Author Topic: Why are Tibetans in India rejecting Dalai Lama's example to remain a refugee?  (Read 604 times)

Drolma

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It's funny, the Dalai Lama wants to remain as a refugee to show his commitment to the Tibet cause but most of the CTA members have a passport of another country. So in fact, the CTA is going against the Dalai Lama, they themselves don't believe in the cause. The Dalai Lama actually doesn't get much support from the the CTA.

Tibetans have suffered much being a refugee, they don't have the basic right of a citizen, they don't have an identity. They are like living in the bardo, they cannot plan their future, they don't really see the hope. After 60 years of waiting, even if they respect and love the Dalai Lama, they just have to do something for themselves. They have to move on.

It is not fair to let the Tibetans wait forever while the members of the CTA have already had a great plan for themselves. Tibetans have finally realised that the Tibet Cause is a mission impossible. The Dalai Lama is getting very old and they have accepted the fact that Tibet will never be independent. Thus, we see many Tibetans choose to migrate to other countries, take Indian citizenship or they rather go back to Tibet.

CTA is the biggest hypocrite and liar in the world. On the surface, they show a  lot of respect to the Dalai Lama, but in reality, they are only using the Dalai Lama for their personal gain, they disregard the Dalai Lama most of the time. They have to show respect to the Dalai Lama because only the Dalai Lama can command the Tibetans and attract the sponsors.

It is not hard to see that CTA always uses the Dalai Lama's name when they want to give instructions to the Tibetans or get sponsorship from the Dalai Lama. The CTA doesn't have the commanding power to control the Tibetans and they are not able to garner support from the west if they are without the Dalai Lama.

Even though the Dalai Lama is so important to the CTA but the CTA doesn't support the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama shows his commitment to the Tibet Cause by remaining as a refugee but most of the members of CTA have already become a citizen of the country they have chosen. The Dalai Lama wants to pursue the Middle Way approach but the CTA is not cooperative, they are still talking about Free Tibet. Because of the inefficiency of the CTA, the Tibetans have to suffer, they have lost faith in the CTA and they are left with no choice but to move on. So it is actually CTA who does not support the Dalai Lama, not the Tibetans.

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Many Tibetans escaped China went to exile to improve the quality of their livelihood. For this dream, they are willing to suffer and remain refugees temporarily. But not forever of course. 60 years is a long time and for some people, a lifetime. Who actually wants to be refugees for life if they have a choice. Of course they want to assimilate with the local culture and move on with their lives.

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How would you feel if all the members of your leadership have become a citizen of another country and you still remain as a refugee with no identity and you don't have the freedom to travel, to own property or business? After 60 years, there should be improvements in people's lives but this is not happening in the Tibetan in exile community. If I were a normal Tibetan, I will conclude that my government is hopeless and unreliable, I have to do something for myself. No one wants to be stateless. Maybe it is ok for the Dalai Lama to remain as a refugee because he is a monk so he can't buy a property, he shouldn't be enjoying the secular life, he doesn't need a career and he doesn't need to support a family. But for a normal person, having an identity is important.

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Tibetans refused to stay as refugees because they know that the Tibetan cause is no longer a cause that is worthy to fight for. They have been refugees for 60 years and they have been fighting for Tibet's independence for 60 years. However, all their effort are proven to be useless because their government is useless. There is no way that they will be able to get Tibet back from China. All they can do now is to join China or become part of India. They want to have a better life and being a refugee will not help them in any way. It is better for them to leave their own government and fight for a better future elsewhere.
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Tibetans refused to stay as a refugee because they know that the Tibetan cause is no longer worthy for them to fight for. They have been a refugee for 60 years and they have been fighting for Tibet's independence for 60 years. However, all their effort are proven to be useless because their government is useless. There is no way that they will be able to get Tibet back from China. All they can do now is to join China or become part of India. They want to have a better life and being a refugee will not help them in any way. It is better for them to leave their own government and fight for a better future elsewhere.

Honestly, would you stay in India as a Tibetan refugee? Ask yourself that question and you will have the answer. There's nothing wrong with India. In fact, I applaud the Indian government for being so kind to offer Indian citizenships to Tibetans who are eligible. That's why many TIbetans are now applying to become an Indian citizen.

