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michaela

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India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« on: April 16, 2017, 01:45:50 AM »
India has officially confirmed that Tibet is part of China. India can be considered as Tibetan and the Dalai Lama biggest supporter and sponsor. Not only they provided financial assistance to the CTA, but India also allowed Tibetan government in exile to stay within its domain. The fact that India, their host country has acknowledged that Tibet is part of China means that even their biggest supporter does not see the future in Tibetan government in exile.

Previously, the Dalai Lama has also confirmed that Tibet is part of China.

As events unfolded, it has become clear that the CTA should build rapport with China since Tibet is part of China and their future is depended on China. 

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No change in India's position on Tibet being part of China: MEA

NEW DELHI: India on Friday asserted that there is no change in its position on Tibet being part of China and it will continue to seek a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution to the vexed boundary issue.

External affairs ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay said, "Let me make it absolutely clear that there is no change whatsoever in the Government of India's policy towards the Tibet Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China.

"Similarly, our approach to seeking a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution to the boundary question remains unchanged."

He was responding to a query on whether the visit of the Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh signals a change in India's policy on Tibet or on the boundary negotiation issue.

India's position on Tibet has been that it is a part of China.

However, after Tibetan spiritual leader's recent trip to Arunachal Pradesh, China had accused India of violating its commitment on the Tibet issue and warned that allowing the Dalai Lama to go there will have "negative impact" on the settlement of the border dispute.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/no-change-in-indias-position-on-tibet-being-part-of-china-mea/articleshow/58182984.cms

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2017, 03:59:01 PM »
All of the big & powerful countries agree that Tibet is part of China. Take USA as an example, no matter how much disagreement, USA will dare not change their policy and agrees that Tibet is part of China. China has grown very strong in the past 20 years, and they insist others to follow 1 China policy. Most will agree for various reasons.

There is no future for CTA, not at least for long term. What CTA officials are doing now, is to keep stirring the emotions, and continue to get donation from westerners, and CTA officials will just pocket as much for their own benefits. CTA officials are just milking as much as they can before there is nothing left for them.

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2017, 06:18:36 PM »
Dear Kris

I agree with you. I think the CTA also knows that there is no future for them. The Tibetans in exile will either assimilate with the culture of their host countries or return to Tibet China. If the CTA's objective for Tibet cause is to preserve Tibetan culture, as the Sikyong often said, then the reason Tibetan cause is still relevant is because the CTA would like to preserve Tibetan culture. If the Tibetans in exile assimilate with the local culture, definitely the objective of cultural preservation is defeated. However, if the CTA work to build rapport and trust with the Chinese and obtain meaningful autonomy from them, they will have better success to preserve Tibetan culture.

Otherwise, why anyone would like to maintain their status as a refugee for almost 60 years and forgo the benefits of being a citizen of a sovereign nation?

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2017, 08:49:38 PM »
India has officially confirmed that Tibet is part of China. India can be considered as Tibetan and the Dalai Lama biggest supporter and sponsor. Not only they provided financial assistance to the CTA, but India also allowed Tibetan government in exile to stay within its domain. The fact that India, their host country has acknowledged that Tibet is part of China means that even their biggest supporter does not see the future in Tibetan government in exile.

Previously, the Dalai Lama has also confirmed that Tibet is part of China.

As events unfolded, it has become clear that the CTA should build rapport with China since Tibet is part of China and their future is depended on China. 

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No change in India's position on Tibet being part of China: MEA

NEW DELHI: India on Friday asserted that there is no change in its position on Tibet being part of China and it will continue to seek a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution to the vexed boundary issue.

External affairs ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay said, "Let me make it absolutely clear that there is no change whatsoever in the Government of India's policy towards the Tibet Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China.

"Similarly, our approach to seeking a fair, reasonable and mutually acceptable solution to the boundary question remains unchanged."

He was responding to a query on whether the visit of the Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh signals a change in India's policy on Tibet or on the boundary negotiation issue.

India's position on Tibet has been that it is a part of China.

However, after Tibetan spiritual leader's recent trip to Arunachal Pradesh, China had accused India of violating its commitment on the Tibet issue and warned that allowing the Dalai Lama to go there will have "negative impact" on the settlement of the border dispute.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/no-change-in-indias-position-on-tibet-being-part-of-china-mea/articleshow/58182984.cms


Right from the beginning, India saw Tibet as a part of China via the Panchscheel Agreement signed in 1954 by Nehru himself. And again in 2003, then Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee explicitly affirmed India's stance which regards Tibet as a Chinese region when he visited Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao. In 2014, when Lobsang Sangay was invited to attend the inaugural ceremony of the incoming Indian PM Narendra Modi, the Central Tibean Administration played it up as if India was changing its position on Tibet. Three years later the recent statement by External affairs ministry spokesperson Gopal Baglay confirms that there's really no change in India's policy towards Tibet and it is unlikely that there will ever be one.

