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michaela

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Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« on: August 01, 2017, 03:03:03 PM »
Lobsang Sangay is visiting Australia to give a series of public talk. But my questions are, is he qualified to give the talk on the topics below?

On 5 August he will give a talk about  the political, environmental, cultural and economic challenges facing Tibet in a talk titled ‘Tibet in the 21st Century’

Is he qualified to give this talk since he has no country or influence how things are moving forward in Tibet China.

For example, on 8 August he will give a talk about ‘Tibet and Australia: How can democracies survive a rising China?’

How can this person give a speak of democracy if he does not practice it?

I think it will be more fruitful if Dr. Lobsang Sangay discuss about the future of the CTA.

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CTA President to Leave for Three-city Official Tour of Australia

DHARAMSHALA: CTA President Dr Lobsang Sangay is scheduled to leave for Australia from 05 – 13 August 2017. He will leave for Delhi on 2 August and will be in the city till 4 August for official engagements.

He will fly to Australia on 4 August where he will visit the cities of Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne. During the visit, he will give a series of public talks, attend meetings, meet members of the Tibetan community, and give media interviews.

In Sydney on 5 August, President Dr Sangay will attend a luncheon meeting with the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) and give a talk addressing the political, environmental, cultural and economic challenges facing Tibet in a talk titled ‘Tibet in the 21st Century’ at Sydney Opera House in the evening at 06:00 pm.

On 6 August, President will participate in an interactive session with Chinese nationals on the topic ‘The Future of Tibet in light of the current situation in Tibet’ in the morning and meet the Tibetan community of New South Wales in the afternoon.

From Sydney, President will visit Nowra city on 7 August where he will address members of Nowra Tibetan community. In the evening of the same day, he will leave from Nowra for Canberra to attend a Tibetan –Chinese friendship dinner at Tang Dynasty restaurant.

At Canberra on 8 August, President Sangay will give a talk at the national press club, Barton on ‘Tibet and Australia: How can democracies survive a rising China?’

On 9 August, President Dr Sangay will give a talk at Finkle thetare on ‘The question of Tibet in International law, Chinese Constitution and domestic law.’

From Canberra, President will visit Melbourne on 10 August. In Melbourne, he will meet members of the Victoria Tibetan community and attend a dinner hosted by the community. On 11 August, he will give an interview to ABC radio followed by a public talk at Fitzroy town hall.

On 12 August, he will participate in an interactive session with Chinese intellectuals, democracy activists and scholars. In the afternoon of the same day, he will meet with members of Tibetan community at Collingwood town hall before flying back to Delhi.

He will return to Dharamshala on 13 August.

http://tibet.net/2017/07/cta-president-to-leave-for-three-city-official-tour-of-australia/

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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2017, 03:21:59 PM »
Lobsang Sangay is visiting Australia to give a series of public talk. But my questions are, is he qualified to give the talk on the topics below?

On 5 August he will give a talk about  the political, environmental, cultural and economic challenges facing Tibet in a talk titled ‘Tibet in the 21st Century’

Is he qualified to give this talk since he has no country or influence how things are moving forward in Tibet China.

For example, on 8 August he will give a talk about ‘Tibet and Australia: How can democracies survive a rising China?’

How can this person give a speak of democracy if he does not practice it?

I think it will be more fruitful if Dr. Lobsang Sangay discuss about the future of the CTA.

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CTA President to Leave for Three-city Official Tour of Australia

DHARAMSHALA: CTA President Dr Lobsang Sangay is scheduled to leave for Australia from 05 – 13 August 2017. He will leave for Delhi on 2 August and will be in the city till 4 August for official engagements.

He will fly to Australia on 4 August where he will visit the cities of Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne. During the visit, he will give a series of public talks, attend meetings, meet members of the Tibetan community, and give media interviews.

In Sydney on 5 August, President Dr Sangay will attend a luncheon meeting with the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) and give a talk addressing the political, environmental, cultural and economic challenges facing Tibet in a talk titled ‘Tibet in the 21st Century’ at Sydney Opera House in the evening at 06:00 pm.

On 6 August, President will participate in an interactive session with Chinese nationals on the topic ‘The Future of Tibet in light of the current situation in Tibet’ in the morning and meet the Tibetan community of New South Wales in the afternoon.

From Sydney, President will visit Nowra city on 7 August where he will address members of Nowra Tibetan community. In the evening of the same day, he will leave from Nowra for Canberra to attend a Tibetan –Chinese friendship dinner at Tang Dynasty restaurant.

