Dalai Lama and China: A Disturbing Trend

[icy]

What the Dalai Lama and CTA do is indeed “pot calling kettle black” in their oppression and ostracising of Shugden practitioners. They delight at and are only good in throwing eggs at the Great Wall. They have no self-conscience and do not believe in karma but encourage Tibetans to self-immolate and making them martyrs.

Their hypocrisy is utterly appalling. What right does the Dalai Lama has to call upon China to turn into a mainstream democracy when their own democratic governance is a faux, an import of the theocratic rule from ancient Tibet? How can he cast a religious apartheid on his own countrymen and make them suffer emotionally and physically? This religious discrimination has also spread to other nations where there are millions of Shugden practitioners since the Gelug tradition is a mainstream practice worldwide.

What had happened to the compassion of the Dalai Lama who is Chenrezig? The values of human rights which the Dalai Lama so strongly advocates on the world platform simply cannot correlate to what he is implementing at home. The ban has to be revoked NOW! Millions of people cannot go on suffering for 18 long years because of one man, the Dalai Lama.







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[kris]

Thank you Solomon for such brilliant article. You have said what was on my mind for so long, and I will definitely use your words to share out on my Facebook and other social media so that more people will know about this issue.

If CTA really wants to show the world they deserve a country, they should start behaving like a grown up and be fair to all citizens. The prime minister Lobsang Sangyal despite graduate from Harvard, failed to impart any bit of democracy knowledge to his colleagues and still treat their citizen as in the 1950s.

If you don’t like what the Chinese government did to you in 1959, then why should you do the same to Dorje Shugden practitioners? Is this how Buddhists behave? Is this Buddhist teachings? Is this the level of practice/attainments of HH Dalai Lama’s students?

I must also mention that special thanks and credits must be given to ISC for staging the peaceful protests. It brought tears to my eye to hear that many of the protestors have been protesting since 1996, and still tirelessly stand up for the rights to religious freedom.

[diamond girl]

If we are ignorant and have no knowledge at all about this Ban, then this letter would be all fine and dandy. BUT there IS a BAN and many have been killed because of this ban and people are still tortured and killing/killed due to this Ban. Therefore, as much as I can appreciate this letter from HHDL, I cannot help but feel the deep hypocrisy.

Then again, in this website we can learn possibly about the true and bigger intentions of the Ban and HHDL's motivation for the controversy... is there a bigger picture? Is the Ban a way to make this practice grow even more? Does controversy create more awareness than sweet mumbles?

[diamond girl]

Read this forum thread previously posted... It shares some questions I have...

http://www.dorjeshugden.com/forum/index.php?topic=4764.0

[lotus1]

Agreed with you diamond girl.
If we do not know about the ban, this letter sounds like a very good advice. However, when we know about the ban, to me, this letter is so hypocrite.
Previously I feel sympathize to the Tibetan people who want to have their freedom. However, when I know what CTA has been doing to their own people, how CTA has been causing harm to Dorje Shugden practitioners and even high lamas, I do not think CTA is democracy or even qualified to form a government. They are not even qualified to be called as “Buddhists” as they are not practicing the core Buddhism values of compassion and peace.
They are all hypocrites.
I sincerely request His Holiness Dalai Lama and CTA will lift the ban and be fair to all their people. Be democratic and do not cause any more harm to the Dorje Shugden practitioners. With folded hand.

[Kim Hyun Jae]

In the letter, HH the Dalai Lama emphasized freedom, democracy and human rights of a free and dynamic society.

Sad to say and to repeat this again, the CTA government does not practice what they preach. Please give back the freedom to all practitioners to practice Dorje Shugden freely, unobstructed allowing for true democracy. LIFT up the BAN now!

You will not have any more open public protests whenever HH the Dalai Lama shows up, no more storming into DS practicing monastery by lay people, no more immolation, End of story!

 

[Dondrup Shugden]

The letter from DL is a total disbelief, there is so much contradiction to what is being conveyed to the Chinese and to what is happening within the governance of the Tibetan people by DL and CTA.  From this letter it looks like DL is encouraging Chinese people to seek freedom and democracy to their rights as people. 

Then how come the restriction and ban on DS lineage?

