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Ringo Starr

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Hot News: HHDL - We would happily join or remain in the PRC
« on: September 19, 2016, 04:01:49 PM »
HH Dalai Lama was very recently at the meeting of the Council of Europe.

His press conference contains many gems. (see video link)

At 14:40 he says "We would happily join or remain in the People's Republic of China" and then goes on to say that today there are 400 million Buddhists in China and many of them are showing interest in Tibetan Buddhism.

I find this a very fresh, real and progressive development.

May the Dharma spread in the ten directions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNhv42n0pKk

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Re: Hot News: HHDL - We would happily join or remain in the PRC
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 06:19:31 PM »
Dear Ringgo Star

Thank you for the exciting news about the Dalai Lama would like to be part of China. Realistically, there is no way that the Tibetans in exile will be able to gain their independence since China has grown so strong since 1959.

I hope the Dalai Lama made this clear to his followers so they can stop the horrible self immolation and other defiance that will only irritate China further and prevent peace and further negotiation

May the peace prevail between China and the Dalai Lama

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 10:10:36 PM »
Thank you Ringo Starr for sharing such rejoicing news. It is a step forward to the Dalai Lama to make such a statement. As Micheala mentioned, China has grown in strength politically and commercially and will never consider ceding Tibet even if under autonomous conditions. However, I could see China welcoming the Dalai Lama if there are not disturbing political inference in his return as a citizen of China/Tibet. With his recent statement that "King" Dorje Shugden does not harm his life nor the Tibetan Freedom cause, the Dalai Lama is starting to speak up against the damaging actions against the Shugden practitioners. May this welcoming news quickly spread to CTA and Anti-Shugdens for them to stop their persecution of Shugden practitioners and disparagement of China. Otherwise they will be acting against the wishes of their "King", the Dalai Lama. I must say CTA had been awfully silent lately regarding the Shugden issue but I find that more Western "practitioners" who are not well versed stepping up in their attacks on Shugdenpas. Is it the underhanded actions by CTA as their last ditch attempt?

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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2016, 03:46:51 AM »
Recently, the Dalai Lama was seen to have commented that Dorje Shugden does not harm his life and that he has put Dorje Shugden in a position to receive his compassion.

And, now this piece of gem. Does this mean that they will not be making the Dorje Shugden practitioners a scapegoat for the CTA's inability to get China to the negotiation table? CTA has been encouraging violence and threats against Dorje Shugden practitioners as a smoke screen against their inept actions to free Tibet.

Hopefully, the CTA and the followers of the Dalai Lama will stop all this persecution and violence/threats of violence from here on.

Thanks Ringo Starr for this piece of news.

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2016, 01:16:06 PM »
Dear Ringo, it is refreshing to hear such statements from HHDL. I pray the day would be soon that His Holiness would tell his Government to stop inciting hatred and violence towards the Shugden practitioners. Before they (the Tibetans) can 'happily join or remain in the People's Republic of China ' they must first unite among Tibetans.

 Why attract the 400 million people in China who is interested in Tibetan Buddhism when the CTA is pushing away and ostracizing the numbers of existing Tibetans who is already practicing Tibetan Buddhism. Please lift the ban on Dorje Shugden very soon.

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2016, 03:23:12 PM »
It really is quite an interesting statement from the Dalai Lama, although whether it will translate to any tangible efforts towards resolving the Sino-Tibetan conflict remains to be seen. With China, peace and order has always been their priority. So, if CTA is serious about moving towards a real compromise with China to resolve this issue, CTA should start by ceasing to perpetuate the segregation and disharmony within Tibetans with the Dorje Shugden ban.

By removing the ban, it can serve to remove one of the major stumbling blocks. It actually quells China’s suspicion of the Dalai Lama as a dangerous separatist intending to trigger unrest in China by manipulating the Tibetan’s devotion to him as means to force China’s hand.

Further, in the past, CTA has given China every excuse to be vary of CTA’s sincerity in this matter given that CTA kept disparaging China with the Dorje Shugden controversy whilst purportedly trying to negotiate with them. It doesn’t take a genius to know that it would be hard to believe in having good faith negotiations when in the midst of negotiation, you take every opportunity to disparage the other party. Take for example, calling Dorje Shugden practitioners as traitors working for the big bad enemy China who is destroying Tibet or painting China in a very bad light in the eyes of the world really doesn’t help further any negotiations.

Since CTA always professes to give effect to Dalai Lama’s intention, hopefully CTA can back up their words now with appropriate actions taking cue from the Dalai Lama’s recent statement. Of course, it would be ideal if His Holiness would expressly tell CTA to give religious freedom to Dorje Shugden practitioners and stop their persecutions. With the statement being left vague, it would hardly be surprising should CTA opts to manipulate the situation to serve CTA's interest (instead of really giving effect to Dalai Lama's intention).

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2016, 11:32:23 PM »
The news from H.H. Dalai Lama is great. It matches back to what he recently said that Dorje Shugden not harming his health nor harming the Tibetan cause. I really hope that with these it shows that the ban is being lifted soon.

However, what I hope is that the CTA will follow the advices of H.H. Dalai Lama and leave Dorje Shugden practitioners alone. Letting them integrate back into the Tibetan community letting the rest of the Tibetan community that are not Dorje Shudgen practitioners know what the Dalai Lama has said and support that fully. Not go out of the way to educate and unite non Dorje Shugden practitioners to get together to go against Dorje Shugden practitioners.

With what H.H. said about joining back China it is just a great relieve as it shows that He has the far sight to know that it will only benefit the Tibetans in the long ran. So that the Tibetans will once again have their glory back and have their culture preserved.

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 07:19:42 AM »
Thank you, Ringo Starr, for sharing this wonderful news.

May the CTA cease the abuse and discrimination towards Dorje Shugden practitioners and may there be peace between the Dalai Lama and China.