solidarity between the Han and Tibetan nationalities.” It was also said: “It is suggested that he NOT GO TO LIVE IN TIBET or hold local posts there. Of course, he may go back to Tibet from time to time.”

2. A reminder of another pre-condition was that when a senior Tibetan exiled Lama went to China a couple of years ago, the Chinese told him that the Dalai Lama should sign a statement acknowledging that Tibet has been part of China since ancient times. This is obviously not acceptable to the Dalai Lama and the People of Tibet as it is a falsification of history, but China has clearly demanded that and still demands it.

Zhu had also said that the Dalai Lama "refused to correct his mistake and even incited and organized multiple violent and self-burning incidents in Tibet to damage the stability and development of the region…This is why we suspended dialogue with him".

3. Another point explained by Zhu seems to refute what Lobsang Sangay boasted previously,
“First, it must be made clear that in nature, contact and consultation [these] are not talks between China’s central government and the Tibetan government-in-exile or ‘Central Tibetan Administration’, nor are [they] ‘Tibetan-Han Talks’ or ‘Tibetan-China Talks’. The Dalai separatist political group is illegitimate and ineligible to have a ‘dialogue’ with representatives of the CPC Central Committee.” This clearly shows that Beijing wants only to talk to the Dalai Lama’s personal envoys and perhaps this was why Samdhong Rinpoche went to China?

Zhu is indeed a very seasoned politician by the terms set out for the return of the Dalai Lama. Having the Dalai Lama's return to China will accord the Chinese government "face" and show the world their accomplishment with the Dalai Lama's ceding to their conditions. At the same time, in his staying away from Tibet with only occasional "visits", will keep the Dalai Lama away from his usual stronghold and lesser his effect or power for any political upheaval. It will new territory for the Dalai Lama and I am sure that China will make sure that he stays mostly in seclusion or in a place where religion does not play a prominent role in the people's lives.

On the 2nd point of the Dalai Lama agreeing that Tibet has been under China historically, I guess there is some truth to it, depending on which side the history is coming from. Wasn't it that during certain historic time that Tibet came under the protection of China due to invasion from other countries. I guess from Tibet side, it would be viewed as assistance but from China side, it could be viewed as another of their land paying felty and the Dalai Lama was installed to take care of the state. As such, the grey lines are very subjective and it all just depends on the side's interpretation.

Whatever it may be, Tibet has prospered under the leadership of the Chinese and Tibetans have their living standards improved with opportunities, unlike the serf conditions they had to live, under the leadership of the Tibetan Leaders. Even now, we can still see that mentality with the CTA's governance in Dharamsala where the Tibetans in exile still live in poverty despite billions of USD donations received over the 60 years in exile. So the question is where have the monies gone??? The Tibetans in exile should be questioning this too!!!

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« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2019, 11:20:10 PM »
Well, sooner or later the whole world will snub Tibetan leadership... what on earth can they offer really?

Look even the country that says they want to be independent of China will now need to depend on China, money talks, bullshit walks and the biggest bullshit is none other than Central Tibetan Administration who has a President who needs to go to court and clear his scandalous actions that cheated his own exile community. They cannot even run a couple of hundred thousand people, they want to run a country? In their dreams man, in their dreams!

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COLOMBO: Sri Lanka is seeking a loan of nearly $1 billion from China for energy and highways as the island recovers from the devastating Easter Sunday bombings, the finance ministry said on Thursday. Talks are underway with China's Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) to raise the new loan in addition to the $1.2 billion obtained from international agencies this year, the ministry said.

"We have been discussing with the AIIB to obtain nearly an additional $1,000 million for further development of the Power and Highway sectors," the ministry quoted finance minister Mangala Samaraweera.

Sri Lanka's former government borrowed heavily to rollout ports, highways and railroads, but several ambitious infrastructure projects ended up as white elephants and left the country facing a mountain of debt - mainly to China. Unable to service its loans, the government of PM Ranil Wickremesinghe leased a Chinese-built port at Hambantota to a Beijing company for $1.12 billion in 2017.

Samaraweera said the country was able to maintain economic stability despite the April 21 attacks that killed at least 258 people at three churches and three luxury hotels. The government expects tourism to decline 30% this year as a result of the suicide bombings. The loss of revenue has been estimated at $1.5 billion. Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/sri-lanka-in-talks-with-china-for-1-billion-loan/articleshow/69882816.cms



CONCLUSION: As long as Sri Lanka is depending on China to get money, she will not be able to be free from China.

