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Title: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: christine V on January 27, 2019, 06:00:58 PM
This is an important news where the China Government have open up their door to welcome those Tibet refugees to back to Tibet China. I think, Tibetan who are refugees should not waste this opportunity before China government shut their offer on this. Looking at now, many of the countries around the world does not welcome the Tibetan refugees due to the China’s influence. Not only this, many scandals that display by CTA have make the countries who supported Tibetan Cause lost confident in Tibetan Refugees.

Below is the news

[b]Returned Tibetans encouraged to promote ethnic unity[/b]

Tibet regional government has encouraged returned overseas Tibetans and relatives of Tibetans living abroad to help promote ethnic unity and oppose separatist activities.

A tea party was held on Wednesday in Lhasa, Southwest China's Tibet Autonomous Region, where returned overseas Tibetans and relatives of Tibetans living abroad were invited to greet the Spring Festival and Tibetan New Year, the Tibet Daily reported on Sunday.

Lhapa Donrup, Party secretary of Lhasa Municipal Bureau of Ethnic and Religious Affairs, attended the tea party, where he encouraged the returned overseas Tibetans and relatives of Tibetans living abroad to support the policies of the Communist Party of China, uphold national unity and resolutely oppose separatist activities, according to the report.

Lhapa Donrup also encouraged them to support the reform and development in Lhasa, help promote the Party's policies to overseas Tibetans so that Tibetans living overseas can learn about the real Tibet.

A representative of returned overseas Tibetans who came back with his family in 1986 said that he had witnessed Tibet's economic and social changes in these years and himself had enjoyed the fruit of these development.

Zhu Weiqun, former head of the Ethnic and Religious Affairs Committee of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference, told the Global Times on Sunday "the situation of overseas Tibetans is complicated, including the reasons why they left Tibet and their living conditions."

Some Tibetans left to earn money, and some had blindly followed the Dalai Lama, but then returned due to China's economic development and improvement in living conditions, according to Zhu.

Zhu noted that "returned Tibetans should tell those who are abroad and still don't know the true conditions of Tibet."

Tibet's GDP grew about 10 percent in 2018, the 26th straight year that Tibet has recorded double-digit GDP growth. Tibet's GDP was estimated at more than 140 billion yuan ($21 billion) last year.

The 14th Dalai Lama fled abroad in 1959 with a small group of followers. His group is driven by the political goal of achieving "Tibetan independence."

The official statistics of the Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the State Council show that there are about 200,000 Tibetans living overseas, mainly in 40 countries such as India, Bhutan, the US and Switzerland, China National Radio reported in July 2014

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Link: http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1137224.shtml (http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1137224.shtml)
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: DharmaSpace on January 27, 2019, 07:00:54 PM
Tibet under China is experiencing unprecedented growth and prosperity.

Why would any Tibetan want to stay in India and eke out a meagre existence?

Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on January 29, 2019, 08:24:05 AM
Looking at the progress and development of Tibet under the ruling of China, I would say going back to Tibet is a better choice. The CTA is only using the Tibetans as a money making tool, they don't care about their future. Everyone in the CTA has a passport but the normal Tibetans still remain as refugees after 60 years. How fair is that?

Actually, many Tibetans want to go back to Tibet. There are almost no Tibetans from Tibet arriving in India and more Tibetans are applying to go back to China. Some of them even try to enter China illegally. Things have changed, Tibet is not the same, it has progressed over the years and it is no longer backward as before.

Lobsang Sangay said he needs another 50 years to free Tibet, this is so ridiculous. A smart Tibetan will not want to wait for that long. Why sacrifice their own future for a promise that will never be fulfilled? The CTA is a corrupted and selfish government, they are not trustworthy.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: SabS on January 30, 2019, 06:31:18 AM
Looking at the progress and development of Tibet under the ruling of China, I would say going back to Tibet is a better choice. The CTA is only using the Tibetans as a money making tool, they don't care about their future. Everyone in the CTA has a passport but the normal Tibetans still remain as refugees after 60 years. How fair is that?

