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SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« on: March 25, 2008, 10:24:09 PM »
Video1: Dalai Lama says he can't ask Tibetans to "Shut Up"

http://dorjeshugden.com/images/dalailama-tibet.wmv

In this video extracted from the BBC, HH says that he cannot control or tell the Tibetans to shut up regarding the Tibetan Independence movement. It is very important that HH holiness tells them to stop or else many more will get killed. Embarrassing the Chinese govt will only make the crackdown in Tibet more severe. The Tibetans in Tibet will suffer. HH is the only person they will remotely listen to. They have to protest peacefully, as they are hopelessly outnumbered by the Chinese army. Supresssion will be brutal.
 
With the Dorje Shugden issue, HH says that he will go all the way with this issue. Why is it in that issue, he will make the Tibetans listen by saying it is a threat to tibet and his life? Isnt many ppl being killed in Tibet  a 'threat' to his life, reputation and future of peaceful tibet-sino relations? Aren't the safety of both the Tibetans and Chinese in Tibet upmost in HH's mind? If he can make so many speeches that hurt many regarding the Dorje Shugden ban, surely he can make many speeches to stop the violent protests that can save many lives in Tibet. Isn't saving lives much more worth speaking about and spending money on by the Tibetan Govt in exile?
 
These days it is widespread and believed that HH orchestrated the Lhasa uprising in which so many were killed. In the video you see monks throwing stones and sticks at the Chinese. You also see them violently tearing down doors and breaking windows. HH should send a message to all of them that they are monks, and to be seen doing that brings the prestige of the Tibetan Sangha down. Even in the protests by Burmese Sangha in Burma, you do not see Burmese sangha behaving such as the Tibetan Sangha behaves. HH should say something of that. He should make speeches to ask the Tibetan Sangha in Tibet to stop being violent,and acting violent. If he can go all the way with the Dorje Shugden issue, why can't he go all the way to stop the many monks rioting in Lhasa. After all monks can be patriotic. But the practice of Buddhist peace, gentleness and forgiveness should be above patriotism. After all, it brings the prestige of the monks down in the eyes of the world. These videos are being shown everywhere on the news. It makes the HH look very bad. If HH Dalai Lama can go all the way with the Dorje Shugden ban, why can't he go all the way to ban monks from protesting and why can't he asks the Tibetans to 'Shut up' and don't create violence??
 
Going all the way with the Dorje Shugden ban which restricts religious freedom and HH having the feeling he has the power to stop this practice that goes back 350 years, why can't he go all the way with banning the violence of the Sangha? He can say that violence by the Sangha shortens his life and endangers the Tibetan Cause. That is what he said of the Dorje Shugden issue. How can that apply? Simple. The main support the world gives Tibetans is because of Tibetan Buddhism. Tibet has no other famous 'export' commodity from their country. No scientists, doctors, actors, writers, artists that are world famous or contribute to humankind. When we think of Tibet, we think Tibetan Buddhism immediately. So if the Sangha's prestige is damaged or lost, so will Tibetan Buddhism. If Tibetan Buddhism's prestige is lost, so will the support for Tibet. So HH should lift the ban on Shugden and put a ban on rioting monks, sangha and the violence that arises from them. It is a very bad public image. Since they wear the robes and HH wears the robes, and he is their leader it reflects badly.

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Video2: Protesting monks beaten in Nepal

http://dorjeshugden.com/images/nepalbeatmonks.wmv

On BBC, monks protesting in Nepal are beaten by the police. Clubbed and pushed violently into the paddy wagon. Very bad image for Tibetan Buddhism. Is the Tibetan Govt in exile allowing these type of images to flood the world media? Why are they not putting energy and resources into stopping the monks from political activities that endangers the bigger picture, which is Tibetan Buddhism. Buddhism is Tibet's only and best export. If this is damaged, world support for Tibet will greatly diminish. Will they allow their sangha to be so degraded? Instead of putting so much engergy into the BAN ON A SACRED PRACTICE SUCH AS DORJE SHUGDEN, the Tibetan Government should write books, give speeches, send message, have voting sticks, and push the Sangha to stop all activities such as violence and political activities that damage Tibetan Buddhism. The small minded Tibetan Govt always speaks about issues that has no damage to Tibet and HH such as Dorje Shugden. But ignores bigger issues: the reputation damage of the Tibetan Sangha in world view. If HH and Tibetan Govt cannot control their monks inside and outside of Tibet, why is it they put so much resources into banning Dorje Shugden among the Sangha?
 
Tibetan monks on BBC rioting with stones and sticks in Lhasa sends a very damaging message to the whole world. It damages the image of HH, the Tibetan Govt in exile, and Tibetan Buddhism. The Tibetan Govt should focus all energy on that instead of the Dorje Shugden issue. Breaking the Samaya of teacher and students in the banning of Dorje Shugden does have terrible karmic effects.
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Re: SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 11:15:43 PM »
Why does Nepal care if people protest Chinese occupation of Tibet?

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Re: SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 01:15:28 AM »
Nepal has very close and excellent relations with the government of China for decades. Nepal recieves much financial aid from China. So whatever China says, they will listen. China is a very powerful neighbour bordering Nepal.

If Nepal supports Tibetans, what do they get in return? As with any Govt in the world, if they go all out and support Tibet 'against' China, what do they get?? Nothing. As China grows in economic power which is very swift now, whatever they say, the world will basically go along with. That is the hard line truth.

The Tibetan govt in exile's days in Dharamsala are numbered. They have to act and work fast. That is if they can do anything at all.

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Re: SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 07:58:00 PM »
This is so wrong and inhumane! What have these monks done to deserve such consequences? They were just doing what everyone is doing, practising their own religious practise and having their own religion. I don't see what is wrong with that! Everyone should be treated with equality ( technically every being should be ), everyone should have their own religious freedom and this is basic human rights. No one has the power to over right this!

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Re: SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2015, 10:28:39 AM »
It is always sad to see protesters are being beaten up just because they go onto the street and protest. It is even more sad the monks are being beaten up. Monks are supposed to be not involved in politics, but sometimes out of no choice, they had to do what needs to be done, and for that, they are being beaten up :( so sad to see this...

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Re: SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2015, 01:12:11 AM »
I do agree with the saying that why HH Dalai Lama could go all out for Dorje Shugden and why can't go all out in stopping violence and vandalism in his best effort? Seeing the practitioners are all fighting against themselves and doesn't attain unity is such disgrace..

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Re: SHOCKING VIDEOS!!! Tibetan monks beaten
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2015, 03:43:42 AM »
In the two videos, it is very clear that the Tibetans taking part in the protest are very loyal to His Holiness the Dalai Lama and would not think twice about being beaten by the Chinese authorities. They have willingly risk their life's in the belief that what they are doing will bring independence to Tibet. I pray His Holiness the Dalai Lama would finally sound out to his loyal supporters to stop their foolish acts and to fight for their cause through a more well thought out effective way.