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michaela

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Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« on: August 21, 2017, 02:54:36 PM »
Do read this interesting article. The author Peter Hartcher analyzes about the troubling message that Lobsang Sangay brought to Australia recently where he mentioned it happened to Tibet - you could be next.

The article quoted Geremie Barme, the publisher of chinaheritage.net, that Sangay is wrong due to two reasons:
1. China went to Tibet to extract resources and for military reasons. It was not a big market for China. While China now also needs a market.
2. China is still deciding as to what role she will play in the world and what she can afford.

He ended the article with the conclusion where Peter Hartcher said, depending on China's choices, Lobsang Sangay can turn out to be a far-seeing prophet or chicken little.

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*China's global ambitions: are there lessons to be learnt from Tibet?*

by: Peter Hartcher

The man who replaced the Dalai Lama as the head of Tibet's government-in-exile has brought a troubling message to Australia. The Chinese military forcibly annexed Tibet in the 1950s, sending the Dalai Lama into hasty exile in India. The Dalai Lama retains his role as spiritual leader. But the Tibetan diaspora elected Lobsang Sangay as their political leader six years ago. He spoke at the National Press Club in Canberra earlier this month. The Harvard-educated lawyer's message to Australia: "It happened to Tibet - you could be next."

This is a disturbing idea, but surely a fanciful one? As president of the Tibetan government-in-exile, Sangay's main agenda is to stir international empathy for Tibet. Encouraging us to identify with Tibet, putting us in Tibet's shoes, is surely a clever technique for achieving his aim.

Does have anything to support his assertion? His case: "If you understand the Tibetan story, the Chinese government [before the military takeover] started building a road – our first ever highway in Tibet.

"Now, we were promised peace and prosperity with the highway, and our parents and grandparents joined in building the road. In fact, they were paid silver coins to help them build the road...

"So my parents told me the Chinese soldiers with guns were so polite, so nice, the kids used to taunt them and taunt them, they always smiled. They never said anything. Then they built the road. Once the road reached Lhasa – the capital city of Tibet – first trucks came, then guns came, then tanks came. Soon, Tibet was occupied. So it started with the road.

"Then another strategy that they deployed was divide and rule, co-opting our ruling elite... They were paid, I think, in Australian context, huge consultation fees." This brought knowing guffaws from the Australian audience.

"So," Sangay concluded, "what you see in Australia and around the world – co-optation of ruling elites, getting high consultation fees, business leaders supporting the Chinese line of argument, and even the religious figures – we have seen all that in Tibet. So it started with the road."

And he compared China's current international infrastructure project with that road: "So that was the consequence of One Belt, One Road in Tibet."

One Belt, One Road is President Xi Jinping's signature foreign policy project. So far, 68 countries have signed up to the mighty vision of an interconnected system of road, rail, ports and bridges embracing most of the world's population and connecting Europe to Asia and the Pacific through China on land and at sea.

However, this is just a beginning; One Belt, One Road was only launched formally in May. Beijing's plan ultimately encompasses more than 100 countries and at an estimated total cost of between $US1 trillion ($1.26 trillion) and $US4 trillion or more. China has offered to link it with Australia's Northern Australia Infrastructure Fund, although the Turnbull government has so far declined.

In the weekend edict from Beijing clamping down on Chinese foreign investment for fear of excess capital flight, Xi's government nonetheless encouraged Chinese firms to redirect their money into projects in the One Belt, One Road plan.

Could Chinese infrastructure be a Trojan horse for Chinese takeover of foreign countries? In May, Pakistan's English-language newspaper Dawn exposed a detailed, 231-page Chinese plan for its 15-year infrastructure rollout in Pakistan. The newspaper's Khurram Husain described it as "a deep and broad-based penetration of most sectors of Pakistan's economy as well as its society by Chinese enterprises and culture".

In Australia, some of China's proposed infrastructure investments have been prohibited on national security grounds. Last year the Turnbull government blocked a $10 billion Chinese plan to buy into NSW power distribution company Ausgrid. China's Huawei communications firm has been barred from any investment in Australia's National Broadband Network. And, as Fairfax's David Wroe reported on the weekend, the federal intelligence agencies are troubled by Huawei's buy-in to the proposed 4500 kilometre fibre optic cable connecting the Solomon Islands to Sydney. They fear it is a Chinese state-sponsored effort to find a backdoor into Australia's critical infrastructure.