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Honestly, would you stay in India as a Tibetan refugee? Ask yourself that question and you will have the answer. There's nothing wrong with India. In fact, I applaud the Indian government for being so kind to offer Indian citizenships to Tibetans who are eligible. That's why many TIbetans are now applying to become an Indian citizen.

I wouldn't. Let me share some of the comments Tibetans have made.


(Rinchen Nyima, from McLeod Ganj)

Dicki Chhoyang’s statement clearly shows that she doesn’t like Lobsang Sangay despite her four and half years of service under him. She sees that he doesn’t have the right qualities to be re-elected. She did what she believed and felt. I appreciate that.

Those who feel that she’s acting on provincial basis is their opinion. I am not getting any feeling that she’s doing that. I am sure many others in CTA as well as outside that felt how Sangay has been doing and executing. I felt that. He is full of himself most of the time. His ideas are also not that great either.

But she definitely helped make re-thinking for those who have no idea at all. Hope the voters will make an informed and right choice for us and for Tibet.


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Look at this comment by Sonam Tso, this is the type of leadership they have to put up with. So why should they remain as refugees?

The statement released by Kasur Dicki la gives us reason to think once again before we cast our vote for Sikyong. There is good reason for us to listen and find out what she has to say regarding incumbent Sikyong and his view on sensitive issues and style of functioning during his tenure. This election is very important and it will determine the course of our history. Any person who occupies this high position in Dharamshala, should have some noble qualities to lead people struggling for freedom.

I disagree with some views expressed here against Penpa la and those are not proven in the court of law and it is absolutely wrong and immoral to say such unsubstantiated allegations against any person. If any person has clear evidence against Penpa la, then he should face justice and appear before the court of law. Till then he is consider innocent by law of a land and nobody outside court has right to convict him, especially Lhamo la, living in Washington with little knowledge of judicial matters.

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This comment clearly shows you that they would rather not have a Sikyong. But what choice do they have? Also, the problem with the Central Tibetan Administration's bad leadership is not new. People are really sick and tired of Dharamsala's leadership.

Lhamo, from Washington

The choice is simple — choose no Sikyong.

She obviously wants to destroy Sangay, and the only other choice is Tsering who allegedly is a drunk, who murdered a Lama and stole his wife. He is no Statesman. How will any country, NGO, or the international media take the CTA seriously with him in charge?

Postpone the election.

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I believe the Tibetans love their Kundun, and they will never abandon His Holiness the Dalai Lama. But if you have to live under the leadership of Lobsang Sangay, you would run.

Look at Lobsang Sangay - I would be afraid to remain a refugee because  I don't know what this type of selfish, self-indulgent leader will do and what type of problems he will create for me and my family. This is not just a matter of status, but rather livelihood, my children's future and more.

Do you trust Lobsang Sangay? Do you trust another Sikyong who may be worse than Lobsang Sangay?

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Many Tibetans escaped China went to exile to improve the quality of their livelihood. For this dream, they are willing to suffer and remain refugees temporarily. But not forever of course. 60 years is a long time and for some people, a lifetime. Who actually wants to be refugees for life if they have a choice. Of course they want to assimilate with the local culture and move on with their lives.

Recently at the Tibetan Uprising protest in Washington, I heard they shouted, "60 years is too long" - instead of shouting that to appeal for help, they should shout that to their own Central Tibetan Adminstration, especially the Sikyong Lobsang Sangay to stop travelling and spending foreign aid money, and really to start doing something for the welfare and benefits of Tibetans. Otherwise, many Tibetans will continue to migrate overseas, or becoming Indian citizens for a more 'secure' future than to remain a refugee. It's very sad and then we will witness the prophecy of the 14th Dalai Lama, who's the most powerful among all Dalai Lama, and who will be the last Dalai Lama :-X :-X

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Clearly, because the Tibetans in India are not the Dalai Lama, they do not have his charisma and intelligence to remain the world most famous and richest refugee. Only the Dalai Lama can continue to leave like this because he doesn't need any paperwork to travel around the world or go anywhere. No one can beat that.

Until and unless they can become like that, Tibetans who are smart enough would want to adopt real citizenship. There is no point for them to live like that and be forever uncertain of their future while hoping for the chance to rise someday.

It is more practical to get proper citizenship and move on.