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thaimonk

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This interesting article has much food for thought:

1. Dalai Lama is angry and shouting expletives as Lobsang Sangay. Everyone knows the Dalai Lama is in full control. He claims he's retired from politics but this is just to say what the west wants to hear so he can continue getting funding. It looks good to the west that he voluntarily gave up power and this makes him look progressive. But the Dalai Lama controls everything from behind and if you don't agree with his decisions, he will be furious. Every Tibetan knows this well.

2. Interesting the article mentions Dalai Lama's cancer is terminal. Everyone knew this but the Dalai Lama tries to cover this point up. Why? Who knows? What is the problem if people knows he has cancer. Tibetan govt tries to play it down.

3. Dalai Lama is angry as his successor will only be on his terms and no one else may dictate to him the terms as Lobsang Sangay tried to do so since it is not a democracy in practice. As all Tibetans know, the Dalai Lama is the Lama-King and he has full power and no one may contradict him. The face he shows the west (soft, friendly, diplomatic, easy-going, democratic) is all just for the west. The face Dalai Lama shows his Tibetan people (fierce, King, angersome, in charge and must be obeyed) is how it really is. Tibetans know the Dalai Lama controls everything and fully manages all politics. People are not happy with this but dare not speak up as there is no democracy.

Writer Rajeev Sharma is telling the situation like it really is. Finally the truth is coming out. Tibetan government in exile is a regime in every sense of the world that depends on all the hundreds of millions of free dollars it has been taking from the west, Japan, Australia and so on. It exists on free money. It is not a good government and has failed all negotiations with China due to the Tibetan leaders' arrogance. Why arrogance? They think the world will force China to do what Tibetans leaders want and that they are so important on everyone's agenda. Tibetans are on no one's top agenda and China is an economic and military super power. China will not and will never kowtow to the Tibetan demands. It is the Tibetans who must beg China to be friends and get some concessions if at all possible. No country has ever dared stand up to USA, but China has and China is growing in power yearly. Everyone is scrambling to be China's friend and saying goodbye to the Tibetan cause. Tibetan cause is the thing of the past and no economic benefits to support Tibetan cause.

These days every country votes in leaders that can better their country's economy due to world recession. So every country has to do business and trade and aid with China to improve their economy. If you side with the Dalai Lama and Tibetan govt in exile in India, what do you get? Nothing! So leaders of every nation realize this now and will continue to make friends with China and say goodbye to the Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama on a personal level may be rich, famous and sells a lot of books, but that won't get Tibet back. That won't win the support of leaders of the free world and other nations.



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Differences between Dalai Lama and CTA president put Tibetan politics in a tailspin
By Rajeev Sharma, November 27, 2018 SouthasianMonitor.com


Tibetan politics is in a tailspin as there are signs of serious differences between the 14th Dalai Lama, unquestionably the supreme and undisputed leader of the Tibetans, and Lobsang Sangay, president of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA).

The immediate provocation is the unceremonious cancellation of the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon Tradition, which was scheduled between November 29 and December 1 year in Dharamshala. Insiders have revealed that the conference was cancelled by Lobsang without consulting the Dalai Lama.

Even more intriguing is the timing of the move. Knowledgeable sources in the Tibetan establishment in India disclosed that Lobsang made the move while the Dalai Lama was travelling back from Japan, knowing that he wouldn’t be able to do anything to stop it.

Tibetan politics is turning out to be a cloak-and-dagger mystery. According to sources, Lobsang waited until the Dalai Lama was on his way to the airport before ordering the Department of Religion and Culture to cancel the event. Interestingly, the cancellation of the conference is available by way of an announcement in English on the CTA website.

The CTA’s Department of Religion and Culture announced that owing to the sudden demise of the supreme head of the Nyingma tradition, Kathok Getse Rinpoche, who passed away this week in Nepal and in respecting the sentiments of the followers of Nyingma tradition, the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon Tradition was being indefinitely postponed.

The department cited that many lamas and representatives of the Nyingma tradition were unable to participate because of Rinpoche’s passing away.