A Chinese firm's purchase of the Port of Darwin raised deep concerns in Washington. Ructions over the decision moved the federal government to change the way the Foreign Investment Review Board reviews proposals - the board is now chaired by a former head of ASIO.

Is Sangay right? Geremie Barme, former head of ANU's Centre for China in the World, is both deeply knowledgeable about China and highly sceptical of its party-state apparatus. He says that Sangay is wrong on two counts. First, says Barme, it's a "false comparison" to put Tibet with Australia and other countries in the Chinese worldview. "China went into Tibet to extract resources and for military reasons, it was not a big market for China," says Barme, now an independent scholar and publisher of chinaheritage.net."China as an economic and political entity is deeply implicated with global economics and politics and it needs not only resources, it needs markets." Tibet was about resources, in other words, while it sees most of the rest of the world as markets.

Second, the Chinese ruling class has not yet decided the scope of their global ambitions, according to Barme. "There is a debate in China at the moment - what responsibilities will they take in the world, and what can they afford?

"They have been studying the US imperium closely for 70 years, and studying why the Soviet Union collapsed. They do know that imperial expansion comes at a very heavy price, and are they prepared to pay that price? They don't know yet. They do debate it."

Depending on China's choice, Lobsang Sangay will turn out to be either a far-seeing prophet or Chicken Little.

Peter Hartcher is the international editor.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/chinas-global-ambitions-are-their-lessons-to-be-learnt-from-tibet-20170820-gy0dk0.html

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Re: Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2017, 07:09:16 PM »
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This is a disturbing idea, but surely a fanciful one? As president of the Tibetan government-in-exile, Sangay's main agenda is to stir international empathy for Tibet. Encouraging us to identify with Tibet, putting us in Tibet's shoes, is surely a clever technique for achieving his aim.

LOL... Peter Hartcher can sure sniff Lobsang Sangay agenda out! What is he thinking, not everyone is uneducated, backward and is going to feel "scared" by you scare tactics Mr. Sangay. This is not Tibet and we're not living in 80's. What an insult to the Australians.

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Re: Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2017, 01:11:38 AM »
The "President's" and "Doctor's" theory is so far-fetched that I have to give it a big ROTFLMAO! Tibet was and still is of strategic interest to China because of the natural fortress it provides in the form of the Himalayas. Whoever else controls Tibet will mean an additional potential threat to China. But Australia, and island continent thousands of sea miles away? Come on Sangay, are you smoking something these days?

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Re: Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2017, 02:36:03 PM »
Well, Ringo Starr we have to give credit to Dr. Sangay for attempting to sell a theory of China's ambition of world domination in the continent that is very far from China. How else he could appeal to the Australian audience. What is intriguing to me is the way he was appealing to Australians and the world to help the Dalai Lama's envoy to resume negotiation with China. But on the other hand, he is trying to make the world suspicious of China. He did not even try to do this quietly.

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Re: Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2017, 08:57:32 AM »
An interesting new post by the CTA in response to Australian Reporter’s, Peter Hartcher, article - http://www.smh.com.au/comment/chinas-global-ambitions-are-their-lessons-to-be-learnt-from-tibet-20170820-gy0dk0.html that question Lobsang Sangay’s claim about China and asking whether he would a far-sighted prophet or a Chicken Little.

The analysis makes me even more convinced that Dr. Sangay will be a Chicken Little


*Why Dr Lobsang Sangay will be a ‘far-sighted Prophet’ and not a ‘Chicken-little’*

Op-ed by Tenzing Kunga, Tibet Corps intern at Tibet.net

Exactly a month ago, on Tuesday, August 8 of this year, the President of Central Tibetan Administration Dr Lobsang Sangay during his high-profile tri-city tour of Australia, spoke on the topic -‘‘Tibet and Australia: How Can Democracies Survive a Rising China” at the prestigious National Press Club of Australia based on Canberra.

The talk was attended by top notch journalists and editors from Australian based dailies and media houses. Chris Uhlmann, seasoned writer and Journalist, was prolocutor to the talk.

In his address Dr Sangay reiterated the importance of understanding the Tibetan narrative to understand China.
“If you understand the Tibetan story, the Chinese government [before the military takeover] started building a road – our first ever highway in Tibet.”

“Now, we were promised peace and prosperity with the highway, and our parents and grandparents joined in building the road. In fact, they were paid silver coins to help them build the road…”

“So my parents told me the Chinese soldiers with guns were so polite, so nice, the kids used to taunt them and taunt them, they always smiled. They never said anything. Then they built the road. Once the road reached Lhasa – the capital city of Tibet – first trucks came, then guns came, then tanks came. Soon, Tibet was occupied. So it started with the road,” said Dr Sangay.