Actually, many Tibetans want to go back to Tibet. There are almost no Tibetans from Tibet arriving in India and more Tibetans are applying to go back to China. Some of them even try to enter China illegally. Things have changed, Tibet is not the same, it has progressed over the years and it is no longer backward as before.

Lobsang Sangay said he needs another 50 years to free Tibet, this is so ridiculous. A smart Tibetan will not want to wait for that long. Why sacrifice their own future for a promise that will never be fulfilled? The CTA is a corrupted and selfish government, they are not trustworthy.

It is just plain ridiculous that Lobsang Sangay mentioned about the 50 years knowingly that their lease with India has only at most 30 years left. Always assuming that India will play along with him or is he trying to force this additional lease on India? If India disagrees then they may seem unkind but if they agree then they are again depriving their own people of the resources and welfare that the Tibetans in exile are enjoying. Either way, Lobsang Sangay is making India look bad.  Besides, it is really incredible that he would even suggest for his own people to remain as beggars for another 50 years while he enjoys his luxurious life. I am astounded by his callousness really!!
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on January 31, 2019, 05:44:24 AM

It is just plain ridiculous that Lobsang Sangay mentioned about the 50 years knowingly that their lease with India has only at most 30 years left. Always assuming that India will play along with him or is he trying to force this additional lease on India? If India disagrees then they may seem unkind but if they agree then they are again depriving their own people of the resources and welfare that the Tibetans in exile are enjoying. Either way, Lobsang Sangay is making India look bad.  Besides, it is really incredible that he would even suggest for his own people to remain as beggars for another 50 years while he enjoys his luxurious life. I am astounded by his callousness really!!

You are quite right to say that! The CTA always takes things for granted thinking everyone has the obligation to do as what they say. They are very arrogant, extremely selfish and very ungrateful. India has been very kind to them but they want more and more. They have been a taker and they continue to be a taker.

For Lobsang Sangay to make such a statement, it definitely has put India in a very difficult position. If India disagrees, some will say India is very unkind. If India agrees with it, it will make their relationship with China worse. Lobsang Sangay never puts this into perspective and just says what he wants.

India has been so kind to the Tibetans but they see India as the second best. For example, why is Lobsang Sangay holding a US passport but not an Indian passport? India provided the Tibetans shelters, the lands to rebuild their home, treat them like their own people but how did the Tibetans repay India? They don't think of giving anything back but they only take and create more problems. If the CTA is not setting up a good example, how to expect the rest of the Tibetans to be grateful?
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Pema8 on February 03, 2019, 02:40:46 PM
With the opportunities that the Tibetans have now in China this is an easy choice.

Why would anyone want to stay under the CTA who is not interested in giving better opportunities to their own people but is much more concerned about their own hidden agendas.

Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Drolma on February 06, 2019, 03:28:05 PM
There really is no future if one relies on the CTA. What has the CTA done for the Tibetans for the last 60 years? The situation of the Tibetans in exile has not changed a bit, they are still refugees with no identity.

Many political refugees after a few years would have been accepted by other countries and given citizenship. Even though the CTA knows it very well that they will not be able to free Tibet, they still don't want to admit it because the refugee status is a great tool for them to get free money. The CTA will not work hard for anything, they want an easy life and they don't care if the Tibetans are suffering.

Indian has very kindly offered citizenship to the Tibetans but the CTA makes it so difficult for the Tibetans to submit their application to the Indian government. What the CTA wants is to continue to exploit the Tibetans. They want a comfortable life only for themselves, isn't this mentality similar to the Tibetan government in the old days?
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on February 18, 2019, 02:27:10 PM
Tibetans will be better off to go back to Tibet under China. At least they will have a place to call home and a real identity. They have been a refugee in India for every 60 years and how many more years they want to continue to be like this? They are at the mercy of other country and even their own government. Even their own trust government, the Tibetan leadership abuses them.

Since they can't even trust their own government, why dont they just take a leap of faith and go back to Tibet under China. Since China had taken over Tibet, the number of Tibetans that escaped from Tibet to India has been decreasing dramatically every year. In the Year os 2018, there are only less than 100 people that came from Tibet to India.