At Canberra on 8 August, President Sangay will give a talk at the national press club, Barton on ‘Tibet and Australia: How can democracies survive a rising China?’

On 9 August, President Dr Sangay will give a talk at Finkle thetare on ‘The question of Tibet in International law, Chinese Constitution and domestic law.’

From Canberra, President will visit Melbourne on 10 August. In Melbourne, he will meet members of the Victoria Tibetan community and attend a dinner hosted by the community. On 11 August, he will give an interview to ABC radio followed by a public talk at Fitzroy town hall.

On 12 August, he will participate in an interactive session with Chinese intellectuals, democracy activists and scholars. In the afternoon of the same day, he will meet with members of Tibetan community at Collingwood town hall before flying back to Delhi.

He will return to Dharamshala on 13 August.

http://tibet.net/2017/07/cta-president-to-leave-for-three-city-official-tour-of-australia/


What a JOKE!

But of course, he has to do this to pretend everything is okay because the truth is what has CTA done so far? Nothing. So all these meetings are just to maintain themselves, to get more money for themselves and their own lavish lifestyle. If they were smart, and want to really work with China, they would stop irritating them that. But at the rate they are going, I doubt it is going to ever happen!

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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2017, 06:27:47 PM »
Actually for Lobsang Sangay should work with China if he really cares about the long term survival of his institution, the Central Tibetan Administration. At the rate they are going now to alienate China and trying to make countries that increasingly depended on China and will eventually abandon them to be on China's good side is a doomed strategy.

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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2017, 09:31:20 AM »
Lobsang Sangay is visiting Australia to give a series of public talk. But my questions are, is he qualified to give the talk on the topics below?

On 5 August he will give a talk about  the political, environmental, cultural and economic challenges facing Tibet in a talk titled ‘Tibet in the 21st Century’

Is he qualified to give this talk since he has no country or influence how things are moving forward in Tibet China.



Good question. However, him busy travelling does not bring much results to the Tibetan cause and issue. However, he is not helping with the relations of India and China according to the latest news, pointing that Dokhlam is only a symptom of China’s expansionist foreign policy.

Below from the news,

Speaking to Republic TV on the sidelines of the Hansraj event on the current Doklham standoff, Dr Sangay recalled the ‘five-finger’ analogy strategized by Mao Zedong.

“In early 1950’s the then Chairman of People’s Republic of China termed Tibet as China’s right hand palm whereas Ladakh, Nepal, Sikkim, Bhutan and Arunachal Pradesh are its five fingers. Therefore, China’s flexing of its military muscle is a manifestation of its decades old strategy to encircle and weaken India,” said Dr Sangay.

Dr Sangay further cautioned India to stay alert on this matter. “I always tell India and the world to take heed of the Tibet narrative. We have been telling India for the last 50 years that what happened to us (Tibet) could happen to you.

“One has to understand Tibet to understand China. What is happening in Dokhlam now, happened to Tibet in 1959 (referring to the illegal Chinese occupation of Tibet),” affirmed Dr Sangay.

The standoff between the Chinese and Indian armies of the two countries began in mid June this year and has been officially one of the longest between both countries since the 1962 war. According to the Indian media, the Indian defense establishment is opposed to China’s attempts to construct a road on the Doklam plateau on the Sikkim-Bhutan-Tibet tri-junction.


Last week, Dr. Lobsang Sangay was conferred with the prestigious “Mahatma Hansraj Gaurav Samman’ by his alma mater Hanrsaj College, University of Delhi. The theme of the honor underpinned his contribution to the Tibetan freedom struggle and in recognition of his accomplishments as an illustrious alumnus of Hansraj College.

I think University of Delhi should really think again. Dr Lobsang Sangay was famous for promoting the religious persecution of Dorje Shugden (Dolgyal) practitioners - http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/the-controversy/the-cta-digs-itself-into-a-hole-again/ , the unethical election highlighted by US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher - http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/congressman-dana-rohrabachers-warning-over-unethical-tibetan-elections/, I wonder why University of Delhi wanted to praise such a man that created so much issues within the Tibetan community? It cannot be that the University of Delhi was unaware of Dr Lobsang Sangay's activities? Could they have been so ignorant?


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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2017, 09:21:18 AM »
Talk about self promotion, I believe the President of CTA is pretty good at it.  Although those who knows like the oppressed Dorje Shugen devotees, his act is fake.

