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Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« on: August 22, 2014, 10:52:20 PM »
A warm up welcome demonstration outside the Dalai lama's hotel upon his arrival in Germany. @ Dammtor Train Station, Hamburg, Germany.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx-3-ozfpLA&list=UUNCM1cy2mdcZLcUIIyMzbbQ

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2014, 10:57:33 PM »
At the Hamburg demonstration by the International Shugden Committee, there is a nice message:


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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 08:28:32 AM »
More and more people stand up to speak what is truly from their heart. I believe they don't have any bad intention. All they want are just religious freedom and ask for respect to their Shugden practice. This is just a simple request. Whoever have any motive to implement the ban on Shugden practice whether for politics issues or anything else but now is the time to make a stop to it. Sooner or later people will aware of the truth. Before more defamation is made, now is the time to lift the ban. Religious freedom is a basic human rights for everybody.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 12:11:58 PM »


There are many Tibetans demonstrating against the Dalai Lama at Hamburg for religious freedom:




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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 04:42:14 PM »
I am rejoicing so much to see these Tibetans being able to make their voice hear.  Dalai Lama and CTA leave them alone and lift the ban already!

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 04:30:39 AM »
The lamrim says that one's lama, one's guru is higher than all Buddhas.

Why?
Because he is one's guru, the Buddha in action towards which the student has created karmic access to. Because of the physical connection, because of the karmic connection, because of the samaya, one's guru is more important to THAT student than all the Buddhas.

Thus, if one's guru practices Dorje Shugden and propitiates Dorje Shugden, the student that would go against his teacher, his guru, would make his guru wrong.
It is like saying: "my guru was/is wrong, I know better".

Then , in all logic, if one makes his guru wrong, then one makes all Buddhas wrong.
If one knows better than all Buddhas, then one needs no Buddha, one states himself higher, more knowledgeable, more reliable than the collection of all enlightened beings.
Also, in doing so, one severed his connection to a lineage and is no more reliable to teach.

Now, isn't it what the Dalai Lama has done?
Why?

icy

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 05:11:43 AM »
Dalai Lama is causing suffering and disharmony with the illegal ban since 1996 on Dorje Shugden, a 350-year old main stream practice of the Gelug tradition of Tibetan Buddhism. It is utterly unbelievable a world renowned man of peace would impose this illegal ban and create immense turmoil and havoc in the Tibetan society which has spread around the globe. Hence, wherever the Dalai Lama turns up in the West there are peaceful protests and demonstrations to remind him to lift the ban. If you value religious freedom, please join us to request the Dalai Lama to lift the ban.


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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 07:06:28 AM »
The protests being held wherever the Dalai Lama goes is valid because the Dalai Lama is oppressing the freedom of religious practice amongst his people. Dorje Shugden practitioners could not practice freely because they are discriminated against in their own society.

The image that the Dalai Lam projects out to the world is peace loving and compassion, but is this happening in the Tibetan communities? I doubt so because we see signs being put up at shops stopping Dorje Shugden practitioners from entering and school going children are also denied of education.

Can't the world see through his mask yet?

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 08:49:18 AM »
The protests being held wherever the Dalai Lama goes is valid because the Dalai Lama is oppressing the freedom of religious practice amongst his people.

The protest is definitely VALID. This ban has caused so much suffering amongst their own Tibetans. Where is the religious and human rights for this. So much oppression and lies has been given out by the CTA over the past few years that it has gone from bad to worst. Stop discriminating the Shugden practitioners.

Where is the religious rights or even human rights for these. If it was pertaining other matters in the world, the human right activist will clamp down hard on what CTA is doing. Therefore, the more protest we have, the more awareness we bring, there is no where CTA can hide.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 08:55:38 AM »
Looks like these protests against His Holiness the Dalai Lama have become an unceasing feature at all the cities around the world that His Holiness went. I see this as a powerful way to present Dorje Shugden to the whole wide world and from there, the plights of those Shugden believers ostracized by the CTA are highlighted to the eyes of many.
I am praying very hard this ban would be lifted soonest so that all those affected would be able to practice their religion freely and equally. I am very sure the emanation of Chenrezig is so full of compassion to swiftly relieve the sufferings of all beings.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2014, 11:09:12 AM »
Wherever the Dalai Lama went, there were protests, peaceful protests unlike those menacing gestures and shouts of profanities from the anti Shugden supporters. If only the Dalai Lama would remove the ban then all the efforts and money spent on both sides could be wisely used to further dharma teachings and for the propagation of dharma. Not to mention the physical, emotional and mental suffering of those innocent people and school going children would be alleviated and be gone. Why, Dalai Lama? Why do you persist on the ban and not use the wasted resources for the spread of dharma?

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2014, 12:18:24 PM »
Please leave the ban CTA to save the Dalai Lama's face. The ban is more well-known to the world and it is not within the Tibetan anymore. Please see it clearly CTA.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2014, 01:15:13 PM »
So even after being threatened with the 'hit list' by the CTA, the International Shugden Committee has consistently maintained a peaceful stance. It continues  to hold peaceful protests , calling for religious freedom, as the Dalai Lama visits Germany. Furthermore, instead of a tit for tat reaction to the hit list,
it has responded peacefully by getting its legal representative to write to each representative of the Tibetan government, informing them that they will be held responsible for any harm that comes to Shugden Buddhists.

This is in sharp contrast to the anti -Shugdenists and Dalai Lama loyalists, who use threats and violence in response to peaceful protests and demonstrations.

 Peace and harmony is the way to go and , of course the lifting of the ban.



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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2014, 01:41:21 PM »
The demonstration at Hamburg is getting more interesting with new friends doing the dance to the rhythm and rhyme of the chant of the protest.

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Re: Protest Against Dalai Lama: Hamburg, 22nd August 2014
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2014, 01:59:59 PM »
Peaceful protests are held everywhere where ever the Dalai Lama went. DS practitioners do not use threats or violence to request the Dalai Lama to lift the ban but use peaceful methods to voice their rights to religious freedom. If the Dalai Lama is compassionate as he claimed to be, he should allow everyone the rights to religious freedom.