I guess the situation in Tibet must have improved alot that even the Tibetans does not want to leave Tibet anymore. Since they had stayed as refugees in India for over 60 years, it is time for them to move on and trying new things and age is just a number for them. It will be good to see that even the old generation in Tibet are still active and not just sitemap.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: SabS on February 18, 2019, 04:44:40 PM
Tibetans will be better off to go back to Tibet under China. At least they will have a place to call home and a real identity. They have been a refugee in India for every 60 years and how many more years they want to continue to be like this? They are at the mercy of other country and even their own government. Even their own trust government, the Tibetan leadership abuses them.

Since they can't even trust their own government, why dont they just take a leap of faith and go back to Tibet under China. Since China had taken over Tibet, the number of Tibetans that escaped from Tibet to India has been decreasing dramatically every year. In the Year os 2018, there are only less than 100 people that came from Tibet to India.

I guess the situation in Tibet must have improved alot that even the Tibetans does not want to leave Tibet anymore. Since they had stayed as refugees in India for over 60 years, it is time for them to move on and trying new things and age is just a number for them. It will be good to see that even the old generation in Tibet are still active and not just sitemap.

You are right! They will have a real home instead of the refugee camps that they stay in. Since China had invested so much into Tibet, it is now a place where you can earn a better living and be owners of businesses, houses and land. Under Tibetan Leaders back then, most were just slaves to serve, never able to own anything. Now they can live according to what they wish to achieve. China had preserved Tibetan culture better than the Tibetan Leaders. Tibetans in exile are losing their identities whilst in Tibet, temples, places of worship and historical places are being preserved. Definitely, China is a good choice for the Tibetans in exile. After all, it is their home albeit with better conditions of living.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on February 18, 2019, 05:00:09 PM
Honestly speaking, if I were Tibetan, I will choose to go back to Tibet. I will not stay in India and continue to be used by the CTA. It is very obvious the CTA is exploiting the Tibetans to make themselves rich.

The living conditions in Tibet has improved so much for the past 60 years. While the Tibetans in exile are shouting slogan to free Tibet, the Chinese government has invested so much to build infrastructure such as road, railway, airport to connect Tibet with the rest of the world. The influx of tourists has created a lot of business opportunities for the Tibetans.

On the other hand, the Tibetans in India are still a stateless refugee, their lives have not improved much since they arrived in India. The CTA keeps giving them empty promises and uses them to ask for free money from the west. The CTA puts no importance on the Tibetans.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on February 19, 2019, 07:53:29 AM
Tibetans will be better off to go back to Tibet under China. At least they will have a place to call home and a real identity. They have been a refugee in India for every 60 years and how many more years they want to continue to be like this? They are at the mercy of other country and even their own government. Even their own trust government, the Tibetan leadership abuses them.

Since they can't even trust their own government, why dont they just take a leap of faith and go back to Tibet under China. Since China had taken over Tibet, the number of Tibetans that escaped from Tibet to India has been decreasing dramatically every year. In the Year os 2018, there are only less than 100 people that came from Tibet to India.

I guess the situation in Tibet must have improved alot that even the Tibetans does not want to leave Tibet anymore. Since they had stayed as refugees in India for over 60 years, it is time for them to move on and trying new things and age is just a number for them. It will be good to see that even the old generation in Tibet are still active and not just sitemap.

You are right! They will have a real home instead of the refugee camps that they stay in. Since China had invested so much into Tibet, it is now a place where you can earn a better living and be owners of businesses, houses and land. Under Tibetan Leaders back then, most were just slaves to serve, never able to own anything. Now they can live according to what they wish to achieve. China had preserved Tibetan culture better than the Tibetan Leaders. Tibetans in exile are losing their identities whilst in Tibet, temples, places of worship and historical places are being preserved. Definitely, China is a good choice for the Tibetans in exile. After all, it is their home albeit with better conditions of living.