Oh well, he still needs to try right? With the poor elderly Dalai Lama fame waning on the world stage, someone need to step in. 

So welcome the clowns who speak not the truth but falsehood. And mind you, people are not stupid.  You can fool them once but all the time.

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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2017, 10:18:54 AM »
This is for sure sad! Oppressor speaks about Democracy! We should tell them to have a read at www.dorjeshugden.com and then think again if he is the right person to speak about Democracy!


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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2017, 02:42:24 AM »
New development on Lobsang Sangay's visit to Australia -

Lobsang Sangay is appealing for Australia’s support and called for the Chinese government to embrace the Middle Way approach.

*Leader in exile: Tibetan president calls for Australia's support*

The president of the Tibetan government-in-exile called on the Australian government to lobby for full Tibetan autonomy in China.
Dr Lobsang Sangay is set to make a speech at the National Press Club in Canberra on Tuesday on the back of a Sydney Opera House talk on Saturday.

Speaking to Fairfax Media, Mr Sangay called for the Chinese government to embrace the 'Middle Way' approach, allowing Tibetan people to vote for their representatives in China.
"If the Chinese government ends the oppression and gives genuine autonomy as per Chinese laws, then we will not seek separation from China," Mr Sangay said.
"We welcome the support and appeal to the Australian government."

Mr Sangay said no Australian government officials had offered to meet him while he was in the country.

Officially, Tibet is a province of China headed by a Communist Party-appointed administrator.
"He is a Chinese person ruling over Tibetan people and I am a Tibetan who has the mandate of the Tibetan people," Mr Sangay said.

Tibet's famous Buddhist spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, announced in 2011 he wished to hand his political functions to an elected official.

"So the Tibetan movement will be taken forward by the Tibetan people and not be dependent on a single person," Mr Sangay said.
Exiled Tibetans have twice voted Mr Sangay as sikyong–or president–of the India-based Central Tibetan Administration.

Mr Sangay said the Australian government feared to formally recognise his position out of fear of upsetting China, one of the nation's leading trading partners.

"That's why we say it's a double standard, the exile status is not the reason but who you are dealing with is the reason," he said.
Mr Sangay pointed to the international community's embrace of the exiled Syrian government as contradictory despite his government's embrace of non-violence.

"We use non-violence as a means and dialogue as a process," he said.

Mr Sangay added that heavy industrialisation of the Tibetan plateau due to an influx of Chinese migrants and Chinese state-sponsored mining in the region was damaging the local environment.

The degradation is endangering the "water tower of Asia" for 1.4 billion people who rely on water flowing from the plateau.
"The first casualty will be China and the Chinese people," Mr Sangay said.

Mr Sangay himself has never been to Tibet. His father fled Tibet at the same time as the Dalai Lama in 1959. Mr Sangay was born in a refugee camp in India in 1968.

Ultimately, Mr Sangay hoped to see the Dalai Lama return to his "rightful place" in Lhasa, Tibet's capital and he thanked Australians for their support.

"Continue to be with us for this march of justice, which will be resolved sooner than later."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/leader-in-exile-tibetan-president-calls-for-australias-support-20170806-gxqags.html

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 05:55:59 AM »
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Ultimately, Mr Sangay hoped to see the Dalai Lama return to his "rightful place" in Lhasa, Tibet's capital and he thanked Australians for their support.

"Continue to be with us for this march of justice, which will be resolved sooner than later."

What justice is he talking about when he and his admin is causing all the injustice to his own people!

If he truly "HOPES" to see Dalai Lama return to Lhasa.... then stop provoking or irritating China. At the rate he is going, we can already predict, bring Dalai Lam it is yet another FAILURE for the Tibetan Leadership.

Where on earth have you ever come across a government with so much hypocrisy, double standards a contradicts themselves at every step? I am just utterly amazed how come the western journalists have not picked up on this yet. It is so obvious.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2017, 02:32:56 PM »
It was only yesterday that Lobsang Sangay was asking the world community for support so that the Dalai Lama's envoys can resume negotiation with China. And today, he is back into criticizing China again.

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Over a million died in Tibet as a result of China’s invasion: President

Canberra — More than a million Tibetans died in Tibet as a direct result of China's unjust policies, military occupation, and illogical economic policies, said President Dr Lobsang Sangay while speaking on the topic ''Tibet and Australia: How Can Democracies Survive a Rising China", at the National Press Club of Australia based in Canberra on Tuesday, August 8, 2017.

