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If Lobsang Sangay was smart...
« on: May 18, 2018, 03:22:42 AM »
Tibet has so much natural resources that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is missing out on! Recently, China has identified a thermal spring rich in the rare gas helium. If Lobsang Sangay was smart, he could have gotten the autonomy deal done with China and can now take advantage of the rich resources in Tibet, working with China to generate profit. Too bad he is short-sighted and only focuses on appealing to the West for sympathy money to fill up his and his cronies' pockets.

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Thermal spring with rare gas found in Tibet

Source: Xinhua| 2018-05-10 16:37:26|Editor: ZX

BEIJING, May 10 (Xinhua) -- A thermal spring rich in the rare gas helium has been identified in Tibet Autonomous Region, and has the potential to be exploited, the Science and Technology Daily reported Thursday.

Researchers from China and the United States believe the helium concentration could be as high as 1.11 percent in some thermal-spring gas in Ali prefecture in Tibet, the newspaper quoted a source of the Institute of Tibetan Plateau Research with the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) as saying.

If helium concentration exceeds 0.1 percent it can be be [sic] industrially utilized.

Helium is a colorless and odorless inert gas with a low boiling point. It has been widely used in aerospace, low temperature superconductivity, the nuclear industry and scientific research. The concentration of helium in the atmosphere is only 5.2 parts per million, making the cost of its extraction very high.

In 2001, Chinese researchers with the Institute of Geology and Geophysics of the CAS discovered thermal-spring gas with a high concentration of helium at an altitude of 4,340 meters, during a geothermal study. They and U.S. researchers with Stanford University in July gathered the gas samples and recently revealed the test results.

China has low levels of helium, and has relied on imports for a long time. There is only one natural gas field in China that can realize the industrial exploitation of helium.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-05/10/c_137169789.htm

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2018, 04:34:55 AM »
Tibet has so much natural resources that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) is missing out on! Recently, China has identified a thermal spring rich in the rare gas helium. If Lobsang Sangay was smart, he could have gotten the autonomy deal done with China and can now take advantage of the rich resources in Tibet, working with China to generate profit. Too bad he is short-sighted and only focuses on appealing to the West for sympathy money to fill up his and his cronies' pockets.

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Thermal spring with rare gas found in Tibet

WELL, unfortunately, he is NOT?
If he is, he would have shut his gap a long time ago about China this China that.
Now he shall WAIT to get royally kicked out from INDIA.
Don't think the Indians cannot smell a snake... they are good at spotting one... and he has swindled his own people millions and got away from not paying any taxes in India. Not for long!

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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2018, 04:21:05 PM »
Tibet is resource and mineral rich, everyone knows that.

So if the CTA and Lobsang Sangay are smart they would make their way back to China and bring other Tibetans in exile back to Tibet.

With more resources come to the surface, China will only tighten its grip on Tibet, no umaylam or rangzen will be able to sway China's position. 

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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2018, 06:24:17 PM »
Yes, if Lobsang Sangay was smart, he should take the Middle Way approach to have China accepting them to go back to Tibet for good. China has invested a lot in Tibet, the infrastructure is much better than before, some may even be better than India. China has the financial resources to further develop Tibet.

The CTA doesn't have any substance, they are not capable of running a country that is for sure. There are only about 100,000 Tibetans in exile but look at how successful the CTA is in grooming their new generation? Until today, you don't see any famous or successful Tibetans from Tibetan in exile community. If the CTA really succeeds in getting their country back, will they be able to run a country that big? The mentality of the Tibetans are not the same as those in exile, can the CTA manage it?

Tibetans in Tibet has been under Chinese's ruling for the past 60 years, people are getting comfortable with the system, their standard of living has improved tremendously, who wants to change it? If I were a Tibetan living in Tibet, I don't want the CTA to manage me, they have no good track record in fulfilling their promise or bring betterment to the people. China has brought development to Tibet, there is a better education opportunity and better work opportunity, why let go?

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 07:37:19 PM »
Yes, if Lobsang Sangay was smart, he should take the Middle Way approach to have China accepting them to go back to Tibet for good. China has invested a lot in Tibet, the infrastructure is much better than before, some may even be better than India. China has the financial resources to further develop Tibet.

The CTA doesn't have any substance, they are not capable of running a country that is for sure. There are only about 100,000 Tibetans in exile but look at how successful the CTA is in grooming their new generation? Until today, you don't see any famous or successful Tibetans from Tibetan in exile community. If the CTA really succeeds in getting their country back, will they be able to run a country that big? The mentality of the Tibetans are not the same as those in exile, can the CTA manage it?

Tibetans in Tibet has been under Chinese's ruling for the past 60 years, people are getting comfortable with the system, their standard of living has improved tremendously, who wants to change it? If I were a Tibetan living in Tibet, I don't want the CTA to manage me, they have no good track record in fulfilling their promise or bring betterment to the people. China has brought development to Tibet, there is a better education opportunity and better work opportunity, why let go?

