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DharmaSpace

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PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
Phayul[Wednesday, September 21, 2016 19:33]
By Tenzin Dharpo

The Tibetan Parliament in exile observes a minute's silence in memory of the Tibetans who were died in Tibet, on the opening day of the ongoing parliamentary session in Dharamshala. Sept 19, 2017. Phayul photo- Kunsang Gashon
The Tibetan Parliament in exile observes a minute's silence in memory of the Tibetans who were died in Tibet, on the opening day of the ongoing parliamentary session in Dharamshala. Sept 19, 2017. Phayul photo- Kunsang Gashon
DHARAMSHALA, Sept 21: The second day of the ongoing parliamentary session of the 16th TPiE here saw several members of the parliament question the incumbent Sikyong Lobsang Sangay and his cabinet’s progress on the front of Sino-Tibetan dialogue which remains the rudimentary phase in realizing a solution between the two sides, in line with the ‘Middle Way Approach’, the official stand of the Dharamshala based Central Tibetan Administration.

Harvard educated Sangay today reiterated that he is prepared and hopes that the Tibet-China issue will be resolved in the not so distant future through dialogue although the reaction and cooperation from the other side will play a significant role in realizing that.

Members of the Parliament including Serta Tsultrim raised the question if the Sikyong’s second term in the office will usher in more encouraging developments in the aspect of communication with the Chinese leadership and that despite the stagnancy, what steps in the background had been taken.

Former envoy of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, Kelsang Gyaltsen who stepped down from the role in 2012 in a recent interview, questioned whether efforts to “push in any conceivable ways towards dialogue” is being made by the Tibetan leadership and that the current approach from the Tibetan side is seemingly limited to making public statements in readiness for talks with China. “My impression is that since 2010, since the last round of the meeting, our policy has been more or less of a “wait-and-see” approach. To watch how the new leadership in China performs, what the thinking and the policies of the new Chinese leadership are,” Gyaltsen told Tibetsun.

Dr. Sangay who assumed his second term at the helm of the Central Tibetan Administration earlier this year responded that he continues to strive towards a line of communication between Beijing in Dharamshala. He said, “We (Kashag) continue to move forward with a plan and have received support especially when US President Barack Obama urged Xi Jinping to have dialogue with the Dalai Lama at a joint press conference at the White office’s rose garden last year.” Sangay however added that the Chinese reaction will also determine the success of a potential communication.

The relation between the Tibetan set up in exile and the Chinese government has stalled since 2010 after nine rounds of talk between the two sides.

In April 2015, China published a ‘White Paper’ where they rejected CTA’s ‘Middle Way Policy’ for Tibet’s autonomy.

Internationally, declarations, resolutions and motions of support for the Middle Way Approach have been passed in parliaments in the U.S. European Union, France, Italy, Japan, Australia, Brazil and Luxembourg with support from others such as India, Britain and Germany.

It is good that the PM of the CTA, is being questioned. None of their measures are worked and they are not making an iota of progress to better the Tibetans or further any form of negotiations with the Chinese. It is a deadend for the CTA trying to negotiate with the Chinese.  It will remain so for for a long time and  I believe probably until the end of the CTA.

I do think the CTA do not know anything about problem solving at all, if they did then they would not keep trying to flog the dead horse. Their current methodology does not work at all in trying to negotiate with the Chinese. 

I am afraid, CTA will keep on reporting the same tripe for the next few years until the CTA is no more also, sad but thats the fact of the matter. 

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2017, 04:13:35 PM »
I am just wondering what is the "Middle Way Approach"?  Why "Middle Way Approach"? How is Lobsang Sangay going to answer to his people? What is the CTA going to do for the benefit of their people? If CTA is really working towards the benefit of their people, then they should have fight for it for a long time already and not now when everybody's eyes are on them.

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 03:53:35 AM »
Dialogue? Middle Way?

He talks about it often but his actions do not match his words. Maybe that's why he is being questioned about effort to push for dialogue with China.

In the meantime, this news article quoted is from 2016. Since then, all he ever schemed was to rename himself as "President" while continuing to be an irritant to China by for example continuing to sleep with the ultra right-wing nationalist Nippon Kaigi in Japan.

The other arsenal he uses to damn China is the Dorje Shugden issue which he has conveniently turned into a us vs. them (commies) thing.

And just yesterday, "President" Sangay went all the way to Ladakh's Pangong Lake to make prayers and to further irk China who has a border dispute with India in this area. So much for wanting dialogue.

The average Tibetan better recall this popular saying, "When the southern clouds go northwards, (Uncle Donpa) prays for rain". Don't be fooled.

See:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/tibets-government-in-exile-holds-rituals-in-ladakh-on-eve-of-dalai-lamas-birthday/articleshow/59519775.cms




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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/tibets-government-in-exile-holds-rituals-in-ladakh-on-eve-of-dalai-lamas-birthday/articleshow/59519775.cms

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 09:31:35 AM »
Be realistic, Belinda Mae, "President" Sangay never answers to the people.  If he even had the conscience to see the results of his first term of stagnation of the whole Tibetan issue he would not have the audacity to stand for election for second term.

Yes, China can be difficult to negotiate with, as a new world power and having said the "Middle Way" is not acceptable, is the CTA not capable of thinking a more palatable program or theme to open the door for dialogue.  Or it is never the intention for CTA to have dialogue.

Maybe that is the way it is to be, for CTA to become redundant. Redundancy erupts from lack of ideas. 


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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 10:24:03 PM »
Yes Dondrup Shugden, Tibetans know what the problem is, but they don't seem to be working towards resuming the Sino-Tibetan dialogue. Just like what DharmaSpace posted, their “wait-and-see” approach will not bring them anywhere.

Instead of trying to work with China, the Tibetan leadership can go around the world to appeal to foreign leaders, but ultimately the party that has the say is China. So why not work with China directly?

Appealing and getting the Subcommittee on Human Rights of the European Parliament (DROI) to call on the Chinese government for the resumption of the Sino-Tibetan dialogue is not good enough. China is not impressed, especially not after the flag incident at Ladakh's Pangong Lake.

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2017, 12:00:48 AM »
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So why not work with China directly?

Because the CTA exists in order to be in conflict with China. If it would work with China, it would lose its very raison d'être and disappear. Therefore, it is unrealistic to expect the CTA to ever work with China. All this talk of “umaylam” is just smokescreen to deceive the naive.

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2017, 11:45:15 AM »
You would think that as the secular leader of the Tibetans he would not need to be questioned on something so important to the Tibetan people. Shouldn't he be the one who is initiating dialogue and telling others of that he is planning. I'm mean, this issue is SO important to the Tibetan people, it is one of the reasons they tout to the world in order to raise funds after all.

People in the past have been sympathetic to the Tibetans purely because they say they are fighting for their country again. They say they have lost their country, and are trying to gain it back through the 'middle way' approach. So... people feel sorry for them and give them money to help their cause. But the so-called 'president' of the exiled government, doesn't even do anything to further this goal. No meaningful dialogue has been initiated with China. No progress has been made. In fact Tibetans are becoming more and more fed up with their government, and turning to India for citizenship or migrating abroad. Even the queues at the Chinese Embassy are filled with Tibetans trying to return to TAR for a better life than under their current government.

All goes to show, the politicians are just using this 'middle way' tactic to get what they want... international monetary aid, which they are putting into their own pockets rather than helping their people the way any decent leadership should be.

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 05:42:39 AM »
Be realistic, Belinda Mae, "President" Sangay never answers to the people.  If he even had the conscience to see the results of his first term of stagnation of the whole Tibetan issue he would not have the audacity to stand for election for second term.

Yes, China can be difficult to negotiate with, as a new world power and having said the "Middle Way" is not acceptable, is the CTA not capable of thinking a more palatable program or theme to open the door for dialogue. Or it is never the intention for CTA to have dialogue.

Maybe that is the way it is to be, for CTA to become redundant. Redundancy erupts from lack of ideas.


I agree with you here IT IS NEVER CTA's intention to have any dialogue with the Chinese... just like it has NEVER been their intention to have any dialogue with Dorje Shugden representatives. They only SAY dialogue but no action and behind look what they do to Shugden people.

Just like what Ringo Starr said their ACTIONS do NOT MATCH what the say and somehow the countries that hosted him and Richard Gere have been manipulated by their refugee status and of course because of charming Dalai Lama. If it was not for Dalai Lama do you think this Sangay will get to rub shoulders with some leaders? And what is this, from PM to President - so confusing, can't even decide on his own title, you can see all he thinks about is himself? He is not for the people at all. It is time for Tibetan to voice out the injustice they experience, which I am sure there is plenty to say, they just do not have a neutral platform to voice it out. Forget Umaylam, forget Democracy, it is all just a label and front use to trick the western donors. While you Westerners feel sorry for them and fight their "cause", Sangay and gang are laughing their way to the bank.

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Re: PM Sangay faces questions on Sino-Tibetan dialogue in parliament
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 12:59:23 PM »
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Since then, all he ever schemed was to rename himself as "President"

There is a subtlety here. A “prime minister” is merely a head of government, while a “president” is a head of state, with or without executive powers.

Currently, the imaginary “head of state” of exiled Tibetans is the evil dalie, while minuscule Sangay is just the imaginary “head of government”.

Minuscule Sangay, therefore, is just anticipating the evil dalie's demise, and presenting himself as his successor in a future “presidential” system, where the president is head of state and enjoys executive powers.

Of course this is just one possibility among others cooked by minuscule Sangay's CIA masterminds, but it shows their desperate lack of options regarding the evil dalie's succession.