Tibet now is really a much better place to stay at compared to the Tibetan refugee camps in India. China had invested so much into Tibet and made sure that the Tibetans are well taken cared off. They have initiated a campaign to battle poverty and manage to remove most of the Tibetan population out of poverty. They promise to eliminate poverty totally in the near future.

On the other hand, China also introduces courses for Tibetans to teach them a skill for them to earn a livelihood since alot of them did not receive a proper education. Not to mention that these courses are free. This is how the Chinese government had helped the Tibetans in Tibet and what did the Tibetan government do to help them other than persuading them to burn themselves to death?

The number of Tibetans feel from Tibet to India had reduced dramatically and that is a very good telltale sign that the situation in Tibet is not that bad after all and it is very possible for it to be even better than Tibetan refugee camps in India.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on March 02, 2019, 02:24:16 PM

You are right! They will have a real home instead of the refugee camps that they stay in. Since China had invested so much into Tibet, it is now a place where you can earn a better living and be owners of businesses, houses and land. Under Tibetan Leaders back then, most were just slaves to serve, never able to own anything. Now they can live according to what they wish to achieve. China had preserved Tibetan culture better than the Tibetan Leaders. Tibetans in exile are losing their identities whilst in Tibet, temples, places of worship and historical places are being preserved. Definitely, China is a good choice for the Tibetans in exile. After all, it is their home albeit with better conditions of living.

Under the administration of the CTA, the lives of the Tibetans have not improved at all, many of them are still living in poverty. After 60 years, the Tibetans are still refugees. The CTA seems to be quite happy to keep it this way.

But for India and China, they see it does not make sense that after 60 years the Tibetans are still refugees and they are suffering. India cannot be hosting the Tibetans forever so they are very kind to offer citizenship to the Tibetans. China, on the other hand, also opens up its door for the Tibetans to go back.

Now, who actually cares about the Tibetans? The CTA or the Indian and Chinese government? It is so sad to see that the CTA does not care about the Tibetans and they are only exploiting the Tibetans for their own benefits. It was like this in the past, it is still like this now. If the Tibetans are wise, they should either apply for Indian citizenship or they should go back to China.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Drolma on March 17, 2019, 01:02:09 PM
For the past 60 years, the CTA has not done anything good to the Tibetans in exile, they continue to exploit the Tibetans for their own benefit. For the past 60 years, they always consult Nechung oracle if they would be able to go back to Tibet. Nechung gave positive answers but the answers turned out to be wrong.

Instead of blaming Nechung for giving the wrong prophecy, the CTA blames Dorje Shugden for their failure to fulfill their promise to the Tibetans. The CTA spends most of their time distracting people from scrutinise their failure by creating conflict but never puts effort to make sure they fulfill their promise to the Tibetans. Hence, nothing has changed much for the Tibetans in exile for the past 60 years.

Many Tibetans now realise the CTA does not really care about their welfare. There are so much progress and development in Tibet now under the ruling of the Chinese government. The contrast between life in India and in Tibet is big, it is not hard to see who has the capability to give a brighter future to the Tibetans.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2019, 10:53:48 AM
This is actually very good news for Tibetans in exile because they get to have a better life by returning to China. There is nothing for them to fight for in India because everything has been gobbled up by CTA. There is nothing left for those poor Tibetans in Exile except more waiting and agony. They should take up this opportunity to get away from CTA and be free once and for all especially when China is the one initiating it.

China has been treating the Tibetans very good and they are handling Tibet much better than the Tibetan government. Tibet had advanced so much compared to the last time under the Tibetan government's leadership. The Chinese invested big time into Tibet and there is no way they are going to hand Tibet back to the Tibetan leadership.

Tibetan leadership can forget about getting independence for Tibet because the chance for it is gone and Chinese will never agree to it for all the work they had done for Tibet. Tibetans in exile really have to think for themselves and have a good look of what is the reality now. Tibetans in Tibet are doing much better contrary to what the Tibetan leadership is claiming. It is much better for Tibetans to join China now while they still have a chance to do so.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: dsnowlion on March 25, 2019, 02:44:04 AM
These days more and more Tibetans are actually STAYING BACK in Tibet. This goes to show that they see a better future straying in China than going running away to Dharamsala. Obviously, China will be a better place to be in if you want a future. What future can Dharamsala provide? What future can CTA provide? With a PM who cheats his own people and sexually abuse his female employees... what future do you think Tibetans have.