Well, there is one problem.  China needs to improve its environment and pollution.  It's already polluted Tibetan rivers that were once fresh and rich to drink from, taken down mountains, etc.  I'm pretty sure the powerful nature spirits of these areas would not be pleased by this, nor would they be too happy with the imbalance of elements and toxicity by factories.

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 02:14:45 AM »
China's pollution issues are massive, just look at the industrial capital Beijing. In addition, they are known to hoard their country with waste https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/images-show-chinas-staggering-waste-problem/news-story/5cb9c535e84d940b2028d2cf8a4adae6 which has extended to Tibet for sure including setting its rocket station there https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-launch-china-onespace/china-launches-first-rocket-designed-by-a-private-company-idUSKCN1II0FK

Question is whether China is the ONLY country that does this? The answer is no. China is being targetted heavily because everyone is jealous of their improvement, especially Trump and the US who see her as the biggest threat among other countries.

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2018, 06:58:25 PM »
Pollution is the price one has to pay for the rapid development in a country. Tell me which western country did not pollute or destroy the environment when their economy was still in the developing stage? For example the Rhine river in Europe, it was once very polluted in the 1950s to the 1970s due to human activity. It was not until the 1980s that the river was slowly cleaned up.

In the process of development, pollution is unavoidable, the western countries have been through that stage, why are they condemning China? If their motivation is really to protect the environment, they should give solution and support to China. Like it or not, China needs development to grow its economy and power.

It is also not true that China doesn't care about the environment, the Chinese government has put in quite a lot of effort in solving the pollution issue. According to the Greenpeace, China has successfully tackled the pollution issue in 2017. Tighter regulations and rules are also imposed to help to solve the problem.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2127736/china-winning-pollution-battle-big-cities-other-areas. 

China's pollution issues are massive, just look at the industrial capital Beijing. In addition, they are known to hoard their country with waste https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/images-show-chinas-staggering-waste-problem/news-story/5cb9c535e84d940b2028d2cf8a4adae6 which has extended to Tibet for sure including setting its rocket station there https://www.reuters.com/article/us-space-launch-china-onespace/china-launches-first-rocket-designed-by-a-private-company-idUSKCN1II0FK

Question is whether China is the ONLY country that does this? The answer is no. China is being targetted heavily because everyone is jealous of their improvement, especially Trump and the US who see her as the biggest threat among other countries.

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2018, 07:27:44 AM »
Lobsang Sangay is not smart because instead of doing his job for the Tibetan people he creates more and more problems between the Tibetans and China and even encouraging them to self-immolate!

Of course Sangay and the Dalai Lama should be back in Tibet and working together with the Chinese on autonomy. The living conditions in Tibet have improved so much now. Of course there is pollution, but where is no pollution? Where development happens, there is also pollution but the Chinese are working on it and are finding  solutions.

What solutions does the CTA the Central Tibetan Administration find? Solutions for their own big scandals to hide and put under the carpet. Great! What are the opportunities for the Tibetans in India as refugees? None!

What would you choose?




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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2018, 12:33:04 PM »
Well its an established fact...Lobsang Sangay is not smart! If he was, then all his people would be happy, harmonious and hold him high in respect. They would have received support to become powerful contributors in their society and the world would look up to them because despite being refugees, they had made themselves to be something. With the respect, the world would have been behind them when they face China for dialogue and China would have sat up to listen. The billions sponsored by generous donors could have done so much towards these "could haves". Instead the refugees are suffering hopelessness, discrimination, segregation, poverty, exploitations and desperation, especially those still stuck in the refugee camps. If Lobsang Sangay was not so arrogant and listened with support of the Dalai Lama's plan for autonomy, then he could already be back in Tibet celebrating this discovery of helium. No, definitely not smart at all.....

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2018, 02:23:09 AM »
H.H Dalai Lama has expressed his wish to return to Tibet under China on a few occasions. If Lobsang Sangay was smart, he would have started to kiss China's feet to get on China's good side. If he still continues his actions and goes around the world condemning China and talk bad about China, how will China government think?

On one side, His Holiness starts to get on China's good books and then the President of the Tibetan Government goes around the world talking bad about China. China will be confused about their intention and will probably delay His Holiness's chance to get back to Tibet. Lobsang Sangay is not helping His Holiness, but in fact, causing more trouble for His Holiness to accomplish what he wants to accomplish.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2018, 05:01:26 AM »
Lobsang Sangay is stupid and I started to think he paid for his PhD in Havard. I read the comments from his 2 supervisors and they didn't mention anything about the quality of his thesis. However, they paid a lot of attention to his network and especially the connections he had with Chinese. Well, he hasn't been successful with his so-called network and he continues to fail the Tibetan refugees. He hasn't secured any meeting with any Chinese officials and he hasn't organized a dialogue with the Chinese officials. He is way below being incompetent. He is using the Sikyong role for embezzlement, corruption, sexual assaults, fame, power, international media exposure and making himself an idiot embarrassing the Dalai Lama around the world. Imagine the power the Dalai Lama has in the world and his right-hand man is nothing but a useless pervert who is full of greed. Sad is an understatement to say the least.

Lobsang Sangay is not smart because instead of doing his job for the Tibetan people he creates more and more problems between the Tibetans and China and even encouraging them to self-immolate!

