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Harold Musetescu

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We are all aware of the 14th Dalai Lama recognizing the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama.

Did you ever hear of any official or unofficial reply from either the Panchen Lama or the Chinese Government?

NO!!

WHY THEIR SILENCE???

You would think that they would be publicly celebrating this wonderful news from the Dalai Lama.

Celebrating the fact that their "Golden Urn" method of discovering reincarnated Tulkus was correct.

BUT NOT A SINGLE WORD FROM EITHER OF THEM!!

Here is a link to an article I wrote about this topic.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6137.msg66008#msg66008

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Has the Dalai Lama really recognized the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama? "NO"!!!!!!«

on: May 26, 2018, 06:15:37 PM »

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We have read the stories here and on Tsem Tulku's website about the Dalai Lama recognizing the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama.

But did he really do that in fact?

"NO"!!!!!

The Dalai Lama never stated that the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama will be his "Regent" in his next rebirth.

We did not hear him state that the 11th Panchen Lama will "LEAD" the "Official" search part to find his next reincarnation.

Finally we did not hear him state that the 11th Panchen Lama would be the one to "Recognize" and "Enthrone" him as the next 15th Dalai Lama.

The Dalai Lama's silence in regards to these three question is at the very heart of this matter.

So my questions stand as a remember to all that the 14th Dalai Lama and his Lineage can not be trusted.

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Could these be some of the reasons for the "Silence" of the 11th Panchen Lama and the Chinese Government?

Do they believe that the Dalai Lama is just trying to "Con" them by saying anything to get back into Tibet?

Why hasn't the Dalai Lama or the CTA made any further statements about the 11th Panchen Lama?

The  Dalia Lama drops this "Bomb" on the world and then just "Shuts up"?

It doesn't make any logical sense for the Dalai Lama and the CTA's continued "Silence".

Does the Dalai Lama and the CTA recognize the 11th Panchen Lama as the new "Regent" of Tibet?

Does the Dalai Lama and the CTA recognize the 11th Panchen Lama is going to "Officially" lead the investigation into finding the 15th Dalai Lama?

Does the Dalai Lama and the CTA recognize the 11th Panchen Lama is going to "Officially" recognize and enthrone the next 15th Dalai Lama?

Is the Dalai Lama's and the CTA's "Silence" to these three questions the reason for the "Silence" of the 11th Panchen Lama and China?

Are the Dalai Lama and and CTA up to their old tricks again?

The 11th Panchen Lama and the Chinese Government might just say YES!!!


Harold Musetescu

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On April 25, 2018 the Dalai Lama "Officially" recognized the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama.

That was over 6 months ago without any "Official reply" from either the 11th Panchen Lama or the Chinese Government.

Or was their "Silence" an "Unofficial reply" to the 14th Dalai Lama.

Were they tell him that they had no interest in having any dealings with him about his request to return to Tibet.

They had won and he had lost everything.

Had the Dalai Lama's "Chess moved" in recognizing the Panchen Lama "backfired" on him.

The Chinese have no interest in helping the 14th Dalai Lama in returning to Tibet.

He can "Rot and die" in India because they feel they have won their war against him.

They don't need him for anything and they are tell him and the world that by their "Silence".

The Dalai Lama can die and when he does the Chinese Government will chose their very own 15th Dalai Lama with the help of the "Officially Recognized" 11th Panchen Lama.

The Chinese 15th Dalai Lama and the "Officially recognized" 11th Panchen Lama will be pro China and anti independent Tibet.

He and the Dalai Lama's "Officially Recognized " 11th Panchen Lama will be pro Dorje Shugden and anti CTA and their ban on Dorje Shugden.

The 14th Dalai Lama and the CTA have lost and the "Officially recognized" 11th Panchen Lama and the Chinese Government have WON.

What can the Dalai Lama now do with the "Silence" of the Panchen Lama and the Chinese Government?

Announce to the world that he has changed his mind about the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama?

That the Chinese 11th Panchen Lama is no longer "Officially recognized" by him and his CTA?

Sorry 14th Dalai Lama and CTA it appears that YOUR "Officially recognized" 11th Panchen Lama and the Chinese Government have "Checkmated" you and the game is over.

The "Silence" of both the 11th Panchen Lama and China speaks volumes to the 14th Dalai Lama, his CTA and the World.








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Can this "SILENCE" be part of a "Greater Plan" by both the 14th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden?

Can all of this be part of a "Greater Plan" by the 14th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden to return the Dalai Lama to is throne in Tibet as the 15th Dalai Lama?

Many people have stated that the "Ban" on Dorje Shugden was planned by both the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden.

With the "Ban" Dorje Shugden would be embraced by the Chinese Government and spread throughout Tibet.

With the "Ban" Dorje Shugden would be known through out the world via the news media.

This has now been done and all that was needed was for the 14th Dalai Lama to permanently return to Tibet and return to his "Throne".