Now even those in India are giving up their hope of their so-called gov as they are taking up Indian citizenship as we can read from this article http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/the-dalai-lama-remains-a-refugee-but-his-people-will-not/ (http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/the-dalai-lama-remains-a-refugee-but-his-people-will-not/)

People are basically fed up of hearing lies and deception, and paying a government that does nothing for them, a government that only benefits themselves and on top of that create so much disharmony and disunity amongst their own people.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on March 25, 2019, 02:58:12 AM
With the opportunities that the Tibetans have now in China this is an easy choice.

Why would anyone want to stay under the CTA who is not interested in giving better opportunities to their own people but is much more concerned about their own hidden agendas.

China or Tibet (whatever you want to call it) definite provide better opportunity and prospect to people, not just Tibetans. Look at how strong the economy in China has become. As long as someone is hardworking, they can make a lot of money and improve their lives. In India, the CTA wants the Tibetans to remain as a refugee and be poor because they need to have poor-me story to ask for free money. In China, Tibetans are taken care of like how a mother is taking care of a child; whereas, in India, the CTA is treating the Tibetans like a slave. China is being very generous and open to invite the Tibetans to go back because they want to share the wealth with the Tibetans.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: daka on March 25, 2019, 03:00:15 AM
Obviously, China will be a better place to be in if you want a future. What future can Dharamsala provide? What future can CTA provide? With a PM who cheats his own people and sexually abuse his female employees... what future do you think Tibetans have.

China knew it well, that's why they openly invite Tibetans to go back Tibet. By saying that, we know that China has gathered enough fact check that Tibetans are no longer wanting to leave Tibet, and this indirectly shows that Tibetans nowadays are no longer willing to throw their future into the darkness for the Dalai Lama anymore. It somehow indicates a post-Dalai Lama's era is coming soon.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on March 25, 2019, 03:49:29 AM
This is very good news and all Tibetans in Exile should take this chance to return to Tibet and escape from the clutches of the Tibetan government. There is no use for them to stay in India because they have no future there. China is investing a lot in Tibet and if those Tibetans go back, they will have a second chance in life and I even heard that China will be eradicating poverty in Tibet very soon! Tibetans need not consider anymore and should go back to Tibet immediately for their own good.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tenzin K on May 04, 2019, 12:24:44 PM
More and more Tibetan in Tibet should speak up about the changes in Tibet. They should give the idea of the condition, opportunity and support by China in Tibet. I strongly believe it will not be as worst as in India.

In fact CTA should work his way to be friend with China. They just left this one hurdle which causes them much more tension. CTA should stop irritating China and eventually China can accept the Tibetan.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on May 13, 2019, 07:19:49 AM
More and more Tibetan in Tibet should speak up about the changes in Tibet. They should give the idea of the condition, opportunity and support by China in Tibet. I strongly believe it will not be as worst as in India.

In fact CTA should work his way to be friend with China. They just left this one hurdle which causes them much more tension. CTA should stop irritating China and eventually China can accept the Tibetan.

CTA will never work their way to be friends with China. Just look at their attitude for the past 60 years. They have been extremely arrogant towards China and they believe that whatever they are doing which is talking bad about China and playing the victim card will work forever. However, things have changed since 1959 and their tactic is no longer working.

China is one of the superpower countries in the world now and Tibetans in exile are just nobody when compared with them. China is so powerful right now that there is no way the Tibetans can "force" China to give back Tibet to them. China has invested so much into making Tibet a better place and the Tibetans are expecting China to just hand them back their country that easily?