Dr Lobsang Sangay President of the Central Tibetan Administration was at the National Press Club of Australia based in Canberra on Tuesday, August 8, to speak on the topic ''Tibet and Australia: How Can Democracies Survive a Rising China'.

Eminent journalists and editors from leading Australian dailies and media houses attended the talk. Chris Uhlmann, a writer and a veteran Australian journalist known for his acerbic political observations, moderated the talk.

President Dr Lobsang Sangay, in his talk, spoke about how China occupied Tibet using tactics of carrot and stick to win the over the native population, and what Australia and the world can learn about China from it.

"To understand China, you have to understand the Tibet narrative. Without understanding the Tibet issue, you can never figure out China and their ideology," Dr Sangay began.

"China came into Tibet with the promise of peace and prosperity. They built roads, bridges, and airports in the name of development. They even co-opted a few religious leaders and aristocratic families to influence the Tibetan public. But even after all this, China has not been able to win the Tibetan people's loyalty," he said.

"More than a million Tibetans died in Tibet as a result of China's unjust policies. Some died as a direct result of military occupation, some died in famines caused China's illogical economic policies, some died in labor camps, etc.," he added.

"98% of Tibetan monasteries and nunneries were destroyed and 99% of monks and nuns were forcibly disrobed during the occupation. From the very beginning, Chinese government's objective was to transform Tibet into China and Tibetans into Chinese. They wanted to eradicate the very foundation of Tibetan culture and civilization," he said.

"What's terrifying now is that we are seeing this Chinese tactic of power and intimidation unfold all over the world today, albeit under different trade and development initiatives," he pointed out.

"China is one of Australia's most important trading partners, making a strong relationship vital to Australia's national interest. But there are growing concerns about covert Chinese actions taking place on Australian soil. Every government has an interest in promoting itself abroad to extend its soft power. However, their intimidation tactics to increase control and silence dissent is a threat to the democratic principles that Australia stands for," he said.

"Therefore, as a Tibetan, I have to tell you what happened to Tibet in the early 1950s. However, it could be you tomorrow. What happened to us could easily happen to you. Given the discourse around the world, people are worried about China's intentions. And rightly so," he declared.

Chris Ulhman, in his introductory remarks, lauded China's rapid economic rise in the last thirty years particularly its marvelous achievement of lifting millions of people out of poverty. However, he said true greatness of a nation is measured in how it treats its people rather than economic or military might.

"So we should not forget Tibet and the lessons that it gives us in our dealings with China," he said.

This was Dr Sangay's second visit to the National Press Club of Australia. His last visit to the club was in June 2012. At that time, he spoke about Tibetan democracy, the current situation in Tibet and the choices Australia must make in its relationship with China.

http://www.thetibetpost.com/en/news/exile/5675-over-a-million-died-in-tibet-as-a-result-of-chinas-invasion-president

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Re: Lobsang Sangay to give a talk about Democracy in Australia?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 01:20:02 PM »
HE IS NOT EVEN QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY!!!!! Why? See the lives of the Tibetans in exiled who are in Dharamsala. What did the Prime Minister do for them? There are still many of them suffering and self-immolate themselves. How can a Prime Minister not do anything about it? Does he even feel sorry or sad for them? Did he ever think ways to solve the problem? Guess not!! All he thinks is for himself and his own life. How can a selfish person give talks about DEMOCRACY? It does not make any sense at all. By right it should be the other way around, Australians to come and teach Lobsang Sangay what democracy is.

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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 04:29:58 PM »
Supporting Tibetans to immolate is wrong, on so many levels.

It is not right ethically to ask someone to die for their country in such a horrible way, in so much pain.

Spiritually it is wrong for CTA to, ask their people to take their own lives.

CTA, is not white sheep either, with all the problems they have stirred with the 2 Karmapas, Karma Kagyu vs Drukpa Kagyu, the Jonang, Lukar Jam, Mangtso closuer issue etc. So no idea what the ostriches in Australia are thinking inviting Lobsang Sangay to talk about democracy. 

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2017, 08:01:47 PM »
Lobsang Sangay's Australia visit has been concluded. There is no achievements or pledge of support from the Australians, and he had just spent the week there to defame and build even more suspicion with China. He is not getting any closer to the negotiation table with China if that is what he really wants.