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psylotripitaka

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The new Four Point Request to DL from ISC
« on: September 02, 2015, 04:06:38 PM »
The previous 4 point request from the ISC presented to the DL have been updated.

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Re: The new Four Point Request to DL from ISC
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2015, 04:51:21 PM »
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The revised four points sound pretty reasonable to me...


"The ISC is asking the Dalai Lama to write to the Tibetan communities throughout the world informing them of the following four points:

1) That both individuals and communities should completely stop all discrimination against the practice of Shugden and its practitioners;

2) That they should maintain harmonious relationships with Shugden practitioners;

3) That they should never try to harm Shugden practitioners either directly or indirectly;

4) That they should solve this present problem by practically applying the above three points.

All the Dalai Lama needs to do is to send one single letter containing
the above four points to all Tibetan communities.

As a result of this all the present problems and disharmony will automatically be solved."

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Re: The new Four Point Request to DL from ISC
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2015, 06:11:11 PM »
Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

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Re: The new Four Point Request to DL from ISC
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2015, 10:41:18 AM »
I fully agree that all these can be resolved by just ONE simple letter from HH Dalai Lama. If you read the "demands" carefully, the demands are just basic human rights, and these demands are what HH Dalai Lama always talk about when He goes onto the world tour to spread Dharma teaching: being kind to all and without judgement.

So, is it so difficult for HH Dalai Lama to comply what He preaches?

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Re: The new Four Point Request to DL from ISC
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 05:33:08 AM »
I don't agree with these 4 points being that useful.  They are a good start; but we need something more concrete--- these basically let the Dalai Lama off the hook without ending the ban.  He needs to request in writing the ban to end--- this doesn't do it--- it is incomplete and perhaps we could ask more realized beings to help write these :)

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Re: The new Four Point Request to DL from ISC
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2015, 07:25:18 PM »
Blueupali,

 ;) first of all, better not to be presumptuous about the authors of the new list, it was actually written by realized beings.

Secondly, if you think more deeply about the implications of these, you will see that they seem a bit more appropriate for now. Although it is ideal the ban were lifted completely, these new requests appear to accept that although the DL can leave the ban in place with respect to his own students, that more importantly is getting him to stop the active persecution of Shugden practitioners. In the previous four, it seemed to me that the idea of monks being able to return to their monastery was a disaster waiting to happen due to existing animosity within those situations. They have their own monasteries now anyways, so better to focus on stopping the active persecution. We've been trying to get him to lift the ban for a very long time and it has simply become more entrenched, so rather than keep hitting from that angle, this is a new approach that will hopefully be accepted as reasonable.