The Tibetan government is delusional to think like that and they are fooling themselves and also the Tibetans in exile. Tibetans in India now should learn to be smart and go back to China when they actually allows it. There is no hope in the Tibetan settlements anymore.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tenzin K on June 02, 2019, 11:42:17 PM
Tibetan should take this opportunity to go back Tibet. CTA can't do anything for them and no point to wait. In fact, if China opens the door just go with it because eventually when they go back Tibet, it's under China anyway. For CTA to go back to Tibet still have to go through China. No fast way but only China.

Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on June 03, 2019, 01:29:29 PM
Tibetan should take this opportunity to go back Tibet. CTA can't do anything for them and no point to wait. In fact, if China opens the door just go with it because eventually when they go back Tibet, it's under China anyway. For CTA to go back to Tibet still have to go through China. No fast way but only China.

That is a good point. Even if the CTA wants to bring the Tibetans back to Tibet, they have to go through China too. I do not think that will be anytime soon because they had been trying for 60 years and until now, there is no result. Since China is opening her arms to Tibetans in Exile to return to Tibet, they should take the opportunity to go back.

CTA is not worth their support and they could not do anything to help their own people. The people, Tibetans in exile should take matters into their own hands and fight for their future since their government won't do it for them. There is no point to wait further since 60 years had passed with no results from CTA.

China has been very compassionate towards the Tibetans by helping them economically and developing Tibet. Tibet is a much better place now and generally, Tibetans have better lives now in Tibet. No more serfdom and more equality now.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tenzin K on June 06, 2019, 07:21:50 PM
If this is for real then Tibetan in exile should take this opportunity to go back to their homeland. But we will see another group which is the younger generation may not want to as they have lived in India since they were born and get used to the lifestyle already. Actually, after years there is the emotional has changed and the only reason for the Tibetan in exile to leave India is because they want to look for a better opportunity to earn for living and not entirely for Tibet. Now the situation in India is different. Many Tibetan would just leave India to any other country that they can seek for better living and not particularly Tibet. The point is that no more living under CTA which doesn't cause only suffering for the last 60 years.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: SabS on June 09, 2019, 04:22:22 AM
Even now, Lobsang Sangay is still going on his tour to various countries to put China down. And he expects China to trust him and CTA to negotiate for the deal of autonomy? Stupid PHD holder! Anyone without intelligence would know that if you make someone angry, you don't expect kindness from that person. So if Sangay really means for his people to go home, then he should be praising China for their tremendous effort and investment into Tibet to help the Tibetan elevate their standards of living, not go round repeating human rights issues which incidentally is being contributed by the CTA.

Here what Phayul reported on Sangay's repetitious poor me speech again (do you see the begging bowl nearby?): http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41501&article=Beijing%E2%80%99s+lack+of+trust+impeding+Sino-Tibet+dialogue%3a+President+Sangay (http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41501&article=Beijing%E2%80%99s+lack+of+trust+impeding+Sino-Tibet+dialogue%3a+President+Sangay)
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on June 11, 2019, 01:07:38 PM
Even now, Lobsang Sangay is still going on his tour to various countries to put China down. And he expects China to trust him and CTA to negotiate for the deal of autonomy? Stupid PHD holder! Anyone without intelligence would know that if you make someone angry, you don't expect kindness from that person. So if Sangay really means for his people to go home, then he should be praising China for their tremendous effort and investment into Tibet to help the Tibetan elevate their standards of living, not go round repeating human rights issues which incidentally is being contributed by the CTA.

Here what Phayul reported on Sangay's repetitious poor me speech again (do you see the begging bowl nearby?): [url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41501&article=Beijing%E2%80%99s+lack+of+trust+impeding+Sino-Tibet+dialogue%3a+President+Sangay[/url] ([url]http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=41501&article=Beijing%E2%80%99s+lack+of+trust+impeding+Sino-Tibet+dialogue%3a+President+Sangay[/url])


President Xi is also busy touring around the world but he is doing something that will benefit everyone, not just China. He has this big initiative called One-Belt-One Road to link China with the rest of the world via railway, road or sea. This would be like the silk road in the old time, the economy of the participating countries will definitely be boosted.