India which shares a border with China has so much more to gain by being friends and allies with the Asian giant whereas the Tibetan government in exile has nothing to offer. If anything the Tibet issue is simply a card in a whole deck which India will play at the right time for concessions with China.

If there is any change, it is that the Tibetan people's welcome in India is wearing thin. In 2016, BJP President Amit Shah called off his meeting with the Dalai Lama. In the same year, the Indian Government denied approval for some participants to attend an anti-China conference in Dharamsala which is the Dalai Lama and CTA's own turf. And its not just India and more and more countries shun the Tibetan exile government and the Dalai Lama. Recently the meeting between President Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping saw the US President stating clearly his intention of being China's friend.

Looking at the trajectory of the 'Tibetan issue', its a mis-guided missile that is off course, out of fuel and out of purpose.





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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2017, 03:43:45 PM »
It sound like a big slap to CTA but at this time who doesn’t want to be friend with China. Even USA President has a good time with the China President during his visit and was a great meet up between this two giant countries. I think this relationship is more worrying to CTA. Just the matter of time the westerner will pull off their funding to CTA. Basically politic is about benefit. What can CTA give compare to China? This is obvious right.

Tibet is part of China this is the fact. If CTA still in the denial state that is too bad and is not going to help Tibetan in anyway. CTA should really start being friend with China before it’s really too late. There is no reason for other country to go against China by supporting CTA and some already declare Tibetan as China citizen.

CTA has been wasting the time and fund ever since residing in India. There would even spend their time and fund on separating and discriminating their own people by using Dorje Shugden practice. The world is watching how CTA split their own people and with what reason people would have confident for CTA to rule their government? This just make the situation more worst for CTA.

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2017, 04:32:34 AM »
It appears that Sikyong Lobsang Sangay is refuting the Dalai Lama who has previously declared that he supports One China Policy: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/china-fooling-citizens-about-my-visit-dalai-lama-says/articleshow/58088347.cms

In addition, Sikyong is going against Indian (the CTA’s host country) policy that acknowledged Tibet as part of China. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/no-change-in-indias-position-on-tibet-being-part-of-china-mea/articleshow/58182984.cms

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*Tibet was never a part of China, Sikyong told Chinese students*

Dharamshala — Tibet was never a part of China but Middle Way Approach remains a mutually acceptable solution of the issue of Tibet, said democratically elected Tibetan political leader, Sikyong Dr Lobsang Sangay who was on a two day tour to Australia from April 28.

With his message of non-violence freedom struggle for Tibet, Dr Lobsang Sangay, spoke about history of Tibet, Middle-way Appoach and other Tibet related issues to a group of Chinese students from China.

Dr Sangay arrived in in Brisbane, capital of Queensland, Australia on April 28 to begin his two-day tour of the country along with Representative Lhakpa Tshoko, according to the office of Tibet in Australia.

It said that Sikyong met students from Mainland China, interacted with them by exchanging views and thoughts about Tibet and China. Sikyong spoke about Tibet China relation, both past and present.

He explained them the reasons why Tibet was never a part of China, current situation in Tibet and gave them information about the Cultural Revolution when Tibet's sacred monasteries were demolished; sacred Buddhist literatures burned, captured monks and nuns and tortured them.

Sikyong also touched on China's policy on population transfer of Han Chinese; how they affected Tibetans to become secondary citizens in their own country.

Dr Sangay also spoke and explained the Middle Way Policy initiated by His Holiness that seeks genuine autonomy for the Tibetan people within the constitutional framework of China through meaningful dialogue.

Speaking to Tibetan community, Sikyong spoke on various issues relating to Tibetan struggle including the importance of unity and preserving the rich Tibetan language and culture as advised by His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

http://www.thetibetpost.com/en/news/international/5506-tibet-was-never-a-part-of-china-sikyong-told-chinese-students

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2017, 12:27:50 AM »
Any visit to any country by HH Dalai lama will always a sensitive issue to China, and this is known by the world. This is because China accuses the Tibetans in exile and the Dalai Lama of plotting to separate Tibet from the motherland.  And after the visit, India feels the pain and for the benefit of the country, India has to acknowledge Tibet is part of China.

At this point, CTA should know that they should find way to work together with China instead of keep against China which brings no result to them. Moreover, the world has noticed that Tibetan areas are much more wealthy under Beijing's rule. Hope CTA can focus on to bring benefit to their peoples and not keep using religion as their political tools.


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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2017, 01:47:20 AM »
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At this point, CTA should know that they should find way to work together with China

This is like asking the Islamic State to find a way to work together with Syria or Russia. The very raison d'être of the Islamic State is to defeat the Syrian government and their helpers the Russians. In the same way, the very raison d'être of the “CTA” is to defeat the Chinese government, and apart from this it serves no other purpose.