Of course Sangay and the Dalai Lama should be back in Tibet and working together with the Chinese on autonomy. The living conditions in Tibet have improved so much now. Of course there is pollution, but where is no pollution? Where development happens, there is also pollution but the Chinese are working on it and are finding  solutions.

What solutions does the CTA the Central Tibetan Administration find? Solutions for their own big scandals to hide and put under the carpet. Great! What are the opportunities for the Tibetans in India as refugees? None!

What would you choose?

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2019, 05:54:29 AM »
Well its an established fact...Lobsang Sangay is not smart! If he was, then all his people would be happy, harmonious and hold him high in respect. They would have received support to become powerful contributors in their society and the world would look up to them because despite being refugees, they had made themselves to be something. With the respect, the world would have been behind them when they face China for dialogue and China would have sat up to listen. The billions sponsored by generous donors could have done so much towards these "could haves". Instead the refugees are suffering hopelessness, discrimination, segregation, poverty, exploitations and desperation, especially those still stuck in the refugee camps. If Lobsang Sangay was not so arrogant and listened with support of the Dalai Lama's plan for autonomy, then he could already be back in Tibet celebrating this discovery of helium. No, definitely not smart at all.....

I think Lobsang Sangay is smart but in the wrong way. He is smart to use Tibetans' plight to make money for himself effortlessly. He uses his position and power to cover his failure as a leader. Not ony that, he gives favour to women he has an affair with. If he is not smart, how did he manage to get a passport and property in America apart from the money and the women?

Lobsang Sangay is a typical Tibetan politician who exploits the normal Tibetans and doesn't value their lives. His administration refuses to let Tibetan in India apply for Indian citizenship because he wants to use their refugee status to beg for free money.  He encourages Tibetans to self-immolate so he has a case to further victimised himself for more money.

From what CTA and Lobsang Sangay is doing, one will wonder if they are really Buddhists? They claim Buddhism is their culture and they have the responsibility to preserve it, but they are not practising it! What the Tibetan leadership is doing is really shameful. They are arrogant and selfish, that is why they lost their country.

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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2019, 11:30:29 AM »
Well its an established fact...Lobsang Sangay is not smart! If he was, then all his people would be happy, harmonious and hold him high in respect. They would have received support to become powerful contributors in their society and the world would look up to them because despite being refugees, they had made themselves to be something. With the respect, the world would have been behind them when they face China for dialogue and China would have sat up to listen. The billions sponsored by generous donors could have done so much towards these "could haves". Instead the refugees are suffering hopelessness, discrimination, segregation, poverty, exploitations and desperation, especially those still stuck in the refugee camps. If Lobsang Sangay was not so arrogant and listened with support of the Dalai Lama's plan for autonomy, then he could already be back in Tibet celebrating this discovery of helium. No, definitely not smart at all.....

I think Lobsang Sangay is smart but in the wrong way. He is smart to use Tibetans' plight to make money for himself effortlessly. He uses his position and power to cover his failure as a leader. Not ony that, he gives favour to women he has an affair with. If he is not smart, how did he manage to get a passport and property in America apart from the money and the women?

Lobsang Sangay is a typical Tibetan politician who exploits the normal Tibetans and doesn't value their lives. His administration refuses to let Tibetan in India apply for Indian citizenship because he wants to use their refugee status to beg for free money.  He encourages Tibetans to self-immolate so he has a case to further victimised himself for more money.

From what CTA and Lobsang Sangay is doing, one will wonder if they are really Buddhists? They claim Buddhism is their culture and they have the responsibility to preserve it, but they are not practising it! What the Tibetan leadership is doing is really shameful. They are arrogant and selfish, that is why they lost their country.

I agree. I think Lobsang Sangay is not stupid to be able to lie to so many Tibetans for so many years and he did nothing substantial for the Tibetan cause. He did literally nothing but he can still remain as the president and the Tibetans have so much hope and faith in him. He is very cunning and sneaky to be able to pull it off.

However, he should have used it in a different way and actually benefit the Tibetan people who are having such a hard time in India. It is a shame to see how Tibetans are getting bad leaders one after another and they are doomed to be in India forever. They will never have the chance to step into a free Tibet ever again.

China has progressed so much over the 60 years while the Tibetan leadership took their own sweet time in fighting for Tibet's independence. Now that China is so powerful and the whole world is practically afraid to offend them, CTA lost their chance to get back Tibet. China will never return Tibet to the Tibetans.

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2019, 04:38:03 AM »
Lobsang Sangay only sees his opportunity outside China and particularly the country that he can turn to against China. That’s why the US is a long time ally but unfortunately, at this time many countries leaders will want to be friended China for their resource support include the US and many other countries that once supported CTA. Every country leader will look after their national welfare and put their people’s interests as their priority. Who will want to go against China for CTA and what can CTA give in return?

In fact, Lobsang Sangya should change his game plan now to be good with China and work his way to bring back His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan back to Tibet. Tibet is still rich with its natural resources and China has everything to make it worth. This should be the long term plan for CTA.