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More troubles from Tibetans
« on: June 02, 2018, 12:16:41 PM »
There are only 199 Tibetans officially registered refugees in the Tawang District of India in order to be eligible for refugee benefits. However, there are actually over 1,000 Tibetans getting double benefits as refugees as well as indigenous people. This is nothing new. The Tibetans are sneaky as usual, taking advantage of the local Tawang Indians who are indigenous.

The ATDSU said "Tawang is in danger from outsiders. Indigenous rights are in danger." Wherever the Tibetans go, they are ungrateful in India and take advantage. Shameful.


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Student body wants Tibetan refugees to be verified

TNN | Updated: Jun 1, 2018, 08:59 IST

ITANAGAR: The All Tawang District Students' Union (ATDSU) has demanded that the state government constitute a committee for verification of Tibetan refugees in Tawang district who are allegedly availing benefits of both ST certificates and refugee cards. The ATDSU has been spearheading 'Operation Clean Drive', a movement to evict all 'illegal settlers' from Tawang.

"Tawang is in danger from outsiders. Indigenous rights are in danger," said Operation Clean Drive chairman Pema Tsering in a press conference on Wednesday.

Tsering said there are 199 refugee card holders in the district as per official records but inclusions as per directives of the state government since 2002 have taken their actual number to more than 1000. "The state government had issued a directive to the gaon burahs of Shyo village to issue ST certificates on the basis of the genealogical tree prepared on the basis of an agreement made in 1936. Accordingly, 90 families were issued ST certificates," he said.

To back up the claim of refugee card holders also availing benefits of ST certificates, Tsering claimed three Arunachal Pradesh Public Service Commission (APPSC) aspirants who were recently selected in the medical officer (allopathy) examination under the ST quota - Sonam Tsomu, Sonam Dolma and Pema Dolma - come from a family which had no mention in the list of 90 families. Their ST certificates are fake, alleged Tsering. Demanding immediate cancellation of their candidatures after verification, he said they have written to the APPSC in this regard and the commission has asked Tawang DC to verify the claims.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/itanagar/student-body-wants-tibetan-refugees-to-be-verified/articleshow/64409572.cms

Pema8

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 02:59:43 AM »
It is understandable that the Indian People do not like the Tibetans if they take advantage of their situation.

The Tibetans receive so much help from all over the world, why are they being sneaky with the ones who gave them shelter and land to stay safe?

 I agree, this is very shameful from the Tibetans!

 

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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2018, 10:59:54 PM »
It is understandable that the Indian People do not like the Tibetans if they take advantage of their situation.

The Tibetans receive so much help from all over the world, why are they being sneaky with the ones who gave them shelter and land to stay safe?

 I agree, this is very shameful from the Tibetans!

They are known to doing such things. Always expected to be given, helped, and always finding a way to take advantage of a situation. But you know what it also tells us, it tells us that their very own leadership,  the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is doing a horrible job and not on top of things. Or that they are culprits in this, allowing their own people to stay this way, and maybe taking money from them. It would impossible for the CTA to claim they are not aware of these Tibetans that are illegally staying in Inda.

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2018, 04:34:50 AM »
This explains why Tibetans have such thick skin to leech on India for 60 years. They just take and always think how to take and where to take. You can see that very clearly through Lobsang Sangay. He has not achieved anything for the Tibet Cause but got a lot of sympathy money in the name of His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Tibet Cause. He uses those money to pay his mortgage, various dates with young girls, fine dining, hotel visiting and etc. There is no hope for the Tibetans to get back their country with this kind of mentality.

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2018, 04:52:38 AM »
I wonder with all the sheanigans that Lobsang Sangay is up to, will he still have time to do his Prime Minister duties.

It is time for CTA to sort out its own backyard for goodness sakes, there are so many disharmony issues happening with Tibetan in exile, also for goodness sake please get your MP's in line and discipline them so they don't appear as uncouth and coarse on a world stage which happened with a Chinese lady who visited the Dalai Lama.