Therefore, the only sensible choice for exiled Tibetans is to cut all their connections with the evil dalie, with the “CTA”, and with Western-sponsored terrorism in general, and to return to their motherland in order to protect their tradition, their language, their culture, and their religion, enjoying Buddhist-friendly China's peace and prosperity.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2017, 06:54:29 PM »
Yes, at the moment India can say their position remain unchanged, but how long can they hold? Is like someone who is having financial problem telling you that you don't have to worry for your daily expenses in the future, he will pay for all your meals. But, how long can it hold? One so called government who has their own country, don't want to go back to their country but come out telling people how poor they are, how pity they are and asking for financial support. I don't know what is in India's government mind, to me, I will be asking CTA "Hey, your country is forking out 30 billion yuen to help your people, what are u waiting for? Still asking for money from other countries? Go back to your country!" Sorry for I will think like that. This is a normal reaction. 1) When a country is facing limited resources for their own people, how long they can keep you? 2) Since everyone knows that you belong to a strong and growing country, why do you still come out begging for money?
CTA, I don't know how thick is your face, or maybe you are still enjoying getting money from the west and putting it in your own pocket. Please stop being a runaway from home and act like a beggar, but talk to your home country and go back to your own country!

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2017, 03:17:07 PM »
It is time for CTA to wake up from their dream. What were they thinking? Now even the India government said that Tibet is part of China. Meaning to say it is time for them to be friends with China and have good relationships with China so that the Tibetans in exile can go back to Tibet. They cannot be forever living like a refugee in India and hoping that India will help them forever. Every country has their ups and downs too. So, it is time for the Tibetans in exile to wake up and do something before it is too late.

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2017, 08:29:00 PM »
Wow, even their biggest supporter who gave land for the "refugees" of Tibet to stay for 100 years and gave them power of governance within these enclaves, is stepping up in their recognition of Tibet being a part of China. I guess the goodwill has been outlived and India finds China an attractive partner. After 60 years of kindness, India has only received "nothing" in return. On the contrary, India is always expected to defend CTA's blunders  ie. the recent promise to help Mongolia out of their debt and India ended up having to contribute towards this. And India missing out on ludicrous commercial opportunity with China ie. the billion dollar investment on construction of an inland rail from China to a new port which originally was to be in India but had since been diverted to Pakistan. Besides being a sycophant on sponsors' kindness who donates millions annually for close to 60 years, CTA has nothing to show for their generosity which was meant to help their people to learn and be self sufficient, able to raise their living standards. To add to the insult, this relevant question was asked in another article by Tenzin....why have the Tibetans in Exile not chosen to be Indian citizens but instead welcome citizenships in United States, England, Italy, Switzerland, Japan, etc... Is India, their kindest sponsor, not worthy of them?

In Michaela's comment that during Sikyong's visit in Brisbane, he had spoken to some mainland Chinese students about China's revolution period where atrocities were done in Tibet.. I would like to ask which country does not have her dark sides? Even Tibet had terrible historical periods, like the Ministers of 5th Dalai Lama murdering the high attained Lama, Tulku Dragpa Gyeltsen. Or how about the bloody skinning of Methar to unlawly seize the wealth of a rich monastery? Or the feudal system where the people served as serfs to the few higher echelon? I guess nothing has evolved much with CTA ever willing to do anything to satisfy their greed and ego. Not even when their people had waited 60 years to return to their homes in Tibet. CTA is not willing to humble themselves to stop their propaganda against China or against their own people who are segregated by the illogical ban on Dorje Shugden and his 400 year old authentic practice. Such arrogance to expect the sponsors to jump in to help each time they "appeal" for more funds. No wonder India is growing tired of their antics at her expense.

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2017, 03:21:11 PM »
If CTA kept on being like a cow skin lantern, chances of improving their leadership are close to minus zero.  Tibet is part of China all the while, and their so called government kept seeking fund from other countries for support. By right now, China is one of the rich and powerful country who could volunteering giving financial support if there are in need. Tibet should be grateful with this privilege.

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Re: India Acknowledges that Tibet is Part of China
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 12:17:48 AM »
I think it's okay for the CTA to fight for their homeland and their freedom.e even though they are not good at it. However, if they reallu fighting for freedom then why segregate Tibetan who practice Dorje Shugden? Strange? Yes...!

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 01:01:15 AM »
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I think it's okay for the CTA to fight for their homeland and their freedom

Except that they are not fighting for any homeland or freedom, but merely for the painfully missed feudal privileges of a caste of disgruntled ex-slave owners, led by the transvestite monk, the evil dalie.