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eyesoftara

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Madhyamika
« on: November 12, 2015, 09:29:17 AM »
Madhyamika (Skt. M?dhyamika; Tib. ????????, umapa; Wyl. dbu ma pa) — the followers of the Middle Way philosophy, which teaches freedom from all extremes. They say that just as truly existent external phenomena were refuted by the Chittamatra school, a truly existent perceiving mind must also be refuted, since both are equally lacking in inherent existence, being mere dependent originations.

The Madhyamika school originates with Nagarjuna, who commented upon the direct meaning of the Prajñaparamita sutras in his Collection of Reasoning, which includes the famous Root Verses on the Middle Way.

There are two ‘schools’ or streams within the Madhyamika: the Svatantrika and the Prasangika.

These two approaches came about when two Indian masters wrote slightly different commentaries to Nagarjuna’s Root Verses text.

Buddhapalita insisted that the followers of Madhyamika should not make any independent assertions, but merely show the absurd consequences of holding to any extreme position. This approach is called prasangika, meaning “consequence”.
The other, Bhavaviveka, thought it was acceptable to use what is called “autonomous syllogism” (svatantra). This approach is called svatantrika.


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Re: Madhyamika
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2015, 03:12:22 PM »
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Madhyamika (Skt. M?dhyamika; Tib. ????????, umapa; Wyl. dbu ma pa) — the followers of the Middle Way philosophy, which teaches freedom from all extremes.

The Middle Way philosophy does not generically teach “freedom from all extremes” as often seen in Sakya, Kagyu, and Nyingma texts.

Indeed, it just teaches freedom from the extremes of permanence and annihilation, or of inherent existence and total non-existence.

The Buddha himself in the Prajnaparamita Sutra calls emptiness “bhutakoti”, which means “extreme of reality”. “Koti” means extremity, extreme point.

Ultimate reality (paramarthasatya), or emptiness is also an extreme, just because “ultimate” means extreme. It's the same as bhutakoti, the extreme of reality.

Therefore, there is no such thing as a blank “freedom from all extremes”.

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Re: Madhyamika
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 09:55:23 AM »
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Madhyamika (Skt. M?dhyamika; Tib. ????????, umapa; Wyl. dbu ma pa) — the followers of the Middle Way philosophy, which teaches freedom from all extremes.

The Middle Way philosophy does not generically teach “freedom from all extremes” as often seen in Sakya, Kagyu, and Nyingma texts.

Indeed, it just teaches freedom from the extremes of permanence and annihilation, or of inherent existence and total non-existence.

The Buddha himself in the Prajnaparamita Sutra calls emptiness “bhutakoti”, which means “extreme of reality”. “Koti” means extremity, extreme point.

Ultimate reality (paramarthasatya), or emptiness is also an extreme, just because “ultimate” means extreme. It's the same as bhutakoti, the extreme of reality.

Therefore, there is no such thing as a blank “freedom from all extremes”.


This point I agree with you. Further, the Madhyamika school do not prescribe assertion of what is Emptiness after eliminating the extremes of permanence and annihilation, or of inherent existence and total non-existence.

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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2015, 02:51:16 AM »
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Further, the Madhyamika school do not prescribe assertion of what is Emptiness after eliminating the extremes of permanence and annihilation, or of inherent existence and total non-existence.

Of course it does. It asserts precisely that emptiness is that very lack of inherent existence.