While comparing China’s current international infrastructure project with that road, Dr Sangay said “So that was the consequence of One Belt, One Road in Tibet.”

The similarity between the road in Tibet and Xi Xinping’s signature global infrastructure project bears an uncanny resemblance. So far, 68 countries have signed up to the mighty vision of an interconnected system of road, rail, ports and bridges embracing most of the world’s population and connecting Europe to Asia and the Pacific through China on land and sea.

According to Dr Sangay the primordial goal of the Chinese Communists was to make Tibet into China and Tibetans into Chinese. “From the very beginning they wanted to destroy the foundations of Tibetan civilization, culture and identity”.

Dr Sangay acknowledged China’s economic rise and its efforts to lift millions out of poverty but at the same time echoed what Chris Uhlmann said – that with great power comes great responsibility and the nature of a truly great power is how it treats its people and powers that are weaker than it is.

Strong trade bonds characterize Australia-China relations. China is Australia’s largest trading partner, while Australia is a leading source of resources for China. In 2013, China and Australia agreed to establish a prime-ministerial level dialogue between the two countries, which makes Australia one of only a handful of countries to have such a dialogue.

In recent years, there have been concerns over Chinese investment in Australia, Beijing’s establishment of an air-defence identification zone in the East China Sea, and the arrest of ethnically Chinese Australian citizens in China, among others.

The “Belt and Road” Chinese infrastructure could prove to THE GRAND STRATEGY of China in designing its position to be the number one global player thus dwarfing other potential superpowers including Australia.
Dr Sangay is right when he says, “What happened to Tibet in 1950 could happen to you.” Far from being an alarmist or a Chicken Little, President Dr Sangay is being a far-sighted prophet, foreseeing the adverse effects of an adversarial nature of China’s expansionist policy and thereby forewarning the potential preys to China’s grand strategy.

http://tibet.net/2017/09/why-dr-lobsang-sangay-will-be-a-far-sighted-prophet-and-not-a-chicken-little/

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Re: Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2017, 04:08:32 PM »
It is really puzzling that Lobsang Sangay would at this juncture, still be focusing on painting China in a bad light which would negatively impact the Tibetan cause. It is obvious that to avoid straining their economic relationship with China, many countries are not only distancing themselves from CTA and Dalai Lama but also refraining from taking actions which may jeopardise goodwill with China. And Lobsang Sangay is facilitating the decline in support by providing them more justification to do so.

Further, why on earth would Lobsang Sangay continue to antagonise China when they should be figuring out how to bring China back to the negotiation table? It is not rocket science that China’s co-operation is required for any favourable outcome in relation to the Tibetan cause. It is also common sense to not piss off the counter party in any negotiations if the intention is push through the deal with them.

Taking these into account, it is either the case where Lobsang Sangay is really that incompetent and heartlessly ignore the suffering of Tibetans by refusing to give up power to more competent ones to lead Tibetans forward OR it is where the priority is not towards serving Tibetans and furthering the Tibetan cause but more self-serving. From his actions which constantly adversely affect the interests of Tibetans, it is becoming more and more obvious that it is the latter rather than the former. It is as if Lobsang Sangay is just trying to reap as much as he can for himself before his time is up.

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 03:48:33 PM »
With Dalai Lama's wish for autonomy agreement with China over Tibet, why is Sikyong Lobsang Sangay going around antagonising China with his "smart" comparison and scare tactic effect. Has he no concern for his people who are still under stateless refugee status and fast becoming unwelcomed worldwide? Why is he not using his "smarts" to pander to China for that autonomy agreement and then work from within to get the real freedom for his people? If he wins the Chinese over and was given authority then won't he be able to take part in shaping the policies within Tibet??? Always thinking China as an enemy when situations are always impermanent in nature. Move with the times I would advise him and CTA. Stop being over smart! The Dalai Lama is suppose to be a highly attained Master and as such have the ability of clairvoyance of the future so why are you distrusting your Spiritual Leader in his advise? Think about it.

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Re: Lobsang Sangay the Chicken Little??
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2017, 03:37:01 PM »
Yes I believe that Lobsang Sangay, is Chicken Little because he is trying to get the rest of the world to symphatize with the Tibetan plight, since all their strategies are failing to get support and help from countries around the world.

Signs of government failing big time in fact all the way.