On November 22, the CTA organised a prayer service to mourn the demise of Rinpoche, the 7th supreme head of the Nyingma school of Tibetan Buddhism. Rinpoche passed away following an accident on November 19 in Pharping, Nepal. He was 64.

Sources say the Dalai Lama is furious with Lobsang Sangay for trying to take credit for his negotiations with China about returning to Tibet.

Sangay claimed that the Dalai Lama has failed for 60 years in negotiations with China, but he has the power and ability to succeed. This is also an indication of how weak the Dalai Lama’s current position is. Sangay knows that the Dalai Lama has been negotiating with China about returning and he’s trying to position himself to take credit for it. Had this happened a few years ago the Dalai Lama would have had him removed, but since his cancer has become terminal, Sangay has been consolidating his position among the exiled community. He controls the press department of the Tibetan government-in-exile and has done so since he ousted Dicki Chhoyang.

For the record, the head of the department, which cancelled the conference, was appointed by Sangay.

By the time the Dalai Lama returned to India the event was cancelled and announcements were issued to the media while he was still in the flight, which would have prevented a confirmation with the Tibetan leader and nothing could have been done to stop it. The reason given for the cancellation was the death of a senior monk.

Sources said that the real reason for the CTA president to keep the Dalai Lama in the dark was because the latter would decide again whether to back the Karmapa as his successor. The Karmapa issue has been a major reason of discord between the Dalai Lama and the CTA president. Sources spoke about a telephonic conversation between the Dalai Lama and Sangay in this regard on November 22 when the former was in Japan.

During this conversation, furious arguments broke out between the two. The Dalai Lama is said to have “shouted” at Sangay, saying that the Karmapa wouldn’t be chosen and that he wouldn’t be dictated terms by anyone. In this conversation, the Dalai Lama used some expletives in Tibetan language which he did not expect Sangay to understand as the CTA president doesn’t know the language. However, a Lobsang aide is said to have translated what the Dalai Lama said.

This marks the most significant power play ever between the different factions within the Tibetan exile leadership. In other words, it’s now an all-out battle between the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay over the future of the exile community, which may worsen in the days to come.

(The writer is a columnist and strategic analyst who tweets @Kishkindha)

Source: http://southasianmonitor.com/2018/11/27/differences-between-dalai-lama-and-cta-president-put-tibetan-politics-in-a-tailspin/




Lawrence L

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From the trend and many facts we can in recent years, Tibetan cause is as good as lost due to the rise of China.

The rise of China is directly harming the cause of the free money Tibetan government in exile is getting, as the ‘sponsors’ are now befriending China. The last thing all the countries would want to do now is to offend China, even Trump is working hard to cease fire with China on the trade war.

Like what thaimonk said above, since Tibetan government in exile exists on free money, very soon they will be digging a dry well. And very soon, they will not survive without the most essential element. It is just a matter of time.  :-X

thaimonk

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Lobsang Sangay is the worst 'leader' the Tibetan exiles have ever had.  :-\Since he was 'voted' into his position, he has done nothing for the Tibetans in and out of Tibet. People know this now. China is no close to bargaining with Lobsang Sangay or the Dalai Lama because China has all the power. Dalai Lama being the power from the throne in his small exile world of Tibetans will not tolerate Lobsang Sangay doing things behind his back as Lobsang Sangay did recently again. Dalai Lama expects to approve of all decisions in the exile government. If not, Dalai Lama will be furious and will show it privately also to his own people. There is no democracy.

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This article is explosive!!!

Once again, Rajeev Sharma alleges of HHDL's cancer which as I've heard from other sources is true so, why is the Tibetan exile government hiding the fact of the Dalai Lama's cancer?

Maybe it is because Lobsang Sangay doesn't want the Dalai Lama's popularity to increase with public sympathy, therefore downplaying the Dalai Lama???

What he also says about Sangay "trying to position himself to take credit for" HHDL's return to China is quite true, when news at the end of October reported CTA having "backdoor" negotiations with China. That, and all his travels to "Thank you Netherlands, Thank you Whoever and Whatever" is another ploy to turn international support against the Dalai Lama. That seems to fit Rajiv Sharma's expose on the power struggle between Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay!