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 07:43:30 PM »
Sangay's ideas of a Prime Minister, President as he called himself, duties are the shenanigans he is doing. This is why that's all he does since his election. There is no sign of him wanting to sort out the CTA's backyard while continuing to segregate the Tibetans and create disharmony so he can enjoy the benefits. If he is sincere in doing anything for the Tibet Cause, we would have seen some positive lights and change in the CTA's ways of doing things but there isn't any. Sangay is still travelling around, having fun, going to Canada and Israel BSing about human rights that he doesn't practise. He is just repeating his Chinese rhetoric and fake human rights cause so that he is seen as doing his work. Pathetic. ::) ::) ::)

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 06:49:38 AM »
True! Instead of making progress for the Tibetans, Sangay is enjoying himself, traveling the world. What is he waiting for? Because the Free Tibet thing will never happen, so much is clear after 60 years.

What is the purpose of the CTA anyway? Going around and speaking against China? Well, nobody is interested. On top, the Tibetans don't practice human rights themselves! And compared to the Chinese, who work for their money, the Tibetans only ask for donations giving nothing back!

So, when will the CTA dissolve?


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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2018, 01:02:43 PM »
Now that Dhardon Sharling is getting married, he can spend lesser time asking her for favours. Although Lobsang Sangay should have more time to do his job, ahem..., he may be looking for another Dhardon Sharling to do similar favours since he doesn't know how to do things. We'll see what kind of joke he will create to embarrass His Holiness and the CTA.

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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2018, 07:15:06 PM »
Very greedy of Tibetans, this is so shameful. How come CTA is keeping quiet about it? Their people are taking advantage of the Indian government, cheating the Indian taxpayers' money, why is CTA not apologising to the local government and work together with them to identify the fraudulent cases?

I think it is because CTA is a taker, so they don't find cheating money is a problem. This shows how ungrateful CTA and Tibetans are. Indias have just realised how ungrateful the Tibetans are and they are now trying to get rid of the Tibetans. CTA better do something to mend their relationship with the Indians. If the Indian government really decides not to support them anymore, where can the Tibetans go? What will happen to the Tibetans in India?

For the sake of the Tibetans in-exile, CTA has to learn how to kowtow to either China or India because CTA does not have the capability or means to support themselves.

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2018, 05:34:53 PM »
The Indian government will make this movement escalate by arresting the SUMAA leaders. Instead of solving the problem, they are being biased and not wanting to deal with the problems that the Tibetan refugees have caused. Tibetans are known to be sneaky and selfish, as opposed to being a Buddhist, and constantly create problems for the Indians by taking advantages of the kindness of the Indian government and their people. What the SUMAA request is reasonable, they have every rights to support their own people's interest before the already little they have will be sabotage by the Tibetan refugees!

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2 SUMAA leaders arrested under AP Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act
July 25, 2018

ITANAGAR, Jul 24: The Itanagar Police on Tuesday arrested the general secretary of Students’ Union Movement of All Arunachal (SUMAA) Suraj Ligu and convenor Tarh Rikham under the provisions of the Arunachal Pradesh Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, 2014.

The arrest of the student leaders came in the wake of recent SUMAA movement against the Tibetan refugee issue at Bomdila in West Kameng district.

SUMAA is currently spearheading a movement against the Tibetan refugees in West Kameng district for allegedly having permanent structures outside their designated settlement areas, besides possessing fake trading licenses, permanent residential certificates and scheduled tribes certificates apart from refugee cards.

The students’ body has been demanding for immediate rollback of Tibetan Rehabilitation Policy (TRP) 2014 which provides for 20% job quota, trading licence and land lease rights for Tibetan refugees, besides seeking a written agreement from the Central Tibetan Administration not to claim Indian citizenship, PRC and ST certificates in Arunachal Pradesh, and a Tibetan refugees’ population dossier.

When contacted by EoA, SP Capital M Harsha Vardhan confirmed the arrest of two leaders and informed that they are arrested under Arunachal Pradesh Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, 2014 as per an order from West Kameng district Deputy Commissioner.

The West Kameng District Magistrate has already promulgated a prohibitory order under section 144 of Criminal Procedure Act (CrPC) in the entire district, apprehending likely breach of peace and tranquility in view of SUMAA’s second phase agitation at Bomdila which was scheduled on July 24. The 15-day ultimatum served to the District Administration by SUMAA to verify the backgrounds 14 Tibetans also expired today.

The Capital SP also informed that an extortion case is also registered against SUMAA members at Naharlagun police station. Both the arrested persons are now in Jully jail, said the SP.

