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Moscow warns Dalai Lama: ‘No politics’
« on: August 30, 2014, 06:36:36 AM »
Moscow distrust the Dalai Lama for he is a politician in the disguise of a peaceful monk, don't you think so? 

Dalai Lama's continuous assertions of Dorje Shugden as a demon to scrapegoat his political failure since 1996 have clearly shown that he has not fully distanced himself from politics.  Moscow is apprehensive of the 'wolf in sheep's clothing'.  His mask is definitely slipping.  Moscow is afraid the Tibetan leadership will wage psychological warfare on the global Buddhist family aided by their powerful allies to create unrest.



The Dalai Lama "must fully distance himself from politics" if he wants to visit Russia, Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov has said, a stance echoing China's position while appeasing Buddhists at home.
Lavrov made the remarks while addressing a question at the All-Russia Youth Forum Seliger-2014 on Wednesday.

According to the official Sina Weibo account of the Russian Embassy in China, Lavrov said Moscow has engaged in talks with leaders of the Republic of Kalmykia, where half the population believe in Tibetan Buddhism, over the issue.

"If it is a pastoral visit, the pastor should definitely withdraw from political activities. Unfortunately, we believe this is not the case," he said.

China's foreign ministry on Thursday told the Global Times it has to gather related information before commenting on Lavrov's remarks. As of press time, the spokesperson's office had not replied to the inquiry.
Xu Zhitao, an official with the United Front Work Department of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, which handles the Tibet question, told the Global Times Thursday that Moscow's stance over the Dalai Lama visit is consistent with Beijing's position.

"The Dalai Lama has been engaged in political activities under the disguise of religion. During his overseas activities, he has never shunned away from political topics. However, Western politicians choose to turn a blind eye to his deeds," Xu said. "The Russian government respects the facts and holds an unambiguous stance over the question."

Xu added that he believes Moscow has its own standard to distinguish the boundary between political and religious activities.

"Moscow's stance over the Tibet question is becoming increasingly identical to that of Beijing's," Li Xing, a professor of Russian studies at Beijing Normal University, told the Global Times. "Against the backdrop of the Ukraine crisis, Sino-Russian ties become even closer, as Moscow now counts on Beijing's support on various fronts."

The last visit to Russia by the Dalai Lama was in 2004. Since then, Moscow has denied his visa, despite leaders from Kalmykia's attempts to bring him to the country.

Buddhism is the third-largest religion in Russia. In 2006, Kalmykia presented the Dalai Lama with the White Lotus Order, the republic's highest civilian honor.

Li said that, while reassuring China, Moscow also tried to strike a balance out of concerns for its Buddhist population. "Instead of rejecting the Dalai Lama's visit, it sets a prerequisite for him."
In 2012, Putin said Moscow was working on bringing the Dalai Lama to Russia.

In 2010, Lavrov once said Russia was ready to assist dialogue between Beijing and the Dalai Lama.
"Moscow did propose the dialogue, but we have repeatedly said that we contact the Dalai Lama under our established channels. Coming to the realization of our stance, Russia no longer makes such proposal," Xu said.
 
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/n/2014/0829/c90883-8776322.html?

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Re: Moscow warns Dalai Lama: ‘No politics’
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 10:20:05 AM »
For many life times, HH Dalai Lama is a figure of both spiritual and political. I think those days where the concept of democratic is not so developed, it is more acceptable for people HH Dalai Lama to resume the title of both spiritual and political.

But with the current development, and the education level of the general public, people would really like to leave politics out of spiritual. Personally I think it is a good idea to leave the politics out of spiritual because personally I am very disturbed with the political issues in the world.

Even HH Dalai Lama himself has said that He would let go of his political power to CTA, but look at what we have now? CTA is headed by someone who is received education in democratic environments and supposed to be very democratic with good governance, but look at what we have now? Or may be it is the incompetence of CTA which force HH Dalai to continue resume the political power?

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Re: Moscow warns Dalai Lama: ‘No politics’
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 04:11:21 PM »
http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/features/of-dorje-shugden-and-mongolia/

I read the above article and I believe it clearly shows how the nexus between the sangha and political power all began in Tibet with the Third Dalai Lama.

Is history repeating itself, this time with the "western world" giving legitimacy to H.H.? No wonder Russia and China will not allow. H.H. seems to be more politician than spiritual leader (which btw he is NOT).





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Re: Moscow warns Dalai Lama: ‘No politics’
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 04:38:12 PM »
Well, good luck to Moscow on this.... it's not like any of the rest of us have succeeded in getting the DL away from the politics--- everything he does is under guise of religion but most stuff politics
 1. pick fake Karmapa to dominate and divide Kagyus (so he can be in control)
 2. tell people to give up his root guru's practice (to prove loyalty to him instead of valid spiritual Gelugpa guide.... so he can control Gelugpas)
 3. Lie when convenient but use spiritual authority to make people believe him
 4. Re-write history to favor whatever he needs people to believe
 5. Initiate the masses into pseudo-samaya with him so they will do his bidding like donkeys

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Re: Moscow warns Dalai Lama: ‘No politics’
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 04:29:54 AM »
Well, good luck to Moscow on this.... it's not like any of the rest of us have succeeded in getting the DL away from the politics--- everything he does is under guise of religion but most stuff politics
 1. pick fake Karmapa to dominate and divide Kagyus (so he can be in control)
 2. tell people to give up his root guru's practice (to prove loyalty to him instead of valid spiritual Gelugpa guide.... so he can control Gelugpas)
 3. Lie when convenient but use spiritual authority to make people believe him
 4. Re-write history to favor whatever he needs people to believe
 5. Initiate the masses into pseudo-samaya with him so they will do his bidding like donkeys

Well said, this is a good summary of the false Dalai Lama's divisive actions.

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Re: Moscow warns Dalai Lama: ‘No politics’
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 02:23:12 AM »
Unfortunately politicians have the tendency of using whatever methods to gain power and control over others, religious matters, included. Using whatever people belief in for their own ends. The time has come for governments to move away from using any form of discrimination to sought power and control. There won't be peace if we keep holding to our own discrimination against others. Separation of religion from politics is the best course for us right now.