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Midakpa

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2014, 03:11:41 PM »
The protest in Hamburg was peaceful and well-organised. The protesters did not break any laws. It was a protest against a ban that is unlawful which has for many years caused a lot of suffering among the worshippers of Lord Dorje Shugden. In spite the hardship, the spirit of Shugden followers is strong and supporters are growing in numbers. The demonstrators are merely defending religious freedom. They deserve our moral support.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2014, 03:36:32 PM »
The time has come to lift the ban of Dorje Shugden. More and more people are aware of the truth and that's why they are protesting against HH Dalai Lama to lift the ban and give them the freedom to practice DS openly and freely without fear.
From the peaceful demonstrations we can see that the practitioners only wanted the ban to be lifted and to have religion freedom.








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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2014, 03:39:31 PM »
All the organized protests so far had been peaceful and harmless highlighting to Dalai Lama to lift the ban on DS. I cannot understand why the Dalai Lama still insist on not lifting the ban when it was so obvious that even Tibetans themselves are supporting the practice of DS.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2014, 04:28:29 PM »
This seems to be big and healthy group of demonstrators. I thank all the ISC for organizing this, and demonstrating, making a statement, keeping it peaceful and letting the world know there is an unjust ban being maintained by CTA and the Dalai Lama.
More and more of the world will get to know about the Dorje Shugden ban, wherever the Dalai  Lama travels.

I wonder does India allow demonstrations in its borders? Perhaps it is not safe to demonstrate in India.

Appreciate all the work ISC is doing to bring the world's attention to the Dorje Shugden ban.
 

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2014, 12:31:19 AM »
A heartfelt thanks to all of those demonstrators from around the world who spent their time in Hamburg, Germany this weekend trying to raise awareness about the Dalai Lama's ban against Wisdom Buddha, Dorje Shugden, a traditional protector practice of the Gelugpas. His discrimination has caused tremendous suffering to millions of people who have no voice to stand up for themselves. My thoughts are with you all the heroes and heroines!

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2014, 12:54:30 AM »
In this video, the cult of the Dalai Lama is apron-flickering to the demonstrators of the International Shugden Community protesting in Hamburg in their disgusting behaviour of hatred, anger and confusion. These cult members of Dalai Lama had just walked out from an audience with the Dalai Lama. Did they digest and apply any dharma teachings from the Dalai Lama? Aren't they an embarrassment to the Dalai Lama a world renowned peace icon and religious leader?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=851461328198108&set=vb.184800081530906&type=2&theater

Tenzin K

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2014, 03:59:37 AM »
People around the world no longer keep silent on the Lord Shugden ban!
Now where ever the Dalai Lama go the protestor will follow and the main intention is not to irritate the Dalai Lama but is to ask Dalai Lama to lift the unnecessary ban that have cause so much suffering for the Lord Shugden practitioners. Be it the monks or the layman, they have suffered tremendously, family and friend separation, violent attack, unable to go through normal life such as going to school and being discriminate by the government and non Shugden practitioners.

The peaceful protest shows how much devotion of the practitioners around the world and how can it be wrong as the practice has gone global and so many have so much faith with the protector, again how can it a spirit or cause harm to the Dalai Lama?
In fact the harmful group that being in action all the time towards Shugden practitioners is the CTA. So many cases and incident happened. The world should know and the world should together gather their voice to push the ban down for religious freedom!

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2014, 04:44:49 AM »
Enough is enough, please lift the ban CTA so that everyone will lead their normal live in peace and continue to practice freely in pursuing the Holy Dharma and not worrying about the safety of certain groups harming them. We already are experiencing so much sufferings since they ban have been imposed, mother and child, husband and wife, Guru and students, brother and sister. All the relationships mentioned are separated due to the ban.

The world currently is experiencing so much suffering and we do not need any more of this for the fact that we as a Buddhists should all be the 'ONE' to promote peace to the world. Stop harming each other already and be the 'ONE'.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2014, 08:00:16 AM »
Watch this latest round of demonstration by the International Shugden Community in Hamburg. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7p9wXNf11U

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2014, 09:53:48 PM »
Must watch!!!  "Dalai lama Stop Lying! Hamburg Germany on YouTube.  Dalai Lama is lying through his teeth!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1d2ImUbH1g

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2014, 11:55:00 PM »
In a recent dialogue about this video questioning Lhamo Dondrub about his Guru devotion, someone remarked about making him uneasy and roasting him every chance we get. I agree in a way, but believe that one main objective in this would be to get his audience to also start to question him, and we do not open peoples minds by insulting someone they adore, the psychology generally does't work out that way. When he says 'you only have one side of the story' his audience is like, 'yeah, you only have one side of the story' and so we've already lost the debate and opportunity!

Rather, I feel it would have been much more productive to use such an opportunity to cite some abuses then ask him to disprove the evidence of abuse. Nobody in there cares about the arguments supporting Dorje Shugden as a Buddha or valid lineage nor do they typically seem to give a shit about Dondrub's Guru devotion. The audience will more likely take a reasonable question into consideration if the abuse is presented directly.

While it is important to validate the Protector and practice, the most immediate thing is to bring attention to how a difference of opinion is not a valid reason to abuse people, that there is undeniable evidence of abuse, and 'please will you give reasons disproving this'.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2014, 12:14:17 AM »
Or, how about changing the signs to read "Dalai Lama, prove our evidence wrong"

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2014, 05:00:37 AM »
The signs need to keep saying, "Stop lying."  Prove our evidence wrong, is not helpful because most people don't know what our evidence is.  If we say stop lying, then maybe they want to know what's he lying about.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 05:52:50 AM »

We must give our support to the Dorje Shugden Tibetan Youth Congress.  These youths brave rain and shine and CTA to protest for religious freedom.


https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dorje-Shugden-Tibetan-Youth-Congress/1522840867928424

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 07:17:53 AM »
This is the first time I have seen Tibetan youths getting involved in this protest.

Wonderful there are young Tibetans who learn about the Dorje Shugden story and lineage and wants to protect it from being harmed and to preserve it for future generations. Make Dorje Shugden heard wherever the Dalai lama goes.

In most corporate companies, if the head of the company gets such bad rep, they will fire the PR people. Th PR people are CTA of course. For not advising the Dalai Lama correctly, more and more people will know of the Dorje Shudgen discrimination, and this is all CTA"s faults, at the rate the Dalai Lama's reputation is being tarnished, CTA the whole cabinet should have been fired a few rounds over.  Dorje Shugden can only be good for the Tibetans in exile or otherwise, and if the CTA is clever, lifting the ban on Dorje Shugden they will suddenly find their 'enemies' have turned to friends. Then even better chances of getting some freedom for the Tibetans and the Tibetan nation. CTA is so short sighted.