Lobsang Sangay, on the other hand, is busy touring the world to get free money. He does not have the quality of a leader, what has he done ever since he became the leader of the Tibetan community. There is not much of progress and development in the Tibetan community. In fact, more Tibetans are leaving India now and almost no Tibetans are arriving in India from China.

The future for the Tibetans in the exile community is very uncertain. If China is so generous to open its door to allow Tibetans to go back, they should not miss this opportunity. China will rule the word soon, the future is brighter and better in China.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on June 28, 2019, 12:31:01 PM
China has been generous to the Tibetan for as long as I can remember. As long as the Tibetans are willing to abide by the rules that they have set to avoid any unwanted incidents to occur, they will be fine. Those who intentionally went against the rules will have a hard time and most probably they will face very harsh consequences.

Tibet now is a very nice place to live in with poverty rate is lower than 10%. That is incredible when we take into consideration that 95% of the population in Tibet were living in poverty before the invasion of the Chinese. China invested so much into fighting poverty including aids and classes for the Tibetans to improve themselves for a better future.

Since China is willing to accept the Tibetans back in Tibet, Tibetans should treasure this opportunity and go back to Tibet. Tibetan settlements in India is not doing well at all and it will only deteriorate further when His Holiness the Dalai Lama passes into clear light.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tenzin K on June 29, 2019, 07:34:28 AM
Is time to go back home!

After 60 years CTA never fulfills their promises and created much more suffering for the Tibetan with the Dorje Shugden ban, recognized another leader in other lineages, scandals after scandals and etc. Obviously, they are not here to improve Tibetan situation but just taking advantage to gain personal interest. Look at Lobsang Sangay, as the president but holding US citizenship, why? Why not Tibetan and be Tibetan with the rest of Tibetan and fight for Tibetan?

Many more Tibetan leadership are holding foreign citizenship. Why? This is their insurance if anything happens. If this is the case can Tibetan rely on them? If this is the case why Tibetan leadership create so much hardship for Tibetan to take Indian citizenship just like their leaders? Tibetan leadership would not allow that because if Tibetan become Indian they will not have enough number of Tibetan to ask for sponsorship. It's boiling back to dollar and cents for them.

This is the people that leading the Tibetan and we have not seen any improvement but only scandals after scandals. It's time to go back is better to rely on the Chinese as so far we have not seen any downside of it.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Alex on June 30, 2019, 07:39:52 AM
Is time to go back home!

After 60 years CTA never fulfills their promises and created much more suffering for the Tibetan with the Dorje Shugden ban, recognized another leader in other lineages, scandals after scandals and etc. Obviously, they are not here to improve Tibetan situation but just taking advantage to gain personal interest. Look at Lobsang Sangay, as the president but holding US citizenship, why? Why not Tibetan and be Tibetan with the rest of Tibetan and fight for Tibetan?

Many more Tibetan leadership are holding foreign citizenship. Why? This is their insurance if anything happens. If this is the case can Tibetan rely on them? If this is the case why Tibetan leadership create so much hardship for Tibetan to take Indian citizenship just like their leaders? Tibetan leadership would not allow that because if Tibetan become Indian they will not have enough number of Tibetan to ask for sponsorship. It's boiling back to dollar and cents for them.

This is the people that leading the Tibetan and we have not seen any improvement but only scandals after scandals. It's time to go back is better to rely on the Chinese as so far we have not seen any downside of it.

It is obvious that the CTA cannot handle their own people anymore. They can't do it and never did. That is why Tibet is in the hands of China now. it is obvious that CTA does not want to go back to Tibet and they are just using the name of Tibetan cause to earn donations. If they are very passionate about going back to Tibet, then why almost all of them owns a passport from another country?

They should be like other Tibetans who only has a yellow travel book to show their faith and loyalty to Tibet. The reason why they have another passport is that it is a backup plan for them in case the Tibetan cause failed. It has already failed for 60 years now China is stronger than ever, Tibet's independence is impossible.

