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Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« on: April 24, 2013, 04:52:49 AM »
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Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'


Buddhists monks in Meiktila, Myanmar, where violence between Muslims and Buddhists left 43 dead last month

Hong Kong (CNN) -- For Thailand's Queen Sirikit, the 2007 attack on a minibus in southern Thailand's Yala province -- in which suspected Muslim militants shot eight Buddhists through the head in broad daylight -- was simply further proof of what she'd been saying for more than three years.
"We have to help people there to survive. If they need to be trained, train them. If they need to be armed, arm them," she was quoted as saying by one of her military staff, according to media reports.
Meanwhile, Thailand was convulsed by demonstrations condemning the attack.
Her response was to boost her support for the Or Ror Bor or Village Protection Force, the militia the Royal Aide-de-Camp department, under Queen Sirikit's direction, established in 2004.
Unlike other militia in the strife-torn region, whose make up reflects the local demographic, the Or Ror Bor is exclusively Buddhist, is often stationed near temple compounds and is tasked with protecting Buddhist communities.
While Buddhism is associated in the Western mind with pacifism, Buddhist nations such as Thailand, Myanmar and Sri Lanka have been engaged in vicious conflicts.
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In Thailand, state security is now locked in an increasingly bloody civil war with the Muslim minority near its border with Malaysia, in Myanmar civil strife looms between Buddhists and Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine State and Sri Lanka has just concluded a protracted civil war with its Tamil minority.
Cycle of birth and death
Buddhism, with its emphasis on karma and samsara -- the idea that the cycle of birth and death is driven by the actions of an individual -- is traditionally deeply averse to killing, believing it creates negative karma that will be revisited on a person in their own lifetime or in subsequent reincarnations.
So how do the largely Buddhist state security in these countries square their beliefs with the need to fight?
Michael Jerryson, Assistant Professor of Religious Studies at Florida's Eckerd College and co-editor of the book Buddhist Warfare, says that warfare is part of the human condition irrespective of religion.
"The first thing to remember is that people have a penchant for violence, it just so happens that every religion has people in it," Jerryson told CNN.
History of conflicts
He said that while Buddhism has a 1,600-year well-documented history of monastic-led rebellions and conflicts, the association of Buddhism in the Western mind is with pacifism.
"Buddhism certainly has a lot within its precepts about pacifism. In fact, almost every global religion does," he said.
However, Buddhism differs in that the act of killing is less the focus than the "intention" behind the killing, he said.
"When there are Buddhist monks traveling with soldiers in Sri Lanka and chanting with them and blessing them, their perspective is that they are not trying to support the violence but ... it's better to have soldiers with a cool, calm, clear head, with good intentions, than those that are hot headed," Jerryson said.
Self-immolations
He said Tibet's Dalai Lama spoke of the same focus on "intention" when asked about the recent spate of self-immolations in Tibet.
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The rhetoric of violence as a defense, and this is not unique to Buddhism, is the idea of violence for the sake of peace
Michael Jerryson
"He pointed out that these people are not on drugs, they don't seem insane but they're doing it for a cause - the intention seems to be clear," he said. "This is often used to rationalize violence within Buddhist circles but as we're seeing now with Myanmar and Thailand, cool heads are not prevailing now."
He said Buddhist states often mesh nationalism with Buddhism, justifying war on the grounds that a fracture in the nation state is a tear in the sacred fabric of a land which represents the well-spring of their belief.
"Sri Lanka often speaks about 'the little teardrop island' as the last true vestige of true Buddhism. So when the LTTE, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, tried to separate a portion of that 'teardrop island' it was analogous to attacking the mother," Jerryson said.
Political rhetoric
As with most countries that use violence to solve disputes, Jerryson says the political rhetoric will begin to assume that the means justifies the ends.
"The rhetoric of violence as a defense, and this is not unique to Buddhism, is the idea of violence for the sake of peace," he said. "That although this is an infraction, although we are gaining negative karma, it's for the greater good -- prima facie anyway."
Buddhist nation states have historically sought to use Buddhist doctrine to justify war. During the Japanese invasion of China in the 1930s, for instance, soldiers were told not only that they were defending Buddhism but that emptiness in Buddhism is the only true reality, therefore, in the end, nobody was being killed, Jerryson said.
Ultimately,added Jerryson, Buddhist countries battling insurgencies will find that their root problems are economic rather than sectarian.
"How many strong Buddhists states are we looking at in the world? How many of them are economically strong? Because with economic strength and vitality comes less likelihood of civil insurrections and wars.
"Of course, we see a lot violence with Islamic countries now, but we also see a lot of poverty with them too."
Identity crisis
For Thailand-based security analyst Don Pathan the problems in Thailand's south have less to do with religion than with identity.
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"The fact that the Or Ror Bor is exclusively Buddhist, doesn't say anything about Buddhism in ethical terms; it's just something that sets them apart from other security units," Pathan told CNN. "The issue is not about religion."
He said that while there were many factors influencing the insurgency -- economic, historical and the fact, he says, that the violence has migrated from rural areas to the cities -- he had also noticed a generational dimension to the problems.
"My experience with the older generation is that I still sense a strong fabric of society that still gets along together -- people are still friends whether they are Muslim or Buddhist.
"But I don't get that sense very strongly with the younger generation."
He said that while older Buddhists generally speak functional Malay to communicate with their neighbors, younger people have little interest in learning the language, regarding it as something only their grandparents do. The state emphasis on speaking Thai at schools has created problems, he said, reinforcing differences between the two communities.
"And it's not just Thai, but Central Thai -- that's how ethnocentric the Thai nation state can be. But they don't seem to understand that's a problem; that we need to accommodate the local identity," Pathan said.
He said the confusion between culture and religion was one of the driving forces behind the violence.
"It's like (groups) that say they practice correct Islam, but what is correct Islam? Islam is a religion not a culture," he said. "The problem (in southern Thailand) is that they don't separate these things; for them it's two sides of the same coin."