If this article's allegations are true, then it does appear that the CTA is crumbling from the inside and the end of the authoritarian rule of the Central Tibetan Administration may be just right around the corner!!!


Source: http://www.tibetanreview.net/weekly-cartoon-4/

phyag na rlangs pa

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They should have ended this show a long time ago


Source: http://www.tibetanreview.net/weekly-cartoon-4/

Alex

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There are just alot of drama coming from our Sikyong Mr Lobsang Sangay. Did he really think that he is the head of CTA now? He is so naive to believe that His Holiness the Dalai Lama will let go of the power and go behind the scene? I guess now he learnt his lesson. I guess he had it coming when he decided to cancel the event without His Holiness's agreement.

From this incident, we can see that Mr Lobsang is now not in the same boat as His Holiness the Dalai Lama anymore. He is not supporting what His Holiness is working for Tibet which is Umaylam. He has been going around the world taking bad about China. His effort is not helping His Holiness and the fact he is delaying Tibetans' return to Tibet.

Why is Mr Lobsang Sangay is doing this? He does not wish for Tibetan's return to Tibet? He must have a hidden agenda for doing so. Perhaps he is afraid to go back to Tibet under China because China will not allow CTA to be in China anyhow. That means no more free money from western countries anymore.


thaimonk

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According to the international current affairs magazine 'The Diplomat', Rajeev Sharma who is a New Delhi-based journalist-author has been writing on international relations, foreign policy, strategic affairs, security and terrorism for over two decades. He has published seven books so far, five of them non-fiction, two fiction. He is one of the writers of The Diplomat. He is established.

If CTA really wants to refute Rajeev Sharma's writing, they should at least gather more solid evidence and arguments to counter back someone who has been writing for two decades and established his name. One leader's demise which is the Nyingma head can make a conference involving so many leaders from all the Tibetan Buddhism schools cancel? Sounds suspicious. More ridiculous is it was postponed indefinitely. The key is that it's postponed indefinitely. If it was cancel to respect the dead Nyingma head, they should have immediatly reset the date. But they didn't.

This is not some international event or external big occurrence such as a war has broke out between India and China or any internal war taking place within India, or any natural disaster happening that makes the whole conference have to be cancelled without a proposed date to commence again be given.

It could be that what the writer has exposed is actually what has happened. It hurts. It embarrassed CTA and Lobsang Sangay so much, and CTA is using their usual way to "punish" and condemn those who are not buying their lies, not listen to their orders, just like how they has targeted Shugden people. CTA has to immediately condems Rajeev Sharma's article. How can such a senior and respected writer be so negligent. I don't think he was negligent but told the truth. The dirty truth about CTA.



Too bad for CTA.

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Now Lobsang Sangay is showing his true colour, he openly goes against the Dalai Lama. He claims he is loyal to the Dalai Lama but he is not. The Middle Way approach is all over the CTA website, but Lobsang Sangay is still supporting the Free Tibet movement and activists, so what does he really want? It is very obvious he doesn't agree with what the Dalai Lama wants.

Lobsang Sangay as the president of the Tibetans in exile has not done anything good for the Tibetans. He is busy making use of his position to gain personal interest. He has got himself some properties in the US and a foreign, while the Tibetans in exile are still stateless and are still refugees.

Lobsang Sangay and the CTA accuse Dorje Shugden followers are against the Dalai Lama. Lobsang Sangay himself is also against the Dalai Lama! He doesn't want the Middle Way Approach otherwise he won't be still supporting the free Tibet movement and activists. To Lobsang Sangay, money is more important than anything else.

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During this conversation, furious arguments broke out between the two. The Dalai Lama is said to have “shouted” at Sangay, saying that the Karmapa wouldn’t be chosen and that he wouldn’t be dictated terms by anyone. In this conversation, the Dalai Lama used some expletives in Tibetan language which he did not expect Sangay to understand as the CTA president doesn’t know the language. However, a Lobsang aide is said to have translated what the Dalai Lama said.

The Dalai Lama sounds out of control.

And Lobsang Sangay's been sniffing European air for too long if he thinks the CTA is a real democracy and he can go around cancelling events and meetings that might lead to the announcement of a new leader to succeed the Dalai Lama and oops, it might not be Lobsang Sangay.