The SUMAA activists were seen protesting at Itanagar PS premises this afternoon demanding immediate release of their leaders or else put them all in the lockup. The security at the police station was later tightened with deployment of CRPF personnel.

Later, hundreds of agitated SUMAA activists ‘gheroed’ the Jully jail and reportedly indulged in pelting stones and burning tyres.

OC of Itanagar PS, Inspector T Bage said that the mob in hundreds tried to ransack Jully jail, but was dispersed after CRPF and IRBn personnel’s intervention.

The OC said that the two arrested leaders were produced before the DM, Bomdila through video conferencing and a case has been registered under the relevant sections of the Arunachal Pradesh Unlawful Activities Prevention Act, 2014.

http://echoofarunachal.in/2018/07/25/2-sumaa-leaders-arrested-under-ap-unlawful-activities-prevention-act/

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Re: More troubles from Tibetans
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 05:57:31 AM »
It is amazing how the Tibetans turn every kindness that was given to them by India into a nightmare. The SUMAA leaders are right to complain but this is not changing anything for them but even worse.

Instead the SUMAA activists are being put into jail. Again the Tibetans enjoy their life but the Indians have to suffer and pay the prize.

Tibetans don't practice Buddhism at all, they just take advantage wherever they go. What a shame!!

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2018, 12:54:18 PM »
The Tibetans are very greedy, they have already received so many benefits and money from India and other international sponsors why do they still want to cheat from the Indian government? Is this how they repay the kindness of India? Who in this world will give lands and allow the refugees to set up their government?

What the Tibetans have done has really angered the local Indians. India has given them shelters and support for the past 60 years, they are given so much privilege by the Indian government but yet they still want to cheat the Indians. If I were the taxpayer, I would be very angry too.

After the incident has happened, we don't see the CTA making a statement to apologise to the Indian government. They did not take actions on the Tibetans who cheated. If the leadership is so ungrateful, I am not surprised the people are also ungrateful. What a shame.

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2018, 03:10:14 PM »
Very greedy of Tibetans, this is so shameful. How come CTA is keeping quiet about it? Their people are taking advantage of the Indian government, cheating the Indian taxpayers' money, why is CTA not apologising to the local government and work together with them to identify the fraudulent cases?

I think it is because CTA is a taker, so they don't find cheating money is a problem. This shows how ungrateful CTA and Tibetans are. Indias have just realised how ungrateful the Tibetans are and they are now trying to get rid of the Tibetans. CTA better do something to mend their relationship with the Indians. If the Indian government really decides not to support them anymore, where can the Tibetans go? What will happen to the Tibetans in India?

For the sake of the Tibetans in-exile, CTA has to learn how to kowtow to either China or India because CTA does not have the capability or means to support themselves.

Frankly speaking, do you see CTA ever showing concern for their people? Not then, No now, Not Ever. Their people can even go to the extent of robing the Indian local people shows how desperate they are. All due to CTA using the funds meant for them. USD Billions and nothing much reach them. Why don't the people make CTA accountable for where the money went? They should have their rights or don't they have rights at all? Are they still living in their feudal state of governance? When are they going to snap out of it as they don't have much time left.

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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2018, 07:36:56 PM »
This is a good idea. The Tawang district should verify all the people living in their district.

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2018, 11:32:33 AM »
This is not something new. Tibetans are sneaky as ever just like their government. Tibetans have been living in India for 60 years now taking their land and resources for free. They give literally nothing back. They are exempted from paying tax as well. Why are they still cheating Indian government to get extra benefit for themselves? There are so many Indian that needs the resources from the government but they can't get any.

Recently, Mr Lobsang Sangay the president of CTA had just announced that the Tibetan Cause will last for another 50 years. He practically tells India that they will continue to freeload in their country for another half a century. What will India think? Tibetan have the audacity to say something like that. Instead of putting in more effort to get back their country and make a connection with China, they just casually announced that they will be staying another 50 years in India.

What kind of government is that? Who stays as a refugee for 60 years and announce that they will be a refugee for another 50 years? Assimilate into India already. India is kind enough to make the process of a Tibetan to become an India citizen easier but CTA discourages their own citizen to become an Indian citizen by making the process hard. CTA is hands down the worst government in the world.