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Re: Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 02:50:44 PM »
We can see throughout the history of mankind there have been countless wars, fighting, violence, disharmony, disagreement and etc.!  Why does violence exist in the first place? It could due to many reasons such as religious, cultural, racial and etc. The fundamental reasons are the self-grasping mind and the self-cherishing mind.  The self-grasping mind views the self as existing inherently and the self-cherishing mind is solely concerned with its own welfare and happiness! Every man has these minds.  Every man views himself or herself as existing permanently and the most important.  He or she will at all times protect his or her interests instinctively even at the cost of their lives.  Mankind cannot accept the differences among themselves and to live in total harmony.  Naturally these behaviours will cause violence to arise irrespective of the religious beliefs of these men.

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Re: Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 10:17:57 AM »
Buddhist nation that have engaged in wars,but never for the sake of Buddhism itself.Only for the greed,hatred,jealousy etc...which is universal to all human beings,irrespective of religion.
Human beings,being what they are,incidents of greed and anger among the unenlightened.Buddhism probably has the fewest incidents of oppressive behavior among it's followers.
Soldiers in the Buddhist religion are actually noble people,but they are still affected by karma.They will still be affected by negative karma for taking a life.Soldiers are looked upon as a noble because they sacrifice their lives and their karma for the sake of protecting others.Buddhism does not condone violence and have an army,but only for DEFENCE.

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Re: Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 12:07:24 PM »
Well, I am torn here. On one hand, we as Buddhists do not harm others physically or mentally. Ok at least we are not supposed to harm others in short. On the other side of my hand is that are we being compassionate enough to let the people who are going to destroy us or people who are going to benefit others or just kill them in defence and avoid others collecting negative karma for taking ones life? If I can choose, I feel there will be  high chance that I will kill for defence. I know its not right and the karma is seriously heavy, butnif I know that it is going to safe quite a lot of people by doing so, then why not?

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Re: Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 12:26:45 PM »
It will be too sophisticated to see the conflict of Buddhism  as "violence for the sake of peace". To me,the internal conflicts in Thailand and Myanmar are more the result of a mixture of economic, political and cultural reasons.

The conflicts are in impoverished areas of the countries and ,though sectarianism is part of the name of the game,it looks more like the case of sharing too small an economic cake. Sri Lanka's and Thailand's internal insurgence and civil war appear to have stemmed from historical and cultural factorstoo. There is  a disenchantment with the state of things where the younger generation of Thais are concerned. Unlike the older generation, the younger seem to be more separate and apart from each other.

The basis for pacifism in Buddhism is that one doesn't see separation between 'self' and 'others'. One tries to practice equanimity, without  bias or prejudice.



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Re: Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 03:36:07 PM »
There will be no peace using violence. The conflict will never end by using violence. Of course we cannot just be compassionate idiotically to let others harm you but the least we can do is to avoid confrontational ways to defend yourself from harm. If we believed in Karma then all the more we should avoid violence. Or shall i say the collective karma of the people in that region has to be like that. Even it is so, all the more Buddhism should be practiced.

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Re: Conflict in Buddhism: 'Violence for the sake of peace?'
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 05:28:07 PM »
In these complex situations mixing religion, politics and cultural identities, I often revert to a little trick, I ask myself: what would Gandhi have done?

I imagine, if he had been a buddhist, he would have done things to support the muslim community or vice-versa. Certainly not something to oppress it...