Is this another form of ''divide and rule'' creating confusion and disharmony in China?  This is reflective of what is happening to Tibetans all over the world.  The divide created for the DS worshippers, to justify torture and discrimination by CTA.

Let the tenets of compassion prevail in CTA and DL and grant the DS worshippers the freedom to practice.  If harm would come to them or the DL as predicted, let there be a simple freedom of choice.  Do not suppress DS, if there is to be a rivalry between DS and DL, why not let it suffice and see what will happen. 

As DL is the reincarnation of Chenrizig, then there should be no rivalry but complimentary to benefit all Buddhists.

[DharmaSpace]

The Tibetans are showing to be not the kind of material that fits into modern society, as even if the country is returned back to them they would not know what to do with it.

During some of the demonstrations when the ISC demonstrates and says the Dalai Lama is not telling the truth, instead of answering with logic or debating, they shout, spit and let out profanities like there was no tomorrow. Are these the citizens of the internet age? They should make their statement on why they think Dorje Shugden should not be practiced, why is Dorje Shugden is a spirit ? Instead they shout long live the Dalai Lama, yeah some of us still love the Dalai Lama and we are not demonstrating and doing Dorje Shugden practice to harm the Dalai Lama or want any harm to the Dalai Lama.

On top of that, the current Dalai Lama is one of the longest lived one amongst the 14 Dalai Lamas, so to say Dorje Shugden shortens Dalai Lama’s life is truly a lie. The Tibetans has to go beyond folding their hands and really understand issues and the dharma before they react or retort.

For the CTA to pin the blame on Dorje Shugden practitioners for not winning their freedom from China is the most absurd accusation anyone can utter. For a Harvard man like Lobsang Sangay to say or agree with it, well it kind of borders on insanity to consider such statements to have even a fraction of truth in them. If the leadership of Tibetan government in exile entertains absurd notions, what happens when messages reach the grassroots? Violence, occupation of Domo Geshe ladrang, hurting Trijang Rinpoche’s Changtso, all these are results of not have the right view about the situation and the issues. As long as the Tibetans grasp of reality and issues is not based on the truth, they will never be ready to get Tibet back at all.

[fruven]

How can CTA call themselves to be democratic when there is no freedom to practice a religion freely? The Chinese government is not a democratic country, of course, they can assert the right to ban any religion freedom that is harmful to their government. A democratic country can exercise rights to stop groups which acted in harmful ways to others. However singling out a group from all form of human rights is definitely not a mindset of a democratic ruling mentality which the CTA is doing it now. Dorje Shugden practitioner has no access to public health, and education. They are not allowed to travel outside of the exiled community.

[eyesoftara]

It is one thing to support someone else's detractors and something else to ignore you own detractors. While The Dalai Lama continue to support the "pro-democracy" supporters of China, we must realise much has happened to China since then. People in China actually has more freedom than the Tibetans in India. Of course, generally, the Chinese is far more advance, richer and open. Their policies on freedom of religion albeit very cautious are actually more open then of the CTA and HHDL. So much for a "spiritually" inclined government. Shame on you.

[yontenjamyang]

Perhaps the Dalai Lama is signaling that then same for the CTA. Dr Lobsang Sangay, please take heed. Please give the Tibetan in exile more freedom and democracy; in their lives, whether in mundane activities or in spirituality. if the Dalai Lama wants the Chinese government to give the Chinese more freedom, sure He would want the same foe Tibetans.
So the CTA take heed and give Tibetans more freedom of practice. Lift the ban.

[prodorjeshugden]

It is really don't get how the Dalai Lama can talk about peace and harmony but cause conflict and disharmony behind the scenes. For more than a decade people who practiced Dorje Shugden suffered under the cold and dark hands of the Dalai Lama and the CTA, the people were powerless, they were ostracized and barred from going to most public places in some rarer cases they were beaten and given death threats.
The most surprising thing is that the Dalai Lama who is called the peace ambassador is the person behind the suffering of the thousands of Dorje Shugden people, he does not deserve that title because the things that he does behind his back is not peaceful or harmonious.

I really hope that the Dalai Lama and the CTA can bring down the ban in soon and end the suffering of the thousands of Dorje Shugden practitioners instantly.