China will not return Tibet back to the Tibetans because they have invested so much into it. They improved the lives of the Tibetans by building infrastructures and also social aids. On the other hand, they even manage to reduce the rate of poverty in Tibet to below 10%. This is something CTA will never be able to do and China will definitely not hand everything on a silver platter to CTA.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on July 04, 2019, 03:31:19 PM
These days more and more Tibetans are actually STAYING BACK in Tibet. This goes to show that they see a better future straying in China than going running away to Dharamsala. Obviously, China will be a better place to be in if you want a future. What future can Dharamsala provide? What future can CTA provide? With a PM who cheats his own people and sexually abuse his female employees... what future do you think Tibetans have.

Now even those in India are giving up their hope of their so-called gov as they are taking up Indian citizenship as we can read from this article [url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/the-dalai-lama-remains-a-refugee-but-his-people-will-not/[/url] ([url]http://www.dorjeshugden.com/all-articles/news/the-dalai-lama-remains-a-refugee-but-his-people-will-not/[/url])

People are basically fed up of hearing lies and deception, and paying a government that does nothing for them, a government that only benefits themselves and on top of that create so much disharmony and disunity amongst their own people.


This is true, no more Tibetans are arriving in India from Tibet. This is not because the border control is tighter but because life in Tibet is so much better in Tibet now. There are so many opportunities especially education. Besides, the Chinese government also implement various programs to help to improve the standard of living of the Tibetans.

If we look at the living condition and situation in India, the Tibetans are still stateless, their future is very uncertain. Even if they are hard-working, there is not much opportunity available because they are refugees. The CTA is actually quite happy with their current situation because they can make use of the Tibetan's plight to get donations without working hard.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Drolma on November 20, 2019, 08:35:08 AM
The CTA is hopeless. What can they give Tibetans? They create conflicts and cause disharmony and disunity in the Tibetan community. They never attempt to resolve conflicts. After 60 years, Tibetans are still refugees with no future. The CTA and Lobsang Sangay cannot give the Tibetans a more concrete plan on how to free Tibet and what they will do to give Tibetans an identity. If China is happy to accept Tibetans to go back, this will be a better option for Tibetans. Going back to China, Tibetans will not be stateless anymore, they will have the same opportunity as other Chinese citizens, they will be able to own business, property, etc.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: daka on November 23, 2019, 05:49:50 AM
If China is officially saying this, I think those Tibetans who want to go back should immediately grasp the opportunity, just pack and go, don't wait for the CTA anymore. CTA will definitely discourage their people to go back. WIthout the people, there will be no CTA. And what do they want from being a CTA member? Needless to say, it's money and power. This will not be given to them if they go back to Tibet. Therefore, I believe they will do whatever they can to prevent this from happening. 
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Tracy on December 01, 2019, 08:18:38 AM
If China is officially saying this, I think those Tibetans who want to go back should immediately grasp the opportunity, just pack and go, don't wait for the CTA anymore. CTA will definitely discourage their people to go back. WIthout the people, there will be no CTA. And what do they want from being a CTA member? Needless to say, it's money and power. This will not be given to them if they go back to Tibet. Therefore, I believe they will do whatever they can to prevent this from happening.
The CTA will do all they can to stop the Tibetans from going back to China. They want the Tibetans to continue to live in India as refugees so that the CTA can use the refugee status to ask for financial support from people. Without refugees, the CTA will not have a solid case to get financial aids. When Indian government offered to give citizenships to the Tibetans, the CTA made it so difficult for the Tibetans to get the documents needed to apply for the citizenship. After 60 years of struggling, it is unfair for the CTA to hold the Tibetans back for their own interest. The CTA cannot be trusted, Tibetans have to understand that.
Title: Re: China call Tibetans to Return Home
Post by: Ngawang on December 03, 2019, 06:52:28 AM
Tibetans should just go back to Tibet and not waste time supporting the Tibetan government. It is obvious that the CTA will not be able to fulfil their promise which is to bring Tibetans back to an independent Tibet. Now China became one of the most powerful countries in the world. China will not give them back their country after all the investment that they have done in Tibet.