Oh well, it's now only a matter of time before Lobsang Sangay is deposed and out the door because all Tibetans know it's really the Dalai Lama in charge.

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How DARE the Sikyong cancel without consulting Chenrezig! Seems like his megalomanic tendencies is escalating.

But let's take a step back and look at the REAL reason why Mr. Sikyong cancelled this conference.

This is an important conference where all the heads of Tibetan Buddhism and Bon would meet to discuss crucial issues that would impact Tibetan Buddhism and Tibetans. As Mr. Sikyong is not a spiritual leader, he would not have any say in this conference and he is afraid that he will lose his power and influence. So Mr. Sikyong has used the demise of the supreme head of the Nyingma tradition, Kathok Getse Rinpoche, as a convenient means to stay in power under the guise of being respectful. After all, the longer he is in power, the fatter his bank account.

Jushri

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I have never once liked this Lobsang Sangay and always thought he was really sleazy and well... what can I say... my guess was right! He is not only a sleazebag, but he is also a SNAKE! Looks like he is trying to override His Holiness the Dalai Lama!

He is very daring, perhaps he sees himself taking over and being in charge once the Dalai Lama is gone? I think they will be more bad news coming from the paradise land. And I am sorry to say but I feel I am witnessing the CTA's and Tibetan people's karma coming back like the wheel of sharp weapons!

The Tibetan leadership created so much disharmony and so much conflict and pain with the Dorje Shugden ban imposed by the Dalai Lama... they created so much grief, so what do they expect? The Dalai Lama of all person, I am sorry to say, and with all due respect should know and would know that it will all come back to them. Perhaps, he is prepared but I bet he wasn't prepared to be backstabbed by the Sikyong he moulded to be his puppet of a secular leader. We'll need to keep our eyes and ears open to more interesting news for the months to come...


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The truth is Lobsang Sangay cares about the money, he does not have respect for anyone, not even the people who voted him in. He tries to give people the impression that he is loyal to the Dalai Lama but he is not. He always does the opposite of what the Dalai Lama wants.

The Dalai Lama wants the middle way approach but the CTA and Lobsang Sangay are not taking the initiative to establish a better relationship with China. They are still talking about free Tibet and how China is inflicting pain and suffering to the Tibetans. They fail to see how much progress China has brought to Tibet since 1959.

There is no way the CTA or Lobsang Sangay will bow down to China, they are too arrogant. Besides, if China really accepts the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans, Lobsang Sangay and his gangs will lose their jobs! That is why Lobsang Sangay will make sure they don't go back to Tibet.

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If Dalai Lama is back to Tibet, CTA would not get any more money from their donors.

Besides, China will not allow CTA to be in China too as why would China want to accept people who are known to be corrupted to be their citizen?

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The CTA has time and time again betrayed the Tibetans, the Tibetan really need to wake up to this fact.

Lobsang Sangay is very sneaky to cancel the conference of Tibetan spiritual leaders, as he knows CTA's choice candidate to take over from the Dalai Lama, the 17th Karmapa will not return back for that meeting.

CTA is not doing the Tibetans any favours by putting the Karmapa as the next leader to replace the Dalai Lama , they are hoping the Karmapa can legitimize their authority over Tibetans in exile, and still provide a platform for them to siphon off more money from Western sponsors. 

thaimonk

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Lobsang Sangay cancelled the event for the 13th Religious Conference of the Schools of Tibetan Buddhism, the winner of this round seems only to be China, who is not a participant within the 13th Religious Conference. Without the conference, the future of who leads the Tibetan in exile spiritually is put into question as the conference cannot not be held and no timeframe when the next one will be held. For years I personally have felt Lobsang Sangay could even be double agent, as his action of cancelling this event benefitted China only, embarrassed the Dalai Lama and India all in one go..

Also in the article, questions are raised as to could the Indians actually capitulated to China's demands to stop the conference. As seen in much of the media these days, relations between China and India have thawed a lot in the recent months.

Sent by Lobseng


(photo- Tibetans protest against Lobsang Sangay accusing him of using public funds for his personal expenses and properties)