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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2019, 12:08:02 AM »
There will be more actions taken by India towards Tibetan leadership. The situation after 60 years is different now. India before goes along with Tibetan leadership for their cause as they have the same interest but now everything is different. Looking at the recent action from India more to come for Tibetan leadership and I strongly believe India doesn't want to be the sandwich between China and Tibetan leadership and will do something to make the situation more conducive for them.



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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2019, 07:58:50 PM »
What else do you expect? Tibetan government in exile has been around for 60 years and they are still the same. They did not show any signs of leaving soon and looks like they are really comfortable being a refugee in India.

They are supposed to fight for the independence of their country and yet they show no passion and no urgency. They waited for 60 years and now they started to get a little worried because His Holiness the Dalai Lama is showing signs of sickness while they do not have any high lama that can take over the Tibetans when His Holiness passes away.

They used to have Karmapa Ogyen Trinley to help them but then he ran away due to the harsh treatment that he received for so many years with CTA. India has aided them so much throughout the years of their stay in India and they should leave now and not trouble India anymore. They have no reason to host them and to endure all the problems that the Tibetans have created.

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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2019, 07:57:44 AM »
It is clear why PM Modi has snubbed the Tibetan Leadership. For one thing, it is not in his nor India's interest to entertain Lobsang Sangay and the CTA anymore. China has so clearly shown its displeasure towards the Indian government for still maintaining friendly relations with the Tibetan leadership.

On the side of the Tibetan Leadership, they have not shown themselves as worthy of the continued friendship and hospitality of the Indian government. In the last 60 years, they have not contributed at all to the welfare of their host country . Furthermore, they have discouraged the poor Tibetans in exile from trying to become Indian citizens, thus leaving them in a quandary now. As India is becoming more hostile towards the Tibetan refugees, the Tibetan Leadership by being mulish in their stance towards China, have not done anything to pave the way for their peaceful return to Tibet, China. Instead of seeking ways to open sincere negotiations with the Chinese Government , they have continued to behave bellingerently towards China, encouraging needless self-immolations of Tibetans in China to support the pipe- dream of a "free Tibet" cause.

It is sad to even think of what is going to happen to the poor Tibetans in Exile in India, whose future is so uncertain and whose government is even now distracting them from this serious issue by creating schisms and conflict within, such as by enforcing the ban on Dorje Shugden practice.

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Re: PM Modi snubs Tibetan leadership again?
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2019, 12:49:51 PM »
It is clear why PM Modi has snubbed the Tibetan Leadership. For one thing, it is not in his nor India's interest to entertain Lobsang Sangay and the CTA anymore. China has so clearly shown its displeasure towards the Indian government for still maintaining friendly relations with the Tibetan leadership.

On the side of the Tibetan Leadership, they have not shown themselves as worthy of the continued friendship and hospitality of the Indian government. In the last 60 years, they have not contributed at all to the welfare of their host country . Furthermore, they have discouraged the poor Tibetans in exile from trying to become Indian citizens, thus leaving them in a quandary now. As India is becoming more hostile towards the Tibetan refugees, the Tibetan Leadership by being mulish in their stance towards China, have not done anything to pave the way for their peaceful return to Tibet, China. Instead of seeking ways to open sincere negotiations with the Chinese Government , they have continued to behave bellingerently towards China, encouraging needless self-immolations of Tibetans in China to support the pipe- dream of a "free Tibet" cause.

It is sad to even think of what is going to happen to the poor Tibetans in Exile in India, whose future is so uncertain and whose government is even now distracting them from this serious issue by creating schisms and conflict within, such as by enforcing the ban on Dorje Shugden practice.

It is clear that why India decided to put China as a priority over the Tibetans. Since 1959, the Tibetans had been giving problems to India government. The Indians have been nothing but kind towards the Tibetans but in return, the ungrateful Tibetans did not give anything back to the Indians for 60 years.

When China rises above all and became one of the most powerful countries in the world with her humongous economy, India decided that it is time to reconcile its differences with China to gain profit and benefit to further strengthen their country.

Tibetan in exile should learn their lesson and make up their mind and leave Tibetan settlements for good. There is nothing there for them and they should know it better. They should leave and fight for a better future instead of waiting for their useless government to fight for the Tibetan cause. The cause is dead and there is no way CTA can ever get China to let go of Tibet.