But how would the 14th Dalai Lama return to both Tibet and his "Throne".

Dorje Shugden and the 14th Dalai Lama knew that this was impossible.

But the 15th Dalai Lama could easily do both.

HOW???

By the 14th Dalai Lama "Officially recognizing" the 11th Panchen Lama who is pro Dorje Shugden.

The 14th Dalai Lama dies and with the help of both the 11th Panchen Lama and Dorje Shugden he returns as the newly reincarnated 15th Dalai Lama.

The 14th with be "Officially recognized and enthroned" as the 15th Dalai Lama.

The 14th DL will return as the 15th DL and he will spread the teaching of Dorje Shugden throughout Tibet, China and the World.

The 14th DL's exile from Tibet since 1959 will now be over with his return to Tibet as the 15th DL.

Could this be what the 14th Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden had been planning all along?




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Here is an article on this site written on Nov. 9, 2018 by "christine V".

It shows that the Dalai Lama and the CTA lied to the world about "Recognizing" the 11th Panchen Lama" as the true Panchen Lama.

The 11th Panchen Lama will now have nothing to do with the next 15th Dalai Lama.

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=6218.0

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So no more searching for H.H Dalai Lama's reincarnation?
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Did i understand wrongly on this news? That H.H Dalai Lama has new idea to get whom the next H.H Dalai Lama. And, no more searching for the reincarnation of Dalai Lama?

Will the entire Tibetan Buddhism change to new system followed H.H Dalai Lama new methods?
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Dalai Lama says high priests to discuss adult successor

83-year-old brushes off terminal cancer rumor but reveals 2016 treatment
YUJI KURONUMA, Nikkei staff writer
November 05, 2018 22:24 JST

DHARAMSHALA, India -- The 14th Dalai Lama on Monday said a committee of high priests are deliberating over the selection of his successor. The spiritual leader of the Tibetan people also hinted at terminating the traditional practice of finding an infant reincarnation of the Dalai Lama.

In an interview with Nikkei and other news organizations, the 83-year-old said his successor will be "a high lama or high scholar," or a person "around 20 years old."

At least 130,000 Tibetans live in exile, including 85,000 in India. Most of the world's 6 million Tibetans live in the autonomous Tibetan region of western China and regard the Dalai Lama as their spiritual leader.

Though the Dalai Lama did not spell out his intentions, the plan he described is seen as a strategy to keep China from interfering in Tibetan affairs by nominating an infant successor favorable to China.

He also revealed that he once had prostate cancer but is now "completely cured," thanks to radiation therapy he underwent in 2016 in the U.S. He brushed off reports that he is suffering from terminal cancer.

The Dalai Lama has been living in exile, in India, since 1959, after an uprising failed and China abolished the Tibetan government.

Since 1974, he has demanded that Beijing grant Tibet a high degree of autonomy, a shift from the previous demand for independence.

Beijing regards the Dalai Lama as a separatist who still seeks independence.

At the onset of the interview, the Dalai Lama said high priests representing the "people" are deliberating the selection of his successor. "Whether the institution of [the] Dalai Lama should continue or not, it is up to [the] Tibetan people," he said.

The high priests' committee will meet as early as Nov. 29, for the first time since 2011, to discuss a method of succession under which "one elder, truly popular and respected, can be chosen as Dalai Lama."

"I think sooner or later, we should start that kind of practice," he said of naming a new Dalai Lama who is around the age of 20, if a high priest or scholar is not selected. As for infant reincarnation, he said, "eventually [that] becomes [a] disgrace."

China has grown wary about who might succeed the Dalai Lama. Rumor has it that Chinese authorities seek to name a successor on their own, someone who is loyal to Beijing.

In regard to China, he said, "Tibet is historically independent but today it is [of] mutual interest [to have] Tibet in the Republic of China ... as [Tibet] was [a] poor country." He added that he will continue to demand that China preserve the "Tibetan language, culture and environment."

Referring to talks with China on Tibet's demand for a high degree of autonomy, the Dalai Lama said, "Since we don't seek independence, I don't think [political dialogue] is highly necessary."

The talks have been suspended since 2010.

But he showed a forward-looking stance. "I think eventually [the] dialogue will [re-]start," he said.

The Dalai Lama also discussed his thoughts on Myanmar's Rohingya Muslims, who are being persecuted in the Buddhist-majority country. He touched on the famine in Yemen, the Middle East's poorest country, which has been under bombardment by Saudi Arabia, a Sunni-majority country.

"You see in Yemen -- the people, particularly children -- there is starvation. And Syria, very sad, very sad. In this case, the worst thing is that [the conflicts are] in the name of religion. Shia and Sunni -- unthinkable," he said.

The Nobel laureate revealed that through talks and letters over the past year he has urged Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar's de facto leader and another winner of the peace prize, to settle the Rohingya problem.

He said Suu Kyi "clearly mentioned that there are internal problems." Hence, he is not able to advise her. "I cannot do anything," he said.
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